Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?
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Originally Posted by
The Historian
...and BYU appears unwilling to relent on its stance on not playing on Sundays, which will likely be a condition for the invitation.
I read somewhere a few months ago that this has already been discussed in the Big 12 and it is not a problem for the conference. I don't think it had to do with BYU so much as to any school that did have a issue with it. Obviously, that would perhaps only apply to Baylor, but I don't think they care either.
UPDATE:
According to Delany, the Big 11 wants to go south!
"If the Big Ten decides to expand, commissioner Jim Delany said the league hopes to get some southern exposure. A few more eyes on the TV would be nice, too.
Delany said gaining a foothold in the South and extending the reach of the league's lucrative television network are the two biggest factors as it decides whether to grow."
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...html?eref=sihp
Florida and Alabama to the Big 11????? Hahahahahah!
Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?
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Originally Posted by
hookdown
I read somewhere a few months ago that this has already been discussed in the Big 12 and it is not a problem for the conference. I don't think it had to do with BYU so much as to any school that did have a issue with it. Obviously, that would perhaps only apply to Baylor, but I don't think they care either.
UPDATE:
According to Delany, the Big 11 wants to go south!
"If the Big Ten decides to expand, commissioner Jim Delany said the league hopes to get some southern exposure. A few more eyes on the TV would be nice, too.
Delany said gaining a foothold in the South and extending the reach of the league's lucrative television network are the two biggest factors as it decides whether to grow."
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...html?eref=sihp
Florida and Alabama to the Big 11????? Hahahahahah!
Virginia and N. Carolina would make sense geographically and academically.
Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?
http://chronicle.com/article/As-AAU-...Tech-to/65200/
And Georgia Tech just became an AAU member. NC State is not a member but is pushing for membership.
"The AAU is the pre-eminent research-intensive membership group," says William R. (Randy) Woodson, North Carolina State's chancellor. "To be a part of that organization is something N.C. State aspires to."
Very interesting. Georgia Tech had all the qualifications of an AAU member decades ago but apparently never pursued membership until this year. Why now?
Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?
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Originally Posted by
hookdown
I read somewhere a few months ago that this has already been discussed in the Big 12 and it is not a problem for the conference. I don't think it had to do with BYU so much as to any school that did have a issue with it. Obviously, that would perhaps only apply to Baylor, but I don't think they care either.
UPDATE:
According to Delany, the Big 11 wants to go south!
"If the Big Ten decides to expand, commissioner Jim Delany said the league hopes to get some southern exposure. A few more eyes on the TV would be nice, too.
Delany said gaining a foothold in the South and extending the reach of the league's lucrative television network are the two biggest factors as it decides whether to grow."
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...html?eref=sihp
Florida and Alabama to the Big 11????? Hahahahahah!
Maybe it'll be us :icon_wink:
Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...xpansion-plans
More from the Big 10 meetings. Dennis Dodd of CBS has a good point. Delany might have brought up the migration to the SunBelt not to expand in the South but to justify to his Presidents the need to add schools to the conference.
"I think that is reason by itself enough to look at the concept of expansion," Delany said. "I say it for the following reason: We've been blessed in many ways by the economy and density of the population in the 20th century. Our schools have benefitted by healthy economies, by strong job markets, by growth, by immigration. In the U.S. the population started off on the East Coast and moved to the Midwest. In the last 20 or 30 years, it's been a clear shift to movement into the Sun Belt. "
That can mean a couple of things in this increasingly mystifying expansion process. Texas -- located in one of those Sun Belt boom states -- could still be in play. Or, more likely, the Big Ten is intent on adding pure volume -- grabbing schools from Missouri, New York and New Jersey to address that drain. Or, as Delany keeps reminding us, do nothing at all.
Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?
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Originally Posted by
The Historian
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...xpansion-plans
More from the Big 10 meetings. Dennis Dodd of CBS has a good point. Delany might have brought up the migration to the SunBelt not to expand in the South but to justify to his Presidents the need to add schools to the conference.
"I think that is reason by itself enough to look at the concept of expansion," Delany said. "I say it for the following reason: We've been blessed in many ways by the economy and density of the population in the 20th century. Our schools have benefitted by healthy economies, by strong job markets, by growth, by immigration. In the U.S. the population started off on the East Coast and moved to the Midwest. In the last 20 or 30 years, it's been a clear shift to movement into the Sun Belt. "
That can mean a couple of things in this increasingly mystifying expansion process. Texas -- located in one of those Sun Belt boom states -- could still be in play. Or, more likely, the Big Ten is intent on adding pure volume -- grabbing schools from Missouri, New York and New Jersey to address that drain. Or, as Delany keeps reminding us, do nothing at all.
After all the rhetoric, they will do nothing at all only if there is nothing at all they can do.
Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?
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Originally Posted by
The Historian
http://chronicle.com/article/As-AAU-...Tech-to/65200/
And Georgia Tech just became an AAU member. NC State is not a member but is pushing for membership.
"The AAU is the pre-eminent research-intensive membership group," says William R. (Randy) Woodson, North Carolina State's chancellor. "To be a part of that organization is something N.C. State aspires to."
Very interesting. Georgia Tech had all the qualifications of an AAU member decades ago but apparently never pursued membership until this year. Why now?
The other day ESPN mentioned that the Big Ten is looking at Georgia Tech and Vanderbilt.
Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?
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Originally Posted by
1L_dawg
i would rather all of this shake down in 12-18 months than in the next 1-2 months.
a winning season and a bowl win will only help us in our pitch to another conference. throw in the breaking of ground on the south endzone project, and we should have some very positive buzz in 12-18 mths.
That wouldn't be so great for Tech... Boise will most likely be gone. And with all of these state budget cuts, we may drop back down a tier academically in USNWR, and I think that is one of our biggest assets right now. It also gives over programs an opportunity to improve their resumes as well. The sooner this happens, the better for Tech.
Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?
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Originally Posted by
The Historian
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...xpansion-plans
More from the Big 10 meetings. Dennis Dodd of CBS has a good point. Delany might have brought up the migration to the SunBelt not to expand in the South but to justify to his Presidents the need to add schools to the conference.
"I think that is reason by itself enough to look at the concept of expansion," Delany said. "I say it for the following reason: We've been blessed in many ways by the economy and density of the population in the 20th century. Our schools have benefitted by healthy economies, by strong job markets, by growth, by immigration. In the U.S. the population started off on the East Coast and moved to the Midwest. In the last 20 or 30 years, it's been a clear shift to movement into the Sun Belt. "
That can mean a couple of things in this increasingly mystifying expansion process. Texas -- located in one of those Sun Belt boom states -- could still be in play. Or, more likely, the Big Ten is intent on adding pure volume -- grabbing schools from Missouri, New York and New Jersey to address that drain. Or, as Delany keeps reminding us, do nothing at all.
His point is logical, but it doesn't make sense in the long run.
He is correct that the economy of the midwest is likely to be drastically different in the 21st century than it was in the 20th. But, that also means that their budgets might not be what they were. In that case, paying for non-revenue sports to travel from State College, PA to Austin, TX would be painful. The same is true for all other Big 10 schools.
I thought I saw a comment the other day that Big 10 ADs were concerned about covering travel costs. I could be confusing that with another conference, since there has been speculation about all of them lately.
Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?
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Originally Posted by
Dawg06
The other day ESPN mentioned that the Big Ten is looking at Georgia Tech and Vanderbilt.
That would be a shocker if they were invited. Academically, they fit in very well, but neither is that much of a power in any sport. Wonder how the SEC would feel about it? On one hand, they lose a member, but on the other, arguably their weakest member... I think they might retaliate by taking the big four from the Big 12 and adding someone from the ACC.
Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?
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Originally Posted by
hookdown
That would be a shocker if they were invited. Academically, they fit in very well, but neither is that much of a power in any sport. Wonder how the SEC would feel about it? On one hand, they lose a member, but on the other, arguably their weakest member... I think they might retaliate by taking the big four from the Big 12 and adding someone from the ACC.
I don't see why Vandy would leave.
Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?
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Originally Posted by
Dawg06
That wouldn't be so great for Tech... Boise will most likely be gone. And with all of these state budget cuts, we may drop back down a tier academically in USNWR, and I think that is one of our biggest assets right now. It also gives over programs an opportunity to improve their resumes as well. The sooner this happens, the better for Tech.
i see your point. however, IMO, the further we are from the Tech program that CUSA shunned a few short years ago, the better off we are.
Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?
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1L_dawg
i see your point. however, IMO, the further we are from the Tech program that CUSA shunned a few short years ago, the better off we are.
Yeah, but the longer we wait, the more potent our competition will be. IMO, the sooner the better for Tech and cusa.
Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?
Beating the snot out of USM is a good start.:)
Re: Possible Big 10 Expansion Sooner Than Expected?
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champion110
I don't see why Vandy would leave.
1) Slightly more money
2) Better academic fit
3) Easier competition
I'm not too sure about the first one, but if I were a Vandy fan I'd be all for going to the Big Ten. I just don't think the Big Ten would be very interested in them, since academics don't bring in big bucks.
