Just wait for the two weeks following this past weekend. We'll be back in phase one when our Governor looks at the numbers...Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
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Just wait for the two weeks following this past weekend. We'll be back in phase one when our Governor looks at the numbers...Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Yes, I imagine Obama, Soros and “The Squad” will demand the blue state governors lock done again pretty soon. Of course Biden/Harris want to shut down the country again as well so they can get their cheating scam of mail in votes cranked up in time.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
September 9Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
154,955 cases 4,970 deaths
782 in hosp 123 on vents
Recovery rate at 91%. And are rapidly approaching 2 million people tested statewide.
And the old stat of percent of those tested yielding a positive is 7.8%.
Why doesn’t the Pence-lead task force change the gating criteria? Serious question.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Amazing that you can go around aunt Mona's house to find a way to blame bad orange man for what our cowardly governor is doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbodawg
Moon is lying to you again.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
September 10Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
155,419 cases 4,991 deaths
762 in hosp 125 on vents
JBE announced we're moving to Phase 3.
Did Pence give him the ok?Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
More details will be presented tomorrow at a news conference, but based on what he said, yes, basically. They (I guess all governors) were on a conference call recently with the WH task force, and it appears that Dr. Birx was the primary speaker/host, and according to the criteria Louisiana qualified for Phase 3 last week, but JBE opted to hold off for a week to measure the impact, if any, of Hurricane Laura.
Masks are still required, mandated, but there will be relaxation of restrictions on numbers of people allowed into a restaurant....hopefully Joe Aillet Stadium!!!...and other policies. Again, details tomorrow.
BTW, as this pertains to that other FAKE news story, it appears governors have been holding these conference calls with the WH task force since its inception some 6 or 7 months ago. Usually it is Dr. Birx, maybe Pence, and/or the surgeon general and/or other medical/virus experts, who have facilitated the calls. It's amazing that Trump was able to cherry-pick the info and keep just the right parts away from all those goofy Dems out there. Apparently JBE, a Dem, doesn't think he's been denied any pertinent information. His comments seem to point to his satisfaction with how the WH has handled it all. Silly man...
Another BTW, right at the end of the news conference he was asked about the recall petition which is gathering steam across the state. He bravely said he's not worried about it, "doesn't keep me up at night." But, I can read expressions like some of you can read a billboard, he is hurt by it. No, I don't think he's worried, but he is hurt. It's human nature, and I don't care who you are or think you are, it has to hurt that you learn that at least a segment of the population wants you gone like this. I am telling you, he is hurt by it. I don't care very much for JBE and his lib policies, but I felt for him at that moment. It stings.
I don't care whether he was hurt or not. My family is hurt that we can't watch our daughter play volleyball because he is an idiot and will only allow 50 people in a gym that 75 or 100 are in throughout the day at any one time. They have 3 chances to sign this weekend. I haven't signed it yet, but I certainly don't care if he shed a tear or not. He is a terrible gov. Would Rispone have been better- who knows, but he would have had very little trouble being better than what we currently have in place.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
I'm not defending JBE or his policies. Ya lost me on the 3 chances to sign, you haven't signed it yet stuff. Don't know what that refers to. As for his hurting or not, yeah, I get it. I just had a momentary lapse into a very human weakness...pity. I'm better now...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cal&Ken
Except those conference calls were not happening yet in February when Pelosi, Cuomo and DeBlasio were expressing a sense of calm.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
So? And I don't have a problem with anyone expressing "a sense of calm." But, that's not what those three stooges were doing. They were purposely politically posturing, trying to show-up the POTUS, with their calls to ignore any and all calls for caution re: personal protection against the then, mostly unknown China virus threat. Trump issues a travel ban against China, and Pelosi marches her skinny lil ass down to CHINAtown and announces everything is safe, ignore that xenomorphic orange man in the WH.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Everyone else...with the possible exception of johnny...knows exactly what the stooges were doing and are not fooled by any of it. You think that 7 months later you can post revisionist history and folks will be like...oh, really? thanks for the reminder. NOT!
You know Chinatown is not actually in China, right? It was not like she was saying it was safe to go to China.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
You are the one trying to revise history.
I’m not at all. I’m asking you a serious question.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Should he or should he not implement the policy and procedure playbook given to him by the White House re: covid19? That’s a pickle. And that’s not terrible governance, just the reality of current climes, unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cal&Ken
Maybe Dr. Abraham would possibly had a different take and approach to it.
Eddie Rispone’s platform was he put a Trump sticker on his truck, and liked lsu football.
OMG!!! you truly are stupid! LOL! at you. Didn't think it was still possible, but you just sank again on the credibility meter, and the IQ meter as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I didn't defend Rispone- I voted for him the second time because there was no other choice. The idiot has held Louisiana high school sports hostage this entire time. The kids didn't know if they were going to play football or not until this week. Now, when there are numerous locations out there for people to sign the recall he is opening up the bars and sports. He knows he would have been run out of town if the rabid LSU fans didn't get to go or at least watch in the bars. He is terrible. Now, of course the entire time, even when everything was locked down, the abortion clinics were full speed ahead. Our supposedly pro-life governor didn't mind allowing the babies to get killed. The recall is building steam- he may have slowed it by bringing back sports and the bars.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbodawg
Fake news. Read the order. See how the clinics responded (they sued).Quote:
Originally Posted by Cal&Ken
You act like it was all the clinics. Only about three clinics were involved in that story. The rest were full speed ahead.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
How many clinics do you think there are in LA?Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
September 11Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
156,174 cases 5,032 deaths
723 in hosp 117 on vents
Still counting? I can save you some time. It’s 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
So! 5 parishes meet the criteria to totally stop all China virus protocols. But the local parish government has to opt to adopt those measures. The statewide positivity rate from testing has dropped to 6.8%. When the statewide rate dips below 5% and stays there for 14 days, then the state has more options to further reduce restrictions.
That does not meant they shut down the procedure in all "clinics" Do you think these three clinics were the only places fighting to stay open and operating?Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
I didn’t think you were defending Rispone. That was a ‘jus sayin’.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cal&Ken
Should he or should he not implement the policy and procedure playbook given to him by the White House re: covid19?
I have not been on JBE's case re: the China virus. Like every other political leader he made some mistakes, especially early on when there was little known and/or contradictory and confusing information. JBE allowed Mardi Gras...oh no! What a moron! He obviously hates people and wants them to die!!! Except...nah. While Mardi Grad greatly contributed to the spread of the virus, and in hindsight, should have been cancelled, it is just as stupid to accuse JBE of wanting people to die as it is for idiots to accuse Trump of that. JBE has followed the guidance as has been disseminated, as best he could. Local officials have to take the ball and run with it too. And, most importantly, PEOPLE need to take the ultimate responsibility for themselves.
Yesterday we remembered 9/11. We also know our lives forever changed that day. Security at airports and other aspects of our lives changed and will never go back. It's the new normal. And that's because there are still mooslim terrorists out there that will gladly do it again. Well...the Chicoms, and others, will continue to engineer dangerous viruses and release them on the world. And! combine the two...imagine, if you dare, mooslim terrorists and contagious viruses. So! I foresee tougher travel standards, especially at international airports, and this country had better be prepared to institute draconian measures as necessary...not kow tow to the Left's very predictable hair-pulling and screaming about xenophobia and all their other bullshit...or! all you trying to blame Trump now just STFU! The next pandemic is most likely to occur in about 10 years or so. That seems to be the cycle...unless the Chicoms artificially speed up the process...and thus Trump will not be POTUS next go-around. The biggest question is, is the country, and others, prepared to take the necessary steps when it does happen again? (and, it will...)
September 14Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
157,947 cases 5,082 deaths
664 in hosp 105 on vents
September 15Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
158,318 cases 5,108 deaths
667 in hosp 99 on vents
I know 5 people who either have, or just had the China virus. One, who still has it, is in tough shape, put on a ventilator. Prospects are not encouraging. One business associate is recovering from it, she texted me she can't talk because it starts her on a coughing binge. But, she is home and doing okay. The other three were husband, wife, and grown daughter...all three had it, he was briefly admitted to the hospital but was released after two days. Just saw all three posting on social media today, so I suppose they are doing okay.
Then...there's the merry band of party animals in the 'hood who continually have gatherings and no one appears to have been infected. Of course, they have just a little blood in their alcohol, so maybe their bodies are so pickeled the virus cannot survive in them!
Definitely worth trying. What’s the downside?
September 16Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
158,826 cases 5,126 deaths
678 in hosp 107 on vents
Recovery rate at 92%
JBE had already moved us back to phase 2 with this trend a few weeks ago.
One of the NSU football players in one of my rentals tested positive so the whole house is on lockdown. This is the second time this has happened. Different player but in same house. Absolutely no symptoms. Spoke with him, at a distance, yesterday. He and his roomies are frustrated by it all. They said if we weren't tested we, and everyone else, would never know any of us had it. True. But I explained it's not about y'all...young and in great physical shape as athletes...it's about who you might come into contact with. To which Reggie says, yes, like you Mr. Dawg80, being old and all of that...I cut him off, "Watch it bud!"
Of course they are so frustrated too by the SLC choosing not to play, especially as they see other conferences playing.
Auto 2 week lock down if a person comes into contact with a positive...this is insane! The definition of "contact" is a moving target. NOTHING scientific about that decision. It's slinging stuff against the wall to see if it sticks.:icon_roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
159,304 cases 5,143 deaths
663 in hosp 106 on vents
Hospital numbers down. We get a break for the weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
3rd full week out from LauraQuote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
If we see a bump or surge it should show in this upcoming week
In schools, it is worse than that. In Bossier Parish, it is 10 days after they were around someone and then 14 days. They literally miss a month of school.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Where does the guidance come from?Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
The same place the open states are getting it from...the governor.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbodawg
Wrong. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...isolation.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
And that link was an embedded link in the CDC’s school guidelines.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...e/schools.html
We know this will slow the spread, thus allow schools to stay reopened. That is why it is done this way.
Had we taken these steps from the beginning (like Taiwan did) we wouldn’t be in this situation presently.
I'll play along.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Is Taiwan the only country that did it right?
They are the gold standard. On the opposite side of the spectrum from us.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
September 18Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
160,283 cases 5,172 deaths
647 in hosp 104 on vents
Of course and we have so much in common with them...:icon_roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I didn't figure you'd answer my question. I've asked you this every time you point out one these pissant countries did it the right way.
Hey! Taiwan is not a pissant country. They will stand up to the Chicom bullies, and will be at ground zero for the start of World War III, should it happen. They will bleed the Red Army...make 'em pay for daring to test the resolve of Taiwan and the Pacific coalition. Unless of course Biden wins then the Taiwanese should bend down and kiss their asses goodbye...but they will still make the Chicoms pay a heavy price.
We've been sending cheap manufacturing to them for how long? We've been taking care of them, but since they are some of our primary cheap manufacturers., we should ask them how to respond to the China virus.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
They are also home to the leading semiconductor manufacturer.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Whoa! the number of people I know who have tested positive is exploding. For 6 months I hardly knew anyone who tested positive. Now....OMG! But, with the exception of one person, who I mentioned in a previous post, none of them have symptoms. Two close friends who are our age and grandparents and all of that, have tested positive and Mark is like, what a hoax! No symptoms. Feels great.
I know this, when you really have the flu...you know it! This China virus is something else.
September 21Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
161,462 cases 5,207 deaths
587 in hosp 93 on vents
I was down for 2 days. Ran a low grade temp and then had congestion for a couple of weeks. I thought it was just a mild flu. Then I donated blood in June and they told me I had the antibodies.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Thank you for your contribution to building herd immunity.Quote:
Originally Posted by GonzoDawg
Speaking of the flu...just got the flu shot today. I had to, if I didn't and got the flu, having to hear it from the wife would be far worse than getting the shot and any such consequences. Actually, it is the mildest shot you can get. I looked away for a moment (okay, yes, an attractive young lady walked by...) and said to the nurse, okay...and she was putting that little band aid on it, all done! Never felt a thing.
Get your flu shot, y'all!
Taiwan??? Heck, China didn’t want to infect the country they’re going to invade dude! It just wasn’t going to happen in any major way and didn’t happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
September 22Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
162,214 cases 5,218 deaths
571 in hosp 96 on vents
And 2.2 million people tested in the state. That is roughly half the population.
Tests or people tested?Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Ask your fellow lib, turbodawg, he'll tell you that's unique people tested. No duplications. Which means the actual number of tests conducted easily exceeds 2.5 million and probably more like 2.7 million+.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
September 23Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
162,645 cases 5,225 deaths
592 in hosp 94 on vents
Recovery rate at 92%
No, as I read it, the +2.2MM tests are just that. Tests.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
I don’t think it takes any kind of political persuasion to pick up the phone to talk to LDH to get clarification, though. Lots of good folks putting in apolitical science, even with years of budget cuts.
Oh, I did see that (the pride of Northwestern State) Alex Billioux took it to the house. That’s a real loss to public health in Louisiana. I can’t blame him, though. Lead a horse to water these days, and public health experts are getting death threats.
LOL! YOU were the one that stated emphatically that there are NO duplications reported in the numbers! Now, you go 180 and state the opposite.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbodawg
This is the problem with you libs, when you stand for nothing, you have nothing to stand for. Or...whatever the saying is. Really, you libs grasp at straws and what is the "truth" before is no longer when it no longer suits you. Well, whatever...
The problem with Republicans is that double, triple and quadruple down even when they know they are wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
No, we had this discussion on this forum. I was questioning if the number of tests included duplicates and even mentioned I have been tested three times. Turbo took exception to that and cited the state auditors had checked two parishes and he also stated there was a checking process to assure the numbers reported did NOT include duplications. I said, okay, as I have no reason to question the findings of state auditors who I mentioned I have always found to be very professional and seekers of facts. But, now, turbo does a 180...Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
It's not me, ask him why he has flip-flopped.
September 24Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
163,222 cases 5,241 deaths
575 in hosp 92 on vents
No, bruh. I said there was no duplication in cases for multiple positive tests. You can read the dashboard. Or call your regional LDH.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
No, scroll back and refresh. And reread what I said and what LLA said.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Hell, I could certainly be wrong. But I believe if LDH meant +2.2MM people in Louisiana have been tested, they’d say exactly that.
Wait, is there any state or country in the world that’s tested HALF of the population?? Occam’s razor, and all.
September 25Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
163,928 cases 5,262 deaths
570 in hosp 86 on vents
September 28Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
165,091 cases 5,298 deaths
563 in hosp 83 on vents
September 29Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
165,624 cases 5,308 deaths
578 in hosp 80 on vents
Looks like our governor ordered the testing centers to step it up a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
It's two steps forward, one step back. Testing has accelerated, up to 2.3 million tests now, but I don't know how many unique persons that represents, since turbo reversed himself.
Average age of deceased is 75, with hypertension the number one underlying cause.
I didn’t. Call LDH; they’re easy to talk to and doing some yeoman’s work.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
The posts discussing that is buried in this thread somewhere. I'm not going to look for them, but they're here.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbodawg
September 30Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
166,033 cases 5,321 deaths
553 in hosp 79 on vents
The governor says I should wear an approved mask while I'm bow hunting AM. I reckon I will comply. Anything stupid to make him think we believe his BS.
October 1Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
166,584 cases 5,329 deaths
534 in hosp 75 on vents
Seriously?Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
You don't want deer catching the China virus, do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
October 2Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
167,401 cases 5,355 deaths
536 in hosp 74 on vents
October 5Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
168,512 cases 5,396 deaths
547 in hosp 71 on vents
October 6Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
169,044 cases 5,402 deaths
567 in hosp 71 on vents
October 7Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
170,097 cases 5,411 deaths
552 in hosp 78 on vents
October 8Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
170,621 cases 5,416 deaths
564 in hosp 79 on vents
October 9Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
170,878 cases 5,442 deaths
582 in hosp 78 on vents
More or less landed on a plateau...but this past week has shown a slow, steady trending up in the numbers, Oct 1 thru Oct 9. I suppose it's the change in the weather, folks at gatherings like hunting camps, and a few festivals across the state. Just can't seem to get on an improving trend and ride this sucker down to -->
0 in hosp 0 on vents.
Not when the testing numbers are so inconsistent. False positives are still the norm.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
No they aren’t. PCR tests are far more likely to be a false negative than a false positive.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Of course. That's why you hear so much about them...Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I have. You haven’t?Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Heard lots of false positives from people I actually know. Not a single false negative from ANYBODY.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I haven't either, but then, if someone got a negative result back they are most likely to accept that and just go on with their day. They would probably never, ever know they were actually positive. Unless they started exhibiting symptoms.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Antibody tests or PCR?Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
I know plenty of false negatives. My wife deals with them weekly. People directly exposed (same household) as COVID positives, lose taste/smell and fever and test comes back negative. She still treats them as presumed positive for purposes of not coming back to work.
Antibody tests are a whole different thing, but those tests are not really used for screening or diagnostic.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Are you sure you just don’t know plenty of asymptomatic Covids? How would you know they don’t have COVID?
October 12Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
172,059 cases 5,462 deaths
563 in hosp 71 on vents
October 13Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
172,801 cases 5,486 deaths
573 in hosp 68 on vents
October 14Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
173,121 cases 5,495 deaths
582 in hosp 64 on vents
Recovery rate is 93.5%
Do you have age of the people who aren’t recovering?
Average age is approximately 75. Life expectancy in Louisiana is approximately 76. Almost all of those dying WITH china virus in Louisiana have underlying conditions.Quote:
Originally Posted by tech70