Presidential Election 2020

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Originally Posted by dawg80

Oh! and again....obummer wrecked our military by basically defunding it. We all know that a large part of the national budget goes to the military, and YES! Trump has spent plenty rebuilding the military and has taxed the deficit and debt in doing so. The national debt is a problem that needs addressing, granted. But! obummer increased the debt more than ALL previous presidents combined. He inherited an $8 trillion debt and left it at $19 trillion after 8 years. He did not spend much on the military...so where did that $11 trillion go? Rebuilding infrastructure, roads and bridges? No, not really. Improving public education? Definitely not! So...where did it go? Buehler? Anyone?

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Ineffective social programs perhaps.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

Lol. Trump always puts himself above America. If you vote for Trump you support Trump, not America.

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Nonsense

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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

How could this possibly be news? Yes, Goldberg is reporting what someone told him. Goldberg NEVER claims to have firsthand knowledge of the events. How could anyone who knows what a reporter is or does not know this? Even if it wasn't anonymous, this would still be true.

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Then he certainly should not have had such claims printed. Wouldn't you agree?

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Originally Posted by FriscoDog

You did.. you said that they were just a bunch of crazy kids and that what they were doing was harmless. You were getting play by plays from your niece who lived there. I'm sure there are other posters on here who can verify my claims.

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Support of Dems equates to support of Antifa, et al. Anti American is what the Dem Party has become. The Party of anarchy.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

That isn’t the same thing as saying that I support them. I was not getting overly wound up over it when the right wing media was in hysterics 24-7 over it. Foxnews was even generating fake photos about what was going on. 99% of it was harmless hippy/hipster goofiness.

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Your opinion or can you prove your claim to be fact?

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Originally Posted by stodgdog

Your opinion or can you prove your claim to be fact?

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Proven fact, Jack.

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Yes! it's true, all damage and looting done by BLM and Antifa is faked. There is ZERO damage in Portland, Seattle, wherever! Nothing has been happening...nothing at all. It's that movie special effects stuff...CGI.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

Yes! it's true, all damage and looting done by BLM and Antifa is faked. There is ZERO damage in Portland, Seattle, wherever! Nothing has been happening...nothing at all. It's that movie special effects stuff...CGI.

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In other news, the Portland mayor isn't really moving because of the riots either. And the Michigan governor (who is against walls) is building an electric fence around HER house to protect her against the BLM IDIOTS.

Oh wait....how will the morons explain that one away?

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Originally Posted by dawg80

Yes! it's true, all damage and looting done by BLM and Antifa is faked. There is ZERO damage in Portland, Seattle, wherever! Nothing has been happening...nothing at all. It's that movie special effects stuff...CGI.

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I never realized TDS and syphillis were so similar. Left untreated they both can cause serious brain damage. Goober is living proof.

Welp Gov Newsome, Biden, Obama, have all blamed the hurricanes and wildfires on.... wait for it.. climate change..

For a political party who claims to be all about science, they do not follow recommended science. California has banned any type of underbrush or forest management for decades.. so when you allow all of the underbrush to grow untouched, you have massive amounts of fuel for wildfires. My brother in law is a forrester (Tech Grad), has said their policies are the result of massive wildfires. He also said, it you noticed, you rarely see those types of fires in other parts of the country. Even believing in climate change, has no bearing on the lack of forest management.

Can’t really compare the forests of the Sierras to other forests. No other forests deal with the strong dry Santa Ana winds. Mix that with higher temperatures and less snow to keep things wet with runoff this time of year and you have a recipe for disaster.

As far as forest clearing... well, 60 percent of their forests are on federal lands managed by the USDA Forest service that is ultimately accountable to.....the one and only Donald Trump.

And can you imagine the outcry if the one and only Donald Trump ordered all those USDA forests clearcut! I for one would join in the chorus of saying, that ain't a good idea, but probably not for the same reasons the lefty wackos would be screaming. Of course, since we have to play the same old tired...WHAT A SHOCK!!!...let's blame President Trump :shocked2: it should be pointed out that the fire danger out west, and specifically in California, is a direct result of years, decades really, of mismanagement. I worked out west, I am a professional forester by training and trade, and I can tell anyone willing to listen, it is just plain STUPID out there! And it's been plain stupid dating back to the mid-70's for sure, and prior to that, although my personal experiences only date back to 1977.

But yeah, it's all Trump's fault. Just STFU Goosey. You are boring.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

Can’t really compare the forests of the Sierras to other forests. No other forests deal with the strong dry Santa Ana winds. Mix that with higher temperatures and less snow to keep things wet with runoff this time of year and you have a recipe for disaster.

As far as forest clearing... well, 60 percent of their forests are on federal lands managed by the USDA Forest service that is ultimately accountable to.....the one and only Donald Trump.

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I never said that there wouldn't be forest fires, the problem is how bad they are.. and that is due to the lack of forest management.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

And can you imagine the outcry if the one and only Donald Trump ordered all those USDA forests clearcut! I for one would join in the chorus of saying, that ain't a good idea, but probably not for the same reasons the lefty wackos would be screaming. Of course, since we have to play the same old tired...WHAT A SHOCK!!!...let's blame President Trump :shocked2: it should be pointed out that the fire danger out west, and specifically in California, is a direct result of years, decades really, of mismanagement. I worked out west, I am a professional forester by training and trade, and I can tell anyone willing to listen, it is just plain STUPID out there! And it's been plain stupid dating back to the mid-70's for sure, and prior to that, although my personal experiences only date back to 1977.

But yeah, it's all Trump's fault. Just STFU Goosey. You are boring.

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Yet now you expect California to manage forests on federal lands. You must have slept through your forestry classes.

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Originally Posted by FriscoDog

I never said that there wouldn't be forest fires, the problem is how bad they are.. and that is due to the lack of forest management.

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No it isn’t. It is due to how dry it is and how strong the winds are. Management is an aggravating factor, but it is not the major one. This isn’t like your Louisiana forests.