Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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JuBru
What law would be broken with amnesty?
I guess you don't know that congress must pass a law and the president is to enforce it. Until congress passes a law like deferred action for illegals and the president signs it, the president does not have the latitude not to enforce existing law. Existing law is to deport all illegals that do not have an asylum case. That's not my spin, that's what the supreme court said when they ruled Obama broke the law and DACA was illegal. The president does have some leeway when enforcing law but he cant make shit up out of thin air and say it is the law of the land.
This wont matter one bit if Hillary is elected. The rule of law is almost totally gone for criminal offenses, unless its a conservative or religious person. A 5-4 liberal court and you can kiss the second amendment goodbye and the fact that a president does not enforce current law will be moot. Hillary will legalize 20 million if she has to individually grant each amnesty to go around congress and a liberal court will see it as justice not illegal.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
cscollis
If you care about our country, either support Trump or shut the **** up and quit attacking him.
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cscollis
Oh and I agree you suck!
Why are you so angry? I didn't say he couldn't do those things (though I certainly wonder if he's savvy enough to work the system as it is), I said that the things he's proposing wouldn't yield the results he's after.
It's not my fault we nominated a big government leftist with a loud mouth. The people decided to run the only politician in America with a lower favorability than Hillary. We'll see how that works out in November.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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dawg80
That organization.....chit! can't remember its name. It makes predictions about all kinds of things, especially elections. Anyway, going back to 1988 they have nailed the POTUS race, using the Electoral College as its metric, and they have been right each time, within +/- 7%. Well, they have Killary winning easily 346 to 192. Even if they are off the full 7%, this baby is over.
So....what to do? Roll with it, baby! Remember Killary is beholden to Wall Street. Whatever stocks/companies Warren Buffet's Berkshire's is looking at, YOU BUY those equities too. You'll make a bunch in the market and that will help soothe watching the destruction of America. Become a PIG...like in Animal Farm. Eff all those morons in the middle and lower classes who'll get screwed by Killary. Eff all those morons around the world who will die at the hands of an emboldened ISIS. Just as long as it ain't us, right?
It was over the moment Trump became the nominee. Hillary is able to easily paint Trump as an evil tyrant and stir up her base. Every time he opens his mouth there's enough sound bite to make a new Democrap commercial against him. Either he doesn't care about winning or he's hired some REALLY stupid campaign advisors.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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SicemDawgz
It was over the moment Trump became the nominee. Hillary is able to easily paint Trump as an evil tyrant and stir up her base.
I've said this a hundred times, but it is true...
She MUST have the minority vote. Right now she does not have anything to offer them that will get them out to vote. Think Obama. She ain't dark and unlike her husband she is not at all likeable. I don't believe she will get a majority female vote either. Not many women can stand her.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
SicemDawgz
It was over the moment Trump became the nominee. Hillary is able to easily paint Trump as an evil tyrant and stir up her base. Every time he opens his mouth there's enough sound bite to make a new Democrap commercial against him. Either he doesn't care about winning or he's hired some REALLY stupid campaign advisors.
Shes doing a great job. At her rally in FL she had a total of 171 people in a venue that holds 4k. The media is so corrupt they actually adjust the camera to make people think Hillary has supporters. No one likes her. You also realize the media is straight up lying about Trump.
Trump has about 30% of the population that is sick of the corruption in DC and will walk on glass to vote for him. If the people on this board and elsewhere in the country sack up and grow a pair, Trump wins in a landslide. Trump is going to destroy Hillary in the debates which is going to be a bonus.
I am still willing to bet Trump wins!
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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maddawg
I've said this a hundred times, but it is true...
She MUST have the minority vote. Right now she does not have anything to offer them that will get them out to vote. Think Obama. She ain't dark and unlike her husband she is not at all likeable. I don't believe she will get a majority female vote either. Not many women can stand her.
And Trump must have AT LEAST what Romney got of the republican vote. He's nowhere near.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
The 2nd amendment should be enough to convince anyone who loves America to vote for Trump. She can do much damage in 4 years, much much more than he will ever do.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
If someone would have told me 12 months ago that I would not be voting against Hillary Clinton in this election I would have taken that as I would be dead by November. I can't think of one other person who could get the nomination that I wouldn't vote for. Maybe Alex Jones or Vince McMahon or Art Bell. I'd even take Gene Simmons because I'm a fan of the band. How in the hell did this happen?!
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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johnnylightnin
And Trump must have AT LEAST what Romney got of the republican vote. He's nowhere near.
More dishonest polling. Romney is the one who could not get the vote out.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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maddawg
More dishonest polling. Romney is the one who could not get the vote out.
Where do you find the honest polling? What confidence do you have that Trump will get out the vote and what is it based on? If you were asking me, I would say that your confidence is based on the primary turn-out, but history says that's not indicative of general election turn-out. How do you read it?
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
The Polls Aren’t Skewed: Trump Really Is Losing Badly
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People, though, should stick to reality. Right now, Clinton is leading in almost every single
national poll. She leads in both our
polls-plus and
polls-only forecasts. That doesn’t mean she will win. The polls have been off before, but no one knows by how much beforehand, or in which direction they’ll miss.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
Since the real race is over, how 'bout a lil speculation. What would've happened in the general election if the 'craps had the "outsider" and the Repubs the establishment candidate, like Bernie vs. Jeb Bush?
I know what I think, and will post it later. Any thoughts?
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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dawg80
Since the real race is over, how 'bout a lil speculation. What would've happened in the general election if the 'craps had the "outsider" and the Repubs the establishment candidate, like Bernie vs. Jeb Bush?
I know what I think, and will post it later. Any thoughts?
Interesting thought. I think Jeb essentially sunk the best shot at a traditional candidate by torpedoing Rubio in Florida. The democratic system all but guarantees that an outsider like Bernie will never get the nomination.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
Since the real race is over, how 'bout a lil speculation. What would've happened in the general election if the 'craps had the "outsider" and the Repubs the establishment candidate, like Bernie vs. Jeb Bush?
I know what I think, and will post it later. Any thoughts?
That was pretty much Obama vs McCain.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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johnnylightnin
Did y'all see that an actual conservative entered the race today?
looking at his website, he seems pretty "establishment" to me. with no voting record or public history available, it's hard to gauge how he would put his short, vague policy statements into action. still seems more palatable than the other options...