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CNN Poll Shows Trump Crushing Biden in Battleground States
A CNN poll of 15 crucial battleground states shows President Trump crushing Joe Biden by seven full points, 52 to 45 percent.
The poll covered the expected swing states of Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Wisconsin.
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Free trade with a level playing field: YesQuote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Fiscal conservative: Hmmm.....perhaps not in the oft-used definition, or the traditional definition, but Trump is more a fiscal conservative than scoring him a Nope. Before the $3 trillion pandemic spending package the debt had climbed, over the past three years close to $3 trillion (IDK the exact number). That is true and that is concerning. But, before I bash him for it, I will throw out a few things...
1) Trump has had to completely rebuild our military. obummer left a mere shell of a defense department. Over half our jets could not fly lacking spare parts. For the first time since 1935 the US did NOT have a single carrier (carrier group) on patrol. Again, due to lack of maintenance and spare parts. We were still involved in wars in the Middle East, on obummer's watch, and yet he caused our military to deteriorate to a state of decay. Trump has had to spend many $billions to rebuild it. Now, one can argue that not all of that spending was necessary...like building 9 brand new super carriers, the USS Ford-class...but at least we know where the money went, and is going. Under obummer PLEASE show me something positive the Federal guvmint did (built) that could account for an additional $12 trillion in debt in 8 years. Infrastructure? Nope! remember the "shovel ready" fiasco? Hell, Trump is building a wall!
2) Trump also had to rebuild the nation's economy. He inherited an anemic economy and the tax cuts, to stimulate the economy while working, takes time to refill the treasury. It was doing just that...up to a couple of months ago. Tax cuts initially cause a drop to money flowing to the treasury. Of course it does since those cuts are implemented immediately, and over the course of a year, and it takes time for economic growth to create new tax payers.
3) Now...I agree Trump is often too quick to agree to the Dems' HUGE spending programs, just so he can get something. We've seen that happen several times...including the biggest pandemic relief package. I am VERY pleased to see Trump saying Pelosi's latest Christmas spending binge is DOA! I would think, johnny, you would be glad to see that too...being the libertarian fiscal conservative you claim to be.
Okay...
as I have posted before, we MUST reverse the accumulating debt. We don't have to retire it anytime soon (and that is virtually impossible) we just need to start knocking chinks out of it. To do that means eliminating the annual deficit and even running a surplus for, for....well, from now on! To do that will require a combination of increased revenues and spending cuts.
Increased revenues....yes, that mostly takes the form of taxes and fees. Let's have a super non-essential worker tax premium on Hollywood, pro-athletes, media darlings, and down to other non-essential workers but based on income. A "progressive" income tax. It should have a sunset clause too. Now, that might be 5 years or more, but it has to end and then force Congress and the POTUS to reinstate if they wish.
Spending cuts...bring on the MAD SLASHER!!! Cut! Cut! Cut! And not just reduction in the planned increase, but real cuts. We can argue where to start, but EVERYTHING needs to be on the table. No sacred cows.
And finally, I know this...we stand a MUCH better chance of something like this happening with Trump in the WH vs. Quid Pro Quo Joe. Any vote for a 3rd party, instead of Trump, is a vote for more fiscal irresponsibility.
And waiting for the tens of thousands of votes to mysteriously show up in favor of Dem Christy Smith in her race with Repub Mike Garcia. This is Katie Hill's open seat after she resigned caught naked with her aids in some kind of group thingy...well, pics anyway. Hill stole the seat in 2018, one of the 8 Congressional seats stolen by the Dems in voter fraud.
:laugh: Well stated. You nailed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
Johnny's the sad one though. At least we all know Guissy is kooky, and believes the nonsense he spews. Johnny Lightweight is just longing for attention. He's just a sad ole never-trumper who hasn't been on the winning side of a single political battle in at least the last 4 years, maybe much longer. No wonder he's bitter! :laugh:
LOL! That'll show 'em. What a loser!.....:laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
The really sad part is, 45% say they will vote for Biden anyway. Never mind Biden's got dementia, can't remember his own name, slurs his speech, gropes women, has a woman right now claiming that he raped her, and he has a long history of well-documented corruption. That's just pitiful.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
These Trump imitations by the big mouth boomer brigade (how’d I do?) are worth the price of admission!
Without a hint of irony!Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Yes, its is MORE THAN IRONIC, that people like you can't see that your lies keep coming back to haunt YOU! You goofballs haven't figured out yet that every time you try to lie about Trump, it comes back on you and your side. Hence the reference above to Gal 6:7. I mean, your side has lost every single battle.Quote:
Gal 6:7
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
- First you lost the 2016 election, after lying about Trump for months.
- Then Michal Avannati teamed up with Stormy Daniels, lied about Trump, stole Stormy's money, and ended up in prison himself. (You can't make this up! LOL!)
- Then, you lost the Robert Mueller-Russian Collusion case after lying about having evidence for years.
- One result was, Trump haters James Comey, Peter Strzok, Andrew McCabe, Lisa Page, Andrew Weissman, Rod Rosenstein, Bruce Ohr, Nellie Ohr, Peter Kadzik and more lost their jobs.
- Then you lost the Bret Kavanaugh Supreme Court nominee case.
- Not only did you lose the Kavanaugh case on national TV, Kavanaugh was appointed to the Supreme Court, and Gropey Joe Biden now has his own rape & sexual assault accuser in Tara Reade.
- Then you lost the Congressional Impeachment inquiry.
- Trump's approval ratings are higher than ever.
- Then your side lost the Michael Flynn case, after setting him up and entrapping him, and getting caught at it. Now Michael Flynn walks free.
- And current polls show Trump donkey-stomping Biden in 15 battle ground states.
You people aren't just crooked, you're not very smart either. And you also don't know when to quit. :laugh: Ever heard of Karma?
Now it's time for some Dems to go to prison for their role in the Russian Hoax. I can't wait. :icon_razz:
Another great post HD!
Last night Biden was live...always a fun watch!...and while commenting on the pandemic stumbles with...
"this pandemic...er, this pandemic...hmmm...we've lost 85,000 jobs, this pandemic, it has infected billions, cost millions of jobs...this pandemic..."
What is that reference to 85,000 jobs? Later in the same rambling he mentions millions of jobs, but what are those 85,000 jobs? Is that a reference to specific business? company? industry? Maybe it's his personal staff or something!
Biden has also changed his story THREE times on his knowledge of and participation in the Flynn scandal.
Finally....they lost the 302 form? Really? They "lost" the 302? Yeah, right. Maybe Goosey has it and is making copies on his copier...
More irony! Galatians quoted...which is more or less a diatribe against tribalism, then you immediately follow up with Karma? So good! Next time, quote Two Corinthians for me!Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
I don't have a side anymore. I've never been a registered democrat and don't plan to be. In fact, I've never voted for a democrat in a national election...and I don't plan to.
But, as usual, you lump all anti-Trumpers into the same bucket. Usually I'm attacking Trump from the right. You see, all that stuff I said before he was elected (for the 13 years I was active here), I believed it. It gets you green dots when you call Obama out on his big government initiatives and over-spending. You get to double up your green dots when you call out any character deficiencies for Obama. Say the same about Trump and you get a lot of backlash.
But hey, it didn't take me long to get the lay of the land after Trump got elected. I'm a big boy and I can handled the pushback.
Just ask yourself a question Michael, would you ever hire Trump to work for you? A guy who has been accused of sexual assault some 25 times...has cut big checks to porn stars...tweets like a 7th grader after a few Red Bulls?
I think we both know the answer, yet you want that guy in charge of the country?
"I wouldn't vote for me." - Joe Biden
This would be a good campaign slogan for him. Clear, concise, logical. It might show some folks his dementia hasn't progressed as far as many have feared.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Of course I would (hire him). Are you nuts? (Of course, you are. What was I thinking?)Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
I knew who Donald Trump was BEFORE the election of 2016. See.....that's the difference. Voters already KNEW Trump was a billionaire playboy, who owned casinos, dabbled in pro sports teams, had been married 3 times, became a reality TV star and liked to hob-knob with professional athletes and the rich and famous. if you didn't already know that, you were living in a cocoon. We KNEW what we were signing up for, and frankly Trump has been a model citizen as POTUS.
I love the fact that Trump is the real deal. Unlike most politicians, he's not claiming to be the purest soul on the planet, and doesn't make any bones about the fact that he's a realist. He doesn't even drink, but again, he doesn't claim to be a boy scout either. And that kind of personality is exactly what Americans need when negotiating with the Chinese, or whomever. What you see is what you get.
Tump turned out to be a much better man for the job of POTUS than anything the Republican party was going to put up. No, Trump is probably not the best choice when it comes to picking a pastor for your local church. But I absolutely do not care one wit about that. I'm not electing a pastor, I'm looking for a president who can best represent my values and the country's interests. And that's Donald Trump without question. He's a fighter for sure, and he doesn't give up, unlike some previous Republican presidents (Crooked George H. W. Bush & George W "don't expect me to fight back") and nominees for president (Mitt ""stab you in the back" Romney).
I've supported 'em all in the past, and I've had enough of these turncoats.
From strong borders, to personal income tax cuts, to conservative Supreme Court nominee choices, to building a strong and independent economy with the lowest jobless rate in American history, and more.....Trump far better represents my interests, much moreso than any president in U.S. history.
Like most "never-Trumpers", you're too caught up in the petty stuff. You can't argue with real facts, because you claim to have conservative values. Instead, you simply dislike Trumps personality, his tweets, the arguments he gets into, and some of the other silly stuff that really shouldn't bother you --if you were a real grown-up (oh well) . You've even admitted as much by talking about this kind of petty stuff earlier in this thread.
There's nothing wrong with not being a "big picture" guy. Not everyone is. And you're not. But your hatred for the petty stuff is blocking your vision to see, both literally and figuratively.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/trump-adm...complishments/
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Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow
LOL! Great one. :laugh:
Good job HD! You are on a run of great posts.
I see your taking my seminar "How to be a great poster." is paying off!! :shocked2:
Questions about character, honesty, integrity, loyalty, and intelligence are petty. Got it!Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
:laugh:
Record deficits and size of government (pre-COVID...what we’ve got now is beyond FDR’s wildest dreams) are exactly what the republicans needed!
Your big picture involves orange colored glasses!
See....you're doing it again, with the "Orange Colored" glasses comment. You can't help yourself. You're just petty. It's the personal things about Trump that you don't like. You don't like his hair color, his tweets, etc..etc... Blah, Blah, Blah. You want a Pastor, not a POTUS. :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
I don't know how you could question the man's honesty, integrity, loyalty, and intelligence. He's outsmarted every person in Washington --Democrats, Republicans and Never-Trumpers alike. He's kept EVERY promise he ever made during the election cycle. And his supporters adore him because of it. I have a strong feeling THAT his supporters piss you off too. Because you're just that petty. ;)
As for your "record deficits" comment, it's absurd to slap Trump with that. I guess you forget that he inherited a $20T deficit. Furthermore, pre-coronavirus, Tump was GROWING our economy and our personal incomes at a record pace. In turn, the enormous economic growth, combined with better trade & tariff deals with China, Mexico, Canada, and others was expected to make the deficit a smaller percentage of GDP a few years into the future. But since the COVID disaster, all bets are off.
:laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/?ruling=true
I might give Trump some credit if he was doing something...anything to shrink the deficit and size of government.
Trump supporters don't piss me off and I don't hate Trump. Trump is now who he's always been. He's a "fake it till you make it" guy who's BSed his way through life...which would be impressive had he not started out with all of daddy's big bucks in his pockets. But, I don't fault him for it. He's doing long term damage to true conservatism with his populist garbage, but some of you guys eat it up like it's candy. Lucky for you, it's my generation (and my great grandkids) that will end up picking up the tab.
Meanwhile Trump has fired yet another Inspector General (this one from the State Department), you know the guys that are supposed to make sure his agencies follow the law...
Well, technically, Barr fired that ass-clown. He was an obummer appointee, which means he was a plant to disrupt the administratiom...i.e. engage in anti-American scheming. TRUMP SHOULD HAVE FIRED EVERY obummer APPOINTEE ON DAY ONE!!! But, finish the job now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
And I find it hilarious that YOU, of the Comey, Mueller, Krooked Killary et al clan is "concerned" about agencies following the law. That is too funny.
Your negative credibility has dropped some more...
Noticed Goosey didn't say anything about the special Congressional election in California this past week, where a virtual unknown Republican defeated a democratic candidate and flipped a seat held by democrats fo 20 years by double digit percentage points. Even the New York Times had to admit that this could be the signs of a very bad November for the democrats.
That seat has been a Republican seat since the redistricting in 1993. It has only been held by a Democrat for less than 1 year during that time. I wouldn’t read too much into it.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Btw, they get a rematch in November, so this was kind of a pointless special election done in the middle of a pandemic with only virtual campaigning.
And the Dems tried to cheat at the end when the strictly mail-in balloting wasn't working for 'em. Garcia(R) led by 11,000 votes the day before the scheduled end of the election period. The Dems rushed to open a regular polling place in the heaviest Dem district and yet Garcia ended up winning by 12,000 votes, or something like that. Now, I am not sure why/how anyone knew what the vote counts were prior to the end of the election. It would make sense, generally, when an election spans weeks that election officials start counting votes as they come in, such that the night of the "polls" closing or by the next day results can be announced. But, I thought the actual totals were supposed to be kept secret until after the polls closed.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Regardless, this was for an open seat vacated by Dem Katie Hill who resigned after nude pics of her and her staff appeared...wherever they appeared, the Net I guess. Hill was one the beneficiaries of the great seat heist of 2018 when Repubs "won" something like 10 Congressional seats...as of election night, only to lose all 10 after ballots were found in the trunks of cars of Dem election officials. What was really amazing was how in each case just enough ballots were found to flip the previous day's results. Wow! some luck, eh! :rolleyes:
I guess this was just to fill out the rest of Hill's term, which expired this November anyway. I suppose Garcia has to run again in 6 months. Or, was this for the next full 2-year term? IDK. Still, it's a nice pick-up for the good guys. I hope this is a preview of coming attractions. It would be awesome for the GOP to have the WH and both houses! And...for there to be leaders in Congress who will work with President Trump. NO! I don't mean be rubber-stampers. But do what is right for America and Americans!
And we can watch Goosey's head explode....
I thought, but wasn't sure, it was a temporary thing. Still, it's like when Tech beats East Podunk A&M in hoops and some say, OMG! that's no biggie, that schools sucks. Yeah? Well...beating 'em is still better than losing to 'em.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Yeah many democrats were upset that they couldn't ballot harvest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Good post! Indeed he was an Obama plant. My only complaint about these firings is why is it taking so long? Trump should fire everybody that was an Obama appointee, and start clean. That's the only way most of these government agencies will regain any kind of integrity. Need to purge all the bad guys first. And he should start with Chris Wray at the FBI.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
By the way, that link is pathetic. Here's just one example: They call it a "broken promise" that Trump couldn't repeal Obamacare. LOL! John McCain (a complete total Piece of shit) was literally the Never-Tumper who prevented the repeal of Obamacare with literally the last vote in the U.S. Senate. That was not on Trump. That was on McCain. McCain was the one who had the final vote with a thumbs up, or thumbs down vote, and he emphatically --and in very dramatic fashion-- gave it a thumbs down. That's not Trumps fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Also, now we know for a fact that John McCain was working with the Democrats and the Never-Trumpers against Trump and his new administration on the Russian Collusion investigation. We already knew it, but the intel reports released to the public over the last couple of weeks confirmed that McCain was one of the primary handlers of the very fake Steele Dossier that was taken to the FISA court, and used to justify the 2-yr Russia collusion investigation. This, despite knowing the dossier was full of lies, and knowing that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) --Trumps primary electoral opponent-- had actually PAID for it. LOL!
In short, John McCain was a traitor to his country, and played a serious role in the coup attempt to overthrow the newly elected Trump administration.. And McCain's name now lives in infamy for conservatives, because he is also the single biggest reason Obamacare was never overturned.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...mccain-1231430
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-...-russia-2018-5
You're the one who said he'd kept every campaign promise he'd made. I guess you meant except for the ones he didn't. That's the deal with the Trump fanboys. Everything you like is 100% Trump. Everything you don't like is 100% somebody else. He plays the victim more than any President in my lifetime.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
So, tell me what Trump did wrong with regards to that promise? Fact is, Trump gave it everything, and his constituents know it. But Trump was undermined by an old, bitter, traitor, with a black heart, in John McCain. Clearly he underestimated the depth of the deception in the swamp.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
It's also not over yet. When Republicans gain control of the House, Senate and POTUS this Nov, it will be game over. You never Trumper's will be remembered like the old Black Sox of 1919. LOL!
He did what Trump always does...promised something he couldn't personally deliver. Did you really expect McCain to toe the line after the way Trump treated him? He runs his mouth constantly and does nothing to "broaden his appeal" beyond his base and then acts like everybody is out to get him when he needs the support of those he just defecated on.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
Just like John McCain, you still haven't learned who's in charge. McCain was a dead man walking (politically) after that, and I'm not referring to his Cancer. All McCain did was permanently stain his own legacy. No matter, Trump still managed to de-fang Obamacare by getting the mandate removed, which really made the whole plan impotent. Trump won anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Thank God that's not how this country works. And nobody who liked John McCain disliked him after his no vote. All the Trumpsters already hated him. McCain voted no because of another Trump broken promise...he had no replacement for Obamacare.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
But, predictably, you spin all Trump's failures off on somebody else. Maybe in Russia Trump would be a great leader because he wouldn't actually have to lead. He could just dictate. That's not the way it works here. He has to LEAD. And that is something he's never shown an ability to do. He doesn't even really lead his followers...he just says whatever catch phrase Bannon or Hannity tells him will tickle the ears of his incredibly uncritical supporters.
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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
I disagree that Trump has broken promise after promise. IMO, Trump has KEPT more campaign promises than any other President in my lifetime, possibly including Reagan (not 100% sure about that one as I was a teenager and not following politics at the time, just girls.
This is a good article and explains a lot of what happens in DC. Don't really follow this website, but a lot of what they say is true. . It's a long read, but very informative
https://theconservativetreehouse.com...is-running-out
Earlier today President Trump was again ‘subtle as a brick through a window’ in a tweet requesting the senate get serious in exposing Obamagate and the soft coup effort:
Unfortunately, due to the dynamics of the UniParty, Mitch McConnell is very unlikely to take any action to expose prior misconduct; it would be against McConnell’s interests.
The Senate was not a passive entity in the various hoaxes against President Trump. Factually, the Senate Intelligence Committee, and individual senators themselves, were active participants. As a result just like AG Barr knows any discussion of SSCI security director James Wolfe’s non prosecution would expose DOJ corruption, so too does Mitch McConnell know senate investigations would expose senate corruption in both parties.
Republican members like John McCain actively participated; and republican members like Richard Burr willfully allowed the framework to continue. Don’t forget it was Republican Senator Marco Rubio who first came to the defense of Democrat SSCI Vice-Chair Mark Warner when the covert communication with Chris Steele became evident.
In the big picture, the big ugly picture, republicans are just as complicit as democrats within all of the efforts to remove President Trump. To this day the GOP controlled Senate Intelligence Committee is still spitting out reports defending the previous administration and proclaiming the vast Russian election conspiracy is genuine and real (it isn’t)
How did the House write a $3 trillion legislative spending package when the legislators were not even in Washington DC? Short version: they didn’t, the lobbyists did.
President Trump’s administration is adverse to the interests of the entire DC political system. It’s a big club, and he’s confronting it. Mitch McConnell has no incentive to help President Trump.
Remember…. Congress does not write laws or legislation, special interest groups do. Lobbyists are paid, some very well paid, to get politicians to go along with the need of the legislative group.
When you are voting for a Congressional Rep or a U.S. Senator you are not voting for a person who will write laws. Your rep only votes on legislation to approve or disapprove of constructs that are written by outside groups and sold to them through lobbyists who work for those outside groups.
While all of this is happening the same outside groups who write the laws are providing money for the campaigns of the politicians they need to pass them. This construct sets up the quid-pro-quo of influence, although much of it is fraught with plausible deniability.
If Hillary Clinton had won the election, her Oval Office desk would be filled with legislation passed by congress which she would have been signing. Heck, she’d have writer’s cramp from all of the special interest legislation, driven by special interest groups that supported her campaign, that would be flowing to her desk.
Why?
Simply because the authors of the legislation, the originating special interest and lobbying groups, were spending millions to fund her campaign. Hillary Clinton would be signing K-Street constructed special interest legislation to repay all of those donors/investors.
Congress would be fast-tracking the passage because the same interest groups also fund the members of congress.
President Donald Trump winning the election threw a monkey wrench into the entire DC system…. In early 2017 the modern legislative machine was frozen in place.
The “America First” policies represented by candidate Donald Trump were not within the legislative constructs coming from the K-Street authors of the legislation. There were no MAGA lobbyists waiting on Trump ideology to advance legislation based on America First objectives.
As a result of an empty feeder system, in early 2017 congress had no bills to advance because all of the myriad of bills and briefs written were not in line with President Trump policy. There was simply no entity within DC writing legislation that was in-line with President Trump’s America-First’ economic and foreign policy agenda.
Exactly the opposite was true. All of the DC legislative briefs and constructs were/are antithetical to Trump policy. There were hundreds of file boxes filled with thousands of legislative constructs that became worthless when Donald Trump won the election.
Those legislative constructs (briefs) representing tens of millions of dollars worth of time and influence were just sitting there piled up in boxes under desks and in closets amid K-Street and the congressional offices. Legislation needed to be in-line with an entire new political perspective, and there was no-one, no special interest or lobbying group, currently occupying DC office space with any interest in synergy with Trump policy.
Think about the larger ramifications within that truism. That is also why there was/is so much opposition.
But....hadn't McCain already voted a few times to repeal Obamacare before Trump became President (and when there was also no replacement)?Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Please do not try to portray him as a great and moral man who tried to do what was right. He was a petty and vindictive man, with a penchant for drama wherever it put him in the spotlight. I was no fan of Obama, but thank God every night we didn't have to go through a McCain Presidency.
Voted no because of Trump...indeed.
Friscodawg, you never learn. These House stimulus packages are never written to actually be passed. Look to the Senate.
THISQuote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
is the swamp!
Look at how these noble "public servants" get rich beyond their wildest dreams on salaries that should have them squarely in the middle class. Look at how RICH Elijah Cummings became after being appointed the head of a committee that allowed him to shake down corporations for contributions to his nonprofit enterprise, which got surprisingly mixed up with his "for profit" cash. We need a viable third party to shake things up....until they become part of the swamp, too.
That description reminds me of someone....hmmmmQuote:
Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow
How rich did he become? Looks like his net worth at death was 1.3 million. Seems pretty modest for someone that worked nearly 60 years with almost 20 of those as an attorney.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow
Good one.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Hmmmmm.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Your whataboutism is noted.
But to be fair (which is more than someone eaten up with TDS deserves), Trump does love drama and the spotlight, and he is vindictive (most successful CEOs are), and has NEVER portrayed himself to be a great moralist.
To also be fair, he doesn't change his positions to earn the fake love and admiration of his enemies like McCain did. The stuff Trump is saying today is the same stuff he has been saying for 30 years.
Yeah, you would appreciate it. It was like a Pee Wee Herman "I know you are, but what am I" thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
No matter what, we can always depend on you to be an apologist for Dems and The Swamp.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I don't buy the $1.3 million net worth for Cummings. That might be the legal portion of his estate...
https://www.17thshard.com/forum/appl...92548b4b3b8acaQuote:
Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow
Why do you guys think he was so rich?Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
20 years an attorney, what 40+ years in politics, especially in Congress and as crooked and as scumbaggy as they come...and he didn't accumulate $10's of millions from lobbiests, etc..??? Well...he wasn't the sharpest crayon in the box. Wasn't it Cummings who said an island would tip over if you put too much stuff on one side of it? I think so. So, maybe, he stumbled and bumbled his way thru life and was never intelligent enough to accumulate wealth. Given how stupid he was, that is a very real possibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I also acknowledge that, again given how stupid he was, the $1.3 million NET worth figure could be accurate. I know a lot of so-called "successful" people who have a lot of stuff but who are in debt up to their ears. One in particular I am thinking of is an attorney, owns several businesses, his wife is a supervisory nurse, so is probably making six-figures, and on the surface, because of all their "stuff" one would think, wow! these folks are loaded. Knowing them both like I do, I suspect their net worth is barely in the black. And that might be generous.
So, yeah, maybe Cummings was barely in the black too, at $1.3 million net worth, because of foolish spending, houses (mansions), boats, airplanes, cars (lots of cars), paying off hookers (lots of hookers). That is certainly possible.
Dems Paid Pennsylvania Election Officials to Stuff Ballot excerpt:quote:
“DeMuro fraudulently stuffed the ballot box by literally standing in a voting booth and voting over and over, as fast as he could, while he thought the coast was clear,” U.S. Attorney William McSwain said in a statement. “This is utterly reprehensible conduct. The charges announced today do not erase what he did, but they do ensure that he is held to account for those actions.”
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quote:But we've been told that this never happens.. No way that mail in voting could be rigged in any way... ballot harvesting.. no way... :icon_roll:
DOJ: Democrats Paid Pennsylvania Election Officials to Stuff Ballot Box
by John Binder, 21 May 2020
A former Judge of Elections in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, has been charged and pleaded guilty to illegally adding votes for Democrat candidates in judicial races in 2014, 2015, and 2016.
On Thursday, the Department of Justice (DOJ) announced charges against former Judge of Elections Domenick DeMuro, 73, for stuffing the ballot box for Democrats in exchange for payment by a paid political consultant.
The charges, and guilty plea, include conspiracy to deprive Philadelphia voters of their civil rights by fraudulently stuffing the ballot boxes for specific Democrat candidates in the 2014, 2015, and 2016 primary elections and a violation of the Travel Act.
“The Trump administration’s prosecution of election fraud stands in stark contrast to the total failure of the Obama Justice Department to enforce these laws,” Public Interest Legal Foundation President Christian Adams said in a statement. “Right now, other federal prosecutors are aware of cases of double voting in federal elections as well as noncitizen voting. Attorney General William Barr should prompt those other offices to do their duty and prosecute known election crimes.”
Pennsylvania, Illinois, Ohio, Tennessee, Texas, California, Florida have all had documented cases of Dems committing voter fraud.
The funniest one, to me, occurred in the 2008 POTUS election, is the case in Illinois when 5 or 6 people were charged and sentenced to jail time, and paid some fines....well, although other than one night in jail, I don't think they served any time, and George Soros foot the bill for their fines too. But they were so stupidly clumsy it is comical! First, they all agreed to be videoed doing it because one person in the group, also a Dem, knew it was wrong and wanted to document the crime. She convinced the others that the video would serve as protection...should they get caught. They believed that! Next, and I don't remember the exact numbers now, but it was something like there were 14,000 registered voters TOTAL in the precinct and the election results showed obummer 16,500 votes, McCain 400 votes, and a few other candidates with some votes too. Those were all probably accurate. Duh! obummer got more votes than there were voters! Stupid thing was everyone knew obummer was gonna carry Illinois and garner all the Electoral College votes, so cheating was not necessary. Couldn't help themselves, I guess.
Here is a site if you want to look at detail data but obviously it’s not significant.
https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud
Detroit Has 30,000 More Registered Voters than Citizens of Legal Voting
This week, Michigan’s Secretary of State, Jocelyn Benson, announced that the state would send absentee ballot applications — not actual absentee ballots — to 7.7 million voters. In response, President Trump threatened to withhold funding from the state.
In an exclusive interview with SiriusXM Patriot’s Breitbart News Tonight, Eggers said ineligible voters could end up receiving mail-in ballots because Detroit’s voter rolls have at least 30,000 more registered voters on them than citizens who are eligible to vote.
Yeah.. nothing to see here..
Of course the left says denying those not legally eligible to vote, the vote, is "voter suppression."
Ukraine has released the tapes of Biden's call to their president. In it Biden says something like this: now that the prosecutor general has been fired, congratulations on that, we are now ready to move on with that loan guarantee. Ukraine is conducting criminal investigations into the whole affair. Joe Biden should be extradited there to stand trial...Hunter too.
How is that different than what we thought happened? Didn’t Biden claim that is what he did?Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
No difference to we who have been saying Quid pro quo Joe extorted the Ukrainians. Yes, he admitted it, bragged about it. But the lamestream media is in denial, and so too is the limpy-wristed GOP too afraid to push the arrest of Biden and his two-bit son. Edwin Edwards used to brag about his crimes, saying "I'm the most honest crook you'll meet!" If you're a Dem just own up to the crimes, everyone goes, well, at least he admits it. However, for some reason, too many people have not grasped what Biden did? He committed a crime. Maybe now that Ukraine is investigating all of it...and there is more to the story than Biden's extortion deal...it'll stay in the news. Maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I'm shocked. LOL! :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
No one is saying he didn’t push the prosecutor out. What the right wing spin cycle keeps forgetting is that Shokin was one of the corrupt “diamond prosecutors” the free world wanted out of Ukraine for Ukraine to overcome its corruption problem. That is foreign policy and not a crime. One of the chief gripes of the international community was that he would not stamp out the corruption of folks like Zlochevsky (Burisma).Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ind...001.html%3famp
Shokin now claiming that he was actually going to investigate and charge Burisma is a contrived defense, where the evidence shows the exact opposite.
The point is Trump didn't make empty promises just to get elected. He followed through on every one and did his best to make them law. You know that and are just criticizing him like Dems do. Like the Kung Flu is his fault. Just nonsense from the left. Please explain why the "impeachers" were guilty of what they impeached Trump for and are reportedly planning another if he is reelected. The Democratic Party has made it painfully obvious they are not pro America.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
America will prosper like never before and the Dems will start impeachment on Jan. 21, 2021.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
The Dems that were voted in refused to follow as they planned impeachment prior to Trump taking office. Difficult to lead crybabies. Everything considered Trump has lead quite well.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Well, he promised to balance the budget and eliminate federal debt.Quote:
Originally Posted by stodgdog
He promised Mexico would pay for a border wall.
He promised to eliminate the carried interest loophole.
He promised to release his tax returns after the audit was completed.
The promises he kept no one should have wanted anyway.
You proved the pointQuote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
i'm not sure i follow. it looks like he disproved it. maybe you can explain? while i disagree with his last line, it doesn't make the other points untrue.Quote:
Originally Posted by stodgdog
why does everyone abandon all critical thinking when it comes to trump (on both sides)? you can criticize a guy and recognize where he fails, and still support him in general. you can dislike someone without assuming that everything he does is evil, racist, stupid, etc.
No you can’t. That’s not allowed. You have to love everything about a person or hate everything about them. No fence riding allowed when it comes to this.Quote:
Originally Posted by arkansasbob
I know you are being facetious, to make a point. It becomes an issue when you have one side that refuses to be anything other than strictly partisan, then it pushes the other side to adopt a partisan stance as well. Why should the other side...in this case the good guys on this forum, Trump supporters...offer any room for honest discussion when the "one side" does nothing but bash, post out-right lies, half-truths, and is also guilty of lies of omission? That is why a certain poster has negative credibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
why should the "other side" add fuel to the fire by showing unthinking allegiance to someone who happens to be useful to their cause, thus making the "one side" feel justified in their unthinking opposition? is it ever right or mature to justify bad behavior by pointing at someone who is worse and saying "he started it"?Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Whoa! that certainly isn't my point. Let me try it this way....WHY should I (for instance) offer any negative comments on Trump or some of his policies when there is a suffering TDS poster who floods this forum with constant posts of negativity, lies, half-truths, etc...that side of the story is being told. I (and some others) offer balance to the discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by arkansasbob
I, on the other hand, have complimented obummer on a couple or events, and have posted how well the economy did under Slick Willy during his 8-year tenure. But then...I have integrity, honesty, and credibility. And! for the record, I HAVE criticized Trump before...on his silly tweeting and some of his unnecessary rhetoric, and on how he initially handled the announcing of us pulling out of Syria and exposing the Kurds to the attack by the Turks.
If you think the anti-Trumpers need more reinforcements, then jump in!
One of the things Trump has caved on like the bests of politicians and the worst of business people is the pre-existing clause in Obama care. Most Trump haters think that is a good thing, but you won't hear of them patting him on the back for it.
Trump can't force his goalsQuote:
Originally Posted by arkansasbob
into law. Some of the criticisms are not of campaign
goals
at least one of those things was within his power to do. his actions don't give me much confidence that he was serious about a couple of the others.Quote:
Originally Posted by stodgdog
Caved? He campaigned on keeping the pre-ex clause.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
i'm not saying you should be the one offering negative comments. just asking why you go out of your way to defend him when he's petty and vindictive, makes poor decisions, or fails to live up to his own self-built hype.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
No he didn’t. He campaigned on abolishing Obama Care. Then he realized most of the sheeple were in favor of the preX so he went with that part. He and those who favor it are wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
No he didn’t. He campaigned on abolishing Obama Care. Then he realized most of the sheeple were in favor of the preX so he went with that part. He and those who favor it are wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
He absolutely did.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ipt-annotated/
all of the so called conservatives cavedQuote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
I just posted again how I don't like some of his rhetoric...which you term as "petty and vindictive." And for the "makes poor decisions" I mentioned again the Syria escapade. But, just because YOU THINK he has other faults or there are more negatives doesn't mean I do or others do.Quote:
Originally Posted by arkansasbob
Trump has done an incredibly magnificent job for America! Given he has little to no support from Congress, including some in the GOP (i.e. McCain, Romney, and others), given his tenure has been hampered by one hoax after another...and I hope heads roll...saw where indictments are pending against Mueller and his team...it's remarkable he's been able to accomplish so much for good Americans. It appears you are not numbered among us (good Americans) and you are pissed off Trump is wrecking your globalist, commie, anti-American world. Well...too bad, bud!
Yep! this is one of the mistakes Trump is making. Or, maybe he believed in the whole stupid pre-ex provision all along. But, if it is the only flaw in a much better healthcare system, I can live with it, as long as insurance companies can charge extra for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
That said I think the best healthcare system is the free market! I have posted before what I think should happen, but I don't think we'll see anything close to it. So, I just want to minimize the damage of guvmint over-reach as much as possible.
Oh wait! I just criticized Trump for something. According to arkansaslibbob I never do that!
One of you who are internet search masters can check but I believe the insurance companies dropped the pre-existing condition issue due to public pressure before Obama care was passed.
It's like anything else...no, wait, it's not...let me rephrase this...it SHOULD be like everything else, subject to a free market. If it were then folks would be able to buy HC insurance in a competitive market. XYZ Insurance offers coverage that accommodates pre-ex, QRS Insurance, doesn't. Guess which company people will flock to when pre-ex is a concern. QRS might be perfectly happy servicing that segment of the population who are young, healthy and where pre-ex is a non-factor, and as a result, being able to offer policies at a better rate. HC insurance should be like every other insurance we buy.Quote:
Originally Posted by tech70
We also need tort reform...please note how quickly scumbag lawyers bow up at the mere mention of this. Why? Well, we all know why...
Finally, is there a role for guvmint in HC insurance? In a perfect world, the answer would be NO! But, I am willing to entertain some kind of assistance for the poorest among us. Do away with Medicaid for sure, and maybe Medicare as well, and create a pool of money that can supplement the poor buying private insurance. It would function similar to Section 8 Housing vouchers. Rent is $800...some family applies for an gets about $600 in housing assistance. If they want the $800 apartment they have to come up with the other $200. Otherwise, rent a $600 place.
Without guvmint interference in the market, prices would come down. So, eventually, so too would insurance cost.
But, attorneys and other scumbags, politicians, especially Dems, will fight this liberty-based, this true free market solution because it would deprive them of one of the biggest weapons they wield to keep the population under their control.
this is awesome! anyone who disagrees with you is a globalist commie anti-american. can't we disagree without throwing out labels that are obviously not true? what have i posted that would lead you to think that i am any of those things?Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Are you new here?Quote:
Originally Posted by arkansasbob
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvglIpgcI6M
This is two hours, but worth the time...
I am trained to look for enemies of our country. There are buzz words, phrases, and a wanton disregard for the truth that clearly reveals said enemies. Y'all can't help yourselves. Some of you are better at covering it up than others, but eventually you all slip up. I won't reveal any more since it will tip off your comrades what to avoid.Quote:
Originally Posted by arkansasbob
hate to dox you like this, but i found your photo on linkedin:Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c1/ff...89b8068737.png
Wrong! that's not me. But, he is a member of my team! A true patriot.Quote:
Originally Posted by arkansasbob
No, the insurance companies never put up a fight over the pre-x issue. They never put up a fight with the left because the left told them what they needed to hear. Those promises lasted less than 6 months. That's when many companies stopped writing Obama Care plans.Quote:
Originally Posted by tech70
Jo Jorgensen for POTUS!!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
.....yep, and I'm still waiting for him and a couple of other "liberal heathen globalist commie anti-americans" to say something nice about Trump. You notice how he dropped that idea like a hot potato. :laugh:
Hmmm.......So what's your point? :icon_razz:Quote:
Originally Posted by arkansasbob
are you talking about me? i've said plenty of nice things about trump. he's not a great guy, but at least he is better than any democrat president in my lifetime.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
I sincerely appreciate your comments above.Quote:
Originally Posted by arkansasbob
Those opinions would requireQuote:
Originally Posted by arkansasbob
you to know, at least to some degree, the man personally. I've noticed that many criticize Trump's person - and I don't think them qualified. That is part of the reason I was lukewarm toward our president, but now can't believe the Dems to any degree.
Watching MSNBC and of course the Minneapolis thing is Trump's fault and no criticism of the rioting and looting. We should understand that rioters are frustrated. That is Trump's fault, too.
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[QUOTE=PawDawg;1764017]No he didn’t. He campaigned on abolishing Obama Care. Then he realized most of the sheeple were in favor of the preX so he went with that part. He and those who favor it are wrong[/QUOTE]
Why?
Would you expect to be able to buy auto insurance after you wrecked your car? Homeowners insurance after your home burned?Quote:
Originally Posted by stodgdog
Did original Medicare or Medicaid cover pre-existing conditions?Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
It was not insurance. It was and is a government program.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp