Covid - 19

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp;1762046[B

]Yes, and don’t do that. Try to annunciate through your mask and hopefully your stores have already transitioned to touchless payments. Mind your distance from people. If everyone does that, fewer people will get this disease. [/B]

Even then, you and others are at risk when you go out in public. Transmission will still happen, but the R0 value of this virus will be driven down. If we can drive it below 1, which seems unlikely based on the percentage of numbskulls that are posting in this forum, the disease will get contained and the number of active cases will drop gradually over time. Until we have a vaccine, that is the best course, and wearing a damn mask is a pretty simple way to show respect to your community.

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If everyone followed the rules we wouldn’t need police departments or jails!

I think Goosey has a groupie, eagle2180. Isn't that precious.

And, Goosey assigns a lot of power to you "numbskulls" on this forum. Obviously I'm not included in that company, but you know who you are. He says you "numbskulls" are keeping the R0 value above 1. Yes, you! Doesn't matter what the other 330 million Americans do, the ball is in your court. I pray you use this power wisely.

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Originally Posted by eagle2180

Real world scenario... a person with a cloth mask or surgical mask coughs in the store. While in the checkout line they remove their mask so the cashier can hear them and then they use a debit or credit card. Any chance of transmission?

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Yes, and don’t do that. Try to annunciate through your mask and hopefully your stores have already transitioned to touchless payments. Mind your distance from people. If everyone does that, fewer people will get this disease.

Even then, you and others are at risk when you go out in public. Transmission will still happen, but the R0 value of this virus will be driven down. If we can drive it below 1, which seems unlikely based on the percentage of numbskulls that are posting in this forum, the disease will get contained and the number of active cases will drop gradually over time. Until we have a vaccine, that is the best course, and wearing a damn mask is a pretty simple way to show respect to your community.

Do we currently have a vaccine for existing corona viruses or rhinovirus? Why is everyone so confident we can develop an effective vaccine for Covid?

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Originally Posted by eagle2180

Do we currently have a vaccine for existing corona viruses or rhinovirus? Why is everyone so confident we can develop an effective vaccine for Covid?

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We might not ever get one. That is always a possibility.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

I think Goosey has a groupie, eagle2180. Isn't that precious.

And, Goosey assigns a lot of power to you "numbskulls" on this forum. Obviously I'm not included in that company, but you know who you are. He says you "numbskulls" are keeping the R0 value above 1. Yes, you! Doesn't matter what the other 330 million Americans do, the ball is in your court. I pray you use this power wisely.

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The more people that comply the lower the R0 will be.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

The more people that comply the lower the R0 will be.

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Yep, the more people observed wearing masks will make the R0 fall....it’s a contrived number based on estimates and biased data.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

We might not ever get one. That is always a possibility.

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I'll be screwed.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

I think Goosey has a groupie, eagle2180. Isn't that precious.

And, Goosey assigns a lot of power to you "numbskulls" on this forum. Obviously I'm not included in that company, but you know who you are. He says you "numbskulls" are keeping the R0 value above 1. Yes, you! Doesn't matter what the other 330 million Americans do, the ball is in your court. I pray you use this power wisely.

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I’m all for Making America Great Again. That will require a better understanding of math and science. It will require ingenuity. Some of the comments fromTrump in the last few days and his deference to Fauci, give me pause. Trump is a great business man. He lacks a lot when it comes to math and science....He has a tendency to remove people that do not agree with him. I consider it his biggest fault.

In the words of Andy Dufresne “ Get busy living or get busy dying”.

There are many people over the years that died so we could live with freedom and liberty. I wonder what they would say in today’s world.

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Originally Posted by eagle2180

I’m all for Making America Great Again. That will require a better understanding of math and science. It will require ingenuity. Some of the comments fromTrump in the last few days and his deference to Fauci, give me pause. Trump is a great business man. He lacks a lot when it comes to math and science....He has a tendency to remove people that do not agree with him. I consider it his biggest fault.

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He should have cleaned house of all those obummer appointees who have been undermining his presidency. He has done some, and is presently continuing to do more, but he has not done enough. After he is re-elected he needs to make sweeping dismissals through the executive branch bureaucrats.

Fauci is not some all-knowing perfect person. He offers advice and guidance from strictly one point of view. Fauci was not elected president, Trump was, and it is up to Trump to take all the information presented and make a decision. It's kind of like my CPA...he is a brilliant CPA. Knows the tax code forward and backward, has contacts in the IRS who he can call and get some guidance on some matters. He gives me advice on how to manage my business/personal affairs from a tax-ramification point of view. I listen intently to his guidance, but ultimately it is my decision, and sometimes I see things from a business management perspective which does not follow the strictest tax benefit route. He will nod and move on to the next item. There are purists who are experts in their fields who can offer great advice, and there are managers who can take that wealth of information, which sometimes is in opposition to each other, and make management decisions that best marries all the perspectives.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

He should have cleaned house of all those obummer appointees who have been undermining his presidency. He has done some, and is presently continuing to do more, but he has not done enough. After he is re-elected he needs to make sweeping dismissals through the executive branch bureaucrats.

Fauci is not some all-knowing perfect person. He offers advice and guidance from strictly one point of view. Fauci was not elected president, Trump was, and it is up to Trump to take all the information presented and make a decision. It's kind of like my CPA...he is a brilliant CPA. Knows the tax code forward and backward, has contacts in the IRS who he can call and get some guidance on some matters. He gives me advice on how to manage my business/personal affairs from a tax-ramification point of view. I listen intently to his guidance, but ultimately it is my decision, and sometimes I see things from a business management perspective which does not follow the strictest tax benefit route. He will nod and move on to the next item. There are purest who are experts in their fields who can offer great advice, and there are managers who can take that wealth of information, which sometimes is in opposition to each other, and make management decisions that best marries all the perspectives.

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Problem is that when Trump listens to his experts and then goes against them he comes up with bad ideas like treating the body with UV and disinfectant.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

Problem is that when Trump listens to his experts and then goes against them he comes up with bad ideas like treating the body with UV and disinfectant.

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Fauci has stated that Trump has given him everything that the task for has asked for and when they asked for it. Gov of California and New York said the exact same thing.

https://time.com/5826918/hokkaido-coronavirus-lockdown/