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Lo up. Brings up Cyber Innovation Center. Compares to Huntsville, Alabama.
Lo Walker, Mayor of Bossier City, is speaking in support of the merger.
He is also speaking on behalf of Shreveport Mayor Cedric Glover who cannot be here yet. Cedric may make it later.
Mayor Walker talking about cyber innovation and research. Says it needs Tech.
Vince Marsala & William Jenkins up...
Is this guy British????
Jenkins LSU-System pres speaking in opposition, talking about how he's been to SBC alot and spent much time there...
Interim LSU System president Bill Jenkins speaks in opposition of the merger, but he envies Tech.
"Shreveport need its own major public research university."
He's from South Africa, so Dr. Jenkins is an actual African-American.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allgood
Bringing up the LSUHSC and......4H? wth?
Starts associating LSU and LSUS. After Fanin and many others say that the money IS NOT THERE, Marsala asks why LSUS can't get funding...
SBC does want a research university, but System and BoR won't let them grow...
Speaking about Texas, UT-Dallas and now Univ Maryland merger study...
"20% chance of this merger succeeding"
Did Dr. Jenkins just say that LSU has played by the rules over the years?
Where do they come up with these numbers?Quote:
Originally Posted by Allgood
LSU has played by the rules :laugh:
LSU has been constrained...
Importing programs...
His arguements all seem slapdash compared to the proponents...
Who said that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Allgood
Jenkins or Marsala
So far, the proponents seem to have a VERY strong case. I haven't heard anything earth shattering or non-transparent from the anti-merger crowd.
Keeps saying Shreveport needs it's own 4 year research institution. Wouldn't a merger give Shreveport one???
when do they vote?
"Proceed cautiously..." Does not say to me don't do this...
ALABAMA! Wrong example... LOL...:laugh:
Yes, and the LSU plan does not. He's contradicting himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allgood
He's essentially saying Tech can't give Shreveport a strong 4 year research university.
So we have all the LOCAL people supporting the merger, and some guy who "has spent a lot of time in Shreveport-Bossier" --but doesn't live there-- opposing it?
Nice. :icon_roll:
I know! :furious3:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06
LSUS President Marsala playing the blame game again.
It will be after the opponents have a chance to testify on the bill.Quote:
Originally Posted by coop1448
The House meets at 2 PM today, so the meeting will have to end before then.
Exactly, and now Marsala is arguing that the BoR has blocked the expansion of Role & Scope and it's their fault...Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
Which wouldn't that indirectly support the merger? Get away from the LSU system BoR and into a system that will foster growth.Quote:
Originally Posted by GermDawg
Now saying study was Anti-Shreveport Anti-LSUS...
Marsala's just doing his job, his arguement is based on how they've been held down, does nothing to address the needs of the city, dwindling budget or enrollment.... He sound's half-hearted...
Marsala is STILL playing the blame game. He doesn't present a single reason why keeping the status quo is better than the merger. He wants LSUS to become a national research university.
Doesn't matter how we got here.........only matters that the area needs a 4-year RESEARCH university, and the state can't afford to put money into a new one. Merging with Tech is best alternative.Quote:
Originally Posted by GermDawg
HD
Carmody to Jenkins: History is history. Let's move forward. Where is the money to implement the LSU Shreveport committment plan?
*BOOM*
"Where is the money to add these programs..."
WOW! I believe I JUST SAID THAT in a previous post! HAHA!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06
HD
Jenkins says he does not know how they will afford it. He's new. Hasn't had enough time to study the plan.
LSU-Shreveport Baseball is #1 in NAIA...
So the state is supposed to table this issue, thereby potentially costing it MILLIONS of taxpayer dollars, simply because this clown (Jenkins) isn't up to speed and he ADMITTEDLY, hasn't done his homework?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06
Louisiana Federation of Teachers against, everyone else against are LSU-Shreveport alums, no one else speaking against?
Marsala stated that LSUS is #1 in baseball.
Several LSUS faculty, coaches, and staff are present in opposition but don't want to speak.
:laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06
Survey says..?
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Attachment 9336Quote:
Originally Posted by GermDawg
Well la dee freakin da.
I think the Louisiana Federation of Teachers just said that she is there for a different bill.Quote:
Originally Posted by GermDawg
Crap, fiscal note showing increase 1.5 million dollars...
That's because they know they're likely to put their foot in their mouth. They've been coached to keep quiet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06
Note is for transfer/merger costs...
I thought their SBC community was going to step up and help pay for this...
Explain this comment, please.Quote:
Originally Posted by GermDawg
Cost of implementing merger?Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
That's estimated initial merger costs.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
Ans: Have to spend money to save money in the future. Look at big picture. Citizens of Shreveport to help fund initial costs of merger.
No need. He explained it in post #148. I think he and I were typing at the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by sportdawg
Who's this guy saving Fanin's butt?
Fiscal notes are calculated by the Legislative Auditors to show the $$$ impact of proposed bills.
Who's the guy speaking now? He said he's "only been here a year." That's shocking. Must be Jenkins.
Somebody is disputing Marsala's testimony of the BoR blocking new LSUS programs. He said the BoR gave them initial approval, but LSUS never followed through with bringing them back for final approval. Shame on them. He said LSUS can't just apply to be a doctoral university. They have to earn it.
That's just more evidence that LSUS doesn't know what they are doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06
Rep. Edwards says that it's troublesome that Marsala and that guy have irreconcilable contradicting testimonies. He doesn't know what to do.
The guy says that Marsala initially supported the merger, and then 2 weeks later he was vehemently against it.
I heard that. WHO IS THE GUY SPEAKING?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06
I don't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
That was the BoR head I think, basically called out Marsala for supporting this initially and now flipping....
Also, calling out that BoR did not block LSUS but that LSUS hasn't followed through...
Rep. Patricia Smith appears to be really concerned about the costs. She said that the Southern U System didn't know about the amendments.
Who is the lady rep speaking? Picking on the money issue...
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Originally Posted by GermDawg
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Originally Posted by Dawg06
She's actually asking some very good questions about "legacy costs", etc.... She wants to confirm that there won't be any surprise costs over the 3-5 year merger period.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06
I lost feed...
Rep. Thompson; concerned over hearing back about dollars saved... NLU grad...
Lots of questions about costs. Numbers came from the LSU system and the UL system.
Levy and Marsala to be questioned. This could be good.
Bob Levy & Vince Marsala up to discuss conflicting testimonies...
What was the 'fist bump' for?
Rep. Broadwater wants to get down to the bottom of the conflicting testimonies between Marsala and the BOR.
Bob Levy - Chairman of BOR
Vince Marsala -
These 2 guys are sitting beside each other now. And Rep Broadwater is demanding to get to the bottom of their differences. This is good.
"No request for exceptions were submitted by LSUS during the moratorium period." - Bob Levy
But I think it's irrelevant. It's a distraction from the real issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
Marsala bringing up that they've been pushed off of Regents agendas...
They are really getting in the weeds now. Kind of a pissing contest.
So Marsala could only provide one instance of a program getting pushed back by BoR?
Fannin and Carmody are making closing remarks on the bill.
No other programs not approved, but saying BoR didn't approve Role Scope; resolution from LSUS Faculty Staff and Alums, almost vote time?
It's getting very close to vote time.Quote:
Originally Posted by GermDawg
Who's the guy speaking now?
Rep. FanninQuote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
Going on 2 1/2 hours now...
Vote coming up...
Motion passes out of the House Education Committee with amendments 14-4!
House Bill 964 will move onto the House of Representatives for further debate by the entire House.
Who's Edwards?
Passes 14-4!
It passes...what's next?
Wesley Bishop NO
John Bel Edwards NO
Patricia Smith NO
Steve Carter NO
All others YES
Passes 14 to 4!
HB964 passes, 14-4.
Need to get the $$$ straight before it goes anywhere, I'm sure if that Fiscal Note hadn't been slapdashed on and they had some good responses it would have been closer to unanimous.
Roll Call Vote:
Representatives voting Yes: Broadwater, Burns, Carmody, Champagne, Henry, Hollis, Jefferson, Landry, Price, Richard, Schroder, Shadoin, Jeff Thompson, and Williams
Representatives voting No: Bishop, Carter, Edwards, and Smith
So it will be put to a vote in the entire house right? Does it have to go through committee to be voted on by the senate?
Passes out of committee...still needs floor vote.
It just got out of committee. The bill hasn't passed.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
House Bill 964 goes before the full House for debate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lotsudo
Fair enough. Who are these guys, and what are their respective agendas?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06
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Representatives voting No: Bishop, Carter, Edwards, and Smith
Yes, HB 964 will be debated and voted on by the full House. If the House passes HB 964, it will be read by the Senate and assigned to the Senate Education Committee.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Brasky
All those who voted no have ties to LSU. Bishop, Carter and Edwards are LSU grads. Smith has done "post graduate work" at LSU.
First step finished! Now on to the floor. Does anyone know when that will be?