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Originally Posted by saltydawg

Some food for thought.

http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/may2...8-05-23-01.asp

I luv the way Tyler says, "Don't worry, be Happy!"

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I'm going to use one of your pat responses: the source of that particular article (Nationa; Resource Defense Council) is obviously so one-sided that it would be ridiculous to take it as a serious argument.

http://www.nrdc.org/about/

Honestly, if you want to make a logical, reasonable, scientific points re, global warming, don't reference something from these yahoos:

"NRDC is the nation's most effective environmental action group, combining the grassroots power of 1.2 million members and online activists with the courtroom clout and expertise of more than 350 lawyers, scientists and other professionals. "

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Originally Posted by saltydawg

I luv the way Tyler says, "Don't worry, be Happy!"

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and I luv the way you are constantly being Chicken Little, "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!."

The study was produced by researchers at Tufts University. You sound like you enjoy breathing air pollution. The sky IS falling.

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Originally Posted by saltydawg

You sound like you enjoy breathing air pollution. The sky IS falling.

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For a supposedly educated person, you make some pretty uneducated statements.

So now CO2 is air pollution, breathing it in is bad, but exhaling it is not.

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Originally Posted by saltydawg

The study was produced by researchers at Tufts University.

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Yes, at the request of and funded by the enviro-activists at NRDC. Do a little research into the bias towards the opinion of the fund giver that occurs in "research" of this type.

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Originally Posted by DogtorEvil

Yes, at the request of and funded by the enviro-activists at NRDC. Do a little research into the bias towards the opinion of the fund giver that occurs in "research" of this type.

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Just speculation, not fact.

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Originally Posted by DogtorEvil

For a supposedly educated person, you make some pretty uneducated statements.

So now CO2 is air pollution, breathing it in is bad, but exhaling it is not.

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The US SUpreme Court has ruled that man-made CO2 can be considered air pollution. I thought you knew that.

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Originally Posted by saltydawg

Just speculation, not fact.

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pretty much sums up global warming science.

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Originally Posted by saltydawg

The US SUpreme Court has ruled that man-made CO2 can be considered air pollution. I thought you knew that.

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well, the world's foremost experts on air pollution have spoken. it is now settled.

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Originally Posted by saltydawg

The study was produced by researchers at Tufts University. You sound like you enjoy breathing air pollution. The sky IS falling.

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Originally Posted by saltydawg

The US SUpreme Court has ruled that man-made CO2 can be considered air pollution. I thought you knew that.

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so, just to be clear, you think that it is unhealthy to breathe co2 in concentrations less than 0.1%?

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Originally Posted by saltydawg

The US SUpreme Court has ruled that man-made CO2 can be considered air pollution. I thought you knew that.

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They ruled 5-4 that the EPA had the authority to and must regulate CO2 emissions from vehicles as part of the Clean Air Act (even though there was nothing in the original regulation associated with regulating CO2). The EPA does not have to regulate CO2 vehicle emissions if it proves that CO2 is not a pollutant or that it cannot regulate it. Note - the EPA can decide to regulate by leaving current emissions standards as they're currently set.

I foiund this interesting (and rather stupid): Justice John Paul Stevens, writing for the majority, said the Clean Air Act’s definition of the term “air pollutant” “embraces all airborne compounds of whatever stripe.”

Thus, nitrogen, oxygen and water (THE major greenhouse gas) could also be regulated.

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Originally Posted by saltydawg

Just speculation, not fact.

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Not necessarily "fact", but much more than speculation. There have been multiple studies showing the relationship between researcher bias and research results.

Global warming worse than previously thought.

http://www.dawn.com/2008/05/25/top10.htm

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Originally Posted by saltydawg

Global warming worse than previously thought.

http://www.dawn.com/2008/05/25/top10.htm

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It can't be worse than previously thought. WE'RE STILL HERE.

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Originally Posted by saltydawg

Global warming worse than previously thought.

http://www.dawn.com/2008/05/25/top10.htm

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Summer sea ice in the Arctic, for instance, shrank to a record low last year --- nearly 40 per cent less than the long-term average between 1979 and 2000.

Can someone define for me what is meant by the long-term average between 1979 and 2000? Is this the same as saying the average between 1979 and 2000.