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Barr was asked yesterday in El Salvador by Bill Hemmer what he thought about the democrats calling him a liar. His reply, "that's laughable". Three of the 4 requests for the FISA warrants were secured with false information, most likely the "fake dossier." Comey, Brennen, and Clapper are now trying to blame the other about who authorized the fake dossier. This is the first time in the history of our country that a president was spied on in his campaign by the current president and his administration.
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Don’t hold up to what? What can possibly refute either statement?
The investigation into Hillary Clinton was over before it began. I will grant you they made it public when they shouldn't have, but they only made it public to announce they were not going to charge her with anything.
Trumps campaign was being spied on (or surveilled if you prefer) before the special council was appointed. I guess we will find out if he obstructed justice and if that is what prompted the special council. Seems like the whole thing could have been over right then if he obstructed justice back then.
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The investigation into Hillary Clinton was over before it began. I will grant you they made it public when they shouldn't have, but they only made it public to announce they were not going to charge her with anything.
Trumps campaign was being spied on (or surveilled if you prefer) before the special council was appointed. I guess we will find out if he obstructed justice and if that is what prompted the special council. Seems like the whole thing could have been over right then if he obstructed justice back then.
Why did they reopen the investigation if it were not on the up and up?
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Trumps campaign was being spied on (or surveilled if you prefer) before the special council was appointed. I guess we will find out if he obstructed justice and if that is what prompted the special council. Seems like the whole thing could have been over right then if he obstructed justice back then.
If you read the Mueller report, the FBI had every reason to be watching certain shady figures in Trump’s campaign.
The firing of Comey is was caused the special counsel investigation. The mixed explanations for the firing, one of which was because Comey wouldn’t end “the Russia thing” brought on this investigation.
Rosenstein said he believes a special counsel "is necessary in order for the American people to have full confidence in the outcome."
"In my capacity as acting attorney general, I determined that it is in the public interest for me to exercise my authority and appoint a Special Counsel to assume responsibility for this matter," Rosenstein said in a statement, adding that the decision is "not a finding that crimes have been committed or that any prosecution is warranted."
"What I have determined is that based upon the unique circumstances, the public interest requires me to place this investigation under the authority of a person who exercises a degree of independence from the normal chain of command," Rosenstein said.
That is how we got here. Trump acted improperly and violated the law, “endeavoring to obstruct” the investigation all along the way. Only Congress can hold him accountable and uphold the idea that the POTUS is not above the law. Mueller prepared them the roadmap in his report.
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Hey, look! A responsible Republican!
Justin Amash, good for you.
“Contrary to Barr's portrayal, Mueller's report reveals that President Trump engaged in specific actions and a pattern of behavior that meet the threshold for impeachment."
“Here are my principal conclusions:
1. Attorney General Barr has deliberately misrepresented Mueller’s report.
2. President Trump has engaged in impeachable conduct.
3. Partisanship has eroded our system of checks and balances.
4. Few members of Congress have read the report.”
Amash said on Saturday that he made his conclusions "only after having read Mueller's redacted report carefully and completely, having read or watched pertinent statements and testimony, and having discussed this matter with my staff, who thoroughly reviewed materials and provided me with further analysis."
"Barr's misrepresentations are significant but often subtle, frequently taking the form of sleight-of-hand qualifications or logical fallacies, which he hopes people will not notice," Amash said.
“When loyalty to a political party or to an individual trumps loyalty to the Constitution, the Rule of Law -- the foundation of liberty -- crumbles."
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Amash also said “Mueller’s report identifies multiple examples of conduct satisfying all the elements of obstruction of justice, and undoubtedly any person who is not the president of the United States would be indicted based on such evidence.”
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Amash also said “Mueller’s report identifies multiple examples of conduct satisfying all the elements of obstruction of justice, and undoubtedly any person who is not the president of the United States would be indicted based on such evidence.”
Your hate for President Trump is so over the top that you are not capable of rational thought with anything that concerns President Trump. You should just take a few deep breaths and try to relax whenever you feel one of your Trump derangement syndrome fits coming on. None of your ranting will ever make a bit of difference to anyone. Your opinion is worth no more than that of the dumbest redneck in Lincoln Parish. Nothing you ever say will change the fact that President Trump will likely serve for eight years and before he's finished, he'll totally change the balance of the US Supreme Court as well as the makeup of all 12 regional circuits of federal court judges in America.
Attorney General William Barr's opinion is the one that matters. He will be the one to finish this, and he'll do it in a way that reaffirms the rule of law in America. Though many of your heroes will be going to jail, you should celebrate the fact that once AG Barr is done, there will no longer be two systems of justice in this nation.
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Your hate for President Trump is so over the top that you are not capable of rational thought with anything that concerns President Trump. You should just take a few deep breaths and try to relax whenever you feel one of your Trump derangement syndrome fits coming on. None of your ranting will ever make a bit of difference to anyone. Your opinion is worth no more than that of the dumbest redneck in Lincoln Parish. Nothing you ever say will change the fact that President Trump will likely serve for eight years and before he's finished, he'll totally change the balance of the US Supreme Court as well as the makeup of all 12 regional circuits of federal court judges in America.
Attorney General William Barr's opinion is the one that matters. He will be the one to finish this, and he'll do it in a way that reaffirms the rule of law in America. Though many of your heroes will be going to jail, you should celebrate the fact that once AG Barr is done, there will no longer be two systems of justice in this nation.
Still haven’t read the report have you? If not, your opinion is more ignorant than mine.
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Still haven’t read the report have you? If not, your opinion is more ignorant than mine.
The Mueller report is a democratic report written for democrats, and gullible people like you. All those democrats investigating and could not come up with a single legitimate charge. Spin it all you want, it’s nothing burger.
Yes, I’ve read the report, and I know how to use the control-F function. But keep wasting your time posting excerpts with your incorrect interpretations.
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The Mueller report is a democratic report written for democrats, and gullible people like you. All those democrats investigating and could not come up with a single legitimate charge. Spin it all you want, it’s nothing burger.
Yes, I’ve read the report, and I know how to use the control-F function. But keep wasting your time posting excerpts with your incorrect interpretations.
You already lied about reading the report once. Are you telling the truth this time?
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Still haven’t read the report have you? If not, your opinion is more ignorant than mine.
Neither of our opinions make a bit of difference. AG Barr's opinion is the only one that matters, and we all heard him say that spying took place. The DOJ is now conductng a proper investigation into the matter. If illegal chicanery was involved, there will be consequences for those responsible. This should make you very proud of your chosen profession.
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AG Barr's opinion is the only one that matters, and we all heard him say that spying took place. The DOJ is now conductng a proper investigation into the matter. If illegal chicanery was involved, there will be consequences for those responsible. This should make you very proud of your chosen profession.
Wrong. Congress’s opinion is the only one that matters. Barr, and the recent view of the DOJ, is that they can’t charge a sitting president with a crime. Period.
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Well, for me, I don't trust anyone! And I mean ANYONE! So, I certainly don't trust those involved in politics, who are lawyers (egad!), and especially anyone rooted in The Swamp. And that includes all, regardless if they have a (D) or an (R) behind their name. It's a case of the "lesser of two evils" which is why I did not vote for Trump, even though I pulled the lever for him, I voted against Krooked Killary.
Now, after seeing the great job Trump is doing for our nation, I feel a little better voting for him. Even though, again, I will be voting against the socialist pig-dog the Dems will nominate, whoever that'll be.
Clearly the whole Russia-collusion mess is nothing more than a partisan attempt to undo the 2016 election. How many more people, with an anti-Trump lean, have to say "there is no "there" there" before morons move on? Rod Rosentein said, over a year ago, "no Americans were involved in the Russian attempts to tamper with the 2016 election." What part of "no Americans" don't you understand?
BUT! I will hasten to add, that Krooked Killary and the DNC did illegally engage with those Ukranian operatives, and that Steele dude, and while not directly engaged with the Russians themselves, the Ukranians were.
At this point I say let American voters...only those who are true citizens and can prove it...decide who the next POTUS will be.
And this thread is about the POTUS election 2020. Focus on that. Thanks.
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How can there be obstruction of justice when there never was a crime? I'm not at all surprised that Mueller and his 15 democrat lawyers wrote this report with a very slanted opinion against the President. But, the AG's ruling is the one that counts. Remember when Holder said he was Obama's wing man and that didn't bother anybody.
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Guisslapp
Wrong. Congress’s opinion is the only one that matters. Barr, and the recent view of the DOJ, is that they can’t charge a sitting president with a crime. Period.
Keep kidding yourself if you want to, but you'll soon see just how much Barr's opinion does, in fact, matter.
The Mueller report was put together by partisan Democrats. You know this, yet you base your entire opinion on the biased report that Robert Mueller's entirely partisan Democrat team put together. That POS report is nothing more than a radically biased Democrat hit piece. If there was any way those Democrat partisans could have pinned a crime on President Trump, they certainly would have. After two and a half years of searching, they couldn't find a thing that they could pin on the president. You've got nothing Guisslapp. Time to give it up. You and your side lost to President Trump again. You ought to be getting used to it by now.
Like I've already said, AG Barr is about to put many of the lying traitors that put this whole hoax together on trial for high crimes and treason. We'll find out then exactly what role each traitor played in this whole sordid affair.
