Definitely a downer. I can say I've NEVER failed to attend a Tech game because of weather. Never will, love being hardcore for the Dawgs!!Quote:
Originally Posted by champion110
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Definitely a downer. I can say I've NEVER failed to attend a Tech game because of weather. Never will, love being hardcore for the Dawgs!!Quote:
Originally Posted by champion110
Unfortunately, many on here will forget those facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Russdawg
I'm disappointed as well, but we should think about the people in South Louisiana that will be hardest hit and even killed by this storm. We have players from these areas that are worried about their homes and families. A&M as well. There will be a lot of rescue and humanitarian aid flowing South in a few days.
I don't think BVD made this decision on his own.
Trust me, I am just as mad as the next guy.. I have a very expensive decision to make.. Blow off my trip for the Tech game or blow off the Tech game for my trip (FWIW I am leaning towards blowing off my trip) I am just trying to put a positive spin on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by champion110
disappointed yes, really upset, no. I think it is great for us. True that A&M will have more time to get their ducks in a row by that time. However, they will be in the heart of their conference schedule by then. We don't know what A&M has for sure, but we will by then. They know what we have from watching film on last year. Saturday gate will be better and you never know, some people who don't have that day off may be able to work it out within the next 2 months. Some who could not get out this week will be there in october. Sucks, but oh well. More time to get our crap rolling.
They will know how we play, nothing much is changing, and what is changing they can read about on B,B&B. The only bad thing about this change, is that it is said the teams generally take a big step forward between the first and second games. I agree with the point spread.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.Y.O.C.B.
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Originally Posted by Russdawg
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Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Exactly! I think it was a good call by Bruce and the ADM. BTW, I heard my first radio commercial touting this game (done by TECH I might add) on the radio here in Tyler, TX today. That has never happened before! WHY TO GO GUYS!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Beaver-Dog
This could be a great opportunity for us and postponement is certainly the right decision. If we are fortunate enough (and we could be) to be undefeated going into the a&m game, and with a relatively easy schedule remaining thereafter, the a&m game will have strong BCS implications and will likely be nationally televised. It would be an absolutely PACKED stadium with all the hype and game-day atmosphere that it would deserve.
The cards are continuing to fall our way.
By the way, when it was announced on ESPN radio in Dallas that the game was postponed, the local radio host and prominent DFW sports-talk personality, Randy Galloway, was very complimentary of Tech saying specifically that LaTech was NOT a tune-up but a true test for the aggies and that he was very disappointed that the game had been postponed because he was very much looking forward to watching. A sidekick of Galloway then jumped in to add that Tech was a very good football team, "well-coached by that Dykes boy"(ha!).
A team improves the most between the first and second game of the season.
By postponing this game, your administration has just made sure both programs will be at a disadvantage going into their September 8 games.
That is the absolute truth. Also...how in Hell do we know the weather will be any better on October 13, 2012????Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Call in to BTB radio and tilt the scales. I agree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by LookingForResults
I agree...for the same reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUGETechfan
Are you watching the weather?-we always get the blunt of wind and rain with these events, thus possible loss of electricity-no one needs to risk life and limb for a football game. Our kids and theirs back at school-sounds better to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by baddawg
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Originally Posted by jchaisson
Exactly. I bought two 45 yard line chairbacks for for my admin asst & her husband whom are both LSU fans & will be going to the lsu/usc game. I may also have another pair of these quality seats available. Should know more tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by Beergut
But in aTm's case, we just helped your team from not going into their first $EC game with losing record of 0-1.:laugh:
If the decision was made for reasons other than purely for safety/health, as was officially stated, then I am incredibly ashamed of the decision makers. Will the moving of the game bring Tech more $$? Probably. Will the moving of the game put more people in the stands? Probably. Will the outcome of the game be different in October? Impossible to know. The possible higher ticket sales, profit, etc should not be used as a basis to move a Division 1 college football game nearly 48 hours from kickoff.
If both teams did not have a mutual off weekend, what would have been done?
You almost baited me to respond to your stupid post, but good sense prevailed.Quote:
Originally Posted by hammer
YES! no hurricane last year. Big Difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rooster
It's clearly time for you to move on to Florida's board little man. Run along.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beergut
LaTech admin was aided in their decision by Barksdale Air Force Base. Those guys were flying through the storm gathering far better up to the minute information than even the National Weather Service. Barksdale's data, at the time the decision to postpone was made, indicated (and I suppose still indicates) that the storm will track up I-49 to Shreveport. That was the primary reason for the decision to postpone.
It's not all about Shreveport!!!!! Consider everyone driving north through a hurricane!! It's just not safe.
Gotta fight that knee-jerk rxn. I'm mad bulldog football won't be happening until next week, but this could be a good thing for Tech. Houston is an easier first game...Florida...well, good luck TAMU.
So do you believe that if this game was originally scheduled at the Joe and it was a sell-out then the same postponement decision would be made? I'm just postulating that the decision to postpone wasn't made purely for safety/health reasons, as has been communicated.Quote:
Originally Posted by dch028
As I said in another post, this decision was made based on information gathered by Barksdale Air Force Base and shared with Tech officials indicating the most likely course for the storm is for it to track up I-49 toward Shreveport. That may not happen, but it was the best information available.Quote:
Originally Posted by justincad
So yes, had the game been at the Joe the decision would have been the same.
Disappointed, sure, and it is a mixed bag with the delay. But I cannot fault anybody for canceling because of hurricane safety concerns. No good reason to chance it. Not just rain and wind, but flooding, washed out bridges, downed power lines, falling trees, etc.
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
The track will probably shift over to Dallas then back to Monroe. These prediction models are basically useless, Issac was headed toward Tampa last Friday, then the panhandle, then Mobile, then Biloxi. What's the point in a model if the track is +/- 700 miles. There is just too much variability to predict a track. But still probably a good decision better safe than sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by LookingForResults
In a way I am glad the game was moved. Now we play on a Saturday and that should be a packed stadium. It will make it easier for a lot of us far away to be able to get to the game. Overall, I think a good decision by the admin.
Barksdale's data is thought to be the most accurate data available. It may be wrong, but the alternative of ignoring it and having it be correct was not in Tech's best interest.Quote:
Originally Posted by longdawgview
It is the best decision based on what we know from the US Air Force reconnisance data right now. Time to rally, Dawgs...and move on to Houston!Quote:
Originally Posted by DFWDawg
Yes. Common sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by LookingForResults
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Originally Posted by LookingForResults
Barksdale or Keesler, since that is where the Hurricane Hunters fly out of?
I agree Chip but it could also be said that the rain and win is much harder on an air raid offense and that A&M with their strengths being OL and RB would have their best chance to beat us in that kind of weather.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChipDog
There goes our by week. That ain't good.
As a player and as a team, I/we hated bye weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgmatic
Don't be so hard on them. They have to comfort their sheep in the inclement weather.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dubya261
You want to see the dawgs play in a packed stadium of sheep or in front of 2,500 lions?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgbert
This^^ I think you lose a little of your edge after 2 weeks of practicing against yourself without any real combat.Quote:
Originally Posted by LookingForResults
Yes. Driving on Wed/Thur would be equally as bad to Ruston as to Shreve.Quote:
Originally Posted by justincad
So will this be in Ruston or Shreveport? If Shreveport, will tickets be honored?
Will our HOFers be there this time?
Will all those scouts be there this time?
Most importantly, I'm freaking pissed that now I have to wait three more weeks to see some GD football!!!!! Cant make/watch Houston.
The point I was making still hasn't been addressed. If Tech had nothing to gain by postponing the game, would it have been postponed?Quote:
Originally Posted by dch028
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by hookdown
People who disagree with this descision now will likely look back at their initial reaction in the future and feel pretty silly.
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Agreed. Louisiana Tech would really look stupid if everybody showed up for the game on Thursday night, and the game finally had to be cancelled AT THAT TIME because of dangerous conditions.Quote:
Originally Posted by LookingForResults
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Yes. It was about safety. Counterpoint: What if the game goes on and the storm moves west and a pole falls in the parking lot and kills someone?Quote:
Originally Posted by justincad
We still have a "bye" week. It's the week we play UTSA. And Texas St. And New Mexico St. And Idaho. That's the "snoozer" part of the schedule. Take your pick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgmatic
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Ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
I would really hate to see something like this happen to anybody:
http://www.wtop.com/41/2947257/Tree-...own-Pike-VIDEO
Trees, wind, and soggy ground are not a good combination.
Wow. When something like that happens, you know it was your time. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by hookdown
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Was it completely about safety? Apparently Bruce's comment about something Sonny said implies that safety was not the only consideration in the decision-making process. And your counterpoint is an attempt to stray from the point I was making. I'm not questioning the decision, but rather the reasoning behind the decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by dch028
Were you looking forward to driving up 49 from BTR in this mess? Just curious.Quote:
Originally Posted by justincad
Looking forward to the drive? No. Looking forward to the game? Yes. Agree with the decision to postpone? Yes. Think stated sole reason for postponement (safety/health) was actually the only reason? No.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbodawg
So I'm assuming it will not be televised.
Why would you even care? If there were other reasons, they were reasons in our favor. So what's the problem?Quote:
Originally Posted by justincad
I don't know that is a safe assumption. I think they are waiting to decide a time on a game on the 13th because they are working with the espn people to get it done. I know someone who know's someone who once knew someone that knew Cartek's cab driver. :icon_wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Dawg
That's hopeful. Personally I'll still be able to attend but it's nice to have a plan B.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgmatic
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Originally Posted by Blue Dawg
Aren't all sec games televised?
Not sure. Probably. I assumed a game against a non-AQ would have low priority for rescheduling the television. Don't know much about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimJimWillie
Just seems like an unscrupulous way to gain an advantage. If we were on the other side of this situation and the other school's AD made a comment like Bruce did about Sonny being ok with moving the game because he didn't have film, the decision would be questioned the exact way I am by members of this board and members of the Tech family.Quote:
Originally Posted by LookingForResults
Not trying to ruffle any feathers, just trying to act as an objective observer.
That would be assuming that A&M doesn't have similar motives for agreeing to the reschedule...Quote:
Originally Posted by justincad
In the slim (20%) chance that it does not rain, how stupid does this move look?
Why not Friday night or Sunday?
Unnecessary and dumb remark by BVDV if correctly paraphrased, but not having film was not a reason for postponement. It's quite a bit more likely that the added game experience favors the aggies by a wide margin over any benefit we get from having film to review.
I would put not having film to review more in the category of a consolation benefit when trying to look on the bright side of a situation. We were geared-up and ready to play. It's frustrating to have to shift back to practice mode and was not the preferred decision for SD - guaranteed. It's just a decision with which he can live.
A lot less stupid than if someone had lost their life.Quote:
Originally Posted by GonzoDawg
Maybe he was joking and it didn't come off as a joke. He's not the most vibrant speaker I've ever heard. (Now I'm on the naughty list.:icon_wink:)
Yes, that's exactly the assumption I've been operating under. The only obvious motive I could see them having is the very real potential of having more fans in the stands. But that would also be a motive for Tech from a $$ standpoint, I would assume.Quote:
Originally Posted by boxerdog
Oh. Please.Quote:
Originally Posted by dch028
D-ramaaaaah.
They might have motives in terms of gaining a competitive advantage as well. At this point, they don't really know how their offense will emerge. It would not be good for them to try and cut their teeth against a veteran and gamely LaTech squad because they could very well lose the game--which would be a downer. Now, if they lose to Florida next week, it's not nearly as big of a deal from a perceptual standpoint (fanwise).Quote:
Originally Posted by justincad
..... I seriously doubt someone would lose their life in what is predicted to be a half inch to an inch of rain.Quote:
Originally Posted by dch028
Its a cat 1 making landfall 300 miles away. The projected path puts shreveport on the outer edge of what will be a dissapating tropical storm by Thursday night. Football games arent supposed to be cancelled for rain. Ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
Post of the year!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by hogdawg
I saw BVDV at lunch today and talking to Barksdale is what he indicated to me as well...said there were 3 options...1 still play in the rain and wind and lightning 2. Play Saturday morning in Shreveport 3. Play Oct 13th. Also told me someone else had the final say (words exactly from his mouth and it was not DR). Disappointed but I feel the right decision was made.Quote:
Originally Posted by LookingForResults
Dykes on ESPN NOW
You doubt that but you don't know that. Besides, the projection is for 2-6" and 30 MPH windsQuote:
Originally Posted by BoutThemDawgs
........Then you need to get a job with the weather center. Afterall, you seem to know so much.......:icon_roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by baddawg
The right decision would have been waiting until TOMORROW to call the game one way or another. Calling it a full 2+ days before the game is simply moronic.
Dude, he doesn't want a government job. I've got one and it doesn't pay too well.
Dude, simply moronic and Bruce Van de Velde is a double negative!Quote:
Originally Posted by DogsWin
Oh sure. Wait until the very last minute so none of us have adequate time left to cancel our hotel reservations without penalty. :icon_roll: This is exactly why you're not in charge, DogsWin.Quote:
Originally Posted by DogsWin
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See here's the problem with that. I've seen that forecast, but I've also seen multiple other forecasts showing it hitting Shreveport dead center with heavy rain, lightning and wind.Quote:
Originally Posted by baddawg
Not safe.
And again not to beat a dead horse but playing in that kind of weather IMO HEAVILY favors the Aggies.
Latest NHC track projection has the previously scheduled gametime position of the center of what is left of the storm close to Springhill.
Decision looking better with every passing hour. And the $$$ decision looking even better than that.
[QUOTE=HogDawg;1261596]Oh sure. Wait until the very last minute so none of us have adequate time left to cancel our hotel reservations without penalty. :icon_roll: This is exactly why you're not in charge, DogsWin.
You are DAMNED RIGHT, because if I was in charge WE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN PLAYING THIS GAME ON A THURSDAY NIGHT TO BEGIN WITH!!!
I'm getting into the heart of the storm now. I'm at work (the big airport) and we had to turn the generator on after losing power at 6:30pm. So we are taking the beating now and will work hard to get this thing availible for commercial service as soon as we can.
Guys - come on...for the safety of the fans and the players. The 30 mph wind and the rain at 80 % chance of heavy rains and is something I really don't feel safe in. They did the right thing. The game will be on a Saturday and the chance of a really nice crowd is improved...
Not any more. It's headed straight for SBC.Quote:
Originally Posted by baddawg
Exactly!!Quote:
Originally Posted by RealityCheck
It's not headed here. All we have is rain and some eastside wind, but we won't get much else. The lights haven't even flickered...so we just turned them out and ate dinner in the dusk of the Quarter!Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
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Originally Posted by cberg
Don't forget about 60% chance of "thunderstorms." If aTm would have driven to Shreveport, the game would have been cancelled due to lightning in the area there would be no make-up game. It would have been written off. And the safety factor has to be taken into consideration. Not just for the locals...but for everyone driving. I hate it & it sucks but I think they made the correct decisions.
[QUOTE=DogsWin;1261603]That we can agree on. I've hated the "Thursday" thing from the beginning.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
FWIW we a declaring a state of emergency in Claiborne Parish @ 9:00 am in the morning...
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Originally Posted by DogsWin
If......we had played the game in Ruston on Saturday....we could still play it. Storm would be gone by then!!
[QUOTE=70TECHGRAD;1261639]I'm sure A&M would have agreed to that. This ain't Madden.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
You'll be able to "stubhub" them just fine on this site. And we don't charge a fee.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.Y.O.C.B.
Make it 7am so you don't have to go in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden
Thanks to whomever made the decision today to cancel. I was able to cancel all reservations for a trip from Oregon and reschedule for October. Tech showed itself to be a responsible organization, most concerned for the safety of its fans, students, athletes and the general public.
folks, everything changes when the State and parishs' begin declaring a state of emergency, a lot more people start getting a say in what is going on and it is much bigger than a football game. GOSHEP begins having a say in this due to a lot of factors that it seems many of you have not even thought of, the decision to postpone may not have came from anyone at either University. This situation is bigger than TECH or aTm, some of you need to step back and try to see the big picture and find someting else to bit%h about, the game has been postponed using the best available information.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden
We seem to have a lot of folks on here who are weather experts and and are much smarter than everyone else and seem to think that the only people this storm affects are themselves. There is more to it than that, and after reading many of the post on this thread, it is obvious we have some people on the board who do not have a clue, and I will leave it at that.
OK....red dot away if you wish...I can take it.
Really Dwayne? Why in the heck are we declaring a SoE in Claiborne?
I can't understand why we are even having this particular conversation.Quote:
Originally Posted by boxerdog
A&M folks are LIVID about the decision. Very unhappy.
They certainly have no "motives" in the move. do you understand that the move puts them in a very rough situation? Now they go into the game against the Florida Gators next week having never taken a single snap in this new scheme with new quarterback.
Hate to break it to you, but they were counting on breaking in that offense against us.
It also strips away what WAS a bye week right before their LSU game. That bye week wasn't just a break to get healthy. It was an extra week of gameplanning.
I'm also pretty sure They don't give a crap how many folks were in the stands at Indy stadium. They don't give a crap about ticket sales for OUR home game.
FWIW, I'm not very happy about the decision either. I was ready to get this thing started.... Now the dreaded offseason just got extended by 10 days.