Immigration

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Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow

I skimmed the article. Headlines are always biased.

Are you believing that he is not the father, she reported to an immigration center for asylum, and she doesn't have three other children that she abandoned to make the trip?

It is good to know, though, that a good scorning by a woman is sufficient to deprive you of your rights as a father.

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LOL!

I didn’t say any of that. I’m saying that had the father come out and said Melania kicked his kid as she boarded the plane, you’d be picking the article apart...and that claim would be just as corroborated as the one above. But, because you want to believe what he says, you’re just accepting it despite the numerous questions that logically follow from the Dad’s testimony. Like:

1. How do you know the child wasn’t separated?

2. Have you spoken with your wife?

3. Why do you think she left?

I see Trump is on TV playing the same game the media is playing with the crying children.

He is having a press conference with people who had loved ones killed by illegal immigrants.

Normally this kind of thing disgusts me, but in this case I think he gets the right to fight back.

If you are against Trump's policy, you are FOR people being murdered by illegals. Wow, I should get a media job!

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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

LOL!

I didn’t say any of that. I’m saying that had the father come out and said Melania kicked his kid as she boarded the plane, you’d be picking the article apart...and that claim would be just as corroborated as the one above. But, because you want to believe what he says, you’re just accepting it despite the numerous questions that logically follow from the Dad’s testimony. Like:

1. How do you know the child wasn’t separated?

2. Have you spoken with your wife?

3. Why do you think she left?

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Nope, Melania can kick wherever she wants.

I don't know, but we already have the biased magazine cover and implication that Trump personally made sure the little girl was separated and he made her cry. This just seems to be a balancing point that I have not seen refuted.

Why do you think she left with only one of four kids? Or is that not proven either? Heck, how do we even know she is here at all? I believe that to be a computer generated little girl that never lived. She doesn't even have a mother...it has not been proven.

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Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow

Nope, Melania can kick wherever she wants.

I don't know, but we already have the biased magazine cover and implication that Trump personally made sure the little girl was separated and he made her cry. This just seems to be a balancing point that I have not seen refuted.

Why do you think she left with only one of four kids? Or is that not proven either? Heck, how do we even know she is here at all? I believe that to be a computer generated little girl that never lived. She doesn't even have a mother...it has not been proven.

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Just as corroborated as the story you choose to believe.

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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

Just as corroborated as the story you choose to believe.

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No longer the case. Check out the Washington Post article. It corroborates a lot of what the dad says.

See, that wasn’t so hard.

“Varela pushed back against the portrayals of his daughter’s story, saying it should not cast doubt on the “human rights violations” taking place at the border.
“This*is the case for my daughter, but it is not the case for 2,000 children that were separated from their parents,” Varela said.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...r-father-says/

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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

No longer the case. Check out the Washington Post article. It corroborates a lot of what the dad says.

See, that wasn’t so hard.

“Varela pushed back against the portrayals of his daughter’s story, saying it should not cast doubt on the “human rights violations” taking place at the border.
“This*is the case for my daughter, but it is not the case for 2,000 children that were separated from their parents,” Varela said.”

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Just another biased article. I don't buy any of it.

Why should I trust the Washington Post?

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Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow

Just another biased article. I don't buy any of it.

Why should I trust the Washington Post?

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Who said anything about trust? You’re considering testimony...the testimony of two official organizations to be exact.

If you can’t see the difference between the two reports, I think you may be lying about having gone to Tech. It’s night and day and I feel certain you know that.

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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

Who said anything about trust? You’re considering testimony...the testimony of two official organizations to be exact.

If you can’t see the difference between the two reports, I think you may be lying about having gone to Tech. It’s night and day and I feel certain you know that.

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I could see the father was telling the truth. You chose to think he had an ulterior motive (he was a scorned man), when he did not say anything that would give you that impression.

This woman should be separated from her child and put in jail for endangering her life, and the child should be returned to the father and siblings in Honduras.

I think you can see that.

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Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow

I could see the father was telling the truth. You chose to think he had an ulterior motive (he was a scorned man), when he did not say anything that would give you that impression.

This woman should be separated from her child and put in jail for endangering her life, and the child should be returned to the father and siblings in Honduras.

I think you can see that.

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You didn’t read the second article did you?

All I said was that the father was biased. I never said he wasn’t telling the truth.

You didn’t really care about the veracity of his claim because his testimony supported your belief...text book confirmation bias.

Knowing is half the battle.

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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

Knowing is half the battle.

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But unfortunately, many here refuse to know anything. So we have to deal with bullshit like #deepstate, r/RussiaDidNothingWrong, White is Might, Wall 2.0, EEEEEMMMMMMMMMAAAAAIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLSSSSSSS SSSSSSS, etc.

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Originally Posted by JuBru

But unfortunately, many here refuse to know anything. So we have to deal with bullshit like #deepstate, r/RussiaDidNothingWrong, White is Might, Wall 2.0, EEEEEMMMMMMMMMAAAAAIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLSSSSSSS SSSSSSS, etc.

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Don't get your libtard panties in a wad....:laugh:

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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

I mainly read my news. I read from Fox and CNN and whoever else I see linked. I reject the notion that I can't learn something from someone who is biased. I just have to understand the biases.

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Gotcha

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Originally Posted by JuBru

But unfortunately, many here refuse to know anything. So we have to deal with bullshit like #deepstate, r/RussiaDidNothingWrong, White is Might, Wall 2.0, EEEEEMMMMMMMMMAAAAAIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLSSSSSSS SSSSSSS, etc.

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These just happen to be the issues today and magnified by the 24 hour news cycle and so many liberal media sources vs. conservative. But BS they aren't. But I agree with you that it all like hearing the same song played on the radio over and over again.

“I worry about my daughter constantly. I am not able to speak with her directly. I do not know if she is well cared for. I do not know if she has been sick. I do not know if she has been sleeping well or eating well. Not knowing anything about my daughter is torture. I am not able to sleep. I desperately want to be with her," A.P.F.

Can you imagine?