Immigration

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Originally Posted by brtransplant

Why must you always eventually resort to name calling? What is it with you and your need to put a label on everybody that disagrees with your twisted view of how a free republic should be governed?

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I am not the one that called someone invader.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

I am not the one that called someone invader.

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No, I am not a white nationalist. If people are coming to our country illegally, especially en masse, I say they are invading our country. No political connotation was intended. It is just common sense to me. Why is it even an issue? Their is a legal option to visit our country and become an American citizen.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

“Invaders” is the language of white nationalists. Are you one of those?

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Your simplistic way of thinking (with your dumb "dog whistles" and other ignorant ways of categorizing people into nice definable tribes) is most often employed by Asian transgender Islamofacist Nazi terrorists. Are you one of those?

Agree with me....or I'll call you a bad name. Right?

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Originally Posted by stodgdog

No, I am not a white nationalist. If people are coming to our country illegally, especially en masse, I say they are invading our country. No political connotation was intended. It is just common sense to me. Why is it even an issue? Their is a legal option to visit our country and become an American citizen.

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66% came legally and overstayed their visa. That’s not an invasion...only propagandists call it that.

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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

66% came legally and overstayed their visa. That’s not an invasion...only propagandists call it that.

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Accepting your stat, that still means 34% invaded across the border. And, more importantly, that situation is getting worse.

I don't see how any self-respecting American can defend illegal immigration. There is not a single redeeming quality about it. Nada!

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Originally Posted by dawg80

Accepting your stat, that still means 34% invaded across the border. And, more importantly, that situation is getting worse.

I don't see how any self-respecting American can defend illegal immigration. There is not a single redeeming quality about it. Nada!

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AND....the 66% have decided to ignore our laws and just do what they want. Sounds like we have the makings of some great law-abiding Americans there.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

Accepting your stat, that still means 34% invaded across the border. And, more importantly, that situation is getting worse.

I don't see how any self-respecting American can defend illegal immigration. There is not a single redeeming quality about it. Nada!

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No one is defending illegal immigration. Dehumanizing white nationalist rhetoric has to be called out, though.

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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

66% came legally and overstayed their visa. That’s not an invasion...only propagandists call it that.

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In nature, we call a non-native species in an environment an invasive species. It matters not how it got there, it's still an invasive species. An immigrant that overstays his visa becomes an illegal immigrant, which makes him invasive of our society. Thus, we now have on our hands an invasion of illegal immigrants that have overstayed their visas. They are in this country illegally. How they came to be criminals is not the point. The point is that they are here illegally, which makes them criminals.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

No one is defending illegal immigration. Dehumanizing white nationalist rhetoric has to be called out, though.

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Again with your labels. Why must you single out White nationalist? What about Black American nationalist? And let's not forget all those Hispanic and Asian American nationalists. Are they all bastards too? You don't see us separating White globalists from Black American, Hispanic, and Asian American globalists. We oppose them all equally.

Whenever you liberals start losing an argument, you go to the race division card. That's because you all thrive on division. It's all you've got these days.

Every day, more and more Black, Hispanic, and Asian Americans are seeing Democrat rhetoric for the pure BS that it is. Keep up that mantra Guisslapp. It's plain to see how poorly it's playing in Peoria these days.

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Originally Posted by brtransplant

In nature, we call a non-native species in an environment an invasive species. It matters not how it got there, it's still an invasive species. An immigrant that overstays his visa becomes an illegal immigrant, which makes him invasive of our society. Thus, we now have on our hands an invasion of illegal immigrants that have overstayed their visas. They are in this country illegally. How they came to be criminals is not the point. The point is that they are here illegally, which makes them criminals.

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There you go again with the dehumanizing white nationalist rhetoric.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...indifference-0

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

There you go again with the dehumanizing white nationalist rhetoric.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...indifference-0

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No, I didn't de-humanize anyone. I simply pointed out that illegal immigrants have ILLEGALLY invaded our society, period. The actual point of my post was to simply defend the use of the word invasion when it comes to these illegal immigrants.

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Originally Posted by brtransplant

No, I didn't de-humanize anyone. I simply pointed out that illegal immigrants have ILLEGALLY invaded our society, period. The actual point of my post was to simply defend the use of the word invasion when it comes to these illegal immigrants.

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The generic reference to “species” was even more over the top, but the categorization and villification is part of the process. “Invaders” is what white nationalists call immigrants. I am not sure why you want to use their language if not to dehumanize.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

There you go again with the dehumanizing white nationalist rhetoric.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...indifference-0

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So you don’t believe in obeying the law?

Then you won’t mind if I come to your house and see if you have anything I want.

Let's see...using my definition of "nationalism" and the fact I happened to be white, I am a white nationalist. And damn proud of it too!

Definition of "nationalism" - the love of one's native country, the desire/willingness to defend one's nation, the notion of putting the needs of one's nation ahead of others. To embrace the history, culture, beliefs, and LAWS of one's nation. (I think that covers it, but I reserve the right to revise and extend the definition)

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Originally Posted by glm47

So you don’t believe in obeying the law?

Then you won’t mind if I come to your house and see if you have anything I want.

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I do believe in obeying the law. What I don’t believe in his dehumanizing people. You can talk about issues without doing that. Lowering the dialogue does nothing but support hate agendas.