read the facts, not the hype.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgbitten
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read the facts, not the hype.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgbitten
...and there you have it!Quote:
Originally Posted by arkansasbob
Now if only I can think of a way to take advantage of the earth warming up to make myself richer.
Audrey isn't but Gussyou gotta admit Rand bears a remarkable similarity to the wicked witch in The Wizard of Oz and that same lady in the opening scene that wanted to to take Toto away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
She was cold, heartless, and shallow just like Ayn was. :icon_wink:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science...eut/index.html
Hurricanes (frequency + power) are not driven strongly by surface temperatures. Specifically, the article observes a pretty significant INCREASE in hurricane activity during the little ice age, and notes that we've had worse hurricane periods over the last 5000 yr than we are currently having, despite the supposed highs in temperature.
Also suggests that hurricane activity trends fairly well with El Nino events and West African monsoon records. In fairness, the link between surface temperature and el nino/monsoons is not clear at this point, as they also point out.
I'm not surprised, though, that this article got pushed off of the main page on cnn after about 30 minutes of early morning exposure.
Hurricanes are driven by water temperatures. AGW doesn't mean a change in the number of hurricanes, just that there will be more of the most intense ones.
Note: the reasercher in the above mentioned article made his conclusions based on indirect geologic evidence. Conclusions about the effect of AGW on hurricane intensity are based on current observations of sub-surface water temperatures.
which indirect evidence are you referring to? He's taking the temperature records touted by the AGW community and matching it the size of deposits placed in a lagoon (which is generally protected from new deposits, except when water gets pushed over the barrier).Quote:
Originally Posted by saltydawg
His arguments in support of El Nino and African Monsoon effects are indirect, that is correct. But the data clearly suggests that temperature is FAR not the biggest driver in hurricane activity - see the little ice age.
What i'm saying is that the intensity of hurricanes is directly related to near surface water temperatures. That has been proven by modern science. The "little ice age" you refer to occurred in Europe.......what the sea temperatures in the Gulf of Mexico were during those years is not established to the best of my knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by randerizer
As far as El Nino and African Monsoon are concerned, it seems they are related to the frequency of hurricanes.
I truly believe that the intensity of a hurricane is directly proportional to how much rum you put in it.
The ones at Pat O's will knock you on your butt.Quote:
Originally Posted by marketdawg
this should be fairly easy to test. what were the "average" near surface water temperatures in the gulf of mexico and the southern north atlantic for each of the past 7 or 8 summers? plot that against the product of the number of hurricanes that year and their maximum intensity (1-5). this should at least give us an idea if this statement holds water.Quote:
Originally Posted by saltydawg
yes researchers have discovered why the ice caps were melting...it was once thought that increasing CO2 levels were the cause by global warming...but this photo has been taken proving without a doubt that polar bears having too many BBQs was the real reason the ice caps were melting...
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~bgmark_quik/bear1.gif
U.S. Scales Back Climate Satellites
"(WASHINGTON) — The Bush administration is drastically scaling back efforts to measure global warming from space, just as the president tries to convince the world the U.S. is ready to take the lead in reducing greenhouse gases.
A confidential report to the White House, obtained by The Associated Press, warns that U.S. scientists will soon lose much of their ability to monitor warming from space using a costly and problem-plagued satellite initiative begun more than a decade ago. Because of technology glitches and a near-doubling in the original $6.5 billion cost, the Defense Department has decided to downsize and launch four satellites paired into two orbits, instead of six satellites and three orbits..."
...remember we're not talking about just the atlantic and gulf of mexico. Hence the term "GLOBAL" The arabian sea is churning up a CAT 4 cyclone in an area that rarely sees a storm of this magnitude.
Powerful Cyclone Gonu heads to Persian Gulf
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/hurr...one-gonu_N.htm
THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!!!!!!