How the new coaches are doing around the nation...

*(Preface - I wasn't a fan of our hire, and I still am not a fan. I just want everyone to see the picture.)

Team	Returning Starters	New Coach	'12 W/L	'13 W/L	'12 PPG	'13 PPG	'13 Def PPG	'12 Def PPG
La Tech	6	Skip Holtz	9-3	4-6	51.5	19.9	27.4	38.5
FIU	8	Ron Turner	3-9	1-9	25.0	9.8	37.9	31.7
Cal	9	Sonny Dykes	3-9	1-10	20.5	22.6	45.8	33.3
Western Michigan	10	PJ Fleck	4-8	1-10	27.3	16.9	36.5	30.5
South Florida	10	Willie Taggart	3-9	2-7	19.4	14.0	27.5	28.7
UTEP	11	Sean Kugler	3-9	2-8	21.2	24.1	37.9	29.8
NC State	11	Dave Dereoun	7-6	3-7	26.1	22.4	28.7	26.6
Nevada	11	Brian Polian	7-6	4-7	37.2	26.4	37.8	33.8
Kent State	11	Paul Haynes	11-3	3-8	32.5	18.8	30.0	24.8
Idaho	11	Paul Petrino	1-11	1-9	15.4	16.7	44.2	44.5
Arkansas	11	Brett Beliema	4-8	3-7	28.8	19.2	32.6	31.0

I think we're the only team in this category that even has a shot at being .500 for the year.

Oh snap. Does this mean if we replaced Skip we might do worse? (see USF)

...and here is the rest of the coach changes from last year...

Out of the 30 - only 13 have a chance to finish .500 or better...

Team	Coach	'12 Record	'13 Record
Arkansas	Brett Bielema	4-8	3-7
Arkansas State	Brian Harsin	10-3	6-4
Auburn	Gus Malzhan	3-9	10-1
Boston College	Steve Addazio	2-10	6-4
Cal	Sonny Dykes	3-9	1-10
Cincinnati	Tommy Tubberville	10-3	8-2
Colorado	Mike Macintyre	1-11	4-6
FIU	Ron Turner	3-9	1-9
Idaho	Paul Petrino	1-11	1-9
Kent State	Paul Haynes	11-3	3-8
Kentucky	Mark Stoops	2-10	2-8
La Tech	Skip Holtz	9-3	4-6
NC State	Dave Doeren	7-6	3-7
Nevada	Brian Polian	7-6	3-7
New Mexico State	Doug Martin	1-11	1-9
Northern Illinois	Rod Carey	12-2	10-0
Oregon	Mark Helfrich	12-1	9-1
Purdue	Daryl Hazell	6-7	1-9
San Jose State	Ron Caragher	11-2	5-5
Southern Miss	Todd Monken	0-12	0-10
Syracuse	Scott Shafer	8-5	5-5
Temple	Matt Rhule	4-7	1-9
Tennessee	Butch Jones	5-7	4-6
Texas Tech	Kliff Kingsbury	8-5	7-4
USF	Willie Taggart	3-9	2-7
Utah State	Matt Wells	11-2	6-4
UTEP	Shaun Kugler	3-9	2-8
Western Kentucky	Bobby Petrino	7-6	6-4
Western Michigan	PJ Fleck	4-8	1-10
Wisconsin	Gary Andersen	8-6	8-2

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Originally Posted by T1

Oh snap. Does this mean if we replaced Skip we might do worse? (see USF)

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I do think we all should pay careful attention to USF because we may hope to progress but may regress...

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Originally Posted by rockdog

I do think we all should pay careful attention to USF because we may hope to progress but may regress...

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Southern Miss too. Sometimes, it's not the coach.

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Originally Posted by T1

Southern Miss too. Sometimes, it's not the coach.

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True...but...let's not forget who was at USF...and who recruited USF for 3 years...and who put USF in the position where they needed to replace the coach...

I think it's clear that hiring a new coach definitely takes time. It looks like 40% of the teams that replaced their coach have a chance to be above .500, but by the end of the year, we may see that 65% of teams that replaced their coach will finish with a losing record.

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Originally Posted by rockdog

True...but...let's not forget who was at USF...and who recruited USF for 3 years...and who put USF in the position where they needed to replace the coach...

I think it's clear that hiring a new coach definitely takes time. It looks like 40% of the teams that replaced their coach have a chance to be above .500, but by the end of the year, we may see that 65% of teams that replaced their coach will finish with a losing record.

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I agree. What's strange about our situation is that we lost a successful coach and the new coach can't match the old coach's performance (like Ellis Johnson at USM). It seems like our program should have been heading in the right direction and anyone could step in and keep the ball rolling (like Dykes did with Dooley's team). But in fact, our coach (and perhaps USM's Fedora) destroyed our program, left the program before having to deal with the rebuilding, and left that mess for the next guy to clean up. And Sonny skips town looking like a genius. Thanks man, appreciate that!

TLost, please take a break from this subject for awhile.

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Originally Posted by T1

I agree. What's strange about our situation is that we lost a successful coach and the new coach can't match the old coach's performance (like Ellis Johnson at USM). It seems like our program should have been heading in the right direction and anyone could step in and keep the ball rolling (like Dykes did with Dooley's team). But in fact, our coach (and perhaps USM's Fedora) destroyed our program, left the program before having to deal with the rebuilding, and left that mess for the next guy to clean up. And Sonny skips town looking like a genius. Thanks man, appreciate that!

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I bet you believe 9/11 was an inside job too

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Originally Posted by Tech77

TLost, please take a break from this subject for awhile.

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He can't.....

Done. Let's talk about what's on the menu this weekend.

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Originally Posted by T1

Done. Let's talk about what's on the menu this weekend.

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Hopfully a win and decent weather!! TAG will have a bunch of eats, hoping like hell DrEvil comes by with the Margaritas!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by touchdown123

I bet you believe 9/11 was an inside job too

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Who doesn't?

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Originally Posted by T1

Done. Let's talk about what's on the menu this weekend.

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Now that's about the only pleasant subject we can discuss right now when it comes to our football.

In general teams replace a coach because of bad performance. I'd expect a first year coach to be taking over a struggling team most of the time. In our case, the coach was successful and was hired away. How many of those coaches listed came into that situation?