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Although this article did not mention Tech or USM others have. But you can almost be guaranteed that if Tech joins then Tulane, Tulsa, Memphis and SMU will leave. Those schools do not want to be in a conference with Tech. They would take UTEP over Tech (and they're not even being mentioned). When those teams leave then the rest of CUSA would come in making the move a simple lateral one. Of course there's always the UL twins. We'll be hearing from the Ooh La La gang soon.
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Uconn football will end up being Independent now.
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Houston Techsan
Although this article did not mention Tech or USM others have. But you can almost be guaranteed that if Tech joins then Tulane, Tulsa, Memphis and SMU will leave. Those schools do not want to be in a conference with Tech. They would take UTEP over Tech (and they're not even being mentioned). When those teams leave then the rest of CUSA would come in making the move a simple lateral one. Of course there's always the UL twins. We'll be hearing from the Ooh La La gang soon.
A couple things about this: one, Tech will not be a candidate. Our budget, TV market, student population and lack of certain facilities will preclude us being considered. Secondly, those schools would NOT leave the AAC if Tech is picked, although that is a moot point. Where would they go? I will add that the fact that we slipped out of of Tier 1 does not help .
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We will join the AAC as soon as all the good schools leave. And we'll be in the Sun Belt 3.0. Always sideways, never up.
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Blue Dawg
We will join the AAC as soon as all the good schools leave. And we'll be in the Sun Belt 3.0. Always sideways, never up.
My point exactly.
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You guys act like you aren’t okay with mediocrity. Blasphemy!
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Houston Techsan
Although this article did not mention Tech or USM others have. But you can almost be guaranteed that if Tech joins then Tulane, Tulsa, Memphis and SMU will leave. Those schools do not want to be in a conference with Tech. They would take UTEP over Tech (and they're not even being mentioned). When those teams leave then the rest of CUSA would come in making the move a simple lateral one. Of course there's always the UL twins. We'll be hearing from the Ooh La La gang soon.
As has been pointed out, where would they go?
Also, you're correct about Memphis but wrong about Tulane, Tulsa, and SMU. We would not have gotten into CUSA in 2012 without Tulane's support. SMU and Tulsa helped us get into the WAC in 2000. And SMU's president openly supported Tech in our bid to get into CUSA in 2004 as did Tulane's president.
We didn't get into CUSA in 2004 in favor of UTEP because Memphis' president insisted on it to a point where he swung enough votes to make it happen. And that group of presidents almost immediately regretted the decision. So much so that in 2012 had there been one opening in CUSA it would have gone to Tech. Two openings and it would have been Tech and FIU.
In the end, do you really think they left CUSA or the WAC because of some secret hatred for Tech? Or was it because the 3 had opportunities to advance their own programs?
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One thing worth pointing out. The AAC plans to stand pat for basketball and all other sports with the exception of football. They may not be able to stand pat in football.
If they look for a new member for football only this will likely come down to whether a school in which they have an interest can find a home for their other sports in another conference.
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The Historian
One thing worth pointing out. The AAC plans to stand pat for basketball and all other sports. They may not be able to stand pat in football.
If they look for a new member for football only this will likely come down to whether a school in which they have an interest can find a home for their other sports in another conference.
Army and BYU seem like the first choices. Then … UMass?
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While I agree that our chances aren't high. I don't think that SMU, Houston, Tulane and Tulsa look down on us as previously mentioned. Tech has come a long way since the 90s. Our brand, quality of sports, and educational reputation are much much stronger than before. This is going to boil down to who fits in the East. If Navy shifts to the Eastern division then it will be a beauty contest for Tech, USM, WKU, Rice and UNT. I would categorize the list like this.
1. ODU- Eastern School with high budget that fits in with others.
2. USM- Old friend of the group, but their budget and academics are struggling right now. They are in a bad place.
3. Rice- Another old friend, but would struggle athletically and Houston may not want the company.
4. UNt- Has hit its strides. Growing big time in a growing market but looked down on worse than us by SMU, Tulane, Tulsa and Houston.
5. Tech- Small public school with small budgets. Could compete athletically but would have to make a huge commitment to many things to get in.
6. MTSU and WKU- Small budget public schools that won't help AAC
7. UTSA- They have peaked then floundered.
8. FAU-FIU- NO NO NO. CUSA should never have invited them.
9. UTEP- will be in the MWC within 5 years.
10 Marshall- They look at Marshall like its a JC.
I find that we are in a small group of schools that won't have a school or two actively lobbying against us. USM, Tech and ODU are the most promising.
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Champ967
Army and BYU seem like the first choices. Then … UMass?
Army would be the logical first choice. But would Army give up what seems to be a winning formula right now in exchange for the cash.
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The Historian
Army would be the logical first choice. But would Army give up what seems to be a winning formula right now in exchange for the cash.
I think Army would be a no-brainer, but keep in mind the darkest days of Army sports were in the CUSA of old. They would be smart to stay put. They don't need the AAC and frankly neither does Navy.
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KSDAWG
While I agree that our chances aren't high. I don't think that SMU, Houston, Tulane and Tulsa look down on us as previously mentioned. Tech has come a long way since the 90s. Our brand, quality of sports, and educational reputation are much much stronger than before. This is going to boil down to who fits in the East. If Navy shifts to the Eastern division then it will be a beauty contest for Tech, USM, WKU, Rice and UNT. I would categorize the list like this.
1. ODU- Eastern School with high budget that fits in with others.
2. USM- Old friend of the group, but their budget and academics are struggling right now. They are in a bad place.
3. Rice- Another old friend, but would struggle athletically and Houston may not want the company.
4. UNt- Has hit its strides. Growing big time in a growing market but looked down on worse than us by SMU, Tulane, Tulsa and Houston.
5. Tech- Small public school with small budgets. Could compete athletically but would have to make a huge commitment to many things to get in.
6. MTSU and WKU- Small budget public schools that won't help AAC
7. UTSA- They have peaked then floundered.
8. FAU-FIU- NO NO NO. CUSA should never have invited them.
9. UTEP- will be in the MWC within 5 years.
10 Marshall- They look at Marshall like its a JC.
I find that we are in a small group of schools that won't have a school or two actively lobbying against us. USM, Tech and ODU are the most promising.
You don't have UAB on your list. They might just be the favorite at this point if CUSA goes for an all-sports member. If it's football only it really comes down to who would they want that can move their other sports to another conference. If Army and BYU were to say no, it's really wide open.
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The Historian
You don't have UAB on your list. They might just be the favorite at this point if CUSA goes for an all-sports member. If it's football only it really comes down to who would they want that can move their other sports to another conference. If Army and BYU were to say no, it's really wide open.
I did forget UAB and they may have a good chance. I am not really high on them and that may be my bias showing. UAB is getting a new stadium and they have had recent success since the re-founding of their football program. Being a Tech and Alabama alumni, I just hate the bastards.