What about feral kittens?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken_Horndawgs
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What about feral kittens?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken_Horndawgs
Why oh why must I "bump" this thread?
Oh well. Good points by a well-known author.
http://www.michaelcrichton.com/speech-complexity.html
12 Facts about Global Climate Change That You Won’t Read in the Popular Press
http://www.energytribune.com/articles.cfm?aid=970
Posted on Aug. 18, 2008
By Joseph D’Aleo
1 Temperatures have been cooling since 2002, even as carbon dioxide has continued to rise.
2 Carbon dioxide is a trace gas and by itself will produce little warming. Also, as CO2 increases, the incremental warming is less, as the effect is logarithmic so the more CO2, the less warming it produces.
3 CO2 has been totally uncorrelated with temperature over the last decade, and significantly negative since 2002.
4 CO2 is not a pollutant, but a naturally occurring gas. Together with chlorophyll and sunlight, it is an essential ingredient in photosynthesis and is, accordingly, plant food.
5 Reconstruction of paleoclimatological CO2 concentrations demonstrates that carbon dioxide concentration today is near its lowest level since the Cambrian Era some 550 million years ago, when there was almost 20 times as much CO2 in the atmosphere as there is today without causing a “runaway greenhouse effect.”
6 Temperature changes lead, not lag, CO2 changes on all time scales. The oceans may play a key role, emitting carbon dioxide when they warm as carbonated beverages lose fizz as they warm and absorbing it as they cool.
7 Most of the warming in the climate models comes from the assumption that water vapor and precipitation increase as temperatures warm, a strong positive feedback. Water vapor is a far more important greenhouse gas than CO2. However, that assumption has been shown in observations and peerreviewed research to be wrong, and in fact water vapor and precipitation act as a negative feedback that reduces any small greenhouse warming from carbon dioxide.
8 Indeed, greenhouse models show the warming should be greatest at mid to high atmosphere levels in the tropics. But balloon and satellite observations show cooling there. The greenhouse signature or DNA does not match reality, and the greenhouse models thus must greatly overstate the warming – and in a court of law would have to be acquitted of any role in global warming
9 The sun has both direct and indirect effects on our climate. Solar activity changes on cycles of 11 years and longer. When the sun is more active it is brighter and a little hotter. More important though are the indirect effects. Ultraviolet radiation increases much more than the brightness and causes increased ozone production, which generates heat in the high atmosphere that works its way down, affecting the weather. Also, an active sun diffuses cosmic rays, which play an important role in nucleation of low clouds, resulting in fewer clouds. In all these ways the sun warms the planet more when it is active. An active sun in the 1930s and again near the end of the last century helped produce the observed warming periods. The current solar cycle is the longest in over 100 years, an unmistakable sign of a cooling sun that historical patterns suggest will stay so for decades.
10 The multidecadal cycles in the ocean correlate extremely well with the solar cycles and global temperatures. These are 60 to 70 year cycles that relate to natural variations in the largescale circulations. Warm oceans correlate with warm global temperatures. The Pacific started cooling in the late 1990s and it accelerated in the last year, and the Atlantic has cooled from its peak in 2004. This supports the observed global land temperature cooling, which is strongly correlated with ocean heat content. Newly deployed N.O.A.A. buoys confirm global ocean cooling.
11 Warmer ocean cycles are periods with diminished Arctic ice cover. When the oceans were warm in the 1930s to the 1950s, Arctic ice diminished and Greenland warmed. The recent ocean warming, especially in the 1980s to the early 2000s, is similar to what took place 70 years ago and the Arctic ice has reacted much the same way, with diminished summer ice extent.
12 Antarctic ice has been increasing and the extent last year was the greatest in the satellitemonitoring era. We are running ahead of last year’s record pace. What will it take for the media to let go of their biases and begin doing their job, reporting the truth?
No Trend in Drought or Floods
http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2008/...nd-in-dro.html
Hey, that logrithmic thing is it kinda like exponential?
yeah, i think it's kinda the same, only different...Quote:
Originally Posted by CARTEK
shout out for Tropical Storm Fay! Hooray! See, not all systems are "bad". This one is going to drop some rain in alot of needed areas.
The problem the scientific community is going to have is explaining is;
a. how it formed over land
b. how is stengthened over land(TWICE, Cuba and Florida)
I have "theories" for both, but I really dont want to alarm.
i'm sure it has something to do with co2 and the republicans.Quote:
Originally Posted by altadawg
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Originally Posted by altadawg
amuse us with your wisdom
Margin of error; less than 1%. Noaa stats, sorry I dont have a link
RECORD HIGHS IN THE US SINCE 2000: 175,000
RECORD LOWS IN THE US SINCE 2000: 74,000
Oh, and remember, 1999 wasnt exactly a cool summer.....Stats just from 2000 on.
jibberishQuote:
Originally Posted by altadawg
As hard as I try, and I cant provide any evidence of cooling. Not per year, per qtr, per anything. Nor can anyone else.
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories...0815_ncdc.html
that says it all, right there.Quote:
Originally Posted by altadawg
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a typical hurricane spaghetti projection:
http://www.boatus.com/hurricanes/hur..._spaghetti.asp
a relatively localized event.
How accurate do you think that global climate projections are for tomorrow, next week, next year, next decade, etc.