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Ok Hamilton.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I just read the article again and it is completely consistent with what I have been telling you guys from day 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Let’s review:
Trump appointed a failure to lead HHS over the objection of democrats.
Trump’s decision to restrict travel to China wasn’t a maverick move against the advice of his advisors.
Trump failed to manage Azar and failed to ask the follow-up questions any good CEO would ask when managing a crisis.
Azar, like all other loyalty hounds, will say what he needs to say not to piss off and draw the retribution of a boss that can’t handle criticism.
What did I miss?
Oh yeah. Forgot one other fact from the article. The US is STILL failing on testing months later. As if the guys in charge can’t learn from their previous mistakes.
Epic failure of leadership.
Because of failures by the CDC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
You’re delusional and a joke to just about everyone on this board.
But keep the comedy coming.
You understand the CDC reports to Trump, right? He is in charge of managing them via his appointee to the HHS.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
He hired an incompetent yes-man manager to direct the CDC and he failed to manage the manager.
Back to civics for you, Mr. Magoo.
Yes, you should definitely know what incompetent leadership looks like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I don't see how you can take what Trump said seriously, yet deny Biden, Pelosi and others called Trump xenophobic regarding his China ban.. to use your words.. "context".. ROFL...Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
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Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Do you really think the Gov of California and Cuomo fear Trump?? ROFL...
Dems have correctly been calling Trump xenophobic since he was campaigning for President. Hard to believe you missed that.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Don’t know if you missed the briefing, but Trump was definitely serous. Not a hint of sarcasm in his tone.
I see you didn’t answer the question. What happens when people criticize Trump? There is no doubt that there are consequences.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Trump can’t fire Cuomo or Newsom but he can withhold needed assistance. They have to walk a fine line to get what they need.
Of course I do. Trump has been president for over 3 years now. We all know what incompetent leadership looks like, you just haven’t learned how to identity it yet, Magoo.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
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Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Here is the full quote from Pelosi on January 31:
“The Trump Administration's expansion of its outrageous, un-American travel ban threatens our security, our values and the rule of law. The sweeping rule, barring more than 350 million individuals from predominantly African nations from traveling to the United States, is discrimination disguised as policy,"
There can be NO DOUBT that her comments were regarding the expansion of the Muslim travel ban that the administration issued the same day as the China travel restrictions. Pelosi has never criticized the China travel restrictions.
Not only did the Chicoms create this virus and unleash it on the world, lie about it, reject offers to help, and deny independent findings about it, but they hoarded all the tools (PPEs, etc.) the world needed early on to deal with it. And now they are selling fake testing kits..."counterfeit" is the actual term used by those nations who bought them. Some of those fake testing kits ended up in the US. As if it wasn't bad enough there were inaccurate test kits early on, returning overwhelming false positives, but for the Chicoms to sell fake kits they know don't work is criminal.
As I always do, I look for a silver lining in all things. In this case I hope the world, including this country, take this as a wake up call and treat China the way it is: a criminal rogue nation.
LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I may be Mr. Magoo but my vision is still a lot better than yours Hamilton.
Your problem is your biases significantly impact your interpretation of the facts.
You see obstruction where there isn't any.
You see quid pro quo where there isn't any.
You say Trump hasn't followed the advice of the Covid-19 experts when he has, much to his detriment I might add.
You have always held Trump to a higher standard than any President or CEO in history. That's a very naive point of view.
I acknowledge and understand Trump's faults but also realize he is by far the lesser of two evils. I could never support a democratic party that is out to fundamentally transform America to a completely socialist, globalist country, and that is willing to destroy this country and anyone in it to get what they want. I might add that unfortunately there are a lot of republicans that fall into that same boat with the Democrats.
I didn’t say he hasn’t followed his advisors. I said “when he doesn’t.” Go back and read the post, this time with your glasses. When he doesn’t follow them, he seems to have terrible ideas - like treatment with UV and disinfectant.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
I hold Trump to the same standard as Obama who I was very critical of. Trump could never be a CEO of anything other than a closely-held corporation where he was a majority shareholder. You are clueless if you think otherwise. He is bankrupted 6 of his businesses and completely shuttered at least a dozen others. His lack of accountability, lack of attention to detail, unethical conduct, dishonesty and poor judgment disqualifies him for being a CEO of a publicly traded company.
There was obstruction (and abuse of power). You should also read the Mueller report. It was quite an indictment of how anti-American Trump really is. It says their is ample evidence that shows (1) he wanted Russia to interfere, (2) he sought their help publicly and through Don Jr, to get them to interfere, (3) that Russia did in fact interfere for the purpose of helping him. The only element that Mueller couldn’t prove was that Russia and Trump had “an agreement.”
The Mueller report did outline a case for obstruction of justice but said that he did not have the authority to bring it. He pointed out that Congress had the power. They punted. The report is damning. Put on your glasses and read it.