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Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???
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Guisslapp
First, it actually was delayed - it didn’t get to Ukraine as scheduled. You are falling for another Trump lie.
Second, it only went out when it did because a whistleblower complaint was filed and Trump got caught. That doesn’t excuse his abuse of power.
Doesn't matter any more.
Trump Acquitted!
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Guisslapp
Is it just a coincidence that the aid was released (after being delayed for months) within two days of the House Intel committee being notified of the whistleblower complaint?
Doesn't matter any more.
Trump Acquitted!
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Guisslapp
The difference is that the Dems are on the side of the facts and the Constitution.
No they weren't!
But it doesn't matter any more.
Trump Acquitted!
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It does matter, because now it is time to hold the Republicans accountable for not upholding their duty.
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Guisslapp
It does matter, because now it is time to hold the Republicans accountable for not upholding their duty.
We are waiting for the crazy arse and hater libs to try impeachment again! Please!!!
But it doesn't matter any more.
Trump Acquitted!
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A senator said on Hannity tonight that the Senate had acquired Hunter Biden's banking records.
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DONW
A senator said on Hannity tonight that the Senate had acquired Hunter Biden's banking records.
So?
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Guisslapp
It does matter, because now it is time to hold the Republicans accountable for not upholding their duty.
That is your opinion counselor, they did their duty. You are an attorney. How do you reconcile when things do not go the way you expect in court? Juries and judges daily make renderings that may or may not be what you personally believe is what the outcome should be, but that is our legal system. Many believe that the House Managers did not prove their case. You believe that anyone who doesn't think or come to the same conclusion you do means that they are somehow not as smart.
Example: You have made comments early on in Trumps admin that he had put in place a Muslim ban, which was not true. A judge, placed an injunction and tried to stop the ban. USSC ruled in favor of Trump. How do you reconcile this? Are the justices just stupid or partisan unable to make a fair decision based upon legal precedence and merits of the case brought before the court? I personally think Schiff, Pelosi and many other democrats have weaponized the impeachment process which was not the intention of the founding fathers. As in most "new" breaks from tradition usually the democrats are the ones who do it, such as Harry Reid's use of nuclear option in Senate. Democrats do this and then cry foul when it is used against them. Do not get upset if this ever gets used against a democratic POTUS.
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Re: Why no Trump impeachment thread on Paw-Litics???
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FriscoDog
That is your opinion counselor, they did their duty. You are an attorney. How do you reconcile when things do not go the way you expect in court? Juries and judges daily make renderings that may or may not be what you personally believe is what the outcome should be, but that is our legal system. Many believe that the House Managers did not prove their case. You believe that anyone who doesn't think or come to the same conclusion you do means that they are somehow not as smart.
Example: You have made comments early on in Trumps admin that he had put in place a Muslim ban, which was not true. A judge, placed an injunction and tried to stop the ban. USSC ruled in favor of Trump. How do you reconcile this? Are the justices just stupid or partisan unable to make a fair decision based upon legal precedence and merits of the case brought before the court? I personally think Schiff, Pelosi and many other democrats have weaponized the impeachment process which was not the intention of the founding fathers. As in most "new" breaks from tradition usually the democrats are the ones who do it, such as Harry Reid's use of nuclear option in Senate. Democrats do this and then cry foul when it is used against them. Do not get upset if this ever gets used against a democratic POTUS.
The Supreme Court doesn’t always get it right. How does the minority on a Supreme Court decision reconcile the issue when they write a minority opinion saying the majority got it wrong?
By the way, it was the third Muslim ban that the majority upheld. The Trump administration bailed on its first two attempts, which may not have gotten approval from a majority.
Normally, in a trial, if a juror in voire dire says “I won’t be a fair juror”, they are immediately stricken for cause. So this “jury” situation is entirely unique.
These Republican Senators, at least most of them, are being disingenuous. Never before in the history of impeachment trials have all witnesses been excluded. They voted as a coordinated block hoping to make their job as jurors easier.
There is no doubt that Trump did what was alleged. The fact that many Republicans that voted to block witnesses is at least a tacit acknowledgement that whatever Bolton said wouldn’t matter. To conclude that means that you would have to first assume that he would say that “Trump told me that he held up the aid and the meeting for a personal political favor.”
A significant number of Republicans took the position that he did what they said he did, it is not impeachable. Those that took that position, knew they were taking an extreme position that only Dershowitz 2.0 agrees with (Dershowitz 1.0 didn’t). He gave them political cover to say what they said, but most of those Senators are lawyers and recognize that it is an inane legal argument.
In the end, everyone knows these Republican senators were going to be in lockstep with Trump no matter what. They know that their Republican base lives in the same alternate reality, low information, FoxNews universe that will not only excuse their conduct but will celebrate it.
And that is what the problem is. Folks are too happy to live in their information comfort zones, which has led to the complete fragmentation of news reporting. Those that stay in their information comfort zones live in an entirely different world than those that live outside of it. If you aren’t constantly challenging your worldview with information coming from outside your favorite channels, then this divide will only grow.
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Meanwhile Slick Willy sold missile guidance technology to the Chicoms who also funneled money to his 1996 campaign thru Chinese monks.
obummer sold machineguns to the Mexican drug cartels to hopefully cause mass killings in the US i.e. dead Americans, so the country would be outraged and demand extreme gun control.
Krooked Killary paid for a fake dossier to be used as a political weapon.
Etc....
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dawg80
Meanwhile Slick Willy sold missile guidance technology to the Chicoms who also funneled money to his 1996 campaign thru Chinese monks.
obummer sold machineguns to the Mexican drug cartels to hopefully cause mass killings in the US i.e. dead Americans, so the country would be outraged and demand extreme gun control.
Krooked Killary paid for a fake dossier to be used as a political weapon.
Etc....
You left out Reagan. Why? Remember, he sold weapons to Iran to secretly fund Socialist Contras in Nicaragua.
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Guisslapp
You left out Reagan. Why? Remember, he sold weapons to Iran to secretly fund Socialist Contras in Nicaragua.
Wrong! that has all been debunked. Besides, he was alleged to have sold weapons to the anti-commies in Nicaragua. If you're gonna post lies, at least get your lies right.
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dawg80
Wrong! that has all been debunked. Besides, he was alleged to have sold weapons to the anti-commies in Nicaragua. If you're gonna post lies, at least get your lies right.
Debunked where?
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So, if the Supreme Court can get things wrong, conservatives are completely justified in our opposition to Roe v Wade and that it was unconstitutional.
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So, if the Supreme Court can get things wrong, conservatives are completely justified in our opposition to Roe v Wade and that it was unconstitutional.
What is your constitutional objection to Roe v Wade? Have you read the opinion?
Have you thought about the implications of abandoning the principle of stare decisis?
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Guisslapp
It does matter, because now it is time to hold the Republicans accountable for not upholding their duty.
The republicans did their duty just fine, the house failed miserably, but the good news is in less than a year the country gets to voice their opinion on who did their job. We will see what the country thinks.
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Well... so much for plan B. or is it C, or D, or E. maybe they can go bring back Avenetti and Stormy Daniels..:laugh:
Appeals court throws out Democrats' 'emoluments' lawsuit over Trump businesses
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The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit said a group of more than 200 Democratic lawmakers lacked legal "standing" to bring the case in the first place.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ses/ar-BBZLaTF
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It will be the socialist Dems ‘Plan F’ for Freaking Farce or maybe they moved down to their Plan I for the ‘Ignorant and Insane’.
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It will be the socialist Dems ‘Plan F’ for Freaking Farce or maybe they moved down to their Plan I for the ‘Ignorant and Insane’.
Schiff: Preparations A through G were a complete failure. But now, ladies and gentlemen, we finally have a working plan, which we shall call... Preparation H!!
Nadler: I love your plan
Pelosi: It's a really good plan
Schiff: Yes Nancy, on the whole, I think preparation H feels good.
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Trump is the type of “leader” that whistleblower protections were designed for.
Do your duty and tell the truth, get fired. Punishing people that testify.
This is the behavior of a despot. But not surprising. We keep reaching new lows under this president.
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We will keep reaching new lows under this president! Like: all time lows in unemployment, all time lows in illegals crossing the border, all time lows in opiode deaths, all time lows in bad trade deals, all time lows trade deficits, all time lows in people on welfare & food stamps, and many others. YES BABY!
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We will keep reaching new lows under this president! Like: all time lows in unemployment, all time lows in illegals crossing the border, all time lows in opiode deaths, all time lows in bad trade deals, all time lows trade deficits, all time lows in people on welfare & food stamps, and many others. YES BABY!
Don’t forget all time lows on the federal balance sheet. We are getting deeper and deeper into the negatives.
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Guisslapp
Don’t forget all time lows on the federal balance sheet. We are getting deeper and deeper into the negatives.
Yes, the national debt is a problem that needs resolving. Only a combination of spending cuts, economic growth, increased revenues to the treasury, and more spending cuts will begin to knock a dent in it. That is why President Trump needs a true conservative Congress to work with and a contained Judiciary to enact the measures necessary to get us on the path to truly reducing the debt. He has labored, really on his own, fighting the good fight, but The Swamp, which includes liberal judges, have fought him every step.
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Guisslapp
Trump is the type of “leader” that whistleblower protections were designed for.
Do your duty and tell the truth, get fired. Punishing people that testify.
This is the behavior of a despot. But not surprising. We keep reaching new lows under this president.
Yeah, maybe if it is legit. It this case a plant who was a hard core Trump hater who gave out second (maybe third) hand information. THATS why they didn't want him interviewed, not because of some fake protection issue.
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PawDawg
Yeah, maybe if it is legit. It this case a plant who was a hard core Trump hater who gave out second (maybe third) hand information. THATS why they didn't want him interviewed, not because of some fake protection issue.
The info the whistleblower gave out was corroborated.
But I was actually referring to Trump’s vindictiveness for getting rid of Vindman (and his brother).
Americans used to believe in protecting witnesses and whistleblowers (and their families), but some Republicans have lost their way.
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Btw, this is also evidence why Zelenskyy knew he could not admit to the fact that his administration felt pressure to make an announcement. Everyone knows Trump believes in payback.
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Guisslapp
The info the whistleblower gave out was corroborated.
But I was actually referring to Trump’s vindictiveness for getting rid of Vindman (and his brother).
Americans used to believe in protecting witnesses and whistleblowers (and their families), but some Republicans have lost their way.
All bogus and a Dem political move 100% as well as 100% scam on the socialist side.
TRUMP ACQUITTED!
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TYLERTECHSAS
All bogus and a Dem political move 100% as well as 100% scam on the socialist side.
TRUMP ACQUITTED!
Alright, if you want to roll around in Trump’s feces and smear it on everything...
This is all a bit too disgusting for me, so I will leave this filth pile with you.
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Guisslapp
Alright, if you want to roll around in Trump’s feces and smear it on everything...
This is all a bit too disgusting for me, so I will leave this filth pile with you.
No you won't. Your TDS controls you, so you'll stay right here posting your delusional nonsense as always.
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Guisslapp
The info the whistleblower gave out was corroborated.
But I was actually referring to Trump’s vindictiveness for getting rid of Vindman (and his brother).
Americans used to believe in protecting witnesses and whistleblowers (and their families), but some Republicans have lost their way.
Vindman was extremely full of himself. I you look at the videos he was so good that Ukraine wanted him as their minister of defense. What Vindman and other bureaucrats do not understand and apparently haven't in many years, is that they do not set policy. These people are there to serve at the pleasure of the president. The POTUS sets policy and they are there to execute it, period. That's why the POTUS is CEO of executive branch.
Vindman is still with the Army, just reassigned. He still gets the same paycheck he got before. and will go to war college in summer. As far as the former ambassador, there is evidence that she was undermining Trumps policy in Ukraine, you would do the same thing if a legal secretary took to social media or made statements to your competitors in your negotiations to undermine your position.
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Hunter Biden's partner, Devon Archer, convicted of fraud. https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr...ore-60-million
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Guisslapp
Alright, if you want to roll around in Trump’s feces and smear it on everything...
This is all a bit too disgusting for me, so I will leave this filth pile with you.
What's really disgusting is Joe Biden selling our country out to a foreign country so his son can get rich. I believe Durham's investigation is going to put Hunter in prison. I'm looking forward to seeing him being questioned by the senate.
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dawg80
No you won't. Your TDS controls you, so you'll stay right here posting your delusional nonsense as always.
I hope you’re right. Otherwise I’m going to miss my daily comic relief.
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Well of course they will. That's the only election agenda and talking points their IQ can come up with that continues to hurt and divide America. Not to mention waste our tax dollars continuing to be a do nothing Dem. Congress. They are consistently constant sore whiners and losers which is totally explained by the mental illness of themselves and so many of their enabled and "free handout" voting base.
Democrats now insist they'll investigate president's pardons
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100% truth as has been discussed on the Kung Flu threads. But this sure doesn't give the Bush and Obama/Biden administrations any excuses; especially after 9-11 and the ISIS/terrorist threats and H1N1 virus etc..on the USA.
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:laugh: Slippery Schiff the Snake knows he's going to jail when Trump is elected for four more years in November.
Dem blasted after calling for 9/11-style commission on virus response
https://a57.foxnews.com/cf-images.us....jpg?tl=1&ve=1SCHIFF 'STUNT'