Democrat voter fraud is on!

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Some more things out of GA...

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Judge Amero granted the motion to unseal the ballots, but will only allow the Fulton County employees themselves to scan the ballots to a 600dpi uncompressed resolution, and have the VoterGA forensic experts present during the process.

Garland's people found HUGE discrepancies in the images provided to them...347 missing batches (100 ballots in a batch) and many batches scanned TWICE.

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Math:

34,700 missing ballots.

We also know that some of the batches they have are duplicates. That means counted twice during the election count.

Fulton County attorneys pushed for a sampling of the ballots instead of access to all of the ballots. They particularly objected to access to physical ballots.

Fulton County attorneys also objected to expert witnesses testifying the number of ballot batches certified by Secretary of State Raffensperger in the previous ‘risk limiting audit’ were significantly different from the actual number of ballot image batches that were provided by state and county officials in court-ordered discovery in April.




Also the GA Sec of State stated that the public "has no right to audit the election results"... Literally a banana republic...

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There are mail-in ballots that will be determined to be counterfeit with either no folds or exactly identical bubble marks that were not manually made with a pen or pencil (machine-marked). Ballots and envelopes have been impounded, and there has to be an envelope for each ballot in order for it to be legally counted.

Not even including the presidential election, the Perdue-Ossoff Senate race, at least one U.S. House race, and several Georgia House races could end up being decertified from this investigation. And that is just the tip of the iceberg.

And for those who doubt this, try explaining this one...
There is apparently a batch of 950 military ballots that has been examined. The vote count in that batch was Biden 950 Trump 0. That by itself should be a statistical impossibility. But for those who poo-poo that, try this. The ballot serial numbers of that batch were in consecutive order. If those ballots were randomly sent in and randomly received, they could not possibly be consecutively numbered. That screams of fraudulent ballot creation or a fraudulent ballot duplication process.

Politico is in full meltdown mode today with its hit piece. Those left-wingnut hacks are either afraid of what they don't know, or more likely they are afraid of what they know.

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There are mail-in ballots that will be determined to be counterfeit with either no folds or exactly identical bubble marks that were not manually made with a pen or pencil (machine-marked). Ballots and envelopes have been impounded, and there has to be an envelope for each ballot in order for it to be legally counted.

Not even including the presidential election, the Perdue-Ossoff Senate race, at least one U.S. House race, and several Georgia House races could end up being decertified from this investigation. And that is just the tip of the iceberg.

And for those who doubt this, try explaining this one...
There is apparently a batch of 950 military ballots that has been examined. The vote count in that batch was Biden 950 Trump 0. That by itself should be a statistical impossibility. But for those who poo-poo that, try this. The ballot serial numbers of that batch were in consecutive order. If those ballots were randomly sent in and randomly received, they could not possibly be consecutively numbered. That screams of fraudulent ballot creation.

Politico is in full meltdown mode today with its hit piece. Those left-wingnut hacks are either afraid of what they don't know, or more likely they are afraid of what they know.

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You are getting your crank yanked.

This is what I was referring to that Goosey already accused me of making up. This is real, I don’t care how much someone wants to doubt it.

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This is what I was referring to that Goosey already accused me of making up. This is real, I don’t care how much someone wants to doubt it.

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And your source is?

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And your source is?

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The truth...

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If you keep sticking your crank out there, they will gladly keep yanking it.

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This idiot coach needs to be yanked out of the nba .
And they wonder why the nba audience and pro sports in general is dying.

Published 4 hours ago

76ers' Doc Rivers on reported attendance numbers: 'I think we're counting like the Republicans'.
Rivers said it felt like 30,000 people packed the Wells Fargo Center for the game.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/76ers...ndance-numbers

If there had been a Biden campaign crowd there you could have sprayed the stands with machinegun fire...and not hit anyone.

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If there had been a Biden campaign crowd there you could have sprayed the stands with machinegun fire...and not hit anyone.

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That is Biden supporters took the pandemic seriously.

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That is Biden supporters took the pandemic seriously.

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Those are the same Karens that still think the China virus jumped from a bat in a remote area of China to a wet market in an area hundreds of miles away (where that bat was not being sold), that Trump conspired with the Kremlin to win the election against Hillary because a serial-liar named Schiff told them so, that whatever Fauci says is gold even though he admits to doing things that don't have any benefit for the purpose of theater, that defunding the police will decrease violence, and that a senile old man named Biden won the election with more votes than Obama ever got.

Biden supporters are a tremendously stupid lot.

At least some of them are taking the Trump vaccine.

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Those are the same Karens that still think the China virus jumped from a bat in a remote area of China to a wet market in an area hundreds of miles away (where that bat was not being sold), that Trump conspired with the Kremlin to win the election against Hillary because a serial-liar named Schiff told them so, that whatever Fauci says is gold even though he admits to doing things that don't have any benefit for the purpose of theater, that defunding the police will decrease violence, and that a senile old man named Biden won the election with more votes than Obama ever got.

Biden supporters are a tremendously stupid lot.

At least some of them are taking the Trump vaccine.

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Top 20 vaccination rate states voted Biden. Bottom 10 Trump.

Biden supporters act like adults. Trump supporters act like adolescents.

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Biden supporters act like adults.

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The people of Antifa, BLM, and those who won't go back to work because they make more money staying home.

All the above and the elite thinking leftists like you.

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The people of Antifa, BLM, and those who won't go back to work because they make more money staying home.

All the above and the elite thinking leftists like you.

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You guys have already made it clear that Antifa doesn’t support Biden.

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You guys have already made it clear that Antifa doesn’t support Biden.

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No...Antifa has made it clear they don't support Biden insomuch as their ultimate goal is the complete and total destruction of the USA. Which, ironically, Biden is doing quicker than they are.

This isn’t over by a long shot!

Another state says: 'We want the machines opened up' to verify 2020 election
Jack Davis, The Western Journal By Jack Davis, The Western Journal
Published June 6, 2021 at 3:33pm
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More than six months after the contentious 2020 election, some Republican lawmakers in North Carolina are asking questions about the state's process for counting votes.

The state General Assembly legislators want a closer look at how the process works, including a review of what took place last November, according to the Gateway Pundit.

Republican state Rep. Jeff McNeely framed the inquiry as one in which legislators wanted to sift truth from fiction.

https://www.wnd.com/2021/06/nc-house...es=%5B-MD5-%5D

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You guys have already made it clear that Antifa doesn’t support Biden.

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They should since he's given them money to loot and burn.

Typical Goosey, taking a simple concept and trying to twist it into something else to suit his twisted political agenda.

For the rest of you, it is really simple. It is true Antifa (and BLM) are not satisfied that one of their own, Harris-Biden, is in the WH. That was the message they were conveying after the election, don't think we will go away simply because the law & order and very decent POTUS, the honorable Donald Trump, has been voted out and fellow commie bastards now occupy the WH. We want more! Give it to us or we will turn on you, Ms. Harris and Sleepy, creepy Joe! That is what Antifa (and BLM) stated. Not the BS Goosey is spouting off.

And while it is true Antifa(and BLM) don't give a rat's azz about Biden, he and his ilk "care" about them insomuch as they use those thugs like Hitler used his Brown Shirts on the streets.

https://www.realclearinvestigations....ed_779795.html

Why were there any pristine ballots? All mail in ballots have to be folded to fit in their envelope. Why did the deputies leave their post? Were they paid off? Is there a money trail?

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https://www.realclearinvestigations....ed_779795.html

Why were there any pristine ballots? All mail in ballots have to be folded to fit in their envelope. Why did the deputies leave their post? Were they paid off? Is there a money trail?

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Dude. If you spent more time in the real world and less time in conspiracy theory land you would know the following:

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There are several reasons why absentee ballots wouldn’t have creases, said Joseph Kirk, elections director in Bartow County northwest of Atlanta, which conducted an audit of U.S. Senate runoffs in January.

Ballots are duplicated anytime they can’t be scanned, such as when they’re damaged in the mail or when opened by poll workers, said Kirk, who is not involved in the Fulton case. Ballots printed by military and overseas voters, and then mailed back to Georgia, also need to be duplicated to be read by scanners.

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Dude...and the original ballots marked "wrong," in this case for Trump, were all magically unscannable and thus, hey! we'll just help out by creating a new one, and oh look! now it is marked for Biden...imagine that.

Oh, I know! let's just verify all the "duplicated" ballots were actually marked the same as the original ballots...oh, but we can't, seems all the original ballots were destroyed...imagine that.

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Dude...and the original ballots marked "wrong," in this case for Trump, were all magically unscannable and thus, hey! we'll just help out by creating a new one, and oh look! now it is marked for Biden...imagine that.

Oh, I know! let's just verify all the "duplicated" ballots were actually marked the same as the original ballots...oh, but we can't, seems all the original ballots were destroyed...imagine that.

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Original ballots were not destroyed.

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Original ballots were not destroyed.

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Yes, they were.

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Yes, they were.

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What makes you say that? Based on what evidence?

Even if these "pristine" Georgia ballots are claimed to be properly duplicated, that doesn't explain why all of the markings on those ballots are identical. As if they were xeroxed copies.

Arizona is nearing completion of its forensic audit and other states including Georgia will be gearing up soon. Tick...tock...tick...tock....

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Even if these "pristine" Georgia ballots are claimed to be properly duplicated, that doesn't explain why all of the markings on those ballots are identical. As if they were xeroxed copies.

Arizona is nearing completion of its forensic audit and other states including Georgia will be gearing up soon. Tick...tock...tick...tock....

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Aren’t the ballots themselves identical? What kind of freestyle do you expect voters to put into their markings?

Lots of audits already that turned up no issues. There is really no end to the silliness Republicans will go to to keep up the charade.

Conservatives keep tearing down or going around your road blocks. You think just because MSM ignores the corruption issues, the rest of the world should to.

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Aren’t the ballots themselves identical? What kind of freestyle do you expect voters to put into their markings?

Lots of audits already that turned up no issues. There is really no end to the silliness Republicans will go to to keep up the charade.

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I drew a self-portrait on mine so it would always be clear that it was unique and mine and that nobody changed it. But I also rubbed it with bamboo slivers that glow under a black light (in a special pattern that only I know). I thought that's what everyone was supposed to do.

You voted in Texas, did they not give you crayons with your ballot? If not, you were being suppressed. We might need a Texas recount. I heard the governor changed the details of the voting rules without a full vote of the state legislature, too! You know that means none of the votes count, fortunately there is a mechanism in the Constitution that allows the previous president to be "reinstated" the following August after an election so long as he meets the threshold for pretending that he won long enough. We're almost there!

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Conservatives keep tearing down or going around your road blocks. You think just because MSM ignores the corruption issues, the rest of the world should to.

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They know that you will buy the grift until the end of time.

You ignore the obvious like the border cluster and increase in crime

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You ignore the obvious like the border cluster and increase in crime

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Crime like the insurrection?

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I drew a self-portrait on mine so it would always be clear that it was unique and mine and that nobody changed it. But I also rubbed it with bamboo silvers that glow under a black light (in a special pattern that only I know). I thought that's what everyone was supposed to do.

You voted in Texas, did they not give you crayons with your ballot? If not, you were being suppressed. We might need a Texas recount. I heard the governor changed the details of the voting rules without a full vote of the state legislature, too! You know that means none of the votes count, fortunately there is a mechanism in the Constitution that allows the previous president to be "reinstated" the following August after an election so long as he meets the threshold for pretending that he won long enough. We're almost there!

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Greatness

Quote from the original RealClear Investigations article for those who failed to comprehend the first time.

"When Fulton County, Ga., poll manager Suzi Voyles sorted through a large stack of mail-in ballots last November, she noticed an alarmingly odd pattern of uniformity in the markings for Joseph R. Biden. One after another, the absentee votes contained perfectly filled-in ovals for Biden — except that each of the darkened bubbles featured an identical white void inside them in the shape of a tiny crescent, indicating they'd been marked with toner ink instead of a pen or pencil.

Adding to suspicions, she noticed that all of the ballots were printed on different stock paper than the others she handled as part of a statewide hand recount of the razor-thin Nov. 3 presidential election. And none was folded or creased, as she typically observed in mail-in ballots that had been removed from envelopes.

In short, the Biden votes looked like they’d been duplicated by a copying machine."

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Quote from the original RealClear Investigations article for those who failed to comprehend the first time.

"When Fulton County, Ga., poll manager Suzi Voyles sorted through a large stack of mail-in ballots last November, she noticed an alarmingly odd pattern of uniformity in the markings for Joseph R. Biden. One after another, the absentee votes contained perfectly filled-in ovals for Biden — except that each of the darkened bubbles featured an identical white void inside them in the shape of a tiny crescent, indicating they'd been marked with toner ink instead of a pen or pencil.

Adding to suspicions, she noticed that all of the ballots were printed on different stock paper than the others she handled as part of a statewide hand recount of the razor-thin Nov. 3 presidential election. And none was folded or creased, as she typically observed in mail-in ballots that had been removed from envelopes.

In short, the Biden votes looked like they’d been duplicated by a copying machine."

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They were.

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They were.

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A confession!

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True, but there is undoubtedly some research showing a typical percentage in past elections versus the percentage of ballots in this last election. I think that is the major issue for most conservatives. Why did precincts have a historical average going back 40 years of 72% voter turnout and a 96% turnout in 2020? Not saying there was cheating, but abnormal voter behavior is more than obvious. Why and how? In the past, there may have been 18% of ballots with 1 selection and the rest blank. What was they percentage now and did those ballots come from areas that typically vote a certain way? Or do those constituents usually fill in their whole ballot and decided not to just this one time?

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I can think of a few unusual factors.

Polarizing incumbent. People at home being bombarded with political content. Making it easier to vote by mail (and again, the time to bother with it plus the social media promotion/explainers).

2020 was an abnormal year, it follows that there would be abnormal voter behavior (just like there was abnormal spending behavior and abnormal social behavior and abnormal media consumption, etc).

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Shouldn’t we see this same abnormal behavior across the country instead of just in strategic pockets of the country?

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Well, I think that probably depends. Were there no areas with abnormally (as opposed to the recent voting patterns) high Republican outcomes?

Turnout was crazy high across the board. I think some of that stuff I listed contributed to the abnormally high turnout. Some of those factors would likely contribute to higher than average blue turnout, and others maybe for red voters. Was that not the case?

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Happened to see this today:

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"In Pennsylvania, for example, more than 600,000 voters who cast ballots in 2020 had been eligible to vote in prior general elections but never did, TargetSmart found. More of these newly engaged voters registered as Republicans than Democrats by about 6 percentage points, giving the GOP an edge of about 35,400 voters in a fiercely competitive state - though one which Mr. Biden won…"

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So, again - high turnout across the board. Not necessarily the red flag it's been made out to be.

In short, the Biden votes looked like they’d been duplicated by a copying machine."

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They were.

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A confession!

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Yep, you caught me, I participated in a huge voter fraud scheme across the nation to get Biden elected. Yes, it is all true! The 2020 POTUS election was stolen...I confess.

Whew! feels good to get that off my chest.

"In Pennsylvania, for example, more than 600,000 voters who cast ballots in 2020 had been eligible to vote in prior general elections but never did, TargetSmart found. More of these newly engaged voters registered as Republicans than Democrats by about 6 percentage points, giving the GOP an edge of about 35,400 voters in a fiercely competitive state - though one which Mr. Biden won…"

MORE PROOF!

Republican votes change to Biden...fraud!

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Quote from the original RealClear Investigations article for those who failed to comprehend the first time.

"When Fulton County, Ga., poll manager Suzi Voyles sorted through a large stack of mail-in ballots last November, she noticed an alarmingly odd pattern of uniformity in the markings for Joseph R. Biden. One after another, the absentee votes contained perfectly filled-in ovals for Biden — except that each of the darkened bubbles featured an identical white void inside them in the shape of a tiny crescent, indicating they'd been marked with toner ink instead of a pen or pencil.

Adding to suspicions, she noticed that all of the ballots were printed on different stock paper than the others she handled as part of a statewide hand recount of the razor-thin Nov. 3 presidential election. And none was folded or creased, as she typically observed in mail-in ballots that had been removed from envelopes.

In short, the Biden votes looked like they’d been duplicated by a copying machine."

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We already know that ballots with creases that won’t be read by the machine easily get photocopied first (thus the toner). How come evidence that the correct process was followed is so confusing to you guys?

Btw, when you fill in a circle by doodling in the circle making many smaller loops (like most red-blooded Americans do) you either completely color in the circle or you leave a white crescent. Is the fact that many of the ballots have white crescents really surprising? Think, people.

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"In Pennsylvania, for example, more than 600,000 voters who cast ballots in 2020 had been eligible to vote in prior general elections but never did, TargetSmart found. More of these newly engaged voters registered as Republicans than Democrats by about 6 percentage points, giving the GOP an edge of about 35,400 voters in a fiercely competitive state - though one which Mr. Biden won…"

MORE PROOF!

Republican votes change to Biden...fraud!

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:)

More than those 600,000 previously eligible but voting for the first time voters actually voted in the election.

Naturally.

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We already know that ballots with creases that won’t be read by the machine easily get photocopied first (thus the toner). How come evidence that the correct process was followed is so confusing to you guys?

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But, would you have hundreds or thousands of ballots with the exact same marking? No. You would have hundreds or thousands of sets of 2. That is not what is alleged here.

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But, would you have hundreds or thousands of ballots with the exact same marking? No. You would have hundreds or thousands of sets of 2. That is not what is alleged here.

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The allegation was actually pretty vague, as most baseless allegations usually are....short on verifiable details.

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Happened to see this today:

So, again - high turnout across the board. Not necessarily the red flag it's been made out to be.

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Pennsylvania is the state that stopped counting votes around 2 AM when Trump was ahead by 400,000. They said they weren't counting any more that night so the poll watchers went home. Then they brought in a truckload of ballots that were all Biden votes and it's a close race the next morning. Why did they want to count these votes with nobody watching them?

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Pennsylvania is the state that stopped counting votes around 2 AM when Trump was ahead by 400,000. They said they weren't counting any more that night so the poll watchers went home. Then they brought in a truckload of ballots that were all Biden votes and it's a close race the next morning. Why did they want to count these votes with nobody watching them?

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Provably false. Check the time of the tweet.


https://twitter.com/commish_schmidt/...666659328?s=21

Also proves your crank was yanked.

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Pennsylvania is the state that stopped counting votes around 2 AM when Trump was ahead by 400,000. They said they weren't counting any more that night so the poll watchers went home. Then they brought in a truckload of ballots that were all Biden votes and it's a close race the next morning. Why did they want to count these votes with nobody watching them?

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Why do you think that happened? There doesn't seem to be a record of that being the case?

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKBN27Q307

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The posts claim that there was a spike of 1,000,000 mail in votes for Biden in Pennsylvania on the night of Nov. 3 to Nov. 4.

The FiveThirtyEight election blog update at 8:29 a.m. EST on Nov. 4 by Dan Hopkins, which shows a graph of the Pennsylvania vote count on the night of Nov. 3 to Nov. 4 ( here ) does not show a dump of 1 million votes for Biden alone. Between 12 a.m. and 6 a.m. EST the graph says that both Trump and Biden’s votes increased by approximately 1 million. The biggest increase was from midnight to 3 a.m. after which the tallies stayed very stable, not 2:00-4:00 a.m. as the social media posts suggest.

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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/09/this...-election.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fact-ch...poll-watchers/

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/penn...ry?id=73993649

Nice reliable links not worth clicking on.

So many Trump hating fools expect logical people to accept the leftist grift even though they really don’t

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Nice reliable links not worth clicking on.

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My link was to a tweet by a Pennsylvania election official at 2 am saying they were still counting and they wouldn’t stop with a live video link.

Literally proved everything that DonW was saying was false.

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My link was to a tweet by a Pennsylvania election official at 2 am saying they were still counting and they wouldn’t stop with a live video link.

Literally proved everything that DonW was saying was false.

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I rarely click on your links but was not replying to you

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https://www.adfontesmedia.com/static-mbc/

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Sourced reporting

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Interesting that CNBC is slightly right of center. Of all the options on the list, that is the one I watch and read the most.

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Interesting that CNBC is slightly right of center. Of all the options on the list, that is the one I watch and read the most.

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Funny!

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Funny!

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You obviously don’t watch CNBC. If they would get rid of Joe Kernen they probably would be dead center. He is the only clown that wants to keep providing political opinions. Otherwise, CNBC is one of the few refreshing places that reports actual news without making every issue about politics.

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You obviously don’t watch CNBC. If they would get rid of Joe Kernen they probably would be dead center. He is the only clown that wants to keep providing political opinions. Otherwise, CNBC is one of the few refreshing places that reports actual news without making every issue about politics.

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Dang! you almost got something right. In this case, you are so close to the actual truth I hate to rain on your parade, since you so rarely operate in reality. For now, okay, I'll let it slide, except to say Joe Kernen IS the balance that keeps CNBC in the center. He is just "louder" and more rooted in principle (or is it "principal"?) while the lefties, especially Andrew, can't summon credible counter-points and he, Andrew, is left stammering searching his little mind for some canned reply he was taught in libtard school. Yes, sometimes Kernen goes too far and should just let matters drop after he has made his point. But that is only a minor flaw.

Overall, I watch CNBC for the financial and stock market news. Rick Santelli and Steve Leason (butchered their names) get into heated discussions sometimes. Santelli leans slightly right, and Leason slightly left, although they both generally reside in the middle. Becky Quick is....well, just there to tell us the latest news on Warren Buffet.

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Interesting that CNBC is slightly right of center. Of all the options on the list, that is the one I watch and read the most.

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I easily spend the most time reading/listening to CT, The Dispatch, NPR. So pretty high up the reliability scale and 2 slightly right, one slightly left. I probably occasionally interact with a mix of the pure reporting stuff on a rotation. You get links to Reuters or AP from everywhere.

I would rather get a root canal than watch any version of cable news. I can't remember the last time I chose to watch one.

Back to CNBC...how can anyone not like Jim Cramer!? He's the Dick Vitale or Lee Corso of the network, loud and often wrong, but just fun to listen to.

During the day CNBC offers sound programming with high quality guests, CEOs and financial analysts, and is 99.8% rooted in factual news reporting.

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I easily spend the most time reading/listening to CT, The Dispatch, NPR. So pretty high up the reliability scale and 2 slightly right, one slightly left. I probably occasionally interact with a mix of the pure reporting stuff on a rotation. You get links to Reuters or AP from everywhere.

I would rather get a root canal than watch any version of cable news. I can't remember the last time I chose to watch one.

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Please tell me you are not calling NPR "slightly" left. They are 100% partisan and slant everything in that direction. Even Juan Williams wasn't liberal enough for them!

I do agree about cable news, though.

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Back to CNBC...how can anyone not like Jim Cramer!? He's the Dick Vitale or Lee Corso of the network, loud and often wrong, but just fun to listen to.

During the day CNBC offers sound programming with high quality guests, CEOs and financial analysts, and is 99.8% rooted in factual news reporting.

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Dick Vitale is an EXCELLENT comparison. Never thought of that one.

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Please tell me you are not calling NPR "slightly" left. They are 100% partisan and slant everything in that direction.

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I would have expected them to be a little farther to the left than they are on that chart (I don't know all the methodology there and I'm much more concerned with the north-south "reality" axis anyway). I wonder if they're distinguishing between the literal "NPR" news and the syndicated shows that vary from market to market for NPR? Like "Fresh Air" is certainly liberal, but it's also not technically "NPR" right? It's WHYY produced and just happens to be carried by a lot of NPR stations? The actual national NPR productions like Morning Edition and All Things Considered I'd still consider left leaning, but not to the extent that the syndicated shows tend to be.

In any case, I try to get most of my news from organizations towards the top of that scale. I guess there are probably liberals who would say CT isn't far enough right (and many on the right who would place it clear over to the left). Same for The Dispatch. At the very least, assuming there is a consistent methodology for this thing, it'd still show a relative relationship between the various sources of information.

QUOTE=inudesu;1803538]Why do you think that happened? There doesn't seem to be a record of that being the case?

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKBN27Q307



https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/09/this...-election.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fact-ch...poll-watchers/

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/penn...ry?id=73993649[/QUOTE]Why do you think they counted the votes with nobody watching them? They had also locked out
the observers earlier in the day. All of this was reported on FNC. No other news media reported it except Newsmax. All of the other media were supporting Biden, so, Anybody who thinks this was a fair election is either crazy or just too stupid to understand what went on.

Trump got 11 million votes more than he did in 2020. Biden got 14 million more than Hillary and he wasn't as good of a candidate as she was. Why would more voters come out to vote for Biden? I could see more voters coming out because nobody wanted out country turning into a marxist government under Biden. There was a lot to lose if Biden won and we are now seeing that come true. Biden campaigned in parking lots with about 25 cars while Trump drew thousands. Biden had no platform and Trump had brought the economy back from Obama's and Biden's failures to be one of the best ever. People normally vote their pocketbook. There was no reason for anybody to vote for Biden unless they favor Marxism. The critical race theory is right out of the marxist handbook for overthrowing existing governments. Biden had already compromised himself with the CCP and the CCP now has the largest military in the world. They'll be taking over Taiwan real soon.

Tim Scott has a great ad on FNC now. Everyone who loves this country needs to see it. Our country is in real danger right now with Biden as president.

Just watching FNC right now and they are talking about Omar praising the Taliban and Hamas. Could this have even happened 10 years ago?

Pray for Joe Manchin. He could be the one that saves our country.

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Why do you think they counted the votes with nobody watching them? They had also locked out the
observers earlier in the day. All of this was reported on FNC. No other news media reported it except Newsmax, because they were supporting Joe and the Hoe. Anybody who thinks this was a fair election is either crazy or just too stupid to understand what went on.

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They didn’t. That was erroneous reporting that many right wing sources never corrected. See the tweet I posted.

The commissioner in Philadelphia literally tweeted at 2 am saying they were not stopping in response to the bad reporting.

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Why do you think they counted the votes with nobody watching them? They had also locked out
the observers earlier in the day. All of this was reported on FNC. No other news media reported it except Newsmax. All of the other media were supporting Joe and the Hoe, so, Anybody who thinks this was a fair election is either crazy or just too stupid to understand what went on.

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What is FNC? Fox?

I can't find any reporting about this. It doesn't sound like it happened.

If one (very unreliable) news source is reporting something, and all the other ones are reporting the opposite (and showing their work - quotes from the people involved, hard date like the 538 stuff showing the numbers as they changed) it seems more likely to me that it didn't happen than that all the news companies in the world (save one) are covering something up. Especially something that would be as obvious as "hey everyone, head on home, we'll start back tomorrow" and then sneaking back in the building to forge ballots (or change ballots? or just tally non-ballots?).

I mean, they have systems for this stuff. That everyone on both sides knows about.

It's just not very plausible. But I'd be willing to read reporting about it if you can find it (I couldn't).

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There was no reason for anybody to vote for Biden unless they favor Marxism.

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I don't think this is the case.

Lots of people voted for him. Even if you don't think he won (which he clearly did), millions of people voted for him. Very very very few of them are Marxists.

I didn't vote for him, but a majority of voters did.

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What is FNC? Fox?

I can't find any reporting about this. It doesn't sound like it happened.

If one (very unreliable) news source is reporting something, and all the other ones are reporting the opposite (and showing their work - quotes from the people involved, hard date like the 538 stuff showing the numbers as they changed) it seems more likely to me that it didn't happen than that all the news companies in the world (save one) are covering something up. Especially something that would be as obvious as "hey everyone, head on home, we'll start back tomorrow" and then sneaking back in the building to forge ballots (or change ballots? or just tally non-ballots?).

I mean, they have systems for this stuff. That everyone on both sides knows about.

It's just not very plausible. But I'd be willing to read reporting about it if you can find it (I couldn't).

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Wake up and get your head out of your ass. Everything i wrote was reported on FNC. Have you not learned yet how crooked the majority of the media is.? you can't even trust the AP anymore.

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The commissioner in Philadelphia literally tweeted at 2 am saying they were not stopping in response to the bad reporting.

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Kind of refutes your claim, doesn’t it?

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I don't think this is the case.

Lots of people voted for him. Even if you don't think he won (which he clearly did), millions of people voted for him. Very very very few of them are Marxists.

I didn't vote for him, a majority of voters did.

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There's no difference in Marxists and present day democrats. Critical race theory is straight out of the Marxist handbook.

[QUOTE=Guisslapp;1803640]Kind of refutes your claim, doesn’t it?[/QUOTE. This was the most crooked election in the history of the world. I stayed up until 2 AM on election night and FNC showed the inside of the building and everybody had gone home that was counting votes. They brought another crew in that counted the write in ballots on that truck. Trump had a 400,000 vote lead when they stopped at 2. At 8 the next morning they were real close.

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Wake up and get your head out of your ass. Everything i wrote was reported on FNC. Have you not learned yet how crooked the majority of the media is.? you can't even trust the AP anymore.

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Well, again - I don't know what FNC is. That'd be a place to start.

Is that Fox news? Fox new channel? Is that archived somewhere?

The AP is still pretty factual. I don't know why you think you can't trust them.

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This was the most crooked election in the history of the world.

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Why are you ignoring the tweet from 2 am from the Philadelphia commissioner saying they will not stop counting?

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There's no difference in Marxists and present day democrats. Critical race theory is straight out of the Marxist handbook.

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So even if you don't think Biden won, surely you can't deny he got tens of millions of votes. I don't think many of those voters would consider themselves Marxists (nor do I think Marx himself would think they were).

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Why are you ignoring the tweet from 2 am from the Philadelphia commissioner saying they will not stop counting?

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It seems inconsistent to claim that "they" stated they'd stop counting votes for the night when there is evidence that the person in charge publicly said they weren't stopping at the same time he was supposed to have said they were stopping.

That seems like a clue this didn't happen and that FNC was wrong about in their reporting about it. Right?

Not to mention the 538 chart showing the vote totals as they came in. Trump was ahead all the way through the next morning on that chart - it was the later mailed in votes that changed the outcome. And even then, the question was always whether Trump had enough lead when they knew the votes still being counted were mail in votes (which leaned D) and the bigger cities (which lean D). And in both cases, nobody was surprised. They weren't allowed to start counting the mail in votes until later and the higher numbers of votes in big cities naturally take longer to count. At 8:00 the next morning, Trump was still up 620,000 votes, but that was only 75% of all votes.

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I stayed up until 2 AM on election night and FNC showed the inside of the building and everybody had gone home that was counting votes. They brought another crew in that counted the write in ballots on that truck. Trump had a 400,000 vote lead when they stopped at 2. At 8 the next morning they were real close.

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Obviously they did not show the entire building. And obviously they didn’t report what the Philadelphia commissioner was tweeting at 2 am.

I keep telling you that FoxNews yanks your crank. This is just one of the many examples.

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Why are you ignoring the tweet from 2 am from the Philadelphia commissioner saying they will not stop counting?

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All I know is what I saw on FNC. Everybody went home around 2 AM. That's when they started bringing the write-in votes in the building and the next morning they said most of them had been counted. It was a real mess in that building and i don't see how they kept the ballots separated and counted in an organized manner. It was easy for the democrats to cheat.

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All I know is what I saw on FNC. Everybody went home around 2 AM. That's when they started bringing the write-in votes in the building and the next morning they said most of them had been counted. It was a real mess in that building and i don't see how they kept the ballots separated and counted in an organized manner. It was easy for the democrats to cheat.

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News flash: FoxNews is partisan and misleading and tells conservatives things that they will find titillating. It does the trick with you.

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News flash: FoxNews is partisan and misleading and tells conservatives things that they will find titillating. It does the trick with you.

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FNC is the only reliable news source there is. CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WP, and many other liberal rags report nothing but fake news.

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FNC is the only reliable news source there is. CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WP, and many other liberal rags report nothing but fake news.

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To the extent those are unreliable, FoxNews is even more unreliable. FoxNews just says things that get your juices flowing.

Newsflash: news shouldn’t be mostly about politics. If what you are watching is mostly about politics, you are letting politics play too big a role in your life.

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To the extent those are unreliable, FoxNews is even more unreliable. FoxNews just says things that get your juices flowing.

Newsflash: news shouldn’t be mostly about politics. If what you are watching is mostly about politics, you are letting politics play too big a role in your life.

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FNC is the only reliable source of news. You have been brain washed by lying democrats. The only good democrat is Joe Manchin. He may be the most important man in the US right now.

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The only good democrat is Joe Manchin. He may be the most important man in the US right now.

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Trust me, Joe Manchin is not reliable. I lived in WV for about 9 years, and he is doing what he is doing just for the benefit of the TV coverage. He loves him some Joe Manchin.

The one thing I am counting on is his desire for self preservation. Remember, a good portion of his state voted for a guy spending time in a Texas jail for fraud or something like that when Hillary was the only dem left in the primary. Hopefully he sees the writing on the wall and continues to vote as an American patriot in this matter.

Edited: It was against Obama in 2012, not Hillary.

Manchin is being a good little democrat by providing cover for all his colleagues who feel the same as him. They all know coming out against the filibuster right now in liberal stronghold states will be the fast track to ouster in 2022. They do the same for him when it’s an issue that will get him replaced. He gets to look conservative so he can keep his seat. No independent thinkers.

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Manchin is being a good little democrat by providing cover for all his colleagues who feel the same as him. They all know coming out against the filibuster right now in liberal stronghold states will be the fast track to ouster in 2022. They do the same for him when it’s an issue that will get him replaced. He gets to look conservative so he can keep his seat. No independent thinkers.

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Even AOC can see the writing on the wall that the dems will lose the house in 2022. She has warned and eluded to that.

LOLOLOL

"you are letting politics play too big a role in your life." - some silly poster

Anyone care to guess who would top the list of posters in the pawlitics forum if a count were be done by user?

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LOLOLOL

"you are letting politics play too big a role in your life." - some silly poster

Anyone care to guess who would top the list of posters in the pawlitics forum if a count were be done by user?

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Ray, and it wouldn’t even be close.

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They didn’t. That was erroneous reporting that many right wing sources never corrected. See the tweet I posted.

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Fox showed the outside of the building and they had covered the windows to keep people from seeing in. The observers had been locked outside and that is a violation of voting laws. Why do you think they did that?

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Fox showed the outside of the building and they had covered the windows to keep people from seeing in. The observers had been locked outside and that is a violation of voting laws. Why do you think they did that?

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Obviously to yank your crank. You made a mistake putting so much faith in FoxNews.

It is typical in all states to limit the number of election observers present in the polling places. It isn’t a free-for-all. Philadelphia allowed observers for both candidates.

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Obviously to yank your crank. You made a mistake putting so much faith in FoxNews.

It is typical in all states to limit the number of election observers present in the polling places. It isn’t a free-for-all. Philadelphia allowed observers for both candidates.

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Observers were never allowed closer than 12 ft. Everything about this election was crooked. The observers went to the police chief to get him to let them in the building and he wouldn't do it. You choose to ignore this kind of crap by not watching FNC You don't know what went on because none of the liberal news that you watch would show it.

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Obviously to yank your crank. You made a mistake putting so much faith in FoxNews.

It is typical in all states to limit the number of election observers present in the polling places. It isn’t a free-for-all. Philadelphia allowed observers for both candidates.

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Not a true statement. Dems had 24 hr access and could come and go as they pleased, GOP poll watchers were denied access for hours at a time, several times during the critical 24 hr period when most of the ballots were counted. GOP observers had (have) documented PROOF of it on their phones, said video shared. I was watching it LIVE on election day.

Goosey is too far gone, but for the rest of you, here's what really happened:

because of China virus "concerns" the number of people physically permitted to enter the ballot-counting facility was limited. I don't recall the actual numbers, so for the sake of illustration, let's say that number was 200. Well, the guards at the door, hired thugs by the local DEM-controlled election department, denied GOP observers access. The GOP county chief, the man in charge for the GOP, was stopped at the door and told the number inside was already at the allowable 200. He said, yeah but there are NOT 100 GOP observers inside, there are barely any....IF ANY! The thug guard just shrugged his shoulders. Then a Dem observer came out, the crowd of about 40-50 GOP observers said, look! there is an opening, someone came out, so someone can go in. There were a handful of Dem observers also standing outside...one of them was permitted to go in for the person who had come out. Some in the Dem crowd started shouting, a Dem for a Dem! But the GOP county director said, I KNOW who was assigned to observe here, I have the list of 100 names, and most of them are standing right here, meaning I KNOW we don't have our share inside.

And it went on. I watched the whole episode live...on my phone as I was dog-sitting as my wife and sister were in the Hobby Lobby and Kohl's and all the rest spending money. It was a clear case of a lockout, perpetrated by the local Dem election officials and enforced with hired guns. They had interviews with a bunch of the GOP observers who confirmed the big VOTER FRAUD CAPER was on-going inside the building. One woman said, I was one of those selected to be a poll watcher, here today, and I have never allowed inside, not once.

Again...I just used the "200" number to illustrate the point, don't recall the actual number. Regardless, the GOP was denied having 50% participation.

The 2020 POTUS election was stolen! Period. End of story. Don't allow those who perpetrated the great theft get away with also stealing the truth.

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Observers were never allowed closer than 12 ft. Everything about this election was crooked. The observers went to the police chief to get him to let them in the building and he wouldn't do it. You choose to ignore this kind of crap by not watching FNC You don't know what went on because none of the liberal news that you watch would show it.

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Not true. FoxNews is lying. Originally Philly made observers stand further away, but after the court told them they had to allow them to stand closer, they did.

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Not a true statement. Dems had 24 hr access and could come and go as they pleased, GOP poll watchers were denied access for hours at a time, several times during the critical 24 hr period when most of the ballots were counted. GOP observers had (have) documented PROOF of it on their phones, said video shared. I was watching it LIVE on election day.

Goosey is too far gone, but for the rest of you, here's what really happened:

because of China virus "concerns" the number of people physically permitted to enter the ballot-counting facility was limited. I don't recall the actual numbers, so for the sake of illustration, let's say that number was 200. Well, the guards at the door, hired thugs by the local DEM-controlled election department, denied GOP observers access. The GOP county chief, the man in charge for the GOP, was stopped at the door and told the number inside was already at the allowable 200. He said, yeah but there are NOT 100 GOP observers inside, there are barely any....IF ANY! The thug guard just shrugged his shoulders. Then a Dem observer came out, the crowd of about 40-50 GOP observers said, look! there is an opening, someone came out, so someone can go in. There were a handful of Dem observers also standing outside...one of them was permitted to go in for the person who had come out. Some in the Dem crowd started shouting, a Dem for a Dem! But the GOP county director said, I KNOW who was assigned to observe here, I have the list of 100 names, and most of them are standing right here, meaning I KNOW we don't have our share inside.

And it went on. I watched the whole episode live...on my phone as I was dog-sitting as my wife and sister were in the Hobby Lobby and Kohl's and all the rest spending money. It was a clear case of a lockout, perpetrated by the local Dem election officials and enforced with hired guns. They had interviews with a bunch of the GOP observers who confirmed the big VOTER FRAUD CAPER was on-going inside the building. One woman said, I was one of those selected to be a poll watcher, here today, and I have never allowed inside, not once.

Again...I just used the "200" number to illustrate the point, don't recall the actual number. Regardless, the GOP was denied having 50% participation.

The 2020 POTUS election was stolen! Period. End of story. Don't allow those who perpetrated the great theft get away with also stealing the truth.

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You were snookered.

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Not true. FoxNews is lying. Originally Philly made observers stand further away, but after the court told them they had to allow them to stand closer, they did.

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They were allowed to move closer after the count (fix) was in.

QUOTE=Guisslapp;1803731]Not true. FoxNews is lying. Originally Philly made observers stand further away, but after the court told them they had to allow them to stand closer, they did.[/QUOTE]This whole election was set up so democrats could cheat. Even Jimmy Carter said mailing out ballots was inviting people to cheat and that's exactly what happened. No way Biden would have won in a fair election. There was no reason to vote for him unless you are a liberal democrat. The observers were never allowed to get close enough to see the ballots.

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You were snookered.

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No, you have been. It was all LIVE with Facebook Live and I watched the whole thing. Do not tell me what I saw and witnessed for myself. Later there was some lame excuse given about "miscommunications" and a "misunderstanding" so "don't blame the security guards hired for the day." Note the misdirection. No one was blaming the $10/hour security guards, but rather those who hired them and gave them orders, and who IGNORED repeated requests to meet with the GOP county commissioner.

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QUOTE=Guisslapp;1803731]Not true. FoxNews is lying. Originally Philly made observers stand further away, but after the court told them they had to allow them to stand closer, they did.

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This whole election was set up so democrats could cheat. Even Jimmy Carter said mailing out ballots was inviting people to cheat and that's exactly what happened. No way Biden would have won in a fair election. There was no reason to vote for him unless you are a liberal democrat. The observers were never allowed to get close enough to see the ballots.[/QUOTE]

That is true too. Once some GOP observers were in the building they were kept across the room, not allowed to get closer. That was the next day anyway, the following morning. The bigger issue was what I posted which happened on election day.

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No, you have been. It was all LIVE with Facebook Live and I watched the whole thing. Do not tell me what I saw and witnessed for myself. Later there was some lame excuse given about "miscommunications" and a "misunderstanding" so "don't blame the security guards hired for the day." Note the misdirection. No one was blaming the $10/hour security guards, but rather those who hired them and gave them orders, and who IGNORED repeated requests to meet with the GOP county commissioner.

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You didn’t see everything. You just saw what they wanted you to see.

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You didn’t see everything. You just saw what they wanted you to see.

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Right, FACEBOOK wanted everyone to see the fraud. Ha! You know pot is still illegal in Texas, right?

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Right, FACEBOOK wanted everyone to see the fraud. Ha! You know pot is still illegal in Texas, right?

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Facebook isn’t the one filming it, were they?

Today, AG Garland stated:

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JUST IN - Attorney General Merrick Garland announces that the Justice Department will scrutinize any post-election audits for evidence of voting law violations.

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The response he got from AZ Senator was this:

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Wendy Rogers
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You will not touch Arizona ballots or machines unless you want to spend time in an Arizona prison.

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Damn!

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Wendy Rogers
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The free state of Arizona will not tolerate this federal meddling.


Wendy Rogers
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If Attorney General Merrick Garland thinks he has a right to our ballots and machines he should go to court. If he uses force when multiple courts have already authorized this audit he will be in violation of the law. Lawless thugs is all they will be!


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The Arizona senator has a flair for the dramatic crank yank. Because there was nothing in what Garland said that implied that.

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You didn’t see everything. You just saw what they wanted you to see.

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Yes, they wanted me and everyone else to see the voter fraud going on, and that is exactly what we did see.