There wasn’t 120% voter turnout because the base number in that misleading stat doesn’t include those that registered in the month before the election in a state that allows SAME DAY voter registration.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
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There wasn’t 120% voter turnout because the base number in that misleading stat doesn’t include those that registered in the month before the election in a state that allows SAME DAY voter registration.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
But the most polarizing president in the past 100 years waging culture wars against science during a pandemic will motivate people to vote. It did on both sides.
Exactly!Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
It’s the leftist Regressives that ignore real science and make up false lies and bogus data to confirm their ridiculous political ideology.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Lol. Republicans are so dumb.
LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
https://www.streetroots.org/sites/de...sts-2020_1.jpg
Nothing to see here folks....:icon_roll: Why aren't people getting arrested?
Maricopa County Elections Officials DELETED ENTIRE DATABASE from Voting Machines
Maricopa County Elections Officials DELETED ENTIRE DATABASE from Voting Machines – Including “All Election Information” from Main Database — With Copy of Senate Letter
GP
That doesn’t mean what Gateway Pundit is trying to lead you to believe. Read the reporting and context more carefully.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Obviously fake news since cnn and msnbc haven’t said anything.
In my experience, the only reason to wipe systems clean is to hide something. In banking, if we couldn’t provide a clean trail of communication for why we made a decision, people got fired. Simple.
That isn’t what happened, but it is what GP wants you to believe happened. Read the article more carefully.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
Okay professor, I read it again. Says the same thing as the first time. Non compliance, refusal to provide passwords, and deletion of crucial information.
Crazy
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Originally Posted by techman05
There is also missing chain of custody issues in GA.. but there are those to say this is "no big deal".. Imagine if in a murder trial, evidence had no chain of custody for murder weapons, forensics etc.
Gateway Pundit is awfully far down the Y axis here. Certainly far enough to approach with a pretty good sized grain of salt.
https://www.adfontesmedia.com/static-mbc/
1. Who alleges something was deleted? andQuote:
Originally Posted by techman05
2. What precisely do they say was deleted?
Once you understand those two things, you will see how GP is misleading you with the headline and what Frisco posted.
Nothing fake other than truth denial from the loud left-wingnuts on this board.Quote:
Originally Posted by inudesu
Destruction of elections data required by law to be maintained is a criminal act, and given the current situation it reeks of a continuing coverup of criminal elections fraud.
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Originally Posted by inudesu
I meant that in general. I haven't looked at this situation at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
I'd still expect "contains misleading info" to apply, but even blind squirrels find nuts and all that. Every case certainly unique.
Oh yeah? What was deleted that law requires to be maintained?Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
I just find it very interesting that Democrats are trying very very hard to stop this audit from happening. If the audit turns up nothing, then an audit was done, nothing was found, proves that the election was done properly and we move on.. What is everyone so afraid of?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
All Maricopa County voting machines and ballots were under subpoena from the Arizona Senate. Deleting materials that have been subpoenaed is a criminal act.
You mean like wiped with a cloth, or smashed with a hammer?Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
When has deleting stuff that has been subpoenaed become a criminal act for dimocrats. Never has been before.
But it wasn’t done by a conservative or a white cop, so, never mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
Truth! Dimwitocraps can get away with anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow
The The Republicans have to make sure the democrats can't cheat in the 2022 and 2024 elections like they did in the 2020 election. The cheating in the 2020 election is going to be disastrous for our country. We're looking at double digit inflation like we saw under Jimmy Carter.
They don’t want you to keep getting snookered. You guys fall for the dumbest stuff. So easily misled. They have found no issues twice. So that already proves the election was done properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Yet you fell for the Mueller report, written by democrats and based on fabricated information.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
You’re not known as Gullible Goober for nothing.
Ironic. That is why you are Magoo.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
If anyone in this country is Magoo, it’s the guy pretending to be president right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
yeah right they could care less about republicans getting snookered.. I appreciate their concern.. rofl...Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
You clearly like getting snookered. You keep going to the same sources that snookered you before.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Who is it that's telling Biden he shouldn't be answering questions from the press? Pelosi?, Shumer?, Nadler?, Shiff? Rice?, Obama?, Michelle?, or maybe it's the janitor who sees how stupid he is?
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Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Ironic the man who believed Trump colluded with Russia... lol
13 May 2021Quote:
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AZ State Senate President Asks Maricopa County to Address Deleted Data Bases, Chain of Custody, Non-Compliance with Subpoenas
The president of the Arizona State Senate asked the chairman of the Maricopa Board of Supervisors in a letter on Tuesday to address “three serious issues that have arisen in the course of the Senate’s ongoing audit of the returns of the November 3, 2020 general election in Maricopa County. “
Arizona State Senate President Karen Fann identified those three issues in her letter to Maricopa County Supervisors Board Chairman Jack Sellers as: (1) ongoing non-compliance with legislative subpoenas, deleted data bases (2) chain of custody and ballot organization anomalies, and (3) deleted data bases.
As Breitbart News reported on December 16:
Arizona Senate Republicans on Tuesday issued subpoenas to the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors for a scanned ballot audit and ‘full forensic audit of ballot tabulation equipment, the software for that equipment and the election management system used in the 2020 general election.’
The audit of Maricopa County’s November 2020 election results began on April 23 and may continue into the summer.
“The first issue concerns Maricopa County’s apparent intent to renege on its previous commitment to comply fully with the legislative subpoenas issued on January 13, 2021, which, as you know, Judge Thomason found were valid and enforceable,” Fann wrote in Tuesday’s letter, adding:
To date, attorneys for Maricopa County have refused to produce virtual images of routers used in connection with the general election, relying on a conclusory and unsupported assertion that providing the routers would somehow “endanger the lives of law enforcement officers, their operations, or the protected health information and personal data of Maricopa County’s citizens.” . . .
Nevertheless, in an effort to resolve the dispute regarding production of the routers, we propose that agents of CyFIR, an experienced digital forensics firm and subcontractor of Cyber Ninjas, review virtual images of the relevant routers in Maricopa County facilities and in the presence of representatives of the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office.
Fann then addressed the second issue, chain of custody and ballot organization anomolies:
As the audit has progressed, the Senate’s contractors have become aware of apparent omissions, inconsistencies, and anomalies relating to Maricopa County’s handling, organization, and storage of ballots. We hope you can assist us in understanding these issues, including specifically the following:
The County has not provided any chain-of-custody documentation for the ballots. Does such documentation exist, and if so, will it be produced?
The bags in which the ballots were stored are not sealed, although the audit team has found at the bottom of many boxes cut seals of the type that would have sealed a ballot bag. Why were these seals placed at the bottom of the boxes?
Batches within a box are frequently separated by only a divider without any indication of the corresponding batch numbers. In some cases, the batch dividers are missing altogether. This lack of organization has significantly complicated and delayed the audit team’s ballot processing efforts. What are the County’s procedures for sorting, organizing, and packaging ballot batches?
Most of the ballot boxes were sealed merely with regular tape and not secured by any kind of tamper-evident seal. Is that the County’s customary practice for storing ballots?
The audit team has encountered a significant number of instances in which there is a disparity between the actual number of ballots contained in a batch and the total denoted on the pink report slip accompanying the batch. In most of these instances, the total on the pink report slip is greater than the number of ballots in the batch, although there are a few instances in which the total is lower. What are the reasons for these discrepancies?
Fann then addressed the issue of deleted data bases:
We have recently discovered that the entire “Database” directory from the D drive of the machine “EMSPrimary” has been deleted. This removes election related details that appear to have been covered by the subpoena.
In addition, the main database for the Election Management System (EMS) Software, “Results Tally and Reporting,” is not located anywhere on the EMSPrimary machine, even though all of the EMS Clients reference that machine as the location of the database. This suggests that the main database for all election related data for the November 2020 General Election has been removed.
Can you please advise as to why these folders were deleted, and whether there are any backups that may contain the deleted folders?
Fann closed by inviting Board Chair Sellers and appropriate Maricopa County employees to meet with her personally at a hearing room in the Arizona State Capital on Tuesday, May 18 to address these three serious issues.
You can read the complete letter here:
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ith-subpoenas/
When you begin to dig even slightly below the surface of that article, you realize it’s claims don’t hold up.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
And deletion of these pre-election test decks are part of the standard operating procedure.
See, in particular, section 4.3 of the Democracy Suite instruction manual:
https://www.eac.gov/sites/default/fi...procedures.pdf
Again, this is why folks were against a THIRD audit of Arizona, particularly by the hack bozos leading this one. The point of this audit is not to discover any actual irregularities but to spin up new conspiracy theories to keep the snookering alive.
DebunkedQuote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Deep State talking points all debunked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Maricopa County's Board of Supervisors -- four out of five of whom are Republicans -- met Monday to respond to Fann's allegations, with board members offering harsh condemnations of the GOP-led Senate.
Board Chairman Jack Sellers, a Republican, said the state Senate is running "a grift disguised as an audit."
"This board is done explaining anything to these people who are playing investigator with our constituents' ballots and equipment, paid for with real people's tax dollars. People's ballots and money are not make-believe," Sellers said. "It's time to be done with this craziness."
During the meeting, Richer repeated his response to Fann's claims.
"No files from the 2020 election have been deleted. We deleted zero -- zero files," he said.
The board voted unanimously to sign a letter detailing Richer's point-by-point responses to Fann's claims, and Sellers said they would not be participating further in the audit.
Face it, Frisco. You got snookered again. That is the type of thing that happens when you read garbage websites and hang out with Aggies.
https://www.maricopa.gov/DocumentCen...t-Fann---FINAL
But are they totally sure there aren't hidden bamboo particles on the ballots that clearly show that they were all shipped from China? I mean, they haven't shown that Hugo Chavez's ghost didn't fill those ballots out, have they?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
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Originally Posted by Guisslapp
The latest audit is still ongoing.. I will wait until it is done..
That is the one the Republican board is responding to. It is a farse.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
They responded to a specific item that was brought up about deleted files. Not about the audit itself. Why are you so scared? So this audit is a farce, but democratic election officials boarding up windows during the election counting and kicking out observers is perfectly fine..Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
There has already been two real audits and they found no issues. This third “audit” is a fake non-transparent audit been run by a troll company funded in part by private funds. They have already shown what they are up to - creating new misinformation to stir up fake conspiracy theories.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
You already fell for one of them. That is what this is all about and why even Republicans are opposed to it. This election denialism does not make the Republican Party stronger. It makes it more irrelevant.
Why stop at 3?Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
I feel like we're missing a chance to hire an "audit firm" that's even more convinced going in about a conspiracy. My vote (see what I did there) is that regardless of what this report says, we go ahead and hire the pillow king to come and use his expertise to audit the audit of the audit of the audit of the vote that was certified by the experts.
And if he can't find something, we should have former president Trump come in behind him and count every ballot by hand (and maybe go door to door to verify each vote).
And if that doesn't work, the taxpayers of Arizona should probably hire that "expert" that can't get the right counties in the right states. He's got to be available, right?
Don't stop now - there are still bamboo particles to find!
100% correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
An endorsement that makes most people rethink what they just said.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
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Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Only if an endorsement from you Goosey.. who still clings to Russia collusion..
Jeffrey Epstein did not kill himself and the 2020 POTUS and both Georgia senate races were stolen. Period. These are facts and are not in dispute.
Was it lizard people or Hugo's ghost?Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
And more importantly, will the ultraviolet bamboo slivers tell the tale?
I tell you what, in 2022 everyone better wear their tinfoil hat when they vote or Bill Gate's chip (from the covid vaccine) will swap your vote just as soon as you pull the lever. It's true! Documentary* by a total expert coming soon.
*There may or may not be a lengthy legal disclaimer about how "facts" presented in the "documentary" are more like fairy tales invented from whole cloth and please don't sue the presenting "news" media outlet or the "expert" who made it all up.
They already know what happened- just don't want the sheep to find out how corrupt they are. I don't think the sheep care, and anyone that can think for themselves already knows they cheated. But hey, that bad man made mean tweets.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
The main difference between this audit that AZ is doing compared to ALL of the other audits done around the US is that they are actually looking at the ballots themselves to determine if they were fraudulent or not. Counting $10,000 over and over doesn't matter if you don't look to see if there are counterfeit bills in there. It is my understanding that all of the other audits just recounted the same mail in votes, not determining if they should have been counted in the first place. That is not an audit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cal&Ken
No. The real difference is WHO is doing the auditing and what their goal is. The Cyber Ninjas. A non-reputable outfit led by a CEO that is himself an election denier.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Things are getting interesting in the Windham, NH, audit now.
They have found tabulation machines that "reliably and repeatedly" are undercounting votes cast for Republican candidates in local races. And they are going to do an audit of the Senate and Governor races later this week.
BREAKING HUGE: Windham Audit Team Will Look at New Hampshire US Senate Race This Week -- After Finding Local GOP Candidates Consistently Shorted Votes
And look what is happening in Fayette County, PA, today.
Some Voting Machines In Fayette Co. Not Accepting Ballots – CBS Pittsburgh
"Chris Varney, Judge of Elections says they were initially under the impression that it was a problem with all ballots, but then determined it was only a problem with Republican ballots."
Wrong.. again.. and instead of putting up cardboard or paper to block the recount and audit efforts, they have 9 security cameras that anyone can view to see what is going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
And black lights! Don't forget the black lights!Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Huge, important distinction there between this one and the 2 prior ones. Can't find Chavez's fingerprints without black lights!
Wasting your time bringing the facts to these clowns. Goosey and I-nude-is-U are just libtard hacks. Pay them no mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Well-reasoned and factually based argument as always! Very convincing!Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
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Originally Posted by dawg80
I think the best evidence there was a lot of cheating going on in Pennsylvania was the truck load of ballots that were counted after 2 AM with no observers. Trump had a 400,000 vote lead before they started counting that truck load of ballots. The following morning the race was very close. There were also a lot of ballots counted in the day after they locked out the observers.
That has already been debunked.Quote:
Originally Posted by DONW
Have the pristine (unfolded) “mail in” ballots been debunked? Not being sarcastic.
Did you just make that one up?Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
NopeQuote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
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Some more things out of GA...
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Judge Amero granted the motion to unseal the ballots, but will only allow the Fulton County employees themselves to scan the ballots to a 600dpi uncompressed resolution, and have the VoterGA forensic experts present during the process.
Garland's people found HUGE discrepancies in the images provided to them...347 missing batches (100 ballots in a batch) and many batches scanned TWICE.
Math:
34,700 missing ballots.
We also know that some of the batches they have are duplicates. That means counted twice during the election count.
Fulton County attorneys pushed for a sampling of the ballots instead of access to all of the ballots. They particularly objected to access to physical ballots.
Fulton County attorneys also objected to expert witnesses testifying the number of ballot batches certified by Secretary of State Raffensperger in the previous ‘risk limiting audit’ were significantly different from the actual number of ballot image batches that were provided by state and county officials in court-ordered discovery in April.
Also the GA Sec of State stated that the public "has no right to audit the election results"... Literally a banana republic...
Both Senate seats and the POTUS election were stolen in Georgia. It's common knowledge, just ask anyone who lives there. It's become a joke, a sad, disturbing joke, but one nonetheless. Now, when someone is considered to be full of chit, the locals will say something..."ya mean like the recent election results?"
I asked people that live there and they disagree with you. They think you are the joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
You are so gullible. Everytime someone has alleged something like this, they have been proven a liar, yet you still fall for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
LOL! of course people in Georgia say, "dawg80 is a joke." Right. You have sunk into the bowels of delusionalism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Meantime, I converse with real people, and they KNOW the elections were stolen.
Says Mr. Russian Collusion :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I'm just providing information that is happening in Fulton County.. The Judge did grant the motion to unseal ballots.. that is not a lie.. I bet you also agree with GA SOS that the public has no right to audit election results..
The lie, this time, is about the missing ballots. The most recent last time it was about illegally deleted databases. Remember? You get snookered every day with the latest conspiracy theory.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Dude,, you were hook line and sinker for 4 years on Russia collusion.. Please...Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
No you didn’t! You’ve been debunked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
You just described yourself the last 4 years (actually way longer) my man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
The Democrats’ H.R.1 Would Permanently Rig Our Elections
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...our-elections/
You should read the Mueller report.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
And the latest information that put the nail in the coffin.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill...colluder%3famp
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Originally Posted by Guisslapp
https://www.npr.org/2019/03/24/70638...sian-collusion
NY Times Headline:
Mueller Finds No Trump-Russia Conspiracy, but Stops Short of Exonerating President on Obstruction
American Bar Association headline: Mueller finds no collusion with Russia,
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...report-1233771
Mueller finds no Trump-Russia conspiracy
NBC News:
(T)he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."Mueller finds no proof of Trump collusion with Russia; finds no proof of Trump collusion with Russia;
I'll take what the ABA says over 1 opinion report. NBC, NPR, NY TIMES.. were NOT fans of Trump and hated him as much as you did.. but at least they had to call this for what it was.. Just take your "L"
Being a democrat alters the brain.
The old "chicken and the egg" dilemma. Does being a dem alter the brain, or does it take an altered (i.e. demented) brain to become a dem?Quote:
Originally Posted by DONW
I’m thinking you should read “The Good News” Bible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Conspiracy and collusion are not the same. Collusion covers many things beyond a conspiracy, and is not necessarily a crime. It is conduct unfit for a president of the US and is impeachable conduct.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
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Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Ok genius... if Trump did this, and it is an impeachable offense.. why wasn't it listed in the first articles of Impeachment? Please answer that one??
You mean add it to the Ukraine impeachment? Because they decided it was more strategic to keep it focused for the citizens to follow. They had already heard about Russia collusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
The Republicans were never going to impeach Trump for anything. Like Trump said, he could shoot someone and he would still be adored. He correctly diagnosed the psychosis of his base.
Sorry but your argument is not about what I said.. If the "adults" who are in charge.. as you claim and you support.. are so smart.. the Democrats controlled the house.. The democrats write up the articles of impeachment.. Why didn't Nancy and Adam Schiff list that as one of the offenses?? If Trump was guilty as you said.. why didn't they list it in the impeachment?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
See my sentence that started with “Because...”Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
So you really have nothing except your L Just take it and move on.. You are wrong on this again..Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Maybe you missed it, but the citizens spoke and Trump lost. It worked.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Trying to change the subject.. you are wrong about the collusion.. admit it.. be a man..Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
You are the one that is wrong about that, and about everything else it seems.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Done trying to argue with a textbook narcissist. You have a very bad case of it.. I would suggest counseling..Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Lol. I guess that is easier than actually dealing with the fact that you are wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Btw, since I am generally willing to question any pre-conceptions, knowing that I can be wrong (which is a non-narcissistic quality), I just took a quick narcissism inventory quiz and scored 9 of 40, which is more than 50% below average. So, guess I am right...still not a narcissist.
You guys are just really wrong about too many things.
That wasn’t the issue my man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
So folded ballots can't be read correctly? Sounds like a recipe for disaster with widespread use of mail-in ballots. And makes a case for manual counting of all ballots.
Windham New Hampshire Auditors: "Fold Effect" Big Enough To Account For Discrepancies--Might Not Be All That Is Going On (thepalmierireport.com)
They should go door to door and ask each registered voter who they voted for.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
It's the only way.
Yes, in every state Biden supposedly won. And I bet, given a second chance, many who did actually vote for Biden would change their vote to Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by inudesu
If you keep sticking your crank out there, they will gladly keep yanking it.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg