Phil Robertson: From Louisiana Tech to Duck Commander

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Originally Posted by Tech77

He is the son of the former Bulldog QB who is being maligned on this thread. Despite his checkered past from 35 years ago the former Tech QB and his sons have become well known models of Christianity in a time when such modeling is desperately needed in our nation. Does that answer your question?

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Sic 'em Tech77!!

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Originally Posted by Tech77

He is the son of the former Bulldog QB who is being maligned on this thread. Despite his checkered past from 35 years ago the former Tech QB and his sons have become well known models of Christianity in a time when such modeling is desperately needed in our nation. Does that answer your question?

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While I agree with your modeling concept, it still has nothing to do with Tech.

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Originally Posted by Dawgmatic

I haven't been here in over a month and I see nothing has changed. :icon_wink:

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Yep...just like a soap opera. Someone gets shot.....you turn it on a week later....and the police are just arriving!:)

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Originally Posted by turbodawg

I read on this board that Mike Green might've smoked some dope while the US was fighting a war in southeast Asia. I think we should run him down next. What ya got BBB'ers?? Get after it!

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No SE Asia in his life. Tech, then Denver Nuggets.

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Originally Posted by Dawgpix

No SE Asia in his life. Tech, then Denver Nuggets.

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Quit confusing these people with facts. They want to write their own version of history.

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Originally Posted by DONW

Quit confusing these people with facts. They want to write their own version of history.

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So.....we are getting to be like politicians!:D

Terry Bradshaw was on Mike and Mike this a.m.

Terry said he and Phil gonna be on Tonight Show this Friday.
TB said he'll ask Phil when he'll have TB on Duck Dynasty.
"I'll say, 'When you gonna have me on your show? You've used my name enough'."

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Originally Posted by maddawg

The subject of Terry Bradshaw on Mike and Mike this morning deserves it's own thread, but it also goes well here too...

TB got the obvious question about Phil. As always, he praised Phil as a great QB for Tech. Doesn't matter if it is accurate. Any press is good press.

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Richard Simmons?

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Originally Posted by Tech77

He is the son of the former Bulldog QB who is being maligned on this thread. Despite his checkered past from 35 years ago the former Tech QB and his sons have become well known models of Christianity in a time when such modeling is desperately needed in our nation. Does that answer your question?

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Still has nothing to do with Tech. I regret those who feel they had to bash his character. Also, I hope I made it clear that I have no ill feelings or fault Phil for anything he's done in his past. My only point, which some on here seem to fail to grasp, is that it's only because of his fame, and not Christianity. that some on here don't hold him to the same standards we do as those who have let their affiliations with Tech die over the years for whatever reason. I swear, it seems like on this board defending one who just because he is a Christian is like pulling the race card. It's not about being a Christian or not being a Christian. Heck, how many posters that support other schools come on here and we're quick to start calling them names or bashing on them and their affiliations yet, as far as we know, they are as Christian as Phil Robertson and his family?

Look. Am I glad that Phil Robertson is a Tech alum? Heck yeah even though we haven't seen much benefit from it. I just think if we're going to celebrate good Christians with ties to Tech, then it needs to be those who have kept their ties strong like Dwayne, maddawg, you, TT, Chuck, and the list goes on. Look at all those who were so accustomed to driving up to the game venues an hour before kickoff, but willingly changed their lives to start arriving as early as 10 hours to start a tailgating tradition because they knew we needed to have those types of changes to help our program grow, and the list of changes made goes on and on. Those are the types of fans that need to be revered for their fanaticism. Not some celebrity who mentions playing for Tech and starting ahead of Terry Bradshaw to further his own ego.

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Originally Posted by maddawg

TB said on Mike and Mike that he was probably going to be on DD eventually. He said that he and Phil were going to be on Leno Friday night and that he would ask him then, "When am I going to be on your show?"

Go back and find the TB interview from this morning. It was a good one.

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I heard it this morning too. I think I will tape Leno Friday night- that should be interesting to watch.

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Originally Posted by Dawgpix

No SE Asia in his life. Tech, then Denver Nuggets.

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Not while Green was in Asia, while the US was in Vietnam. Perhaps I should've said 'during the Nixon administration' or 'years before I was born.' Seems Green can't get 'forgiven' by some folks that have attitudes similar to some on here.

Lots of water cooler talk at my shop today about Tech, Robertson, and Bradshaw from this morning's mike and mike.

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Originally Posted by Dirtydawg

Still has nothing to do with Tech. I regret those who feel they had to bash his character. Also, I hope I made it clear that I have no ill feelings or fault Phil for anything he's done in his past. My only point, which some on here seem to fail to grasp, is that it's only because of his fame, and not Christianity. that some on here don't hold him to the same standards we do as those who have let their affiliations with Tech die over the years for whatever reason. I swear, it seems like on this board defending one who just because he is a Christian is like pulling the race card. It's not about being a Christian or not being a Christian. Heck, how many posters that support other schools come on here and we're quick to start calling them names or bashing on them and their affiliations yet, as far as we know, they are as Christian as Phil Robertson and his family?

Look. Am I glad that Phil Robertson is a Tech alum? Heck yeah even though we haven't seen much benefit from it. I just think if we're going to celebrate good Christians with ties to Tech, then it needs to be those who have kept their ties strong like Dwayne, maddawg, you, TT, Chuck, and the list goes on. Look at all those who were so accustomed to driving up to the game venues an hour before kickoff, but willingly changed their lives to start arriving as early as 10 hours to start a tailgating tradition because they knew we needed to have those types of changes to help our program grow, and the list of changes made goes on and on. Those are the types of fans that need to be revered for their fanaticism. Not some celebrity who mentions playing for Tech and starting ahead of Terry Bradshaw to further his own ego.

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Another excellent post!:D You are on a roll!!!:D

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Originally Posted by Dirtydawg

Still has nothing to do with Tech. I regret those who feel they had to bash his character. Also, I hope I made it clear that I have no ill feelings or fault Phil for anything he's done in his past. My only point, which some on here seem to fail to grasp, is that it's only because of his fame, and not Christianity. that some on here don't hold him to the same standards we do as those who have let their affiliations with Tech die over the years for whatever reason. I swear, it seems like on this board defending one who just because he is a Christian is like pulling the race card. It's not about being a Christian or not being a Christian. Heck, how many posters that support other schools come on here and we're quick to start calling them names or bashing on them and their affiliations yet, as far as we know, they are as Christian as Phil Robertson and his family?

Look. Am I glad that Phil Robertson is a Tech alum? Heck yeah even though we haven't seen much benefit from it. I just think if we're going to celebrate good Christians with ties to Tech, then it needs to be those who have kept their ties strong like Dwayne, maddawg, you, TT, Chuck, and the list goes on. Look at all those who were so accustomed to driving up to the game venues an hour before kickoff, but willingly changed their lives to start arriving as early as 10 hours to start a tailgating tradition because they knew we needed to have those types of changes to help our program grow, and the list of changes made goes on and on. Those are the types of fans that need to be revered for their fanaticism. Not some celebrity who mentions playing for Tech and starting ahead of Terry Bradshaw to further his own ego.

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I actually don't disagree with your post. I do think that he has given TECH lots of positive exposure though because he did play there. I don't believe he cares about anything other than God, his family, and hunting- and I am not sure what order that is in. I applaud him and his success though as I do for all TECH people. Hopefully we will be able to benefit from his success in some way- even if it hasn't happened before. If I saw him cheering for lsu- then I would have a problem. I don't care who his kids cheer for- they didn't go to TECH.

Phil, through his lay ministry, has baptized hundreds of people. His family is a big deal. When I was in Washington people wanted to talk about them. He gets Tech's name out even though he does not do what many of us wish he would do. You guys can criticize him all you want. His life is counting for something way more important than ball games and I glad to be able to say he is a fellow alum of Tech.

Well said 77.

I guarantee you that if the Robertsons suddenly donated a large sum of money to La Tech all these people criticizing him on this forum would suddenly become huge fans.

That just doesnt sit well with me.

I imagine TB will indoctrinate Phil this week in Los Angeles on needs at Tech. If not, somebody at Tech did not indocrtrinate TB on this opportunity.

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Originally Posted by Dawgpix

I imagine TB will indoctrinate Phil this week in Los Angeles on needs at Tech.

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Insert joke re: LA Tech

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Originally Posted by Cal&Ken

I actually don't disagree with your post. I do think that he has given TECH lots of positive exposure though because he did play there. I don't believe he cares about anything other than God, his family, and hunting- and I am not sure what order that is in. I applaud him and his success though as I do for all TECH people. Hopefully we will be able to benefit from his success in some way- even if it hasn't happened before. If I saw him cheering for lsu- then I would have a problem. I don't care who his kids cheer for- they didn't go to TECH.

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Originally Posted by Tech77

Phil, through his lay ministry, has baptized hundreds of people. His family is a big deal. When I was in Washington people wanted to talk about them. He gets Tech's name out even though he does not do what many of us wish he would do. You guys can criticize him all you want. His life is counting for something way more important than ball games and I glad to be able to say he is a fellow alum of Tech.

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I applaud him and admire him for that. I have a couple of questions, though. When you were in Washington, did the people want to talk about them because they knew you and Phil had a Tech connection or was it because they knew you were from Louisiana. I have people mention them all the time to me but not because they knew he went to Tech. Secondly, if he weren't so famous, would we still be having this conversation?

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Originally Posted by rabiddawg

Well said 77.

I guarantee you that if the Robertsons suddenly donated a large sum of money to La Tech all these people criticizing him on this forum would suddenly become huge fans.

That just doesnt sit well with me.

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Nope. I wouldn't be a huge fan of his. I'd be very thankful for his contribution. I don't dislike the man now. I'm just saying he's not deserving of the exalted alumnus status that's been given him by some simply because of his fame. Heck, Karl Malone has done infinitely more for Tech than Phil Robertson, but yet he is vilified by some of the posters who think Phil can turn water into wine simply because Karl makes demands and behaves childlike when those demands aren't met. I wonder if Karl is a Christian?

Didn't the Alumni Magazine have an article about Phil and his duck calls several years ago before he was famous?

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Originally Posted by Houston Techsan

Didn't the Alumni Magazine have an article about Phil and his duck calls several years ago before he was famous?

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Probably so, and look how much it's helped us. He was very grateful for that free advertising, I bet. I suspect that it coincided with the gift they gave us that maddawg mentioned earlier.

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Originally Posted by Dirtydawg

Probably so, and look how much it's helped us. He was very grateful for that free advertising, I bet. I suspect that it coincided with the gift they gave us that maddawg mentioned earlier.

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If there was an article I don't remember it. If I missed it, it had nothing to do with the gift Jase gave TAG.

We over look a man's character and lack or morals because he will wear Tech gear and make amounts to most of us a $100 year donation -

But we will crucify another because he could care less about anything other than faith, family and the outdoors because he could care less about anything else

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Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden

We over look a man's character and lack or morals because he will wear Tech gear and make amounts to most of us a $100 year donation -

But we will crucify another because he could care less about anything other than faith, family and the outdoors because he could care less about anything else

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I don't agree with that at all.

Both made big lack-of-character mistakes when they were younger. They were both forgiven, and both changed their ways.

The one you are questioning has since done more good for more people that any of us could ever dream of doing.

Do we really want to do this?

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Originally Posted by maddawg

Do we really want to do this?

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Don't think so.

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Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden

We over look a man's character and lack or morals because he will wear Tech gear and make amounts to most of us a $100 year donation -

But we will crucify another because he could care less about anything other than faith, family and the outdoors because he could care less about anything else

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Do you all really not understand what I'm trying to say? I never maligned Phil's morals or character. In fact, I think the world's a better place because of him and his family and all they have done. You all are getting so defensive because people point out, rightfully so, that Phil is not the model alumnus. That fact hasn't been disproved. It's only been countered by the declaration that he's a great Christian. I agree that he is a great Christian, and I'll say furthermore, I'm glad that he is able to be associated with our school. However, it was and still is my opinion that he deserves no more praise as an alumnus than others who have chosen not to be involved because their interests are not supporting Tech especially considering he was given free tuition. And for what it's worth, as far as I can see it was only one person who really attacked the character of Phil. The others who understood what I'm saying only agreed that he doesn't deserve to be exalted by Tech fans any more than those who aren't famous yet have never ceased to give of their time and money. As far as Phil being 3x the human being that Karl is, it'd be hard to know since I doubt anyone at Tech has dealt with Phil enough to see what type of donor he is. How do we know that he wouldn't be as onerous to deal with as Karl is? Personally, I'm not a fan of Karl and some of his antics, but you can't deny that as far as help to the university, Karl has done infinitely more than Phil has, but thanks for helping to prove my point.

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Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden

We over look a man's character and lack or morals because he will wear Tech gear and make amounts to most of us a $100 year donation -

But we will crucify another because he could care less about anything other than faith, family and the outdoors because he could care less about anything else

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Somehow this conversation has put people on the defensive about Phil. I am glad he is a Christian and a great one at that. I have to agree with Dirty Dawg a little in that I don't think he should be exhalted as some sort of super Tech alumnus. He is by all acounts a great human being and he does quite a bit of charity work which is wonderful. If he were more involved in Tech that would certainly boost my opinion of him. The fact that he is an alumni is basically just an interesting footnote for an interesting individual.

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Originally Posted by Dawg06

I don't agree with that at all.

Both Karl and Phil made big lack-of-character mistakes when they were younger. They were both forgiven, and both changed their ways.

Karl has since done more good for more people that any of us could ever dream of doing.

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I remember Karl taking several million dollars worth of equipment to south Mississippi and helping the folks there recover from Katrina. A lot of people never heard of this because he didn't tour all the television shows talking about it. He went to Mississippi because he didn't want to get the publicity for doing it like he would have gotten in New Orleans. Didn't he buy the floor for the TAC and buy all those weights in the fieldhouse? I bet that cost him more than $100. Has Phil Robertson ever made even a $100 donation to Tech? He's never returned to the campus and he only lives 30 miles down the road. I was in ACE hardware the other day and saw some of those little Chinese flashlights that usually quit working after you use them a couple of times with the Duck Commander stuff all over it. I expect any day to start seeing LSU stuff with the Duck Commander on it. I noticed on a website that Robertson himself is worth 15 million. If he donated to Tech a percent of his net worth compared to what a lot of us on this board donate, that would be a huge chunk of change. I won't praise Robertson because it would diminish my praise for other people that deserve it.

The people close to the situation know what I'm talking about and I will leave it at that - and I'm not talking 30+ year old issues

Everything that glitters is not always gold -

And I have never watched an episode of Duck Dynasty and probably never will so I'm not posting that as a fan of the Duck Commander -

Let me add this - I'm very appreciative for what Karl does for our University but that does change how I view him in other lights...

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Originally Posted by maddawg

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You are probably right -

I shouldn't be throwing stones

Two wealthy, famous Tech alums --

One has maintained little connection to his alma mater, but is by all accounts an admirable, stand-up kind of guy.

The other has given back a great deal to his university, but is widely whispered to be a huge jerk.


Is that pretty much it?

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Originally Posted by Champ967

Two wealthy, famous Tech alums --

One has maintained little connection to his alma mater, but is by all accounts an admirable, stand-up kind of guy.

The other has given back a great deal to his university, but is widely whispered to be a huge jerk.


Is that pretty much it?

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No it's not. Karl has helped a lot of people that don't have any ties to Tech. My son went to 2 of his basketball camps when he was around 10-12 years old. If a kid showed up at the camp without proper shoes Karl gave him a pair of shoes. I paid for my son to go to these camps, but, if kids couldn't pay for them they got in free. I've never seen a side of Karl that showed he was a jerk and he always welcomes everybody to his tailgate and he talks to anybody that wants to talk. He's been a great ambassador for Tech. I've never heard any of those whispers about what a mean person he is.

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Originally Posted by DONW

No it's not. Karl has helped a lot of people that don't have any ties to Tech. My son went to 2 of his basketball camps when he was around 10-12 years old. If a kid showed up at the camp without proper shoes Karl gave him a pair of shoes. I paid for my son to go to these camps, but, if kids couldn't pay for them they got in free. I've never seen a side of Karl that showed he was a jerk and he always welcomes everybody to his tailgate and he talks to anybody that wants to talk. He's been a great ambassador for Tech. I've never heard any of those whispers about what a mean person he is.

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I did leave out one person that may have considered him a jerk. He told a guy sitting in one of his chairs at his tailgate with an LSU hat on, to either leave or find a Tech hat.

I was red dotted for asking a legitimate question. The topic was Phil's lack of support of Tech. Some are giving him a pass bc he is a Christian. I don't see why that exempts him from our expectation that he give back to our school.

Since TylerTechsas hasn't joined in yet, let me presume to speak for him. I think it's time this thread be moved "To The Pit."

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Originally Posted by DONW

No it's not. Karl has helped a lot of people that don't have any ties to Tech. My son went to 2 of his basketball camps when he was around 10-12 years old. If a kid showed up at the camp without proper shoes Karl gave him a pair of shoes. I paid for my son to go to these camps, but, if kids couldn't pay for them they got in free. I've never seen a side of Karl that showed he was a jerk and he always welcomes everybody to his tailgate and he talks to anybody that wants to talk. He's been a great ambassador for Tech. I've never heard any of those whispers about what a mean person he is.

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I second this. One time after a game, he decided to buy supper for our entire high school basketball team for no real reason. He had no ties to our school or anyone on the team. He's always seemed to be a friendly and respectful guy to me.

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Originally Posted by DONW

No it's not. Karl has helped a lot of people that don't have any ties to Tech. My son went to 2 of his basketball camps when he was around 10-12 years old. If a kid showed up at the camp without proper shoes Karl gave him a pair of shoes. I paid for my son to go to these camps, but, if kids couldn't pay for them they got in free. I've never seen a side of Karl that showed he was a jerk and he always welcomes everybody to his tailgate and he talks to anybody that wants to talk. He's been a great ambassador for Tech. I've never heard any of those whispers about what a mean person he is.

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Great points. You also made a great point about Karl helping the needy in Mississippi immediately after Hurricane Katrina. I remember that. In fact, I've never heard ANYTHING bad about Karl Malone, save for a few snarly comments from people on this board that probably don't even know him. And most of those folks don't know what they are talking about anyway.

Whoa now. Before we start attacking each other even further, I will say I know of the reasons why those on here harbor disdain for Karl while not knowing the full details, and understand their reasoning. In fact, it's why I'm not as high on him as I once was. However, from the little bit I know, I can understand to a degree Karl's motivations for his actions.

How bout we wait till after TB asks him to join LTAC before we rake him over the coals. As to KM, I believe the man is very straightforward to the point of being blunt. A way many of us would like to be and KM has the accomplishments and the $$$ to be. I also think KM has a heart and will give those who don't have the means a chance to get somewhere. Now if you squander that chance, KM will give it to you full force. I can't fault him for any of those principles.

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Originally Posted by WWDog

How bout we wait till after TB asks him to join LTAC before we rake him over the coals. As to KM, I believe the man is very straightforward to the point of being blunt. A way many of us would like to be and KM has the accomplishments and the $$$ to be. I also think KM has a heart and will give those who don't have the means a chance to get somewhere. Now if you squander that chance, KM will give it to you full force. I can't fault him for any of those principles.

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Fabulous idea.

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Originally Posted by Chris29

I was red dotted for asking a legitimate question. The topic was Phil's lack of support of Tech. Some are giving him a pass bc he is a Christian. I don't see why that exempts him from our expectation that he give back to our school.

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Let's at least ask him before we vilify him. We helped get him to where he is, hopefully he'll recognize that.

Also, remember where KM's son plays football? Yea.

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Originally Posted by Blue Dawg

Let's at least ask him before we vilify him. We helped get him to where he is, hopefully he'll recognize that.

Also, remember where KM's son plays football? Yea.

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I don't remember us heavily recruiting KM's son. Either way, it's his son's choice. If you want to hold that against KM, then you have to throw in where Willie Robertson went to college.

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Originally Posted by Blue Dawg

Yay! Dawgmatic's back :D

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But.......you were missed.

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I missed y'all too!:)

Fwiw Phil has "set foot" on campus. While a student (85-90) I personaly attended a gathering
on campus for duck hunters. The guest speaker was Phil Robertson. So enough of the "never set foot" garbage.

So phil owes tech for his success? Did tech not get his services on the field in exchange for his education? I'd call it a draw unless tech had a duck call building course.

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Originally Posted by rabiddawg

So phil owes tech for his success? Did tech not get his services on the field in exchange for his education? I'd call it a draw unless tech had a duck call building course.

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Oh, please. I'd say based on his performance, he should pay the University back.

You know im right.

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Originally Posted by Dirtydawg

Oh, please. I'd say based on his performance, he should pay the University back.

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Originally Posted by rabiddawg

You know im right.

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lol I suspect you're on about your 4th Hennessy right now.

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Originally Posted by rabiddawg

So phil owes tech for his success? Did tech not get his services on the field in exchange for his education? I'd call it a draw unless tech had a duck call building course.

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Originally Posted by Dirtydawg

Oh, please. I'd say based on his performance, he should pay the University back.

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Yep, Dirty, and the fact is he quit on the Dawgs.......for a duck?

I doubt phil would change a thing and based on this groups attitude i cant blame him.
Think i will head over to tiggerdropins and see what sane people are discussing.

Nope. On the wagon since sunday:)

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Originally Posted by Dirtydawg

lol I suspect you're on about your 4th Hennessy right now.

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Originally Posted by rabiddawg

I doubt phil would change a thing and based on this groups attitude i cant blame him.
Think i will head over to tiggerdropins and see what sane people are discussing.

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don't let the door hit ya' where the good Lord split ya'!

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Originally Posted by Dirtydawg

Oh, please. I'd say based on his performance, he should pay the University back.

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Does that include all former student athletes, or just him?

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Originally Posted by Amos Moses

don't let the door hit ya' where the good Lord split ya'!

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Tech Family.

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Originally Posted by Blue Dawg

Also, remember where KM's son plays football? Yea.

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I believe he signed with ElEssEwe baseball. . . .

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Originally Posted by Blue Dawg

Let's at least ask him before we vilify him. We helped get him to where he is, hopefully he'll recognize that.

Also, remember where KM's son plays football? Yea.

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I don't care to ask him anything. My point was that him being Christian (or any other faith) has nothing to do with the topic being discussed.

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Originally Posted by Dirtydawg

Oh, please. I'd say based on his performance, he should pay the University back.

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How about us fans that were at Tech at that time. We should be able to sue him for punitive damages for having to watch him try to impersonate a QB and keeping Bradshaw on the bench.

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Originally Posted by turbodawg

Does that include all former student athletes, or just him?

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You might be on to something. Although, I suspect you know I wasn't serious. Just pointing out that he wasn't as great a player as rabiddawg seems to think.

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Originally Posted by Amos Moses

don't let the door hit ya' where the good Lord split ya'!

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He's just trying to rile you up. He don't care about no tiggers. Although I am beginning to wonder about his fascination with who he calls UL known to us as ULL.

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Originally Posted by rabiddawg

I doubt phil would change a thing and based on this groups attitude i cant blame him.
Think i will head over to tiggerdropins and see what sane people are discussing.

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You have been smoking some very good stuff if you thing those at tigerdropins are sane.:laugh:

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Originally Posted by Cal&Ken

You have been smoking some very good stuff if you thing those at tigerdropins are sane.:laugh:

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As DD already said, Rabbid is kidding guys. He has the same feelings about the tiggers as many of us here do.

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Originally Posted by FriscoDog

As DD already said, Rabbid is kidding guys. He has the same feelings about the tiggers as many of us here do.

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See emoticon.:D

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Originally Posted by Chris29

I don't care to ask him anything. My point was that him being Christian (or any other faith) has nothing to do with the topic being discussed.

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Which I agree with.

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Originally Posted by Chris29

I don't care to ask him anything. My point was that him being Christian (or any other faith) has nothing to do with the topic being discussed.

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Are you sure? Who remembers what the point being discussed was?

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Originally Posted by Dawgpix

Terry Bradshaw was on Mike and Mike this a.m.

Terry said he and Phil gonna be on Tonight Show this Friday.
TB said he'll ask Phil when he'll have TB on Duck Dynasty.
"I'll say, 'When you gonna have me on your show? You've used my name enough'."

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I have not seen anything other than here indicating the Phil will join TB tonight. Anyone else have confirmation?

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Originally Posted by CaseyDawg

I have not seen anything other than here indicating the Phil will join TB tonight. Anyone else have confirmation?

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What TB said.

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Originally Posted by Houston Techsan

Are you sure? Who remembers what the point being discussed was?

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Bradshaw does weight loss commercials, CTB commercials, and loves Tech. Karl is a jerk to some, nice to others, and loves Tech most of the time according to most on the board. Phil used to be a schmuck, turned his life around, and doesn't express love or disdain for his alma-mater. Pick one and go.

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Bradshaw does weight loss commercials, CTB commercials, and loves Tech. Karl is a jerk to some, nice to others, and loves Tech most of the time according to most on the board. Phil used to be a schmuck, turned his life around, and doesn't express love or disdain for his alma-mater. Pick one and go.

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And there is the root of the problem. The actual point was that Phil deserves no greater reverence as a Tech alum because he hasn't been involved with his alma mater, and he only gets it because he is famous.

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And there is the root of the problem. The actual point was that Phil deserves no greater reverence as a Tech alum because he hasn't been involved with his alma mater, and he only gets it because he is famous.

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Another way to look at - Tech had a lot to do with TB and Malone honing their skills that allowed them to be famous, with Phil it was the exact opposite...

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Another way to look at - Tech had a lot to do with TB and Malone honing their skills that allowed them to be famous, with Phil it was the exact opposite...

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I thought he earned a business degree from Tech?

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I thought he earned a business degree from Tech?

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I thought it was education, but still, the point was that Tech gave TB and Malone a platform for sports. Phil started his business in a shed behind his house and earned food money as a commercial fisherman.

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And there is the root of the problem. The actual point was that Phil deserves no greater reverence as a Tech alum because he hasn't been involved with his alma mater, and he only gets it because he is famous.

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Another way to look at - Tech had a lot to do with TB and Malone honing their skills that allowed them to be famous, with Phil it was the exact opposite...

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The fact of the matter is Tech awarded Phil a free education and he proceeded to do nothing with it until he averted back to his true love.......hunting. I know the argument some will make.....his education wasn't free because he played football for the school, thus quid pro quo. I do not buy that argument. He was set up with a fine education.

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The fact of the matter is Tech awarded Phil a free education and he proceeded to do nothing with it until he averted back to his true love.......hunting. I know the argument some will make.....his education wasn't free because he played football for the school, thus quid pro quo. I do not buy that argument. He was set up with a fine education.

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So he should have used his Tech education and remained a teacher?:icon_wink: Ironically, his teaching credentials probably helped him in what he considers important (his ministry) while the school of hard knocks taught him how to get by in the business world.

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So he should have used his Tech education and remained a teacher?:icon_wink: Ironically, his teaching credentials probably helped him in what he considers important (his ministry) while the school of hard knocks taught him how to get by in the business world.

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Somehow I cannot picture Phil with a foot-long beard standing in front of a bunch of junior high kids asking if they are happy, happy, happy!

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Another way to look at - Tech had a lot to do with TB and Malone honing their skills that allowed them to be famous, with Phil it was the exact opposite...

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I thought it was education, but still, the point was that Tech gave TB and Malone a platform for sports. Phil started his business in a shed behind his house and earned food money as a commercial fisherman.

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Dangit, guys. Is it really so hard to understand? It has nothing to do with what made anyone famous. The only thing fame has to do with this conversation is the fact that it's the ONLY reason Phil is getting any respect on this board, well that and his Christianity. He isn't getting any respect because of his devotion to Tech. Do you guys really not see the distinction?

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Dangit, guys. Is it really so hard to understand? It has nothing to do with what made anyone famous. The only thing fame has to do with this conversation is the fact that it's the ONLY reason Phil is getting any respect on this board, well that and his Christianity. He isn't getting any respect because of his devotion to Tech. Do you guys really not see the distinction?

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It's called a discussion. A moving target.

You are obsessed with a famous Tech grad not being a fan. I explained on page one that he doesn't care about anything outside of his faith. It's not complicated, but some of our fans hold famous grad$ to a higher standard than little known grad$.

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Dangit, guys. Is it really so hard to understand? It has nothing to do with what made anyone famous. The only thing fame has to do with this conversation is the fact that it's the ONLY reason Phil is getting any respect on this board, well that and his Christianity. He isn't getting any respect because of his devotion to Tech. Do you guys really not see the distinction?

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nope its the double standard that I see

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It's called a discussion. A moving target.

You are obsessed with a famous Tech grad not being a fan. I explained on page one that he doesn't care about anything outside of his faith. It's not complicated, but some of our fans hold famous grad$ to a higher standard than little known grad$.

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To whom much is given...

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To whom much is given...

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I have a feeling that Phil is one of the few famous ones who actually tithe....

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It's called a discussion. A moving target.

You are obsessed with a famous Tech grad not being a fan. I explained on page one that he doesn't care about anything outside of his faith. It's not complicated, but some of our fans hold famous grad$ to a higher standard than little known grad$.

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I think that that is the exact problem that Dirty Dawg is pointing out. That you guys are holding him to a lower standard than little known grads because of his fame. While being a Tech alum and having strong faith would gain many people's respect on this board (mine included), I haven't ever heard anyone throwing out examples of other Tech grads who have really strong faith for Tech fans to honor as outstanding alumni. The only person close I can think of is Denny Duron, and if he weren't part of some of our greatest football success he probably wouldn't be brought up much.

The point is that we aren't talking about Phil because of his business success, his alumni athlete status, or his faith. We are talking about him because of his fame.

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The main reason I refuse to watch the show.

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Until the show, the only place he had been besides the duck blind was Church and that's not much of an exaggeration. I know a lot of Tech grads who never go back to Tech. Different ones have different reasons for not coming back. Every Tech grad is not passionate about Tech Athletics.

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I'm aware of that, but I see no reason to hold them to different standards than others.

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Seems you ARE holding him to different standards. He doesn't care about the things many of us care about. Do you disassociate with ANY Tech grad who doesn't support Tech Athletics? That would be a pretty long list.

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The point is that we aren't talking about Phil because of his business success, his alumni athlete status, or his faith. We are talking about him because of his fame.

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Actually we have talked about all of these.

I have no problem with a Tech Alumn who does not support Tech as long as they have other priorities that don't include another FBS program.

Well, If not for his faith and connection with Tech, I'd just as soon watch "chutum," or swamp people, or whatever! Personally, since he and his brother were at Tech while I was blessed to be there, I have an interest for more than curiosity. Donno 'bout no standards, 'n stuff.

I was doing some research today and came across this photo of Civil War General Albert Pike:

http://www.encyclopediaofarkansas.ne...ike_pipe_f.jpg


who I am convinced MUST be kin to our distinguished alum:

http://www.therichest.org/cdn/300/30...-robertson.jpg

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Actually we have talked about all of these.

I have no problem with a Tech Alumn who does not support Tech as long as they have other priorities that don't include another FBS program.

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Looking at all those quotes, you are quite confused. Where does it show that I hold him to different standards? As detlu pointed out, my point is that others on here who demean alumni that don't have an interest in supporting Tech whether they support another FBS program or not hold him to a different standard. It seems that Phil is the only one that can have other interests than supporting Tech not including other FBS programs and still be considered a good alumnus.

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Looking at all those quotes, you are quite confused. Where does it show that I hold him to different standards? As detlu pointed out, my point is that others on here who demean alumni that don't have an interest in supporting Tech whether they support another FBS program or not hold him to a different standard. It seems that Phil is the only one that can have other interests than supporting Tech not including other FBS programs and still be considered a good alumnus.

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Good point. I expect everyone to give back - maybe that means sending a check, maybe that means telling the young people you know what a great opportunity it is. Maybe it means a football game if that's your thing. It sure doesn't involve supporting any other FBS school.

#techfamily
#selfrighteousbullshit

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#techfamily
#selfrighteousbullshit

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Proud of it :D

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Looking at all those quotes, you are quite confused. Where does it show that I hold him to different standards? As detlu pointed out, my point is that others on here who demean alumni that don't have an interest in supporting Tech whether they support another FBS program or not hold him to a different standard. It seems that Phil is the only one that can have other interests than supporting Tech not including other FBS programs and still be considered a good alumnus.

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Did somebody say he was a good alumnus? I didn't, but you implied he was a bad one. I argued your bad point, when I said he doesn't care about supporting Tech because he has other, more important, priorities. It's not complicated.

Final post on this topic. So there is no misunderstanding. I couldn't care less what Phil Robertson does with his life. I couldn't care less if he ever supports Tech or not. I couldn't care less if he spends every morning during duck season bumping a stump for luck before the ducks fly over over head.(sorry. I'm alliterate) I hold no ill will or consider him less of a person for not supporting Tech. As I've said many times, I'm the last person that can throw that stone.

This is like a reunion segment of the Real Housewives of Ruston.

I still haven't seen anything that gives me a reason to praise him on this board. Hunting ducks and having a reality TV show does not make a man great for me. I don't even know why we're even discussing him on here since he hasn't been back to Tech since he left with 2 degrees. If he doesn't want anything to do with Tech, that's his right. I watched one of his shows and that was more than enough for me. All I saw out of that one show was that he gave liberals in favor of gun control a lot of ammunition by carelessly handling a gun. I got mad as hell just watching it.

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Did somebody say he was a good alumnus? I didn't, but you implied he was a bad one. I argued your bad point, when I said he doesn't care about supporting Tech because he has other, more important, priorities. It's not complicated.

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Some can walk and chew bubble gum at the same time, some can't.

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Some can walk and chew bubble gum at the same time, some can't.

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Brilliant post!!!!!!!!

To keep this thread alive . . . . . here's Nico van Thyn's take. If you don't follow Nico's blogs, you might want to IMHO.

http://nvanthyn.blogspot.com/2013/06...-and-4-16.html

Great read...

Thanks Dawgpix. Good article, but even Nico can't seem to get Phil's class right. He says Phil was a red shirt freshman in 1964 when he meant "red shirted freshman". Johnny Football was a red shirt freshman last year. To me red shirt freshman means the player is in his second year (normally sophomore) year with four years of eligibility left. Since Phil obviously had one more year of eligibility for the fall of 1968 (that he didn't use) he was a freshman of some sort in the fall of 1965 (red shirt freshman). As I have said before he did play some behind Billy Laird in the fall of 1965 and even threw a few passes.