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Personally, I did not want Trump negotiating a deal with China for anything, much less anything that would continue running our supply chain through them (especially for goods related to national health and security).

I seem to remember the CDC trying to purchase those masks before the virus was running rampant through the country, and they said they were not going to export any of them because they needed them. Think about that. The most powerful nation on Earth cannot get supplies for a pandemic because China doesn't want to sell them. So, just like WW2, we have to ramp up secondary sources (which takes time). India immediately stated they were going to hoard the base needed to make medicine as well.

Hopefully we learn from this and never go back to the altar of globalism again. See how close we are to singing kum ba yah when the going gets tough? India is thinking India first and China is thinking China first. Only the blind see an issue with thinking AMERICA FIRST.

Socialist!

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Socialist!

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Move to China. You'll be happier there.

Also, don't whine about us not having the supplies we need for the next crisis (which might be a war with China) when it happens.

AMERICA FIRST.

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Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow

Move to China. You'll be happier there.

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Sounds like you should.

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Sounds like you should.

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Perhaps we should just surrender to make you happy.

https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/china-seizes-covid-19-advantage-in-south-china-sea/

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Lol. This was no secret. Intel has been telling Trump this for a long time. He just disregarded it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...us%3f_amp=true

Here is a conservative source for you.

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This statement caught my attention "The slew of unnamed current and former officials cited by the Washington Post ". I can't access the Washington Post article. They also talk about documents but I'm not certain what they're referring to.

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Socialist!

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In what way does this involve social ownership of the means of production and the control thereof?

Or did you just not understand what "socialist" meant?

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This statement caught my attention "The slew of unnamed current and former officials cited by the Washington Post ". I can't access the Washington Post article. They also talk about documents but I'm not certain what they're referring to.

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"Unnamed" is the way they always cite officials when they make up the contents of the article.

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"Unnamed" is the way they always cite officials when they make up the contents of the article.

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You really think China put their country on lockdown for 6 weeks because a few thousand people died? Apparently Trump did.

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In what way does this involve social ownership of the means of production and the control thereof?

Or did you just not understand what "socialist" meant?

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Cause if the economics of the situation made sense otherwise, you wouldn’t need the government to tell these businesses what to produce and where to produce it.

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Cause if the economics of the situation made sense otherwise, you wouldn’t need the government to tell these businesses what to produce and where to produce it.

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It's not "free trade" when corruption is the reason it happens. Free trade sounds nice and official, but it's not always. Our national interest should always be considered. That includes health issues.

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It's not "free trade" when corruption is the reason it happens. Free trade sounds nice and official, but it's not always. Our national interest should always be considered. That includes health issues.

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What corruption are you talking about?

There have been 43,000 deaths in Wuhan City alone, and many more thousands in Wuhan Province scattered through the villages. The Chicoms have covered it up. They even rounded up and shipped those infected and suspected of being infected to "death" camps. To isolate them and basically let them die in the camps. This is how commie, tyrannical governments act.

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What corruption are you talking about?

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NAFTA was a great example.

Big Pharma takes advantage often. The FDA helps them out.

IMO, both examples harm(ed) our national interests.

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NAFTA was a great example.

Big Pharma takes advantage often. The FDA helps them out.

IMO, both examples harm(ed) our national interests.

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How do?