Start Westin Elliot Now!

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11-04-2017, 06:38 PM
Bone_afide_Dawg

Start Westin Elliot Now!

The team is imploding under Holtz’s failing leadership (if you can really call it leadership). J’Mar is ruined, seriously. He’s been coached down to uselessness. I hate to say that but it’s blatantly obvious. I’ve never seen a QB look around and behind him as much as he does. His eyes are not down field. He has no confidence anymore. The only down field completions today were pure luck.

I’m not sure Elliot could do any better but I want to see him give it a try. Maybe he’d ignore Holtz and play to achieve, play to make something happen. Tech needs a leader on the field since there isn’t one on the side line (normally that would be the head coach).
11-04-2017, 06:53 PM
Fire Skip Holtz

Re: Start Westin Elliot Now!

J'Mar just needs to play and not worry if he gets chewed out by Holtz for running over a DB.
11-04-2017, 11:56 PM
hambone29

Re: Start Westin Elliot Now!

Blame Holtz if you like, but J’Mar sucks plain and simple. Time for a change.
11-04-2017, 11:57 PM
nadB

Re: Start Westin Elliot Now!

past time, WAY past time :icon_roll:
11-05-2017, 12:05 AM
Fire Skip Holtz

Re: Start Westin Elliot Now!

We don't have a 5th year senior power 5 QB transfer on our roster this year. I'm fine with trying another QB, but our problems go much deeper than who the QB is.
11-05-2017, 07:28 AM
PawDawg

Re: Start Westin Elliot Now!

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Originally Posted by hambone29

Blame Holtz if you like, but J’Mar sucks plain and simple. Time for a change.

J'Mar is starting because Holtz thinks he was and is our best option. I think I'll blame Holtz.
11-05-2017, 07:44 AM
Kodawg

Re: Start Westin Elliot Now!

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

J'Mar is starting because Holtz thinks he was and is our best option. I think I'll blame Holtz.

Who will you blame if it turns out that Holtz is Right? With the same play calls, same number of dropped passes, and the same OL, I don't think it would matter who the QB is.

Re: Start Westin Elliot Now!

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Originally Posted by Kodawg

Who will you blame if it turns out that Holtz is Right? With the same play calls, same number of dropped passes, and the same OL, I don't think it would matter who the QB is.

I think I'll blame Holtz...

Latech 3-G at Nt07 Timeout LATECH, clock 00:46.

Latech 3-G at Nt07 Smith, J'Mar rush for 7 yards to the NT0, TOUCHDOWN, clock 00:39.

BARNES, J. kick attempt good.

LATECH 17, North Texas 7

Drive: 9 plays, 80 yards, TOP 02:20

BARNES, J. kickoff 65 yards to the NT0, touchback.

Nt 1-10 at Nt25 NORTH TEXAS drive start at 00:39.

Nt 1-10 at Nt25 FINE, Mason pass complete to GUYTON, Jalen for 6 yards to the NT31, out-of-bounds.

Nt 2-4 at Nt31 FINE, Mason pass complete to DARDEN, Jaelon for 25 yards to the LATECH44, 1ST DOWN NT (Lewis, Darryl).

Nt 1-10 at Latech44 Timeout North Texas, clock 00:25.

Nt 1-10 at Latech44 FINE, Mason pass incomplete to GUYTON, Jalen (Robertson, Amik).

Nt 2-10 at Latech44 FINE, Mason pass complete to LAWRENCE, M. for 6 yards to the LATECH38 (Robertson, Amik;WASHINGTON, D.).

Nt 3-4 at Latech38 Timeout North Texas, clock 00:12.

Nt 3-4 at Latech38 FINE, Mason rush for 7 yards to the LATECH31, 1ST DOWN NT (Spencer, Trey).

Nt 1-10 at Latech31 Timeout North Texas, clock 00:07.

Nt 1-10 at Latech31 MOORE, Trevor field goal attempt from 48 GOOD, clock 00:00.

11-05-2017, 08:10 AM
BruceWillisDawg

Re: Start Westin Elliot Now!

Westin better be able throw while running - o-line hasn't protect the QB consistently all year nor been able to open up running lanes fir our backs. The absence of a consistent running game & inability protect the QB has been the primary problem. JMar has struggled for sure but hard to find any rhythm while constantly improvising & no running game fir balance. My guess is Westin will follow the others that exited since it appears Holtz is locked in to Smith.
11-05-2017, 08:15 AM
PawDawg

Re: Start Westin Elliot Now!

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Originally Posted by BruceWillisDawg

Westin better be able throw while running - o-line hasn't protect the QB consistently all year nor been able to open up running lanes fir our backs. The absence of a consistent running game & inability protect the QB has been the primary problem. JMar has struggled for sure but hard to find any rhythm while constantly improvising & no running game fir balance. My guess is Westin will follow the others that exited since it appears Holtz is locked in to Smith.

J'Mar lacks time, but he can't make the reads or the throws even when he has time. He missed on several easy passes yesterday.

Lacking a consistent running game? Boston Scott has proven repeatedly to be our best option, but is still not the starter. Our HC is determined to run the stupid delayed hand off and run outside the tackles. We are negative yardage on both for the season. The "diamond package" worked for a TD yesterday. We never went back to it again.

Our HC lost the game yesterday.
11-05-2017, 08:34 AM
Fire Skip Holtz

Re: Start Westin Elliot Now!

Holtz letting someone else call the plays will help us a lot more than changing the QB.
11-05-2017, 08:44 AM
PawDawg

Re: Start Westin Elliot Now!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Skip Holtz

Holtz letting someone else call the plays will help us a lot more than changing the QB.

Who the reject he hired to be his eyes in the sky?
11-05-2017, 08:50 AM
qng001

Re: Start Westin Elliot Now!

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

J'Mar lacks time, but he can't make the reads or the throws even when he has time. He missed on several easy passes yesterday.

Lacking a consistent running game? Boston Scott has proven repeatedly to be our best option, but is still not the starter. Our HC is determined to run the stupid delayed hand off and run outside the tackles. We are negative yardage on both for the season. The "diamond package" worked for a TD yesterday. We never went back to it again.

Our HC lost the game yesterday.

I agree. Also when things were going well with the Diamond package with Scott and McKnight, he put a banged up Craft in thr mix. He should have sat him out. Holtz messed up a good thing that was working for him.
11-05-2017, 08:51 AM
DogsWin

Re: Start Westin Elliot Now!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Skip Holtz

Holtz letting someone else call the plays will help us a lot more than changing the QB.

That is not going to happen. Holtz 100% believes in conservative "just get another FG" offense and conservative "prevent" defense. Any risk-taking coaches will not last long on his staff. It has to be demoralizing to assistant coaches and players.

Re: Start Westin Elliot Now!

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Originally Posted by qng001

I agree. Also when things were going well with the Diamond package with Scott and McKnight, he put a banged up Craft in thr mix. He should have sat him out. Holtz messed up a good thing that was working for him.

He ran the diamond package for the first TD in the first half. Craft went back in in the second half in some other type package that didn't work. In the first half we scored with Tucker, McKnight, and Scott.

Latech 1-10 at Latech48 Start of 2nd quarter, clock 15:00.

Latech 1-10 at Latech48 MCKNIGHT, K. rush for 8 yards to the NT44 (JENKINS, Eric).

Latech 2-2 at Nt44 Tucker, Israel rush for 4 yards to the NT40, 1ST DOWN LATECH (EJIYA, E.J.).

Latech 1-10 at Nt40 MCKNIGHT, K. rush for 6 yards to the NT34 (JENKINS, Eric).

Latech 2-4 at Nt34 Smith, J'Mar pass incomplete to BONNETTE, R..

Latech 3-4 at Nt34 MCKNIGHT, K. rush for 2 yards to the NT32 (HAMILTON, L.).

Latech 4-2 at Nt32 Smith, J'Mar pass complete to BONNETTE, R. for 28 yards to the NT4, 1ST DOWN LATECH.

Latech 1-G at Nt04 Scott, Boston rush for 4 yards to the NT0, TOUCHDOWN, clock 12:17.

Latech 1-G at Nt03 PENALTY LATECH false start (CARPENTER, S.) 5 yards to the NT8.

BARNES, J. kick attempt good.

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Latech	3-G	at Nt07	Timeout LATECH, clock 00:46.
Latech	3-G	at Nt07	Smith, J'Mar rush for 7 yards to the NT0, TOUCHDOWN, clock 00:39.
			BARNES, J. kick attempt good.
			LATECH 17, North Texas 7
			Drive: 9 plays, 80 yards, TOP 02:20
			BARNES, J. kickoff 65 yards to the NT0, touchback.
Nt	1-10	at Nt25	NORTH TEXAS drive start at 00:39.
Nt	1-10	at Nt25	FINE, Mason pass complete to GUYTON, Jalen for 6 yards to the NT31, out-of-bounds.
Nt	2-4	at Nt31	FINE, Mason pass complete to DARDEN, Jaelon for 25 yards to the LATECH44, 1ST DOWN NT (Lewis, Darryl).
Nt	1-10	at Latech44	Timeout North Texas, clock 00:25.
Nt	1-10	at Latech44	FINE, Mason pass incomplete to GUYTON, Jalen (Robertson, Amik).
Nt	2-10	at Latech44	FINE, Mason pass complete to LAWRENCE, M. for 6 yards to the LATECH38 (Robertson, Amik;WASHINGTON, D.).
Nt	3-4	at Latech38	Timeout North Texas, clock 00:12.
Nt	3-4	at Latech38	FINE, Mason rush for 7 yards to the LATECH31, 1ST DOWN NT (Spencer, Trey).
Nt	1-10	at Latech31	Timeout North Texas, clock 00:07.
Nt	1-10	at Latech31	MOORE, Trevor field goal attempt from 48 GOOD, clock 00:00.

Latech	1-10	at Latech48	Start of 2nd quarter, clock 15:00.
Latech	1-10	at Latech48	MCKNIGHT, K. rush for 8 yards to the NT44 (JENKINS, Eric).
Latech	2-2	at Nt44	Tucker, Israel rush for 4 yards to the NT40, 1ST DOWN LATECH (EJIYA, E.J.).
Latech	1-10	at Nt40	MCKNIGHT, K. rush for 6 yards to the NT34 (JENKINS, Eric).
Latech	2-4	at Nt34	Smith, J'Mar pass incomplete to BONNETTE, R..
Latech	3-4	at Nt34	MCKNIGHT, K. rush for 2 yards to the NT32 (HAMILTON, L.).
Latech	4-2	at Nt32	Smith, J'Mar pass complete to BONNETTE, R. for 28 yards to the NT4, 1ST DOWN LATECH.
Latech	1-G	at Nt04	Scott, Boston rush for 4 yards to the NT0, TOUCHDOWN, clock 12:17.
Latech	1-G	at Nt03	PENALTY LATECH false start (CARPENTER, S.) 5 yards to the NT8.
			BARNES, J. kick attempt good.