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Long time as in leading up to November 3rd? What indicators did you look at to form this opinion? If it was polls, and speaking of grifts, they were proven wrong even if Trump lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by inudesu
Long time as in from November 3rd? Trump picks up votes in every state and every voting group. Biden does not get as many votes as Clinton got in any of those groups EXCEPT the swing states and almost ALL of those votes were mail in ballots...now way this could be a grift.
Every voting group? Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Trump gained with Latinos. I will give you that. The socialist marketing gimmick was influential.
Trump picked up more black vote, but that doesn’t help when black turnout is higher and you are losing that demographic heavily.
Trump lost support with old folks.
Most significantly, Trump lost support with the biggest voting block....women.
Basic math.
I'd go back as far as the polls, sure. They weren't totally accurate but they predicted a Biden win.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
But really since the day or two after the election. Since the "we was robbed" campaign began. Since Fox News called the race. You're going to tell me now that Fox News is now officially LSM and has been totally liberal for years now and I won't really have an answer because I never watch cable news (I've barely even had cable for the last 15ish years, not that I'd watch cable news of any stripe if there was any way to avoid it, which there thankfully is).
But yeah, for a long time. He didn't win. Anyone you see on tv claiming that he did is probably profiting off of this misinformation. At least it started that way, but then they started convincing people. . .
Do you think Trump himself thinks he won? Or is this all part of the "art of the deal?" Honest question - if you hooked him up to a lie detector, regardless of the reality (so even if you agree with him that he really won), what do you think he would say?
If you really think Trump used “the socialist marketing as a gimmick” then you don’t know squat about socialism or maybe even communism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
But you are right about the naivety and mindless voting of certain women groups.
Hum... I wouldn’t doubt it.
Mike Lindell at Rally: Fox News 'Had to Be in on It'
At the 'Stop the Steal' rally in Washington, D.C., on Saturday, MyPillow founder Mike Lindell fired criticism at Fox News, saying they were "in on" bending the election toward Joe Biden.
"Why do you think Fox declared Arizona with only 14% of the vote in?" Lindell told the rally crowd. "They already knew what they did. They were in on it. I'm serious. They had to be in on it."
Lindell spoke for around 30 minutes, saying "this had to happen" so America could root out election fraud for future elections.
He added hope the nation comes back to "one nation under God," because people only turn to faith "when times are bleakest."
"We have decades of kids with no God," Lindell lamented.
He added the media was in a rush to serve Biden's campaign bid against President Donald Trump.
"Let's talk about Fox, but Fox would not let me advertise my book before the election because they said it was political," Lindell said, noting the only politics in it was his friendship with Trump.
Newsmax.com
So the my pillow guy has decided that the super conservative, Trump-backing news channel was in on a fix because they reported the facts but he doesn't like those facts?
Come on, man.
Fox News hadn’t been the same since new CEO Suzanne Scott took over.Quote:
Originally Posted by inudesu
FNC must have known of the obvious fix in Arizona. Their Dimmwit head of the polling unit falsely claimed that Trump wasn't going to win over 45% of the remaining outstanding vote after the premature call was made. Only problem was Trump won over 55% of the remaining vote and closed the lead down to 10,457 votes.Quote:
Originally Posted by inudesu
It was clear (to them) that he would lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
They called it.
He lost.
I don't understand the turning on Fox News other than just sour grapes about admitting defeat rather than pretending it went the other way.
They weren't trying to hurt Trump, they were reporting what happened.
Leaving Fox News was super predictable. The folks that left, left just as soon as Fox quit saying what they want to hear. When the facts conflicted with the viewers preferences, many viewers chose their preferences over the facts. Newsmax and OAN were more than happy to give them what they wanted.Quote:
Originally Posted by inudesu
Sure...the left does the same thing in their own ways.
What I don't understand is why they didn't go ahead and call Alaska, but kept it "undecided" for over a week. Trump had a 2:1 margin over Biden, and 50% of the vote was in. Yet they never called it.Quote:
Originally Posted by inudesu
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...-election/amp/Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
I don’t know how to share tweets on my phone, but I thought this one was interesting.
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Originally Posted by Brit Hume
He’s referring to this NRO article: https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/...eam-trump/amp/Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
I'll say it again, put Louisiana in charge in these states who can't seem to handle elections. They can pay us a fee, and we can use the money for sure. After the 2000 Florida "hanging chad" mess there was a joke going around that Louisiana rented our voting machines to Florida so they could hold some local and statewide elections...Edwin Edwards won the Florida gubernatorial race! But, since the EE political machine collapsed and was disbanded, our elections have been fair.
Seriously though, Louisiana does have a good system. Just saw where the final numbers for the POTUS election have been verified, pending the Electoral College's vote, and there were less than 1,400 votes thrown out across the state, out of over 2.1 million votes cast. BTW, Kanye West got 4,897 votes and came in 4th in the state, behind Trump, Biden, and Jorgenson, the Libertarian candidate (21K votes).
In Natchitoches Parish only 117 votes were disallowed, due to insufficient documentation, out of over 16,400 votes cast. I spoke to David Stamey, Clerk of Court for the parish, he is rightly proud of the job his staff does in conducting fair elections. Of course, we have to show picture IDs to vote in person, and any absentee/mail-in ballots are checked and verified. All 117 votes disallowed were mail-in ballots.
The next test of election validity comes soon in Georgia. All the indicators point to a GOP sweep. Not landslides, not blowouts, but solid 4-5% type wins, maybe 52-48% at worse, in favor of the GOP. If the anti-Trump vote fails to turn out then the two GOP wins will be even bigger, maybe 58-42% I saw in one prediction. So...if the GOP loses one or both of these Senate elections, there will be NO DOUBT the elections were stolen, no doubt!