More persecution of Christians

Some good facts and a very valid point IMHO.

Jesus to America: 'Why do you persecute me?'

U.S. foreign policy blamed for deaths of Christians worldwide


Analysts and human-rights groups claim U. S. foreign policy is responsible for the destruction of the Middle East’s Christian communities.
The reasoning says the U. S. government’s assistance of the radical elements in the “Arab Spring” has wreaked havoc with the region’s Christians.

The Vatican’s official news service Fides says events in Syria are proof U. S. policy and its support of jihadists is contributing to the death of the country’s Christians.

Fides reports, “Radical Islamist groups in the ranks of the revolutionaries sow terror among civilians in Damascus. Those who pay the consequences are those considered ‘loyalists,’ loyal to the regime of Bashar al Assad.”
“Among the victims, report Fides sources in Damascus, there are also Christians of the suburb of Bab Touma and Iraqi refugees who occupied the suburbs of Oujaira and Sada Zanaim,” Fides reported.
The human-rights group, Open Doors, USA analyst and spokesman Jerry Dykstra says Syrian Christians are experiencing very harsh conditions.
“In Syria, the future of 1.5 million Christians is bleak if President Bashar al-Assad is forced out of office by the rebel force. Under Assad Christians enjoyed a measure of freedom to worship,” Dkystra said.
“Already many Christians have been targeted by the Free Syrian Army, which reportedly includes al-Qaeda-style jihadists and Muslim Brotherhood members. Christians likely would face even more reprisal should Assad fall. Some Christians have already fled to Lebanon or Iraq, and there would be a mass exodus if the rebels take control,” Dykstra said.



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Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS

Some good facts and a very valid point IMHO.

Jesus to America: 'Why do you persecute me?'

U.S. foreign policy blamed for deaths of Christians worldwide


Analysts and human-rights groups claim U. S. foreign policy is responsible for the destruction of the Middle East’s Christian communities.
The reasoning says the U. S. government’s assistance of the radical elements in the “Arab Spring” has wreaked havoc with the region’s Christians.

The Vatican’s official news service Fides says events in Syria are proof U. S. policy and its support of jihadists is contributing to the death of the country’s Christians.

Fides reports, “Radical Islamist groups in the ranks of the revolutionaries sow terror among civilians in Damascus. Those who pay the consequences are those considered ‘loyalists,’ loyal to the regime of Bashar al Assad.”
“Among the victims, report Fides sources in Damascus, there are also Christians of the suburb of Bab Touma and Iraqi refugees who occupied the suburbs of Oujaira and Sada Zanaim,” Fides reported.
The human-rights group, Open Doors, USA analyst and spokesman Jerry Dykstra says Syrian Christians are experiencing very harsh conditions.
“In Syria, the future of 1.5 million Christians is bleak if President Bashar al-Assad is forced out of office by the rebel force. Under Assad Christians enjoyed a measure of freedom to worship,” Dkystra said.
“Already many Christians have been targeted by the Free Syrian Army, which reportedly includes al-Qaeda-style jihadists and Muslim Brotherhood members. Christians likely would face even more reprisal should Assad fall. Some Christians have already fled to Lebanon or Iraq, and there would be a mass exodus if the rebels take control,” Dykstra said.



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A much better leadership in Egypt right Obama and Hillary?? What a bunch of foreign policy losers as well at the top of the Socialist/Democrap party.

Not only Christians but others as well. The worst is reserved for the Christians the article states.

ARAB SPRING RUN AMOK: 'BROTHERHOOD' STARTS CRUCIFIXIONS

Opponents of Egypt's Muslim president executed 'naked on trees'


The Arab Spring takeover of Egypt by the Muslim Brotherhood has run amok, with reports from several different media agencies that the radical Muslims have begun crucifying opponents of newly installed President Mohammed Morsi.
Middle East media confirm that during a recent rampage, Muslim Brotherhood operatives “crucified those opposing Egyptian President Muhammad Morsi naked on trees in front of the presidential palace while abusing others.”

Raymond Ibrahim, a fellow with the Middle East Forum and the Investigative Project on Terrorism, said the crucifixions are the product of who the Middle Eastern media call “partisans.”“Arabic media call them ‘supporters,’ ‘followers’ and ‘partisans’ of the Muslim Brotherhood,” Ibraham said.
Ibrahim also says the victims can be anyone, including Egyptian Christians.
“It’s anyone who is resisting the new government,” Ibrahim said. “In this particular case, the people attacked and crucified were secular protesters upset because of Morsi’s hostile campaign against the media, especially of Tawfik Okasha, who was constantly exposing him on his station, until Morsi shut him down.”
Ibrahim said extra brutality is reserved for Christians, but the crucifixions are because of Islamic doctrine and are required by the Quran. The time and other details about the crucifixions were not readily available.
Center for Security Policy Senior Fellow Clare Lopez cited chapter and verse from the Quran to explain that crucifixions are not simply normal for Islam, they’re demanded.“Crucifixion is a hadd punishment, stipulated in the Quran, Sura 5:33, and therefore an obligatory part of Shariah,” Lopez said. “It’s been a traditional punishment within Islam since the beginning, even though it’s not exclusively Islamic. The Romans used it too.
“So, the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood haven’t the option to notinclude crucifixion within their legal code. It’s obligatory to comply with Shariah. And yes, it’s for shock value also to be sure,” Lopez said.
Lopez includes a warning for Egypt’s Christians and compares the coming treatment of the Christians to the Jews in Germany.
“The Copts must get out of Egypt as soon as possible – for the many millions who will not be able to get out, I expect things will continue to deteriorate – just as they did for Germany’s and Europe’s Jews from the 1930s onward,” Lopez said.
“The warnings were there long before the ghettos and round-ups and one-way train trips to the concentration camps began in the 1
http://www.wnd.com/2012/08/arab-spri...-crucifixions/

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Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS

A much better leadership in Egypt right Obama and Hillary?? What a bunch of foreign policy losers as well at the top of the Socialist/Democrap party.

Not only Christians but others as well. The worst is reserved for the Christians the article states.

ARAB SPRING RUN AMOK: 'BROTHERHOOD' STARTS CRUCIFIXIONS

Opponents of Egypt's Muslim president executed 'naked on trees'


The Arab Spring takeover of Egypt by the Muslim Brotherhood has run amok, with reports from several different media agencies that the radical Muslims have begun crucifying opponents of newly installed President Mohammed Morsi.
Middle East media confirm that during a recent rampage, Muslim Brotherhood operatives “crucified those opposing Egyptian President Muhammad Morsi naked on trees in front of the presidential palace while abusing others.”

Raymond Ibrahim, a fellow with the Middle East Forum and the Investigative Project on Terrorism, said the crucifixions are the product of who the Middle Eastern media call “partisans.”“Arabic media call them ‘supporters,’ ‘followers’ and ‘partisans’ of the Muslim Brotherhood,” Ibraham said.
Ibrahim also says the victims can be anyone, including Egyptian Christians.
“It’s anyone who is resisting the new government,” Ibrahim said. “In this particular case, the people attacked and crucified were secular protesters upset because of Morsi’s hostile campaign against the media, especially of Tawfik Okasha, who was constantly exposing him on his station, until Morsi shut him down.”
Ibrahim said extra brutality is reserved for Christians, but the crucifixions are because of Islamic doctrine and are required by the Quran. The time and other details about the crucifixions were not readily available.
Center for Security Policy Senior Fellow Clare Lopez cited chapter and verse from the Quran to explain that crucifixions are not simply normal for Islam, they’re demanded.“Crucifixion is a hadd punishment, stipulated in the Quran, Sura 5:33, and therefore an obligatory part of Shariah,” Lopez said. “It’s been a traditional punishment within Islam since the beginning, even though it’s not exclusively Islamic. The Romans used it too.
“So, the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood haven’t the option to notinclude crucifixion within their legal code. It’s obligatory to comply with Shariah. And yes, it’s for shock value also to be sure,” Lopez said.
Lopez includes a warning for Egypt’s Christians and compares the coming treatment of the Christians to the Jews in Germany.
“The Copts must get out of Egypt as soon as possible – for the many millions who will not be able to get out, I expect things will continue to deteriorate – just as they did for Germany’s and Europe’s Jews from the 1930s onward,” Lopez said.
“The warnings were there long before the ghettos and round-ups and one-way train trips to the concentration camps began in the 1
http://www.wnd.com/2012/08/arab-spri...-crucifixions/

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I see this seems to matter not to many on BB&B.

How about this one per a young Down's syndrome girl? We need to be in constant prayer over Christian persecution as it is ramping up worldwide.



Pakistan orders report into 'disabled Christian girl's blasphemy case'

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Christians argue they are often falsely accused of blasphemy

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• Q&A: Pakistan's controversial blasphemy laws
• Rights activist on girl's 'trauma'
• Climate of fear over Pakistan blasphemy laws

Pakistan's president has ordered a report into the arrest of a young Christian girl, reportedly with mental impairments, accused of desecrating pages of the Koran.
Police say the girl was arrested last week in a Christian area of the capital, Islamabad, after a furious crowd demanded she be punished.
Officials said the girl could not properly answer police questions.
Her parents have been taken into protective custody following threats.
Many other Christian families have fled the neighbourhood after unrest erupted. Reports say that police arrested her under pressure from the large crowd.
But there are conflicting reports about the details of the incident.
It is unclear whether the girl burned pages of the Koran or if she was found with pages of the Koran in a bag.
Christian leaders say she is as young as 11 but police quoted in some media reports also say she may be older and that she had no mental impairments.
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She is an innocent child - she doesn't even know what she did. She is in a state of shock”

Xavier P William Human rights activist

• The girl's 'trauma'

Some Christian groups suggested that the girl has Down's syndrome, which is a congenital condition that causes various degrees of learning difficulties and certain physical abnormalitie

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It's not that no one cares, it's that there isn't a single legitimate source reporting it.

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Originally Posted by JuBru

It's not that no one cares, it's that there isn't a single legitimate source reporting it.

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Keep believing that why don't you. :icon_roll: Fox and yes even CNN is reporting it!!! :furious3: Both of which I posted and my other sources are accurate as well!!! Just because my other source was a Christian news source you choose not to believe it????

Christian girl with Down syndrome could face death penalty over burning of Islamic text in Pakistan

Published August 20, 2012
FoxNews.com

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A Christian girl with Down syndrome could be punished by death in Pakistan after she was spotted holding burned pages of Islamic text in public, activists and police say.
The girl, identified by police as Rimsha, was arrested on blasphemy charges and is being detained in Islamabad ahead of a court appearance before the end of the month, AFP reports.
Defaming Islam, the Koran or the Prophet Muhammed is a capital offense in Pakistan.
Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari has ordered his Interior Ministry to investigate the arrest, the Los Angeles Times reportshttp://global.fncstatic.com/static/v...ernal-link.png.
After the incident, religious tensions and rallies involving Muslim protesters forced Christians to temporarily flee Mehrabad, the Islamabad neighborhood where Rimsha resides, a senior official of All Pakistan Minorities Alliance told AFP.
A Pakistani police officer, Zabi Ullah, said Monday that the girl was arrested Thursday after hundreds of neighbors, angry over reports she had allegedly burned religious papers, gathered outside her house.
"About 500-600 people had gathered outside her house in Islamabad, and they were very emotional, angry, and they might have harmed her if we had not quickly reacted," he said.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/08...#ixzz247EhOp54

Girl held in Pakistan, accused of burning Quran pages

By Katie Hunt and Nasir Habib, CNN
updated 11:41 AM EDT, Mon August 20, 2012


(CNN) -- An 11-year-old Christian girl has been arrested after being accused of blasphemy by burning pages of the Quran in Pakistan's capital, Islamabad.
According to a statement released by the president's office Sunday, the girl, identified as Ramsha, was accused by a local resident of burning pages of the Muslim holy text after she gathered paper as fuel for cooking.
Local media reports said the girl has Down syndrome. CNN was unable to confirm these reports, and a local police official said they are not true.
Qasim Niazi, the police officer in charge of the station near where the incident took place, said the girl does not have a mental disorder but is illiterate and has not attended school.
The accused girl had told him she had no idea there were pages of the Quran inside the documents she burned, he added.



http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/20/world/...html?hpt=hp_t2

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Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS

Keep believing that why don't you. :icon_roll:

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WND and debka are not legitimate sources for breaking news or anything else that hasn't already happened.

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Originally Posted by JuBru

WND and debka are not legitimate sources for breaking news or anything else that hasn't already happened.

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So if it's a Christian or Jewish web site you won't believe it??? :bomb: You've been proven wrong time and time again over this one. They provide a valuable service by not being afraid to print what others will not and they're not afraid to be the first. Is that it? They're Christian and Jewish backed sites?? Fox and CNN reported this as well.

http://www.latechbbb.com/forum/showt...85#post1257785

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Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS

So if it's a Christian or Jewish web site you won't believe it??? :bomb: You've been proven wrong time and time again over this one. They provide a valuable service by not being afraid to print what others will not and they're not afraid to be the first. Is that it? They're Christian and Jewish backed sites??

http://www.latechbbb.com/forum/showt...85#post1257785

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No. I do read Times of Israel. I also read something from the IDF. I do not read Chrisitan sites, but that doesn't mean I rule WND out because it is Christian. I rule it out because it isn't a news site.

You have never proven me wrong on this. WND and debka are not legitimate sources for breaking news or anything else that hasn't already happened. If you want their stuff to be believed, you have to provide other sources that actually know what they are talking about. One sliver of truth in an article full of bullshit does not legitimize the whole article.


How leftist of you to think someone who may not agree on everything with you is a bigot, anti-Semite, etc. etc. etc.:icon_roll:

Right :icon_roll:

I have been part of a similar event as we handed out free water on move in day on a college campus. People really appreciate it I can tell you. I bet they would have allowed a lib democrat or atheist group to hand out free condoms or water for that matter.

http://www.abc15.com//dpp/news/regio...in-summer-heat

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I have been part of a similar event as we handed out free water on move in day on a college campus. People really appreciate it I can tell you. I bet they would have allowed a lib democrat or atheist group to hand out free condoms or water for that matter.

http://www.abc15.com//dpp/news/regio...in-summer-heat

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That is crap for them to do that, but it wouldn't have mattered what people were handing out it was against their policy but that policy sucks. If people wanna hand out water or condoms for that matter it should never have one thing said about it.
Wow Phoenix sucks for doing that and I know it is a small minority that had an issue with it but still looks bad on all of them.

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Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS

Keep believing that why don't you. :icon_roll: Fox and yes even CNN is reporting it!!! :furious3: Both of which I posted and my other sources are accurate as well!!! Just because my other source was a Christian news source you choose not to believe it????

Christian girl with Down syndrome could face death penalty over burning of Islamic text in Pakistan

Published August 20, 2012
FoxNews.com

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Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/08...#ixzz247EUhlPa

A Christian girl with Down syndrome could be punished by death in Pakistan after she was spotted holding burned pages of Islamic text in public, activists and police say.
The girl, identified by police as Rimsha, was arrested on blasphemy charges and is being detained in Islamabad ahead of a court appearance before the end of the month, AFP reports.
Defaming Islam, the Koran or the Prophet Muhammed is a capital offense in Pakistan.
Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari has ordered his Interior Ministry to investigate the arrest, the Los Angeles Times reportshttp://global.fncstatic.com/static/v...ernal-link.png.
After the incident, religious tensions and rallies involving Muslim protesters forced Christians to temporarily flee Mehrabad, the Islamabad neighborhood where Rimsha resides, a senior official of All Pakistan Minorities Alliance told AFP.
A Pakistani police officer, Zabi Ullah, said Monday that the girl was arrested Thursday after hundreds of neighbors, angry over reports she had allegedly burned religious papers, gathered outside her house.
"About 500-600 people had gathered outside her house in Islamabad, and they were very emotional, angry, and they might have harmed her if we had not quickly reacted," he said.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/08...#ixzz247EhOp54

Girl held in Pakistan, accused of burning Quran pages

By Katie Hunt and Nasir Habib, CNN
updated 11:41 AM EDT, Mon August 20, 2012


(CNN) -- An 11-year-old Christian girl has been arrested after being accused of blasphemy by burning pages of the Quran in Pakistan's capital, Islamabad.
According to a statement released by the president's office Sunday, the girl, identified as Ramsha, was accused by a local resident of burning pages of the Muslim holy text after she gathered paper as fuel for cooking.
Local media reports said the girl has Down syndrome. CNN was unable to confirm these reports, and a local police official said they are not true.
Qasim Niazi, the police officer in charge of the station near where the incident took place, said the girl does not have a mental disorder but is illiterate and has not attended school.
The accused girl had told him she had no idea there were pages of the Quran inside the documents she burned, he added.



http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/20/world/...html?hpt=hp_t2

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I actually saw this on CNN and Fox both with them speaking about it, absolutely disgusting to do anyone this way especially a helpless child.

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I actually saw this on CNN and Fox both with them speaking about it, absolutely disgusting to do anyone this way especially a helpless child.

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Exactly!!

Christians victims of rising 'hostility' from gov't and Christians victims of rising 'hostility' from gov't and secular groups, report says
Published August 26, 2012FoxNews.com

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/24...est=latestnews

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Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS

Christians victims of rising 'hostility' from gov't and Christians victims of rising 'hostility' from gov't and secular groups, report says
Published August 26, 2012FoxNews.com

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/24...est=latestnews

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These are all silly except for the nurse. That is the only one that I can somewhat understand where that could even begin to happen.

The nurse should not ever allow herself to be put in the position where ANY type surgery of any kind or any type of out patient procedure should be taking place so that under any circumstance this could ever happen.

The others are just stupid for people to have made an issue over but then again I was threatened with my job because my kids prayed on the floor in a public school. I told the school to do what they were big enough to do and it wasn't ever an issue any more. The kids wanted to pray and they prayed.