Terrorism in America

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Originally Posted by hoppinmad

Methinks you're right about the key word....well done!

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That's the wonderful thing about America. Ordinary folks can become well off if they are frugal and invest wisely. Somebody making $50k a year can do very well in the long run if they don't spend their money on things they don't need.

Don't let that money burn a hole in your pocket.

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Originally Posted by saltydawg

Methinks the key word is frugal. After all, I am a fiscal conservative.

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Originally Posted by saltydawg

Private insurance companies try to make a profit. A social insurance program like social security does NOT have to make a profit. The government self-insures itself. I don't know what risk you are talking about with regards to Social Security since actuaries constantly evaluate the system.

As for your statement that it is unamerican to force people to participate in Social Security, that is just a load of BS. Americans are force to do things everyday by their government. What you are saying is that Government is unamerican.:laugh:

What in the world gave you the idea that I'm "bad" with my money. Glad to hear that you know how markets work.

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Evaluating the system and changing the system are two very different things....and Congress with their mostly ignorant constituency are the ones who can change it. They either bump up the premiums at some point or push back the age with which can receive benefit or reduce benefits, and you have no choice in the matter. That is as unAmerican as it gets. It is crap.

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Originally Posted by dhussdawg

Evaluating the system and changing the system are two very different things....and Congress with their mostly ignorant constituency are the ones who can change it. They either bump up the premiums at some point or push back the age with which can receive benefit or reduce benefits, and you have no choice in the matter. That is as unAmerican as it gets. It is crap.

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No choice in the matter? It's called representative government, and while it may seem crappy, it is far better than other forms of government.

While I understand your disappointment with the unfairness of the modern post-industrial society, America is still a great country. Go buy yourself a nice 10 acre farm and disconnect from all the unAmerican activities around you.

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Originally Posted by saltydawg

Private insurance companies try to make a profit. A social insurance program like social security does NOT have to make a profit. The government self-insures itself. I don't know what risk you are talking about with regards to Social Security since actuaries constantly evaluate the system.

As for your statement that it is unamerican to force people to participate in Social Security, that is just a load of BS. Americans are force to do things everyday by their government. What you are saying is that Government is unamerican.:laugh:

What in the world gave you the idea that I'm "bad" with my money. Glad to hear that you know how markets work.

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Social security is not a mandated product. It's a forced retirement plan.

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Originally Posted by FishingBack

Social security is not a mandated product. It's a forced retirement plan.

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Yes, it is a forced retirement plan in that taxes are collected to pay for it but no one is forced to receive benefits from it. As I recall, Ronald Reagan never applied for benefits.

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Originally Posted by saltydawg

No choice in the matter? It's called representative government,
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And our representatives (99% of the Dems/libs politicians in DC) aren't listening and are not voting per the American peoples wishes on this issue and for that matter on the "bailout" and spending bills of the Pelosi/Read/Nobama government either.

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Originally Posted by saltydawg

Yes, it is a forced retirement plan in that taxes are collected to pay for it but no one is forced to receive benefits from it. As I recall, Ronald Reagan never applied for benefits.

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So, it isn't like the proposed healthcare mandate.

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Originally Posted by saltydawg

Methinks the key word is frugal. After all, I am a fiscal conservative.

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Originally Posted by mildawg

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Don't insult Forrest Gump by comparing him to Salty please.

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Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS

And our representatives (99% of the Dems/libs politicians in DC) aren't listening and are not voting per the American peoples wishes on this issue and for that matter on the "bailout" and spending bills of the Pelosi/Read/Nobama government either.

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Where do you get this stuff? Better lay off the Faux News for awhile and sober up.:D

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Originally Posted by FishingBack

So, it isn't like the proposed healthcare mandate.

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It isn't? What's the difference?

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Originally Posted by saltydawg

Where do you get this stuff? Better lay off the Faux News for awhile and sober up.:D

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Your little smilie above doesn't change the fact that you were wrong and that the American people, by a large majority, don't want what Nobama/Pelosi/Read are trying to force them to eat. Period!

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Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS

Your little smilie above doesn't change the fact that you were wrong and that the American people, by a large majority, don't want what Nobama/Pelosi/Read are trying to force them to eat. Period!

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You're right. The public wants the public option. Just a matter of time before they get it.

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Originally Posted by saltydawg

It isn't? What's the difference?

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Who's on first?

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Originally Posted by saltydawg

You're right. The public wants the public option. Just a matter of time before they get it.

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