Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

They take smaller doses and don’t have contraindications, in general.

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I thought the doses were similar to that for lupus. Maybe twice the first day but then the same dose, though I could be wrong. They also take the medication for a shorter period of time and I would assume the doctor would address any contraindications.

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Originally Posted by detltu

Nope I'm responding to exactly what you said. "Most prescription drugs are not safe and that's why they are prescription drugs."

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You think that’s idiotic?

And I’m the one that’s “dug in”?

Ha!

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Originally Posted by MoonPieBlue

I thought the doses were similar to that for lupus. Maybe twice the first day but then the same dose, though I could be wrong. They also take the medication for a shorter period of time and I would assume the doctor would address any contraindications.

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I haven't seen the doses for Covid. Lupus is on the low end of the spectrum for dosing. RA is about 2x the lupus dose. Malaria is the highest but for a short while (for treating it), it's very low dose as a preventative. I would be surprised if the recommended dose is higher than RA.

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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

You think that’s idiotic?

And I’m the one that’s “dug in”?

Ha!

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Yes, to imply they are not safe is idiotic and disingenuous. Again, OTC drugs are dangerous if not used as directed. To say a drug that is only available with a prescription is unsafe implies that it is unsafe even when used as directed. Come out of your bunker. You guys find some of the most dumbass hills to die on sometimes.

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Originally Posted by detltu

I haven't seen the doses for Covid. Lupus is on the low end of the spectrum for dosing. RA is about 2x the lupus dose. Malaria is the highest but for a short while (for treating it), it's very low dose as a preventative. I would be surprised if the recommended dose is higher than RA.

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Here's one article that provides some dosing: https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/COVID-IHU-2-1.pdf

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Originally Posted by detltu

Yes, to imply they are not safe is idiotic and disingenuous. Again, OTC drugs are dangerous if not used as directed. To say a drug that is only available with a prescription is unsafe implies that it is unsafe even when used as directed. Come out of your bunker. You guys find some of the most dumbass hills to die on sometimes.

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Those implications are not things I said. TDSDS?

Looks like it.

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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

Those implications are not things I said. TDSDS?

Looks like it.

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"not safe"

TDS indeed.

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Originally Posted by detltu

"not safe"

TDS indeed.

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They’re not safe. That’s why they have a highly trained medical professional instructing in use.

Why do you think they are by prescription only?

You’re right, many OTC drugs are unsafe if misused (which many are).

That’s why there is a process for approved uses. This isn’t a hill to die on except for Trumpists who just want their guy to be right about SOMETHING surrounding this virus. He may be...once the process plays out, we’ll know.

And something specifically related to the thread. The Advocate goes out on a limb indicating that commuters may have help spread the virus. Can't imagine how they came up with that idea.

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_ro...29213c596.html

Looks like schools will remain closed for the remainder of the school year.

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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

Looks like schools will remain closed for the remainder of the school year.

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Curious about the LEAP test administered to 8th graders, passing of which is a requirement to move on to the 9th, and also graduating seniors from HS have to pass a similar test to be awarded a diploma. Said tests have been given in April in the past. So, I assume no 8th and 12th graders in the state have had the opportunity to take it.

I am no longer involved in K-12 education, so I will have to check on this.

Waved! all required, standarized tests, the ones that for years were the bellweather to determine if a student actually knew something, have conveniently been waved. How nice. Guess they aren't so important after all...

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Originally Posted by dawg80

April 13

21,016 cases 884 deaths testing rate at 19.4%

2,134 hosp 461 on ventilators

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April 14

21,518 cases 1,013 deaths positive testing rate at 18.2%
1,977 in hosp 436 on ventilators

Seeing some positive trends....

I was our worst day in terms of deaths though ... by a lot. I am glad to see the case load is dropping some but I think we are hitting our highs for deaths. I have noticed a Monday bump in cases and deaths each week leading into this week. Hopefully the death count today was anomalously high.

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...55&oe=5EBB90B6
Poking around at the parishes, New Orleans is seeing a much better trend. Baton Rouge is trending flatter. Rural parishes around the cities are starting to see rises in cases and deaths. That is just my assessment.

We are at 227 deaths per million in LA
Italy is 348
Spain is 386

If the US eventually ended up at that rate we have in Louisiana now (we are not done) it would be 75,000 dead. I think a lot of rural areas will be spared that rate of infection/death.

FWIW, the trend down in deaths is laboriously slow compared to the ramp up in countries like Italy and Spain. It will be interesting to see what the curve looks like towards the end.
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...01&oe=5EBAF46E

The report my wife saw said that state labs were closed over the weekend. The numbers from today are either a 2 or 3 day report.