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People talk about conspiracy theorists and such especially where the vaccine is concerned.. yet when Biden does things such as this, it does nothing but add fuel to that fire and they have a point..Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Biden exempts Congress and staff from vaccine mandate...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/con...accine-mandate
So why is Congress and staff exempt from taking a drug that they are forcing everyone else to take? There is no valid reason IMO..
Arrogant idiot is protecting “certain” members of congress.
Biden did not exempt Congress. Congress and the judicial branch exempts themselves by not being part of the executive branch.
If you're going to revere a document, you should at least read it. Hell, you should probably even read your own source.
Can’t believe people have trouble trusting the guvmint.
Government is, overall, too incompetent to do half the stuff people think it cans.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
I’ll give you that. Still don’t trust them.Quote:
Originally Posted by JuBru
You are a sucker for the dumbest things. That is why “people talk about conspiracy theorists” like you.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
suddenly the document is what matters but not what is actually happening…double standards. If our idiots in charge were seriously concerned about the shots they would take themQuote:
Originally Posted by JuBru
Who in Congress hasn’t? Biden and Harris got theirs in public.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
So, does the EO just not include them, or does he lack authority? If he doesn’t have the authority to implement this with 2 branches of government which employ far more than 100 people, then how does he even think he has that authority with the general public?
OSHA is an executive agency. OSHA’s employer rules not apply to Congress because the United States is not an “employer” under their administration.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
It is a very basic concept.
FoxNews doesn’t want to point out this very basic facts though.
No?Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
They did.
The EO does not apply to legislative and judicial branches. Congress exempts themselves from OSHA and a whole lot of other things.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
I haven't read enough to say one way or another whether the push through OSHA regs is legit or not. I am curious why going this route instead of same route used for MMR, polio, DTaP, Tdap, HiB, and others.
Normally vaccine “mandates” are state regulations because they are intended to prevent the spread of illnesses in schools.Quote:
Originally Posted by JuBru
Not all kids are eligible for this one, for one.
And for two, this one isn’t actually a mandate - you have an alternative - to test weekly.
Biden and Harris are not congress. We'll never know which members of congress or congressional staffers have elected not to take the shots, but it's okay if they are democrats right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Democrats in Congress have a 100 percent vaccination rate. Half of the Republicans won’t disclose their vaccination status. My guess is the majority of them that won’t disclose are vaccinated but they don’t want to alienate the whackos from their political base.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
You just don’t get it. Many of us aren’t vaccine averse. We are mandate averse. I am allowed to believe that the vaccine is effective in a majority of situations while some experience problems. That’s called an opinion. Not based on some scientific(read potentially biased)study, but based on what I hear from doctors I trust and multiple family members who work in healthcare locally. Where are your facts backing your claim above? Why would you spew falsehoods and misinformation about the vaccine status if people you have never and will never meet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Why do you think Republicans in Congress won’t state their vaccine status while Democrats openly acknowledge they are vaccinated?Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
Is the goofball Rand Paul still unvaccinated?
Who cares, it’s not my business. I can’t help that people you seem to support like to virtue signal about EVERYTHING. “Holier than thou” is their motto. In reality they are just as crooked as anyone you want to point out on the right. Vaccines don’t matter if we are masking and 6 feet apart anyway, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Politicians that want the citizens to get vaccinated should signal that they are vaccinated to build confidence. It isn’t about being holier than thou.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
You don’t need airbags if your car is equipped with seat belts right? Stop playing dumb.
Why would somebody with natural immunity take the shots that you people are demanding?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Look up hybrid immunity, so I don’t have to explain it to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Just read a short article by a Dr. Robert Malone...there was accompanying information/articles, which I did not bother to read...and he states that natural immunity is better than vax-induced protection. That makes sense since each of us is mostly unique biologically and our own defense system(s) work best for us, rather than some one-size-fits-all manufactured vaccine. Not knocking the vaccines, just agreeing that our bodies know what is best for each of us.
Carry on....
That is ignorant AF. The immunity you get from a vaccine is also created by your individual immune system.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Blinken representing the Biden Admin well. Continues to blame Trump for making a deal they had to stick to. After the admin has undone EVERYTHING Trump did except that. Blame Trump for leaving them with a deadline but no plan. I’m sorry, I didn’t realize we had an administration full of 3 year old children who needed to be told, “get all civilians out and make sure the Afghan forces have control of military installations before you evac the troops.” Or, “these situations are fluid and it appears the Taliban has already broken the agreement, so, new plan.”
As has been discussed repeatedly, I am pained by the realization that our population was dumb enough to put these rodeo clowns in charge. I’m sorry, failed rodeo clowns. In order to be a success, a rodeo clown has to avoid the bull. It is apparent that most of these idiots messed with the bull and we’re trampled in the head.
Another...Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Dr. Paul Oftt says that natural immunity is generally 3 times better than vax-induced immunity. Now, I must add he states his expertise and most of his experience is in pediatrics, dealing with childhood diseases like measles and mumps. He addressed measles in detail citing 70 years of documented research that clearly shows getting measles as a kid offers better immunity than those who were vaxxed against it. But he added about 500 kids per year died from complications of measles through the 1950's into the mid 1960's so, being vaxxed, in his opinion, offers the better "big picture" option because it virtually eliminates the consequences of suffering with the ailment. But the more robust immunity results from natural immunity.
I just Binged and in a matter of seconds found two MDs who NOT hiding behind some fake handle, put their reputation out there to contend natural > vaxxed immunity. I have to ask myself, and you all need to ask yourselves too, why would these two MDs risk their reputations/careers if it was not true that natural trumps vaxxed? Instead, we are being asked to believe a non-MD, who hides behind a screen name "Goosey."
I don't know...let me repeat that, I DON'T KNOW what is true, what isn't. Like most of you, not named Goosey, I try to gather as much information as possible and when there is conflicting opinions I lean on my own understanding. I was vaxxed as a kid, the old MMR shots, the small pox sugar cube, and I have done annual flu shots, and the China virus vax, and here I am! Of course, we also drank from garden hoses...so maybe we built immunity against bugs that way!
Dr. Oftt, a medical doctor for decades is ignorant, eh, Goosey? :icon_roll:
He also couldn’t tell the committee how many of these people didn’t qualify for SIV’s. We are vetting them here instead of there. Put all these idiots in a room with enough food for an army, then cap all the containers with childproof locks. They will all starve.
I said basically the same thing a long time ago. Listen to doctors who have everything to lose and almost nothing to gain.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
But we aren’t talking about generalities. We are talking about a specific virus and specific kind of vaccine. Plus, remember if you wanted to develop a natural immunity to COVID, you have to get it first. And that is clearly more dangerous than getting the vaccine.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
And here is what your new favorite doctor Offitt said about getting the Covid vaccine if you had been infected previously (spoiler alert, he thinks you should still get it).Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
https://www.chop.edu/centers-program...ously-infected
Btw, when talking about mRNA Covid vaccines in that video, he also points out that the vaccines give you upper quartile antibody response compared to natural infection, which basically means that if you had a natural infection there is a 75 percent chance your antibody titers are less than someone that got the vaccine. So when you get to specific considerations, the same doctor is basically saying the opposite for Covid and mRNA vaccines than what you said he said when speaking “generally” about vaccines and natural immunity.
He said that, and I posted that he had said that (re: measles), but doesn't change the fact that natural > vax immunity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
And the China Virus aka SARS II var: Covid-19 is still brand new. We have 70+ years of data re: the measles and other such diseases.
Actually it changes everything. Your own source said so. Watch his video I linked.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Your guy, Offit said:Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
“So, that's the question. Are you just as immune after you've been naturally infected as someone who's been vaccinated? Well, interestingly, when these companies that made messenger RNA vaccines to prevent SARS-CoV-2 did these trials, what they did was initially, they would give their messenger RNA vaccine and then look to see whether or not that vaccine induced virus-specific neutralizing antibodies, and then compared it to people who'd been naturally infected. And what they found was that as a general rule, those who were vaccinated tended to have a high neutralizing antibody titer as compared to those who were naturally infected, which had a much broader range of neutralizing antibodies.
When you were vaccinated, you tended to be in the upper half or upper quartile of that range that was induced by natural infection.”
He goes on to suggest getting vaccinated even if you had COVID.
Bad Friday for ole Joe.. not a good way to end the week...
Devasting video footage of 10,000+ migrants now at the U.S./Mexico border in shitty conditions under a bridge
FDA panel votes against the COVID-19 booster recommendation that he's been pushing and claiming will start on September 20
France recalls U.S. ambassador
U.S. admits it killed 10 civilians, including 7 children
To be clear, the FDA advisory panel has voted, 18-0, to recommend administering Pfizer vaccine booster doses to people over 65 and those at high risk of severe COVID-19.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Which could include those with a BMI over 25…or 70% of Americans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
So I haven't heard.. and my daughter or wife didn't know this.. Is the booster a "different" type of shot.. or is it just a 3rd shot of what was given in the first two?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
It’s a half-dose I believeQuote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
If you support it you should know for sure. You believe 70% of Americans are “obese”?Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
That’s silly. I don’t know what’s in my Claritin or my Prilosec either. If my doc says I need it, I’ll take it. I believe 70% of Americans have a BMI over 25.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
That would make you “silly”. Stop believing everything you read and think it through before you just accept it.
Maybe so should introduce you to my doctor.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
If your doctor thinks that BMI is a good indicator of being "overweight" they are a quack. The BMI measuring method is ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
I never said we need to know what's actually in what we are prescribed, but we certainly need to know the dosage...full dose, half dose, how much?
Now we are back to depending on the FDA to tell us what is good and bad regarding booster shots. The FDA is directly responsible for obesity in America.
You don’t self-administer the booster.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Thanks goodness for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
We discussed this weeks ago and you said it was always (going back to March I believe) known that booster shots would be necessary for everyone. NOW your experts are backing off on that.
I still think they will. The fda advisory panel just didn’t think we need to take that step for the general population NOW because they are comfortable with the evidence that, outside those that were vaccinated earliest (particularly the old and compromised) our immunity is still effective at preventing severe disease and death. Or at least sufficiently so that they would rather wait to see more data before recommending it for the general population. For those most at risk, they were unanimous in their cost benefit analysis - they should get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Who said anything about the validity of the BMI? The discussion was about who can get the booster.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
And to avoid any potential fake outrage, the FDA will sometimes recommend something even when the advisory committee does not vote in favor of it.
You implied that those with a BMI over 25 were "at risk". That's as ridiculous as implying all those with HBP are "at risk".Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
How does the advisory committee feel about the FDA food pyramid insanity?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I think you are confused about the difference between the FDA and the USDA (which came up with the food pyramid).Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Your inference skills are on the fritz. The FDA categorizes those with a BMI over 25 as overweight. I said that may give them access to the booster shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Only 1 in 4 with HBP have it under control…in case you were unaware.
. O the FDA endorses the same crapQuote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
more misinformation from your Doc or the FDA!Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
CDC…I’m sure your personal research is more accurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Then it should be easy to find their endorsement. It is not part of the FDA’s authority, which in the food space, is about food safety and labeling. Your real enemy is the USDA.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
The panel also recommended that the FDA include healthcare workers and others at high risk of occupational exposure to the virus that causes COVID-19, such as teachers.
Especially teachers who are union members right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
This is in regard to foreign policy... NOT Covid-related, just in case anyone would be wondering.
I just brought myself to watch a whole segment on MSNBC's stooooooooopid Morning Joe Show. Little wonder those who rely on and believe the nonsense of the lamestream media are so ignorant and vote the way they do. The blatant lies, the spin, the self-righteous "oh, look at us, we know so much" (while telling lies) attitude. The funny thing is all any thinking person has to do is do an Internet search on the topics discussed and they would find articles from MSNBC.com that debunk the crap they just spewed.
Just a lil aside...carry on.
The exact same thing could be said about FoxNews. These hyperpartisan infotainment sources lobotomize their viewers and turn them into tribal shills.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
says the guy who claims to be a libertarian capitalists who leans left on everything other than his own portfolioQuote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
The adults are still looking out for the little man…proposing to have banks report ALL transactions over $600.00
They are trying to make it harder for rich people to avoid paying the taxes they owe. Bottom earners that get most of their income from wages are already ratted out by their employers.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
They are not going after the rich. They are going after the bottom earners. Keep up the mantra (lies). You people seem to enjoy that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I wouldn't call any $600.00 transaction a "rich" person's transaction.. that said people will find ways around it. For example: When I was in O&G we had limits to what Engineers and Production Managers could approve from a budget/financial standpoint. So if an engineer only had 500K approval authority, and he wanted something for 2.5M then he would have the vendor send 5 separate invoices of 500K each over a period of time so that he could approve it and it not go to Sr Leadership.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
600 is the minimum, which has to be set somewhere.we will see how it gets codified. Could aggregate amounts from the same source over a period of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
The breaking up into smaller invoices to get around delegation of authority is a good way to get fired for breaking corporate controls. A culture that tolerates that is a major red flag.
examples using $600 bites :icon_roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Even my socialist (his words) great grandfather-in-law opposes the proposed banking reporting proposition.
How does he feel about w2 wage reporting?Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Never came up...he was a CPA for years and years, so I'm sure he has an opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
How many business, which still report and pay taxes properly, will require cash payments just so they can avoid the constant nagging from the government?
Not the ones this regulation is intended to hit. And of course if they do, and get busted, any good faith attempt to comply penalty mitigators might get disregarded.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
Give me examples of somebody (the rich as you said), using $600 payments, taking advantage of the current allowable banking rules. There's not a bank around that won't pick up on multiple transactions and shut them down even for a couple of hundred.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Person that makes their money from renting properties.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
$600 is barely pocket change! This is stupid! So typical of big-guvmint commie bastards to want to stick their nose in everyone's business. Under obummer there were so many regs placed on banks they could barely operate. Who paid the biggest price for that? Yep, the "small" guy, especially would-be small business owners/entrepreneurs having a mountain of new paperwork to climb just to TRY to get a business loan. Didn't impact the BIG GUYS very much or at all.
What a frickin' joke! $600....sheeesh! POCKET CHANGE!
Yeah, I don’t really agree with it either.
So you think cashing those $600 or $1000 or $1500 checks is wrong? Cash is not bad. It can be used to pay expenses on those rental properties.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
You people are amazing. Control is what you want, not taxes.
You nudged up a peg...now at -356 credibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I didn’t say it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Yes you did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
And how did you infer “cashing checks is wrong” from that statement?Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
I said thisQuote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
You said this...
They are trying to make it harder for rich people to avoid paying the taxes they owe. Bottom earners that get most of their income from wages are already ratted out by their employers.
And how did you infer “cashing checks is wrong” from that statement?Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
How else can evil landlords take advantage?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Not reporting income is the problem, not cashing checks. But if you were to start cashing your checks to avoid detecting income, it is going to be a lot harder to argue any sort of “good faith” to mitigate penalties.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Try to keep up. The idiots in charge are backing down to $600 transactions. You said that was to keep the rich from beating the system. The only way they can then beat the system is to not report cash collected from renters. How will this stupid new regulation prevent that?
Because it is a major pain for rich people not to use the US banking system.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
My problem with the proposal is not in its use to detect tax cheating. And if that were the goal, I think there are probably better strategies for doing that. My problem with the proposal is that it appears that the government is trying to use it for more generalized information collection to SHAPE tax policy.
no it is easier for the rich and more difficult for the average entrepreneurs. Rich landlords trying to beat the tax man will simply give discounts for cash payments.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
And what are they going to do with that cash?Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Spend it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
You people are always looking for ways to beat the man who can beat the system, but you only hurt the small business man like me in doing it. I don't sell drugs or deal in cash. Everything I receive over $600 already requires a 1099 form. Now if I've saved up $700 cash and want to deposit in a checking or savings account the IRS will now be notified from my bank that I was involved in a $700 transaction. I'm probably going to be double taxed on this.
They've already tried the double taxing with me and I don't make over 400,000. Biden wants to hire another 50,000 IRS agents. Biden is going to increase everybody's taxes no matter what you make. He's got to feed and house those millions of migrants illegally crossing our southern border. Biden seems to be getting even more popular. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0jGIRzCEEY.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Rich people don’t generally want to spend their money. Real capitalists know this.
Real capitalism is spending money to make money. That’s exactly what you do in the market and if done properly you avoid paying taxes as much as possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Circle Back Jen admits that 'non approved' questions are verboten.
Memology 102
Yesterday, Biden's handlers interrupted Boris Johnson mid-sentence and kicked out all the U.S. and UK press from the conference. Today, Psaki admits it was because Boris call his press corps which were about to ask unscripted questions and we know Biden is allergic to those
You can hate on Trump all you want, but you cannot say that Trump's Q&A with the Press was controlled like this.
The Bidenites are dangerous commie bastards...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...edgdhp&pc=U531
Ya think!? :icon_roll:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...?ocid=msedgntp
Fixed it for youQuote:
Originally Posted by dawg80