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Yeah, because all the political delegates for 187 countries want to do is sit on their ass at a laptop screen for 2 straight weeks. And can you imagine how many people wont even be paying attention, and will just be looking at porn? for a meeting of this magnitude, an in-person event is the only way.Quote:
Originally Posted by randerizer
Well, I get your point, but it sounds awfully hypocritical that political delegates don't have to change the way they operate, but during the conference they will be claiming that the world MUST change the way it operates.Quote:
Originally Posted by daybreaker2
The other side to the story is that it would get EVEN MORE PUB if they were to do it over something like secondlife and find a way to open up parts of the conference to non-politicians (in a controlled manner).
You sound like Al Gore's excuse-maker.Quote:
Originally Posted by daybreaker2
so why not hold the conference in germany, where most of the delegates can ride a trane? there are plenty of ways to do it that save money and carbon emissions, but they don't involve an exotic tropical island. of course, preferable to all of this would be to just scrap the whole manbearpig bit and focus on more important environmental/energy issues.
and the other thing is the carbon offset crap. even if the offsets weren't bogus, it's still garbage. if they really cared, they would buy the carbon offsets AND reduce their own emissions, instead of deciding that they can live irresponsibly just because they can afford to be "carbon neutral."
I agree with that 100%. I've always been against carbon credits as doing absolutely nothing to fix the problem and just providing a way for companies to skirt the law without having to do anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by arkansasbob
It is not a problem.
Yeah, just because we cant immediately see it happening right now, despite the fact it's a long process that will affect future generations more than us, means it must not be happening, right? And even it will only affect people in 50 years, **** those guys right? Because the only people who matter is us. Because we should never think of the consequences of our actions, only how things immediately benefit us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
This issue became politicized well before the science ever got very well developed on it. I don't understand why the liberals have married themselves to this issue. I guess they cannot control their desire to regulate everything.
There is ZERO credible evidence to link humans to global warming.Quote:
Originally Posted by daybreaker2
Also, as a matter of philosophy, I'd like to point out that we can owe no obligation to future (unconceived) individuals. So I would say that, yes, as a matter of philosophy, the only people that matter are us, because we are the only persons that we can identify. :icon_wink:
Especially since changing the course of conduct in an effort to preserve specific things for "future generations" kills the individuals that would have existed had the course of conduct not be changed. You know...when a butterfly flaps its wings... :icon_wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by randerizer
but the future is going to be brighter because some of the gw believers are sterilizing themselves. That butterfly flaps its wings enough, there are significantly fewer people they can indoctrinate.
^ So much for picking the fight on my terms. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by randerizer
the only way to fight GW with what the GW community wants is to slow down the world economy and everything associated with it... basically to revert most, but not all, technology, and thought, back to the 1800's and before.
ehh?Quote:
Originally Posted by randerizer
Was hoping to draw in daybreaker, salty, etc. But they tend to stay away unless they are making a "see, global warming is happening" kind of response.Quote:
Originally Posted by atobulldog