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Nonsense! Somehow Guiss apparently edited the post I responded to. Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
August 3Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
120,846 cases 3,910 deaths
1,496 in hosp 230 on vents
Liberate Michigan!Quote:
Originally Posted by stodgdog
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Originally Posted by turbodawg
???
One data point does is not a trend.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Glad to see today’s dashboard. We’ll hope it keeps moving in the right direction.
President’s tweet.Quote:
Originally Posted by stodgdog
White House task force recommendations be damned.
That’s undermining the solution.
Hard to edit posts on this tablet.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbodawg
One data point does not a trend make.
I’m hopeful for continued better data, though.
August 4Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
124,461 cases 3,937 deaths
1,487 in hosp 240 on vents
Masking up is not workingQuote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
What makes you say that? Louisiana’s numbers are doing the same thing Texas’s did after the mask mandate. Your hospitalizations are now flat to down rather than going up like they were before the mandate.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Cases are going up if you believe that BS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
That "fact" will be enough for our Governor to keep us hunkered down for another 6 weeks. He could shut down all the Super Stores for two weeks and end this crap.
Is testing going up too? Like I said hospitalizations and positivity rates are the key metrics - not cases.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Trump could have done what any other developed country did and we could beyond this crap, too, but elections have consequences. Almost all of the country is mired up in the same situation as Louisiana right now.
Testing in Louisiana has reached 1.4 million tests. Some of that number is duplicates, even triplicates. I don't know, and probably no one knows, how many unique individuals that represents.
As for comparing the US to other countries, last night Laura Inghram did just that. She chose Germany, Italy, and about 4 other European countries to match the population of the US, some 320 million people. We are doing better in every category in comparison to the 6 countries selected. Now, maybe those 6 were chosen not only because of population so as to equal the US, but because they also happen to be struggling against the China virus. That I don't know. But!! in a simple case of apples to apples, the US is doing better than those 6 European countries, and our trends are better too.
Those suffering from TDS are incapable of rational thought, They are so stupid they'll compare the US to one other country that has 10% of our population and then point to raw numbers and scream, OMG! Such-n-Such country is doing so much better! We have 4X the number of cases! (and 10X the number of population).
Carry on all you TDSers...and thanks for the daily chuckles.
August 5Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
125,943 cases 3,978 deaths
1,471 in hosp 223 on vents
Testing has reached 1.47 million
There are 89,083 presumed recoveries, meaning that rate is 71%. Down to about 37K active cases.
Some anecdotal good news, FWIW. A friend works in a financial firm in S'port. They have those little cubby holes with everyone on top of each other. She says there are 43 employees crowded into two large rooms, and they have tried to institute some protocols, which she admits were woefully inadequate. The owners of the firm are old fashioned "slave drivers" and WORK, WORK, WORK! produce, produce! is the battle cry. Well...last week an employee reported they had tested positive for the China virus, and was home sick, with a low fever and feeling icky. The whole firm, a total of 55 employees, including clerical and management, went to get tested. They were prepared for the worst as most of them had bumped into the infected person on several occasions, had had conversations with that person, sometimes while not wearing a mask. Well, 100% negative test results!
That is very good news. But she always said it scared the heck out of the owners, especially one who is obese, a smoker, and not in good health. So! they are getting serious about PPEs and proper protocols, and the owners have agreed to allow some of the employees to work from home, since their duties are all on-line anyway, and they are creating a staggered shift, where 1/3 of the employees are not present allowing more social distancing. My friend is like, wow! that wake-up call got their attention, and the best part about it, no one got infected and violently ill.
Just one small light in all this China Virus darkness...
Dr. Billioux has addressed that repeatedly, as well as LDH’s reporting approach.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Unless you don’t trust him too.
I don't trust anything in regards to the stats for this China Virus crisis (hoax).Quote:
Originally Posted by turbodawg
But, tell me what this Dr. Billioux says of persons having multiple tests. I don't think it matters, except only to more accurately count unique individuals tested. But, even that is a "so what?" Some people have a legit reason to be tested again, and maybe even again, depending on their circumstances. By posting what I did, which you quoted, I was merely pointing out that there have been, and will continue to be, persons tested more than once. Such that if the number of tests ever reaches 4.3 million, one will not be able to say, now everyone in Louisiana has been tested, 100%.
August 6Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
127,246 cases 4,028 deaths
1,457 in hosp 215 on vents
August 7Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
128,746 cases 4,089 deaths
1,406 in hosp 207 on vents
1.5 million tests conducted
I had to have 4 tests in a 7 day period prior to shoulder surgery on the 31st -
2 of those tests was because of "mistakes" by the clinic/facility and testing center...
There were over 30 patients scheduled for surgery at the surgical center that day and all had to have do overs - this is just ONE instance in our area, I wonder how many of these instances are played out over the state and nation each week?
Dang, Dwayne! people like you just mess up the stats.
This Dr. Billioux has explained LDH’s approach to reporting many times. Crazy that you don’t seem to know who he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Northwestern State, Johns Hopkins MD, Oxford PhD.
I don’t think he built that resume to blow smoke in 2020. Smart cat. Louisiana is lucky to have him; luckier to keep him.
Worth a look-see:
http://app.lla.state.la.us/PublicReports.nsf/0/49980A77E1C2B9AA862585BC007253D6/$FILE/COVID_19.pdf?OpenElement&.7773098
Thanks for posting this. I don't know this Daryl Purpera, (sp ?) person, but I do know the LSA, and as a whole, they are top notch. I have had direct, sit down and meet with, dealings with state auditors since 2007...never on anything related to virus outbreaks (although that may be coming in for Natch Parish soon)... on budget matters. I have always found them to be straight-talkers, stand-up people. In fact, I nixed a visit from the state auditors for the Natch Parish government's budget/operations so as to give our new parish treasurer time to get a grasp of our finances, accounting and produce a report to the parish council. Next January, the state auditors will come in and check behind our new treasurer IF I think it is warranted. You NEVER, NEVER request an audit from the LSA office unless you have strong reasons to suspect hanky-panky or you are asking them to check something VERY specific. Notice how in this case DeSoto and Red River parishes asked a very specific question about the reporting of numbers on a very specific issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbodawg
Now, this report...as I said I have no reason not to trust the LSA. In my 13 years of dealing with them, they have never disappointed me. So! this means that somewhere above 1.5 million individual Louisianians have been tested and we have less than 40K active China virus cases...that is 40K too many, yes...that means that only 2.7% of Louisiana residents have tested positive and are still in some stage of active infection. But, not all of them are still in the contagious stage. I don't know what the % would be.
Is this good news? Well, as I said, 40K cases too many, but it appears to me with only 2.7% of the population having tested positive and the vast majority of those self-quarantining...we have gotten better in doing that...it is relatively safe for the rest of us. Now, the flip side of the question is: what about those who are infected, don't know that they are, and have never been tested? Well, given the size of the statistical sample, 35% of the total population has been tested, it is safe to assume that they too fit the statistical model. If, big IF, one assumes the entire population of Louisiana, all 4.3 million of us, have been exposed to the virus with ample opportunity to become infected, then the worst case scenario would be to add another 80K to the active infection number, for a grand total of 120K. Still 2.7% of the population.
Is that enough to lockdown, shutdown schools and other entities? Seems to me with some practical protocols in place...requiring PPEs, as appropriate, some distancing practices, checking people's temp, etc...that Louisiana, and really, the entire country can return to state of more normalcy.
I did mention that 55-person firm with 100% negative testing after a confirmed case of the virus in their midst. They got lucky? Maybe, but the statistics were on their side.
Never mind, Dwayne, it appears you did not mess up the stats...you have been counted only once. Great news!Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
August 10Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
131,961 cases 4,169 deaths
1,382 in hosp 215 on vents
August 11Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
133,125 cases 4,195 deaths
1,335 in hosp 214 on vents
August 12Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
134,304 cases 4,238 deaths
1,335 in hosp 214 on vents
103,512 presumed recovered, 77%
The in hosp and on vents numbers did not change from yesterday, probably not updated.
Read a story this morning where a family had 3 people test positive for COVID in Louisiana. 2 of the 5 members did not. When contacted by a state contact tracing staffer, the guy asked how many lived in the house, and he said 5. The tracing staffer said ok "5 positive for Covid". The dad said, 'no only 3 are positive', and the staffer responded, I'm putting 5 in my log. The Dad contacted the AG's office to report how the number was being reported wrong, and all they said was "we know".
It does make you question the data and accuracy.
That is why we look at hospitalizations and test positivity rates. Far more reliable data.
The data is only as reliable as those who present it.
"Garbage in, garbage out!"Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
You don’t trust LDH’s presentation?Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
They’re an open book; completely transparent.
Not doubting you, but can you source that?Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Of course. They are also perfect and never make mistakes that might benefit them.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbodawg
August 13Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
135,439 cases 4,279 deaths
1,320 in hosp 211 on vents
over 1.6 million tested
Completely transparent.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
The deep state isn’t on Bluebonnet.
Believe me, LDH isn’t benefiting.
4 ChiVi tests in 7 days?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden
Until I have reason not to...new evidence...I believe you in this matter. As I mentioned, two parishes called for a LSA check on their numbers and the auditors found that, for the most part, well...better than that, something like 98% accurate, the LDH dashboard is reporting good numbers, with processes in place to verify incoming data.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbodawg
This is good news. Louisiana has tested almost 1.7 million people...no duplicates...and we have fewer than 40K, well actually, much closer to 35K active cases. Of those about 27,300 will soon fully recover, the rest later on, maybe after a hospital stay for the worst cases, according to the stats, and 91 to, unfortunately, pass away. Given how horrible the China Virus is, it is comforting to know that statistically, we are all relatively safe from it.
Are they still located on Bluebonnet? I know DEQ was at one time but moved some time ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbodawg
August 14Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
136,737 cases 4,307 deaths
1,243 in hosp 197 on vents
The hospitalization numbers are continuing to encourage. That is a big drop.
And who is “we”. “You have a mouse in your pocket?“.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Those of us that are “in the know” and not watching FoxNews.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
August 17Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
138,485 cases 4,403 deaths
1,226 in hosp 184 on vents
And are therefore deprived of tons of information. Which explains how stupid you are here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I know some of you are viscerally offended by the New York Times ... still ....
What if ‘Herd Immunity’ Is Closer Than Scientists Thought?
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/17/h...6rr2cwdU6X7zi4
I am starting to think it is close in some of the earliest outbreak areas, Louisiana cities included. Next 2-4 weeks should tell us a lot on that score.
Caught a blurb on the radio...no, I am not sure what network it was, but was probably CBS Radio...stating researchers are saying if you've had the China Virus, even a mild case and didn't even know it, you have sufficient antibodies to ward off the virus and are therefore immune from it. I won't bother to verify this blurb myself because either Goosey will quickly produce links disputing it, and then I may or may not believe it, or Goosey will remain quiet which means the news is true.
I HOPE it is true!
They were probably reporting this article from NYT:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/16/h...ntibodies.html
NYT links to five studies:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....14.20174490v1
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....11.20171843v2
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7386524/
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....01.20166553v1
https://www.cell.com/action/showPdf?...674(20)31008-4
What we need to hear and was the early on belief.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Young and/or healthy (maybe even kiddos) could stop worrying. Of course the NCAA nazis are saying we'll never know what the damage done might be until years later. :icon_roll:
Yep! I would say the radio news was referencing these reports. This is very encouraging.Quote:
Originally Posted by JuBru
I know of THREE known relapses or "2nd cases" here in Claiborne Parish and I think Union has 4 or 5 repeats...Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Symptoms appear to be much milder the 2nd time around
Man! don't rain on our parade. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden
August 18Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
139,125 cases 4,431 deaths
1,204 in hosp 187 on vents
Trending the right way. We’ll see how she plays.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
It will blow up again when the governor allows us to start living normal lives.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbodawg
August 19Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
139,903 cases 4,468 deaths
1,160 in hosp 175 on vents
118,120 recovered...84.4%
Should Louisiana follow the White House response playbook or not? Would you do something differently?Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
The Governor has been consistent with Pence et al.
Yes, the "women's health facilities" were essential.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbodawg
BTW, what's up with all this stupid temp taking before entering certain buildings and getting a haircut?
August 20Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
140,821 cases 4,496 deaths
1,087 in hosp 178 on vents
JBE has yet to sign a pro-choice bill.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Dunno about your haircut place. Did you ask them?
Should loo-wussie-anna follow the White House playbook or not?
If not, what would you do differently?
JBE allowed the abortion clinics to remain open while closing even the smallest church.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbodawg
Yes, I asked. The attempt to keep people with a fever away is about people with a fever, not people with China Virus.
Our Governor has the option to be flexible on common sense issues. He is not been.
I'd use common sense.
Fever screening people in businesses where you cannot social distance is common sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
No it isn't. You MAYBE prevent a person with a fever from entering, but you don't prevent all people with China Virus from entering. Also, if a person has a low grade fever, they pop a couple of Tylenol and enter while sick with whatever caused the fever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I watched this crap happen at the Orthopedic Clinic in Monroe early in the week. So many elderly and sick are getting exposed to who knows what because the ridiculous temp taking gives people a false sense of security.
Same with Hospitals.
McFly... is anyone home?Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
It is a 5 second inconvenience to help slow the spread of Covid. No one is saying it solves the problem. You are also supposed to ask if they have had symptoms.
If someone wants to lie and take Tylenol to deceive the business, you can’t stop that without much much greater inconvenience.
My wife temp tests her clients at the beginning and ending big the day as a precaution against parents medicating their kids to avoid detection.
This is all about balancing safety against the cost of mitigation. Temp testing is the most common sense step you can take.
I have no problem with "common sense, pragmatic" protocols.
August 21Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
141,720 cases 4,546 deaths
1,051 in hosp 172 on vents
Who are these people who are too stupid to know when they “might” have a fever? Common sense does not prevent those who don’t have fever from spreading it. This check point crap is as ridiculous as telling people masks protect them and others.
Many people don’t know when they are running a mild fever. Most folks don’t take their temperature when they go out.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Masks and temp checks have been proven to make us safer. They don’t solve the problem entirely, but they are common sense and easy ways to reduce the spread.
If you had your way, they would have to go full lockdown again. No one wants that.
Could be worse...could be using rectal thermometers.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
I was checked 3 times in a 5-minute span recently at the courthouse, as they have different checkpoints, one at the entrance and two more inside. I had to go to the different parts of the building to pick up a report and then have a meeting, so lucky me, I got to pass all three. At the main door, I was 98.6, at the first check point, 2nd floor, I was 99.2, then down the hall, 98.4. All in under 5 minutes. I suppose the inexpensive digital devices have some "play" in 'em.
You feel bad or feverish you take your own temp. You are saying some don’t know when they feel bad (feverish). That’s BS. Distancing is common sense
My body always feels feverish (since I'm always fighting an infection), so I usually ignore it unless there is something else going on, too. The highest temp I've had since February is 99.7.
He did it? No. The Governor has been consistent in his stance on abortion.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Churches have absolutely not been closed, even the smallest of them.
I guess a temp measurement as a screening tool is easy enough for a haircut place to manage, versus testing for the virus...
Common sense...you get a playbook, you execute it. Again, what you do differently?
He deemed the abortion clinics "essential". Totally his call. Yes he has been consistent to follow the dirty money.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbodawg
Many churches have been closed. Even the smallest of them. Not sure where you have been for the past six months.
Been though the ridiculous temp thing. See other posts.
Distancing is the only common sense thing remaining. If he want's to make a difference he should enforce the distancing "rules" he has put in place instead of ignoring them in all the "essential" businesses.
I'm making my weekly 7:00 AM run to Walmart this morning. By the time I leave around 7:45 the store will be packed with obese hover round riders who should never have left their homes. THERE'S a problem that would be easily solved with a common sense approach, but it would be deemed discrimination.
You gotta start fact checking your Facebook news.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
https://www.wwno.org/post/gov-edward...down-violation
This is an Edwards puff piece that does not dispute the fact that he had the power to shut them down, but did not. The clinics remain open. Churches remain closed.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
I don't get me news from FB. I get it all my anti-Edwards news from Moon Griffon.
Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Oh Lord...Facebook is probably better! Moon lost it during the Jindal years. All he knows how to do is push conspiracy theories and make bad logical leaps.
Here’s the order: https://ldh.la.gov/assets/oph/Corona...dures32120.pdf
So pro-abortion that the state clinics brought a suit against the state.
August 24Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
143,566 cases 4,623 deaths
939 in hosp 152 on vents
Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Not bad, down 287 and 32 respectively.
August 25Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
144,116 cases 4,656 deaths
930 in hosp 141 on vents
Our Governor wants to stay hunkered down.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
August 26Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
144,968 cases 4,688 deaths
914 in hosp 148 on vents
Recovery rate is at 88%
August 30Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
147,867 cases 4,768 deaths
902 in hosp 143 on vents
Just returned to Louisiana yesterday and it has been non-stop cleaning up messes and coordinating with contractors. Natch is w/o Internet services as AT&T provides the high band fiber optics cable and they are still repairing line. But, I am able to log on via I-phone "hotspot" via my laptop. Thus, my late update on the China virus stats...
August 31Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
148,193 cases 4,787 deaths
881 in hosp 132 on vents
nearly 1.9 million tested
Will probably see an uptick in cases due to most China virus protocols being relaxed or non-existent due to Hurricane Laura aftermath. Have been delivering ice and water to those without power today and many families have displaced relatives up from Lake Charles and surrounding areas. No masks being worn as they all try to stay as cool as possible. Also, lots of folks at relief stations and churches giving out free food, water and ice...not everyone masked-up. Concerns about the virus taking a backseat to more pressing needs. But, yes, some folks are wearing masks.
Or we will strengthen the herd immunity aspect of this virus...Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Well, that would be one good thing to come out of this mess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden
September 1Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
148,882 cases 4,821 deaths
910 in hosp 128 on vents
September 2Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
149,838 cases 4,841 deaths
873 in hosp 132 on vents
Recovered rate at 89.7%
September 3Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
150,651 cases 4,858 deaths
851 in hosp 128 on vents
September 4Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
151,473 cases 4,872 deaths
808 in hosp 96 on vents
September 7Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
153,177 cases 4,942 deaths
787 in hosp 124 on vents
Have a notion the on vents # from Friday is not correct.
September 8Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
153,433 cases 4,955 deaths
799 in hosp 131 on vents
Just like the stock market...have to give something back some days. Could be the effects of Laura are starting to be felt. Many people simply had no choice but to suspend social distancing and in some cases, had no masks to wear.