Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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JuBru
Fiorina is growing on me. But the HP stuff is a huge red flag. The way she has talked about it is too similar, to me, to how Obama just "learned" something watching the news and blames everything on everyone else and never himself.
I like Kasich. But some of his answers at the debate threw me off.
Rubio is growing on me, too. Seems a bit dry and out of his element, though. Needs to get more authoritative and just better in general.
I like Carson, just don't think he's ready (experience, mainly) for POTUS.
Big NO to Cruz, Trump, Jindal, Walker, Huckabee, Santorum, Paul.
Christie had potential, but he's Trump-lite at this point. So no.
No opinion on Perry. He doesn't seem to understand why Texas did good under him and how to translate it to the U.S. *Edited to add it looks like
he might be prepping to drop already.
No opinion on Graham.
I'm kind of tired of lawyers, honestly.
No opinion on Pataki. Don't know him.
No opinion on Bush. Everything he's done has canceled out something else he's done, so far.
Rubio is both a lawyer and a career politician.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
Woof!
Rubio is both a lawyer and a career politician.
...and the most problematic for the democrats.
Love it or hate it, we're a soundbite culture now. To win, you have to give good speeches, answer questions succinctly and competently, and have a squeaky clean record. The RNC needs to make sure they don't give the media anymore ammo than they have to as the eventual nominee will be enemy no 1 of the mainstream media.
I think, if the republicans have a shot, it will be with someone like Rubio.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
Rubio is against abortion....even in the case of RAPE. If your sister, wife, girlfriend, etc were raped and became pregnant due to the RAPE....Rubio and Walker would both be against her having an abortion. Walker takes it a step further...he is against abortion even if having the baby would put the woman's life in danger!!!! Therefore, I have scratched them BOTH off the list of candidates I would consider as presidential material!!!!!
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
70TECHGRAD
Rubio is against abortion....even in the case of RAPE. If your sister, wife, girlfriend, etc were raped and became pregnant due to the RAPE....Rubio and Walker would both be against her having an abortion. Walker takes it a step further...he is against abortion even if having the baby would put the woman's life in danger!!!! Therefore, I have scratched them BOTH off the list of candidates I would consider as presidential material!!!!!
"Florida Sen. Marco Rubio says he opposes abortion in all instances -- but he'd support legislation that includes exceptions in cases such as rape, incest and when the life of the mother is threatened, and he has no problem with contraception."
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/09/politi...abortion-2016/
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
I have VERY strong opinions on abortion.
It is murder, plain and simple. That child, the result of rape or incest, is still a child, a human being, who had NOTHING to do with the circumstances that conceived him/her. That child is an innocent victim of a crime. Punish those who committed the crime, the rapist, for instance. Here's a suggestion. All of you that support murdering a child who was conceived in a rape or incest will put your name into a pool. Then when that child is aborted (murdered) we will randomly draw a name from that pool who also will be killed.
That seem harsh? Really? You mean as harsh as murdering as an innocent child, that kind of harsh?
x100
That child has no choice in how it was conceived. It's still a child either way, and it has no less rights because it was conceived in a criminal manner.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
70TECHGRAD
Rubio is against abortion....even in the case of RAPE. If your sister, wife, girlfriend, etc were raped and became pregnant due to the RAPE....Rubio and Walker would both be against her having an abortion. Walker takes it a step further...he is against abortion even if having the baby would put the woman's life in danger!!!! Therefore, I have scratched them BOTH off the list of candidates I would consider as presidential material!!!!!
Ben Carson had the best response to the "even if the mother's life is in danger" question when he explained that this is very rare due to the advances in modern medicine. I bet there are more cases dealing with rape, but I bet that's rare too. The vast majority of abortions are for birth control.
Why do we decide presidents based on their stance on abortion? If he were a king who could make laws unilaterally, it would matter, but he's just a president who signs/vetos Congress's bills. I can't see anyone trying to write an Executive Order to end abortions.
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I would love to see the question flipped on the Democrats.... "Do you believe in abortion even knowing that it was advocated by a Progressive, KKK-sympathizer who just wanted to keep the minority population low?"
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
70TECHGRAD
Rubio is against abortion....even in the case of RAPE. If your sister, wife, girlfriend, etc were raped and became pregnant due to the RAPE....Rubio and Walker would both be against her having an abortion. Walker takes it a step further...he is against abortion even if having the baby would put the woman's life in danger!!!! Therefore, I have scratched them BOTH off the list of candidates I would consider as presidential material!!!!!
Why do you think abortion is wrong?
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
70TECHGRAD
Rubio is against abortion....even in the case of RAPE. If your sister, wife, girlfriend, etc were raped and became pregnant due to the RAPE....Rubio and Walker would both be against her having an abortion. Walker takes it a step further...he is against abortion even if having the baby would put the woman's life in danger!!!! Therefore, I have scratched them BOTH off the list of candidates I would consider as presidential material!!!!!
One of those hated lawyers responding here, so take it with a grain of salt.
If you are for exceptions, you might as well say you are pro-choice. Exceptions are giant loop-holes. Why? Who determines that an exception is present. The woman who wants to have an abortion and the Doctor who is paid to perform the abortion.
That combo will find an exception every time. Where do you think "partial birth" abortions come from? They occur in the last tri-mester as a result of an exception to the norm.
I am not sure that it would be any better if judicial approval was required. The same people would just shop for a pro-choice judge that would rubber-stamp the exception... even in conservative states like Louisiana. It happens all the time here already, particularly when a juvenile is involved. They go to juvenile court judges, without the requirement of parental notification and out of the public eye, in the bigger cities with more liberal judges and where the abortion provider resides. Judicial approval almost always happens.
In my opinion, anyone stating that they are pro-life but support abortion exceptions is naive as to how the system operates.
Again, we aren't talking about getting approval from your local conservative judge. The approval is sought where the providers operate. In the case of Louisiana, think Shreveport, Baton Rouge and New Orleans.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
T1
I would love to see the question flipped on the Democrats.... "Do you believe in abortion even knowing that it was advocated by a Progressive, KKK-sympathizer who just wanted to keep the minority population low?"
Yeppers!
Dr. Ben Carson is 100% correct!
BEN CARSON: PLANNED PARENTHOOD CLINICS PUT IN BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS TO ‘CONTROL THAT POPULATION’
Wednesday on Fox News Channel’s “Your World,” former Johns Hopkins neurosurgeon Dr. Ben Carson, a candidate for the 2016 Republican nomination, sounded off on Planned Parenthood, as the so-called women’s health organization has been under fire in recent weeks for a series of videos suggesting they were open to selling aborted fetal tissue for profit.
Carson referred to the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger and her position on eugenics, particularly as it pertained to blacks, which he said may not allow for him to be objective when it comes to Planned Parenthood.
“Well, maybe I’m not objective when it comes to Planned Parenthood. But you know, I know who Margaret Sanger is, and I know that she believed in eugenics, and that she was not particularly enamored with black people,” Carson said. “And one of the reasons that you find most of their clinics in black neighborhoods is so that you can find way to control that population. And I think people should go back and read about Margaret Sanger, who founded this place — a woman who Hillary Clinton by the say says she admires. Look and see what many people in Nazi Germany thought about her.”
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/...at-population/
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Dowty
x100
That child has no choice in how it was conceived. It's still a child either way, and it has no less rights because it was conceived in a criminal manner.
"Sorry, your father committed a crime, so we're going to kill you."
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Blue Dawg
"Sorry, your father committed a crime, so we're going to kill you."
Sounds like ISIS.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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johnnylightnin
Why do you think abortion is wrong?
I don't think abortion is wrong. I am prochoice!
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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TYLERTECHSAS
Sounds like ISIS.
Hired baby murderers aren't much different than black robed jihadists. One acts in the name of religion, the other for profit.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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70TECHGRAD
I don't think abortion is wrong. I am prochoice!
Then Trump, Christie, or Pataki are your choices.
