Covid - 19

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

Yes, every patient is asymptomatic just before they get the virus. Don't assume many, if any at all, of the nursing home patients have a lag from exposure to symptoms. I assume that is the testing window you think should be monitored. That is impossible to do with nursing home patients, but hopefully possible for the employees very soon.

That would be a state guideline that he had the power to change as needed. He is blaming the CDC for something he had complete authority to handle properly. He hit the panic button and killed people.

He was looking for hospital beds so he took those likely to die anyway out of the hospital and sent them back to mix with others who were sure to die if they were infected...and they did. BTW, many of these sick people were sent back to the nursing homes AFTER the Comfort got there and after the pop up hospitals were built. Basically none of those facilities were used.

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Every symptomatic COVID patient was at one point asymptomatic but had the virus.

A recent study (Reich) in the Annals of Internal Medicine calculates that the median incubation period for COVID-19 is just over five days and that 97.5 percent of people who develop symptoms will do so within 11.5 days of infection.

I wasn’t making up a hypothetical, I was describing something that is actually happening in nursing homes.

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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

The results of this poll were released yesterday. I imagine they're no more pro-genocide than the Texas Lt. Governor.

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Right...you could have stopped at "New York voters" part of the post. That says it all.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

Every symptomatic COVID patient was at one point asymptomatic but had the virus.

A recent study (Reich) in the Annals of Internal Medicine calculates that the median incubation period for COVID-19 is just over five days and that 97.5 percent of people who develop symptoms will do so within 11.5 days of infection.

I wasn’t making up a hypothetical, I was describing something that is actually happening in nursing homes.

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Why are we only hearing about the ones in New York? I've heard about a couple of others and a VA Home, but not like in New York.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

Right...you could have stopped at "New York voters" part of the post. That says it all.


Why are we only hearing about the ones in New York? I've heard about a couple of others and a VA Home, but not like in New York.

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Well, we have heard about the ones in Washingon (the first major outbreak), New Jersey, California, Louisiana (at least before mid April).

https://www.wbrz.com/news/state-moni...usters-in-la-/

That list doesn’t include them all. “Why don’t we see more reporting” is a good question .

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

https://www.wbrz.com/news/state-moni...usters-in-la-/
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Poorly written to say the least.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

Poorly written to say the least.

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True, but this is what I am curious about:

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The state has said it is no longer reporting the names of nursing homes with virus cases.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

Apparently Louisiana nursing homes let COVID positive workers come back. I assume the same is true for their residents (if they survive).

Keep in mind if you are going to isolate the workers with the residents you will need multiple shifts therefore many more rooms that these nursing facilities don’t have. The isolation strategy just doesn’t work.

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If you are unable to think outside of the box and have zero creativity, then you are correct.

I guess some folks just cannot see solutions until they have been implemented elsewhere and written in a book.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

True, but this is what I am curious about:

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Because the state knows families will call BS when they realize deaths by “natural causes” are pretty much ALL labeled death by China Virus

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

True, but this is what I am curious about:

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They actually stopped doing that early on. At the very beginning they were listing them every time there was an outbreak in a nursing home. It became hard to keep track of them. I want to say that was 4-5 weeks ago that they stopped doing this.

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Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow

If you are unable to think outside of the box and have zero creativity, then you are correct.

I guess some folks just cannot see solutions until they have been implemented elsewhere and written in a book.

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Your plan doesn’t work.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

Because the state knows families will call BS when they realize deaths by “natural causes” are pretty much ALL labeled death by China Virus

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That’s not it.

New study says HCQ doesn’t work.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2012410

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

That’s not it.

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health officials said the volume of homes made it too difficult to report the names of individual facilities.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nol...19075.amp.html

Not sure I buy that either.

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Dr. Alex Billioux, assistant secretary for the state Office of Public Health, said his department decided to stop identifying nursing homes to focus on elderly patients. He was asked whether the nursing home industry had lobbied for the change, and replied, “The focus is on the patients.”

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The rest of the article elaborates more on the strength of the lobby. Who knows? This article is better than the other one I posted.

What I said above.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

Your plan doesn’t work.

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LOL. You're one of those simpletons I was speaking about, then.

You wear it well.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

New study says HCQ doesn’t work.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2012410

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Congrats!