2014-15 Bowl Chatter and Predictions

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Originally Posted by THEarmada

How is the CUSA western division decided? Best record versus teams in the west or best overall CUSA record?

I tried looking on the CUSA website but couldn't find a clear answer.

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http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/.../tiebraker.pdf

1. Overall CUSA record.
2. Head-to-head.
3. Winning percentage in division.

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Originally Posted by inudesu

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/.../tiebraker.pdf

1. Overall CUSA record.
2. Head-to-head.
3. Winning percentage in division.

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Gracias

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Originally Posted by inudesu

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/.../tiebraker.pdf

1. Overall CUSA record.
2. Head-to-head.
3. Winning percentage in division.

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Anybody with insights on why they chose to use overall CUSA record vs. divisional record? Sucks for teams that play tougher eastern division teams (ie Rice vs Marshall). I would think using the division record lets you see how teams stack up against the same competition.

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Originally Posted by THEarmada

Anybody with insights on why they chose to use overall CUSA record vs. divisional record? Sucks for teams that play tougher eastern division teams (ie Rice vs Marshall). I would think using the division record lets you see how teams stack up against the same competition.

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I'm pretty sure that's the standard for 2 division conferences in football. It's one (of several) reasons I'm not crazy about having so many teams per "conference."

And it's why you used to hear SEC fans complain about their system with the permanent rivalries (at least the ones with good programs for rivals, didn't ever hear much complaining about whoever gets Vandy or Kentucky every year).

CUSA is actually even less fair than normal this season because our divisions are unbalanced, so some teams from the East aren't even playing all their division-mates.

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Originally Posted by THEarmada

Anybody with insights on why they chose to use overall CUSA record vs. divisional record? Sucks for teams that play tougher eastern division teams (ie Rice vs Marshall). I would think using the division record lets you see how teams stack up against the same competition.

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Ostensibly, all the teams in a given conference are at roughly the same level of competitiveness. That's why they elected to associate with one another.

But you don't know who the tougher teams in a given season until the season begins. The previous year's results might help one make an educated guess, but the schedules are made years in advance.

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Originally Posted by inudesu

And it's why you used to hear SEC fans complain about their system with the permanent rivalries (at least the ones with good programs for rivals, didn't ever hear much complaining about whoever gets Vandy or Kentucky every year).

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Having not paid that much attention but having a peripheral interest in the SEC, I always thought the division champions were determined by division record but apparently that's incorrect. I also always assumed the fuss about the permanent out of conference mates was that it made being undefeated/one-loss more difficult and therefore making getting into the BCS harder.

I guess I assumed that because the NFL division record is the only thing that matters in division rankings unless there's a tie.

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Originally Posted by Champ967

Ostensibly, all the teams in a given conference are at roughly the same level of competitiveness. That's why they elected to associate with one another.

But you don't know who the tougher teams in a given season until the season begins. The previous year's results might help one make an educated guess, but the schedules are made years in advance.

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And unless you're using the traditional rivals model (which would make no sense in the current CUSA) they're random and they rotate and (starting next season) it's only 2/8 games anyway.

But yeah, it sure can affect divisional races (Rice has to go to Marshall, we don't this season).

By the time you get to 14 teams (or 12 in my humble opinion) a conference starts looking more like the way the NFL uses the word then the way the NCAA has traditionally used the word. Eventually, we may end up at a point where divisions within bigger conferences basically become what we used to refer to as "conferences."

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Originally Posted by THEarmada

I guess I assumed that because the NFL division record is the only thing that matters in division rankings unless there's a tie.

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One more wave of conference expansion and we'll be there. 7 team divisions already share conferences with teams they barely play.

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Originally Posted by THEarmada

Having not paid that much attention but having a peripheral interest in the SEC, I always thought the division champions were determined by division record but apparently that's incorrect. I also always assumed the fuss about the permanent out of conference mates was that it made being undefeated/one-loss more difficult and therefore making getting into the BCS harder.

I guess I assumed that because the NFL division record is the only thing that matters in division rankings unless there's a tie.

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NFL division champs are decided by overall record - tie-breakers use division rankings

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TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION

If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined.

http://www.nfl.com/standings?categor...&split=Overall

Last year, Cincy had a worse division record than Pitt and won division.
Cowboys had best NFC East division record (5-1) and did not win division
Lions had best NFC North record and did not win division

Two Clubs

1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss

Three or More Clubs

(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).

1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss

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Thanks for the info. I'm surprised by that, I guess I need to pay more attention.

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Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden

I just want to play in a bowl

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Me, too. And with the sting of the NSU debacle still lingering in my mind, and our offense's struggles with UTSA, I can't commit to odds any better than 50/50 that we'll close the deal this season. We could win out, or we could lose a couple more that should be gimmes.

I was at the last Bowl game by Penn State and it was at this Location and Houston
University beat them in a very good game!

The HOD Bowl has always been on Jan 1 but the article in The Dallas Morning News said
it would be on Dec 26th this yr. Much better for folks to attend!

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Originally Posted by ETXBULLDOG

The HOD Bowl has always been on Jan 1 but the article in The Dallas Morning News said
it would be on Dec 26th this yr. Much better for folks to attend!

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Noon the day after Christmas is pretty rough for people coming from out of town. You either have to spend Christmas in Dallas or leave super early the day after Christmas.

True but I think the Indy Bowl is Dec 27th! I sure would like for our fans to make a Bowl
a priority vs always finding an excuse for not attending! But they are used to it for Home
football games! Many think of Tech as small and by their actions make it appear that way!

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Originally Posted by ETXBULLDOG

True but I think the Indy Bowl is Dec 27th! I sure would like for our fans to make a Bowl
a priority vs always finding an excuse for not attending! But they are used to it for Home
football games! Many think of Tech as small and by their actions make it appear that way!

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You would have to understand the dynamics of whom will attend Tech games and where. Our Indy Bowl crowds are generally our season ticket holding fanatics, local Shreveport-Bossier area alumni that don't normally care about regular season football games or will not make the committment to drive to Ruston, several thousands Tech students (that live in Shreveport/Bossier area and their friends, the casual football fan with no ties to Tech but will support a bowl game once a year and several thousand LSU fans and/or bandwaggon fans that cannot get tix to wherever LSU is playing. This usually amounts to 30K to 40k there for us at the Indy Bowl.

A regular season game in Shreveport will not garner the same support from non-Tech fans unless we are playing a top 20 team & have a legitimate opportunity to win. See games against Miami, SMU, Cal...etc. Also, games here tend to be light on support from some of our regular Ruston attendees.

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Originally Posted by Dawg06

HOD isn't on ESPNU anymore. It's on the main mothership channel now that ESPN owns it.

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The reason is actually more that it is no longer competing with the bigger boys on New Years Day.

i personally think we need to give Bruce VD a part time job and let him make bowl arrangements ....

I think the new WHITE helmets are worth another TD for LA Tech. BOOM!!!

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Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden

Zaxby's sucks...

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Originally Posted by THEarmada

Anybody with insights on why they chose to use overall CUSA record vs. divisional record? Sucks for teams that play tougher eastern division teams (ie Rice vs Marshall). I would think using the division record lets you see how teams stack up against the same competition.

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Wouldn't overall CUSA record always decide the champ?

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Originally Posted by RougeDawg

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They are HORRRRIBBBLLEEE

Right up there with Pizza Hut

Projections as of 10/27/14	College Sports Magic		Jerry Palm (CBS Sports)		Brett McMurphy (ESPN)		Mark Schlabach (ESPN)		College Football News
Birmingham Bowl							UAB (4-4)	Memphis (American 4-3)
Boca Raton Bowl	UAB (4-4)	Akron (MAC 4-4)	LA Tech (5-3)	C. Michigan (MAC 5-4)	UAB (4-4)	Toldeo (MAC 5-3)	MTSU (5-3)	Bowling Green (MAC 5-3)	UTEP (4-3)	N. Illinois (MAC 6-2)
Duck Commander Independence Bowl					UTEP (4-3)	Miami (FL) (ACC 5-3)			LA Tech (5-3)	Boston College (ACC 5-3)
Gildan New Mexico Bowl	LA Tech (5-3)	Colorado State (MWC 7-1)	Rice (4-3)	Utah State (MWC 5-3)	Rice (4-3)	Utah State (MWC 5-3)	UTEP (4-3)	Air Force (MWC 5-2)	Marshall (8-0)	Utah State (MWC 5-3)
Popeyes Bahamas Bowl	Marshall (8-0)	Bowling Green (MAC 5-3)	MTSU (5-3)	W. Michigan (MAC 5-3)	LA Tech (5-3)	W. Michigan (MAC 5-3)	Marshall (8-0)	N. Illinois (MAC 6-2)	MTSU (5-3)	Toldeo (MAC 5-3)
Sheraton Hawaii Bowl	MTSU (5-3)	Fresno State (MWC 3-5)	UAB (4-4)	Nevada (MWC 5-3)	MTSU (5-3)	Air Force (MWC 5-2)	LA Tech (5-3)	Boise State (MWC 6-2)
Zaxby's Heart of Dallas	Rice (4-3)	Texas State (Sun Belt 4-3)	Marshall (8-0)	Iowa (B10 5-2)	Marshall (8-0)	Rutgers (B10 5-3)	Rice (4-3)	Penn State (B10 4-3)	Rice (4-3)	Maryland (B10 5-3)

Marshall is now showing up as a projected team for one of the Selection Committee bowls on some lists since East Carolina lost yesterday. Very interesting. Two "experts" are showing LA Tech going to the Independence Bowl. If Marshall goes to a "big" bowl and we win the West, do we get to choose where we go? It seems like it should work that way.

Projections as of 11/2/14

College Sports Magic

Jerry Palm (CBS Sports)

Brett McMurphy (ESPN)

Mark Schlabach (ESPN)

College Football News

Phil Steele (Updated 10/27)

Birmingham Bowl

UAB (5-4)

Memphis (American 5-3)

UAB (5-4)

S. Carolina (SEC 4-5)

Boca Raton Bowl

UAB (5-4)

Akron (MAC 4-4)

LA Tech (6-3)

C. Michigan (MAC 6-4)

UAB (5-4)

Toldeo (MAC 5-3)

MTSU (5-4)

Bowling Green (MAC 5-3)

UTEP (5-3)

N. Illinois (MAC 6-2)

Rice (5-3)

W. Michigan (MAC 6-3)

Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl

Marshall (8-0)

UCLA (PAC 12 7-2)

Marshall (8-0)

Ole MS (SEC 7-2)

Duck Commander Independence Bowl

UTEP (5-3)

VA Tech (ACC 4-5)

LA Tech (6-3)

Pittsburgh (ACC 4-5)

LA Tech (6-3)

Virginia (ACC 4-5)

Fiesta Bowl

Marshall (8-0)

Kansas State (B12 7-1)

Marshall (8-0)

Notre Dame (IND 7-1)

Gildan New Mexico Bowl

LA Tech (6-3)

Colorado State (MWC 8-1)

UTEP (5-3)

Utah State (MWC 6-3)

Rice (5-3)

Utah State (MWC 6-3)

UTEP (5-3)

Nevada (MWC 6-3)

Popeyes Bahamas Bowl

UTEP (5-3)

Bowling Green (MAC 5-3)

MTSU (5-4)

W. Michigan (MAC 6-3)

LA Tech (6-3)

W. Michigan (MAC 6-3)

Marshall (8-0)

N. Illinois (MAC 6-2)

MTSU (5-4)

Toldeo (MAC 5-3)

LA Tech (6-3)

N. Illinois (MAC 6-2)

Sheraton Hawaii Bowl

MTSU (5-4)

Nevada (MWC 6-3)

UAB (5-4)

Nevada (MWC 6-3)

MTSU (5-4)

Air Force (MWC 6-2)

MTSU (5-4)

Fresno State (MWC 3-6)

Zaxby's Heart of Dallas Bowl

Rice (5-3)

Texas State (Sun Belt 5-3)

Rice (5-3)

Rutgers (B10 5-4)

Marshall (8-0)

Maryland (B10 6-3)

Rice (5-3)

Rutgers (B10 5-4)

Rice (5-3)

Maryland (B10 6-3)

Bowl eligible team projection using Sagarin Predictor through games of November 1

Bowl-eligible teams by conference (45* total)
AAC (1)--East Carolina (6-2)
ACC (7)--Florida State (8-0), Clemson (6-2), Boston College (6-3), Louisville (6-3), Duke (7-1), Georgia Tech (7-2), Miami FL (6-3)
Big 12 (5)--Kansas State (7-1), TCU (7-1), Baylor (7-1), West Virginia (6-3), Oklahoma (6-2)
Big Ten (7)--Michigan State (7-1), Ohio State (7-1), Maryland (6-3), Nebraska (8-1), Wisconsin (6-2), Iowa (6-2), Minnesota (6-2)
C-USA (2)--Marshall (8-0), Louisiana Tech (6-3)
Independent (1)--Notre Dame (7-1)
MAC (3)--Western Michigan (6-3), Northern Illinois (6-2), Central Michigan (6-4)
MWC (4)--Colorado State (8-1), Boise State (6-2), Air Force (6-2), Nevada (6-3)
Pac 12 (6)--Oregon (8-1), Arizona State (7-1), Utah (6-2), USC (6-3), UCLA (7-2), Arizona (6-2)
$EC (8)--Missouri (7-2), Georgia (6-2), Mississippi State (8-0), Alabama (7-1), Auburn (7-1), Ole Miss (7-2), LSU (7-2), Texas A&M (6-3)
Sun Belt (1*)--Georgia Southern* (7-2, can only be selected as a transitional FBS member if fewer than 76 other teams qualify)

Teams projected bowl-eligible (31)
AAC (5)--Memphis (5-3, proj 9-3), UCF (5-3, proj 8-4), Cincinnati (5-3, proj 8-4), Houston (5-3, proj 8-4), Temple (5-3, proj 7-5)
ACC (3)--North Carolina State (5-4, proj 6-6), North Carolina (4-5, proj 6-6), Virginia Tech (4-5, proj 6-6)
Big 12 (0)
Big Ten (2)--Rutgers (5-4, proj 6-6), Penn State (4-4, proj 7-5)
C-USA (5)--Middle Tennessee (5-4, proj 7-5), UAB (5-4, proj 6-6), Western Kentucky (3-5, proj 6-6), Rice (5-3, proj 7-5), UTEP (5-3, proj 7-5)
Independent (2)--BYU (5-4, proj 8-4, Miami Beach Bowl), Navy (4-5, proj 6-6, Poinsettia Bowl)
MAC (4)--Bowling Green (5-3, proj 7-5), Akron (4-4, proj 8-4), Toledo (5-3, proj 9-3), Ball State (3-5, proj 6-6)
MWC (2)--Utah State (6-3, proj 9-4), San Diego State (4-4, proj 7-5)
Pac 12 (2)--Stanford (5-4, proj 7-5), Washington (6-3, proj 8-5)
$EC (2)--Florida (4-3, proj 7-4), Tennessee (4-5, proj 7-5)
Sun Belt (4)--ULL (5-3, proj 9-3), Arkansas State (5-3, proj 9-3), Texas State (5-3, proj 6-6), South Alabama (5-3, proj 6-6)

Teams projected not bowl-eligible (36)
AAC (3)--USF (3-6, proj 4-8), Tulane (2-6, proj 2-10), Connecticut (2-6, proj 4-8)
ACC (4)--Syracuse (3-6, proj 3-9), Wake Forest (2-6, proj 2-10), Pittsburgh (4-5, proj 5-7), Virginia (4-5, proj 4-8)
Big 12 (5)--Oklahoma State (5-4, proj 5-7), Texas (4-5, proj 5-7), Texas Tech (3-6, proj 3-9), Iowa State (2-6, proj 4-8), Kansas (2-6, proj 2-10)
Big Ten (5)--Michigan (4-5, proj 4-8), Indiana (3-5, proj 4-8), Northwestern (3-5, proj 5-7), Illinois (4-5, proj 4-8), Purdue (3-6, proj 4-8)
C-USA (5)--Florida Atlantic (3-6, proj 4-8), FIU (3-6, proj 3-9), UTSA (2-6, proj 4-8), Southern Miss (3-6, proj 3-9), North Texas (2-6, proj 4-8)
Independent (1)--Army (2-6, two FCS teams on schedule, proj 2-10, Armed Forces Bowl bid projected open)
MAC (2)--Ohio (4-5, proj 5-7), Buffalo (3-5, proj 4-8)
MWC (4)--Wyoming (4-5, proj 5-7), New Mexico (3-5, proj 3-9), San Jose State (3-5, proj 4-8), Fresno State (3-6, proj 5-7)
Pac 12 (2)--California (5-4, proj 5-7), Oregon State (4-4, proj 5-7)
$EC (4)--Kentucky (5-4, proj 5-7), South Carolina (4-5, proj 5-7), Vanderbilt (3-6, proj 3-9), Arkansas (4-5, proj 4-8)
Sun Belt (1)--ULM (3-5, proj 4-8),

Teams already eliminated (16)
AAC (2)--Tulsa (1-7), SMU (0-7)
ACC (0)
Big 12 (0)
Big Ten (0)
C-USA (1)--Old Dominion (3-6, FBS Transition)
Independent (0)
MAC (4)--Massachusetts (2-7), Miami OH (2-8), Kent State (1-7), Eastern Michigan (2-7)
MWC (2)--Hawai'i (2-7), UNLV (2-7)
Pac 12 (2)--Washington State (2-7), Colorado (2-7)
$EC (0)
Sun Belt (5)--Appalachian State (3-5, FBS Transition), New Mexico State (2-7), Troy (1-8), Idaho (1-7), Georgia State (1-8)

Projected conference champions or championship game matchups
AAC--Memphis (projected 9-3, 7-1); 4 teams projected tied with 6-2 conference record
ACC--Florida State (projected 12-0, 8-0) vs Duke (projected 11-1, 7-1)
Big 12--TCU (projected 11-1, 8-1); 3 teams projected tied with 7-2 conference record
Big Ten--Michigan State (projected 11-1, 8-0) vs Wisconsin (projected 10-2, 7-1)
C-USA--Marshall (projected 12-0, 8-0) vs Louisiana Tech (projected 9-3, 8-0)
MAC--Akron (projected 8-4, 6-2) vs Toledo (projected 9-3, 8-0)
MWC--Boise State (projected 10-2, 7-1) vs Nevada (projected 9-3, 6-2)
Pac 12--Oregon (projected 11-1, 8-1) vs UCLA (projected 10-2, 7-2); UCLA won head to head game over Arizona State (projected 9-3, 7-2)
$EC—Alabama (projected 11-1, 7-1) vs Florida, Georgia, or Missouri (all projected 5-3 $EC)
Sun Belt--Georgia Southern (projected 10-2, 8-0) and ULL (projected 9-3, 8-0) projected co-champions

Wasn't going to post in this thread until we became elgible. I think IF we make it to the championship game we will end up in Dallas, win or lose. We win, I believe we get first choice. We lose, Marshall may go to a bigger bowl. If they don't, I could see their coaching staff rewarding their undefeated season with a trip to the Bahamas. With that said, still way too much season left to have any clue.

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Originally Posted by DJDAWG

HoD Bowl, hands down. Need to continue building that relationship and send 25k to the game.

At some point, start playing UNT/Rice/UTEP/UTSA yearly during the Texas State Fair. Oklahoma does this, giving up a home game every other year, and they have reaped HUGE recruiting benefits.

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. 100% agree

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Originally Posted by Black

Wasn't going to post in this thread until we became elgible. I think IF we make it to the championship game we will end up in Dallas, win or lose. We win, I believe we get first choice. We lose, Marshall may go to a bigger bowl. If they don't, I could see their coaching staff rewarding their undefeated season with a trip to the Bahamas. With that said, still way too much season left to have any clue.

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. Leave it to Bruce-- he will do what's right

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Originally Posted by Brian96

Me, too. And with the sting of the NSU debacle still lingering in my mind, and our offense's struggles with UTSA, I can't commit to odds any better than 50/50 that we'll close the deal this season. We could win out, or we could lose a couple more that should be gimmes.

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. Love the positive energy-- you are very astute -- we are only averaging 44 points a game in CUSA and giving up 18. Diaz will probably forget how to coach/motivate and we will lose to Old Dominio who gave up 66 points to WK-- I need to cancel my flight and hotel for OD game --

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Originally Posted by Dogsince65

. Leave it to Bruce-- he will do what's right

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Dallas or I-Bowl - both should have "name" opponent - big 10/ACC - i believe Shreveport gives a more exposure - ABC

With ECU's loss, the spotlight will be on Marshall and the CUSA championship. I say we go in there and ruin everything!!

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Originally Posted by NavyBulldog1

With ECU's loss, the spotlight will be on Marshall and the CUSA championship. I say we go in there and ruin everything!!

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Open collusion will be become the reality.

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Originally Posted by JuBru

Open collusion will be become the reality.

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If our coaches see that there is outright effort to prevent us from winning a game, that is the one time I would approve of coaches telling players to give refs a reason to throw flags. Blow guys out of their shoes, knock them out of the game, and make tackles with the ref right between them and the ball carrier. Put everyone including he zebra on their backs.

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Originally Posted by techman05

If our coaches see that there is outright effort to prevent us from winning a game, that is the one time I would approve of coaches telling players to give refs a reason to throw flags. Blow guys out of their shoes, knock them out of the game, and make tackles with the ref right between them and the ball carrier. Put everyone including he zebra on their backs.

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Getting players suspended for a bowl game would do no one any good.

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Originally Posted by RealityCheck

Getting players suspended for a bowl game would do no one any good.

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Thanks for the RC, RC. At least Marshall would be playing their bowl game half cocked with about 15 guys sidelined by injury. I know it would do us no good, but something has to give because conferences and the NCAA never really punish anyone for breaking a rule.

As of 11/3/14

Projections as of 11/3/14

College Sports Magic

Jerry Palm (CBS Sports)

Brett McMurphy (ESPN)

Mark Schlabach (ESPN)

College Football News

Phil Steele

Birmingham Bowl

UAB (5-4)

Memphis (American 5-3)

UAB (5-4)

S. Carolina (SEC 4-5)

Boca Raton Bowl

UAB (5-4)

Akron (MAC 4-4)

LA Tech (6-3)

C. Michigan (MAC 6-4)

UAB (5-4)

Toldeo (MAC 5-3)

MTSU (5-4)

Bowling Green (MAC 5-3)

UTEP (5-3)

N. Illinois (MAC 6-2)

Rice (5-3)

W. Michigan (MAC 6-3)

Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl

Marshall (8-0)

UCLA (PAC 12 7-2)

Marshall (8-0)

Ole MS (SEC 7-2)

Duck Commander Independence Bowl

UTEP (5-3)

VA Tech (ACC 4-5)

LA Tech (6-3)

Pittsburgh (ACC 4-5)

LA Tech (6-3)

Virginia (ACC 4-5)

Fiesta Bowl

Marshall (8-0)

Kansas State (B12 7-1)

Marshall (8-0)

Notre Dame (IND 7-1)

Gildan New Mexico Bowl

LA Tech (6-3)

Colorado State (MWC 8-1)

UTEP (5-3)

Utah State (MWC 6-3)

Rice (5-3)

Utah State (MWC 6-3)

UTEP (5-3)

Nevada (MWC 6-3)

UAB (5-4)

Utah State (MWC 6-3)

Popeyes Bahamas Bowl

UTEP (5-3)

Bowling Green (MAC 5-3)

MTSU (5-4)

W. Michigan (MAC 6-3)

LA Tech (6-3)

W. Michigan (MAC 6-3)

Marshall (8-0)

N. Illinois (MAC 6-2)

MTSU (5-4)

Toldeo (MAC 5-3)

LA Tech (6-3)

N. Illinois (MAC 6-2)

Sheraton Hawaii Bowl

MTSU (5-4)

Nevada (MWC 6-3)

UAB (5-4)

Nevada (MWC 6-3)

MTSU (5-4)

Air Force (MWC 6-2)

MTSU (5-4)

Air Force (MWC 6-2)

Zaxby's Heart of Dallas Bowl

Rice (5-3)

Texas State (Sun Belt 5-3)

Rice (5-3)

Rutgers (B10 5-4)

Marshall (8-0)

Maryland (B10 6-3)

Rice (5-3)

Rutgers (B10 5-4)

Rice (5-3)

Maryland (B10 6-3)

UTEP (5-3)

Texas State (Sun Belt 5-3)

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As of 11/3/14

Projections as of 11/3/14

College Sports Magic

Jerry Palm (CBS Sports)

Brett McMurphy (ESPN)

Mark Schlabach (ESPN)

College Football News

Phil Steele

Birmingham Bowl

UAB (5-4)

Memphis (American 5-3)

UAB (5-4)

S. Carolina (SEC 4-5)

Boca Raton Bowl

UAB (5-4)

Akron (MAC 4-4)

LA Tech (6-3)

C. Michigan (MAC 6-4)

UAB (5-4)

Toldeo (MAC 5-3)

MTSU (5-4)

Bowling Green (MAC 5-3)

UTEP (5-3)

N. Illinois (MAC 6-2)

Rice (5-3)

W. Michigan (MAC 6-3)

Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl

Marshall (8-0)

UCLA (PAC 12 7-2)

Marshall (8-0)

Ole MS (SEC 7-2)

Duck Commander Independence Bowl

UTEP (5-3)

VA Tech (ACC 4-5)

LA Tech (6-3)

Pittsburgh (ACC 4-5)

LA Tech (6-3)

Virginia (ACC 4-5)

Fiesta Bowl

Marshall (8-0)

Kansas State (B12 7-1)

Marshall (8-0)

Notre Dame (IND 7-1)

Gildan New Mexico Bowl

LA Tech (6-3)

Colorado State (MWC 8-1)

UTEP (5-3)

Utah State (MWC 6-3)

Rice (5-3)

Utah State (MWC 6-3)

UTEP (5-3)

Nevada (MWC 6-3)

UAB (5-4)

Utah State (MWC 6-3)

Popeyes Bahamas Bowl

UTEP (5-3)

Bowling Green (MAC 5-3)

MTSU (5-4)

W. Michigan (MAC 6-3)

LA Tech (6-3)

W. Michigan (MAC 6-3)

Marshall (8-0)

N. Illinois (MAC 6-2)

MTSU (5-4)

Toldeo (MAC 5-3)

LA Tech (6-3)

N. Illinois (MAC 6-2)

Sheraton Hawaii Bowl

MTSU (5-4)

Nevada (MWC 6-3)

UAB (5-4)

Nevada (MWC 6-3)

MTSU (5-4)

Air Force (MWC 6-2)

MTSU (5-4)

Air Force (MWC 6-2)

Zaxby's Heart of Dallas Bowl

Rice (5-3)

Texas State (Sun Belt 5-3)

Rice (5-3)

Rutgers (B10 5-4)

Marshall (8-0)

Maryland (B10 6-3)

Rice (5-3)

Rutgers (B10 5-4)

Rice (5-3)

Maryland (B10 6-3)

UTEP (5-3)

Texas State (Sun Belt 5-3)

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I still want that Heart of Texas Bowl! vs. Maryland would be an epic rematch of the tie in our first year of FBS.

I want the Rose Bowl vs. Oregon

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I wont be at any bowl, I will be on vacation in St. Lucia. Sucks to be me, I know.

From LaTechReport.com, here is a list of the different bowl possibilities for Louisiana Tech in order of attractiveness.

http://latechreport.com/2014/11/03/l...possibilities/

I've been updating this in the Hall of Fame board, but I wanted to let folks know what they are missing by not paying $18.94/yr :D

As of 11/03/2014 Red Indicates not updated from last projection yet	New Mexico	Boca Raton	Bahamas	Hawaii	Heart of Dallas	Independence
Athlon Sports	UTEP vs. Utah State	UAB vs. W Michigan	Marshall vs. NIU	MTSU vs. San Diego St	Rutgers vs. Rice	Pitt vs. LA Tech
Bleacher Report	Rice vs. Wyoming	Marshall vs. NIU	UAB vs. Toledo	MTSU vs. Air Force	Rutgers vs. LA Tech	Pitt vs. Florida
CampusInsiders.com (10/6)	UAB vs. Air Force	LA Tech vs. Bowling Green	MTSU vs. NIU	Cal vs. Colorado St	Maryland vs. N Texas	Duke vs. LSU	Fiesta: Marshall vs. Mississippi St
CBS Sports/Jerry Palm	UTEP vs. Utah State	LA Tech vs. C Michigan	MTSU vs. W. Michigan	Nevada vs. UAB	Rutgers vs. Rice	California vs. N Carolina	Peach: Marshall vs. Ole Miss
CFN.Scout.com	Houston vs. San Diego St	UTEP vs. NIU	MTSU vs. Toledo	Washington vs. Nevada	Maryland vs. Rice	Virginia vs. LA Tech	Fiesta: Marshall vs. Kansas St
College Sports Madness	LA Tech vs. Colorado St	UAB vs. Akron	UTEP vs. Bowling Green	Nevada vs. MTSU	Texas State vs. Rice	North Carolina vs. Temple	Peach: Marshall vs. UCLA
ESPN (Brett McMurphy)	Rice vs. Utah State	UAB vs. Toledo	LA Tech vs. W Michigan	Air Force vs. MTSU	Maryland vs. Marshall	Virginia Tech vs. UTEP
ESPN (Mark Schlabach)	UTEP vs. Nevada	MTSU vs. Bowling Green	Marshall vs. NIU	Oregon St vs. Colorado St	Rutgers vs. Rice	Pittsburgh vs. LA Tech
NFL.com/College Football 24/7	UTEP vs. Utah State	MTSU vs. Toledo	UAB vs. NIU	WKU vs. Boise St	Rutgers vs. Rice	North Carolina vs. LA Tech	Peach: Alabama vs. Marshall
Phil Steele	N Texas vs. Colorado St	FAU vs. Ball State	LA Tech vs. NIU	MTSU vs. Fresno State	Northwestern vs. Texas St	North Carolina vs. Oregon State	Fiesta: Notre Dame vs. Marshall
SB Nation	UTEP vs. Utah State	UAB vs. Ohio	Marshall vs. Toledo	WKU vs. Stanford	Northwestern vs. Rice	Oregon St vs. LA Tech	Bitcoin: UCF vs. MTSU
Sporting News	Utah St vs MTSU	C Michigan vs. UAB	Rice vs. W Michigan	San Diego St vs. LA Tech	Michigan vs. California	Virginia Tech vs. Houston	Peach: Auburn vs. Marshall
Sports Illustrated	MTSU vs. Nevada	Rice vs. Toledo	LA Tech vs. Akron	Air Force vs. UAB	Minnesota vs. UTEP	NC St vs. Washington	Birmingham: Texas St vs. Marshall
USA Today	LA Tech vs. Air Force	Rice vs. Bowling Green	MTSU vs. Toledo	Nevada vs. Marshall	Northwestern vs. UTEP	Virginia vs. UAB
Orlando Sentinel	MTSU vs. Nevada	UAB vs. W Michigan	UTEP vs. Bowling Green	LA Tech vs. Colorado State	Rice vs. Minnesota	Penn State vs. Memphis	Fiesta: Marshall vs. Kansas St

Awesome would be lsu vs. La. Tech in the I-Bowl or Heart of Texas Bowl. :D

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Awesome would be lsu vs. La. Tech in the I-Bowl or Heart of Texas Bowl. :D

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Little chance of that. Will never say never.

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Awesome would be lsu vs. La. Tech in the I-Bowl or Heart of Texas Bowl. :D

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While I would love to get a shot at LSU or Texas A&M in a bowl, I think a more likely scenario would be for us to get revenge on Utah State in a Bowl game for ruining our Orange Bowl/any bowl in 2012... we just lost heart for the San Jose Game :icon_razz:

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I still want that Heart of Texas Bowl! vs. Maryland would be an epic rematch of the tie in our first year of FBS.

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1975 was Tech's first Division I/FBS year. And the 1990 Independence Bowl was in Tech's second year after it returned to FBS in 1989 after the 7-year relegation.

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... we just lost heart for the San Jose Game :icon_razz:

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We lost the coaching staff for the San Jose State game.

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We lost the coaching staff for the San Jose State game.

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Some think we lost them for the Utah State game.

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I still want that Heart of Texas Bowl! vs. Maryland would be an epic rematch of the tie in our first year of FBS.

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I would love that- my husband is a huge Maryland fan.

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I would love that- my husband is a huge Maryland fan.

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Why? Turtle lover?

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Why? Turtle lover?

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He grew up a block from the school- he has plenty of TECH clothes now and learned quickly to hate lsu, so he is OK.:)

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He grew up a block from the school- he has plenty of TECH clothes now and learned quickly to hate lsu, so he is OK.:)

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Cool. Turtle soup would taste pretty good on a cold HOD bowl day.

Did we all forget what happened in 2012? I hope we never ever play in the garbage independence bowl again.

Tis strange to me that a lot of folk are thinking the Independence Bowl would be a good one for Tech after the 2012 fiasco. I went to the I-Bowl in 2008 and enjoyed the Tech sponsored tailgate party in Hirsch Memorial Coliseum, and the outcome of the game was nice. But the area around the stadium was not so nice.I went to see a Shreveport-Bossier Mavericks basketball game at Hirsch earlier this year and the area around the stadium is still pretty depressing.

Don't get me wrong - HOT Bowl is #1 on my list. I would like to have a P5 opponent, though.

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I wont be at any bowl, I will be on vacation in St. Lucia. Sucks to be me, I know.

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Have you been before? For our 25th anniversary, Mrs CK3 and I cruised the southern Caribbean and LOVED it. Take the catamaran to the Pitons. It's about as spectacular as it gets.

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Some think we lost them for the Utah State game.

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Not sure that game would have gotten to OT if the staff had already checked out.

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Not sure that game would have gotten to OT if the staff had already checked out.

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They didn't play in the 1st half. Unprepared HC and his OC sidekick were distracted.

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Don't get me wrong - HOT Bowl is #1 on my list. I would like to have a P5 opponent, though.

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When did you start drinking the I-bowl Kool-aide- you have always seen the light on this issue?:) No way we need to go there and bail their behinds out. We need to go to the best bowl available to us, and that is not it. I heard one of the players say on Sunday they believe they are going to the Bahamas. I hope that is true for them- somehow I think that is an easier sell in recruiting than they could go to Shreveport.

I agree with most on this board that the Independence bowl is not the ideal location for our bowl game... but i disagree that we should accept ANY other bowl game except them. Heart of Dallas would be great. Any bowl game in the southeast would be great. But I do not think it would help the program much to play in Boise, Idaho or Hawaii. A few rich fans will be able to go and the rest will sit home and miss the experience. I think it is best for Louisiana Tech Football to play in either Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia or Florida. If a bowl game in those states offers, we should always accept it over some long distance bowl. Even if it is the Indy bowl. Just my two cents.

Until we hit 7 wins - no point in discussing this

All times Eastern.
2014-15 College Football Bowl Schedule

R+L Carriers New Orleans Bowl Sun Belt vs. Mountain West	New Orleans Mercedes-Benz Superdome	Dec. 20 11 a.m.	ESPN
Gildan New Mexico Bowl Mountain West vs. Conference USA	Albuquerque, N.M. University Stadium	Dec. 20 2:20 p.m.	ESPN
Royal Purple Las Vegas Bowl Mountain West vs. Pac-12	Las Vegas Sam Boyd Stadium	Dec. 20 3:30 p.m.	ABC
Famous Idaho Potato Bowl MAC vs. Mountain West	Boise, Idaho Albertsons Stadium	Dec. 20 5:45 p.m.	ESPN
Raycom Media Camellia Bowl MAC vs. Sun Belt	Montgomery, Ala. Cramton Bowl	Dec. 20 9:15 p.m.	ESPN
Miami Beach Bowl AAC vs. BYU	Miami Marlins Park	Dec. 22 2 p.m.	TBD
Boca Raton Bowl Conference USA vs. MAC	Boca Raton, Fla. FAU Stadium	Dec. 23 6 p.m.	ESPN
San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl Mountain West vs. Navy	San Diego Qualcomm Stadium	Dec. 23 9:30 p.m.	ESPN
Popeyes Bahamas Bowl Conference USA vs. MAC	Nassau, Bahamas Thomas A. Robinson National Stadium	Dec. 24 Noon	ESPN
Hawai'i Bowl Conference USA vs. Mountain West	Honolulu Aloha Stadium	Dec. 24 8 p.m.	ESPN
Zaxby's Heart of Dallas Bowl Big Ten vs. Conference USA	Dallas Cotton Bowl	Dec. 26 1 p.m.	ESPN
Quick Lane Bowl ACC vs. Big Ten	Detroit Ford Field	Dec. 26 4:30 p.m.	ESPN
BITCOIN St. Petersburg Bowl AAC vs. ACC	St. Petersburg, Fla. Tropicana Field	Dec. 26 8 p.m.	ESPN
Military Bowl presented By Northrop Grumman AAC vs. ACC	Annapolis, Md. Navy-Marine Corps Memorial Stadium	Dec. 27 1 p.m.	ESPN
Hyundai Sun Bowl ACC vs. Pac-12	El Paso, Texas Sun Bowl	Dec. 27 2 p.m.	CBS
Duck Commander Independence Bowl ACC vs. SEC	Shreveport, La. Independence Stadium	Dec. 27 3:30 p.m.	ABC
New Era Pinstripe Bowl ACC vs. Big Ten	Bronx, N.Y. Yankee Stadium	Dec. 27 4:30 p.m.	ESPN
National University Holiday Bowl Big Ten vs. Pac-12	San Diego Qualcomm Stadium	Dec. 27 8 p.m.	ESPN
AutoZone Liberty Bowl Big 12 vs. SEC	Memphis, Tenn. Liberty Bowl Memorial Stadium	Dec. 29 2 p.m.	ESPN
Russell Athletic Bowl ACC vs. Big 12	Orlando, Fla. Florida Citrus Bow	Dec. 29 TBD	TBD
AdvoCare V100 Texas Bowl Big 12 vs. SEC	Houston NRG Stadium	Dec. 29 9 p.m.	ESPN
Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl SEC vs. ACC or Big Ten	Nashville, Tenn. LP Field	Dec. 30 3 p.m.	ESPN
Belk Bowl ACC vs. SEC	Charlotte, N.C. Bank of America Stadium	Dec. 30 6:30 p.m.	ESPN
San Francisco Bowl Big Ten vs. Pac-12	Santa Clara, Calif. Levi's Stadium	Dec. 30 10 p.m.	ESPN
Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl TBD vs. TBD	Atlanta Georgia Dome	Dec. 31 12:30 p.m.	ESPN
Fiesta Bowl TBD vs. TBD	Glendale, Ariz. University of Phoenix Stadium	Dec. 31 4 p.m.	ESPN
Capital One Orange Bowl ACC vs. SEC/Big Ten/Notre Dame	Miami Gardens, Fla. Sun Life Stadium	Dec. 31 8 p.m.	ESPN
Citrus Bowl Big Ten vs. SEC	Orlando, Fla. Florida Citrus Bowl	Jan. 1 1 p.m.	ABC
Outback Bowl Big Ten vs. SEC	Tampa, Fla. Raymond James Stadium	Jan. 1 Noon	ESPN2
Cotton Bowl TBD vs. TBD	Arlington, Texas AT&T Stadium	Jan. 1 12:30 p.m.	ESPN
Rose Bowl Game Presented By Northwestern Mutual College Football Playoff Semifinal TBD vs. TBD	Pasadena, Calif. Rose Bowl	Jan. 1 5 p.m.	ESPN
Allstate Sugar Bowl College Football Playoff Semifinal TBD vs. TBD	New Orleans Mercedes-Benz Superdome	Jan. 1 8:30 p.m.	ESPN
Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl AAC vs. Army	Fort Worth, Texas Amon G. Carter Stadium	Jan. 2 Noon	ESPN
TaxSlayer Bowl SEC vs. ACC or Big Ten	Jacksonville, Fla. EverBank Field	Jan. 2 3:20 p.m.	ESPN
Valero Alamo Bowl Big 12 vs. Pac-12	San Antonio Alamodome	Jan. 2 6:45 p.m.	ESPN
Cactus Bowl Big 12 vs. Pac-12	Tempe, Ariz. Sun Devil Stadium	Jan. 2 10:15 p.m.	ESPN
Birmingham Bowl AAC vs. SEC	Birmingham, Ala. Legion Field	Jan. 3 1 p.m.	ESPN or ESPN2
GoDaddy Bowl MAC vs. Sun Belt	Mobile, Ala. Ladd-Peebles Stadium	Jan. 4 9 p.m.	ESPN
College Football Playoff National Championship Game TBD vs. TBD	Arlington, Texas AT&T Stadium	Jan. 12 TBD	ESPN

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Did we all forget what happened in 2012? I hope we never ever play in the garbage independence bowl again.

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for better or worse CUSA was in town looking at Century tel for possible CUSA basketball tourney and visited with I Bowl folks, did a tour of football stadium. If the hotel tax does not pass the I-bowl and Cusa may work something out. From a recruiting standpoint the I-Bowl is good fit-- bussiness is bussiness -- it also the bowl that would attack the most Tech students and alumn. Before I get slammed, I am pulling a Dr Spock here --just speaking logically. I am flying to OD game, if we play Marshal, I will fly to that game and whatever bowl we play I will fly to it. Reality is I am old fart and can do that but most folks have a life and other obligations - Shreveport and Dallas best for fan base--- take it easy on me when you start slamming this post

As a fan, what I see as easiest for most fans
1. I-Bowl - Saturday - 2 days after Christmas. Drive over on Friday or DFW/Houston/LR/Memphis folks. Go home after the game.
2. HoD - Friday - day after christmas. being a noon game - you'll have to travel to Dallas on Christmas. But you can go home after the game.
2a. Armed Forces Bowl - as LaTechReport.com reported - Army may not be eligible - which opens spot in Fort Worth - This is Jan 2, which would be great!
3. New Mexico - LONG DRIVE 13 hours - Flights - cheapest i've found $600/person out of Shreveport (THIS IS WHY YOU SHOULD HAVE VOTED FOR THE TAX).
4. Boca Raton - see #3
5/6 Hawaii/Bahamas - not cheap

Exposure for Team/Recruiting
1. HoD - ESPN against B1G - only game on - and it's Dallas area.
2. IBowl - ABC against ACC - however overlap of games that may have "better" matchup
2a. Armed Forces - ESPN vs. AAC - only game on
3. NM - ESPN against MWC - overlap with ABC game MWC/Pac-12
4. Hawaii - ESPN vs. MWC - only game on
5/6 Boca Raton/Bahamas - ESPN vs. MAC - only game on

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for better or worse CUSA was in town looking at Century tel for possible CUSA basketball tourney and visited with I Bowl folks, did a tour of football stadium. If the hotel tax does not pass the I-bowl and Cusa may work something out. From a recruiting standpoint the I-Bowl is good fit-- bussiness is bussiness -- it also the bowl that would attack the most Tech students and alumn. Before I get slammed, I am pulling a Dr Spock here --just speaking logically. I am flying to OD game, if we play Marshal, I will fly to that game and whatever bowl we play I will fly to it. Reality is I am old fart and can do that but most folks have a life and other obligations - Shreveport and Dallas best for fan base--- take it easy on me when you start slamming this post

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No slamming from me. It was obvious from one of TMac's first pressers that he (and Tech) planned on mending fences with the I Bowl folks. It's also obvious to me that C-USA needs us to have a good working relationship with the I Bowl.

Got to put BVDV and Missy's BS behind us and work for Tech's best interest.

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I wont be at any bowl, I will be on vacation in St. Lucia. Sucks to be me, I know.

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where you staying?? spent an awesome week there a few years ago -- rain forrest is incredible

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No slamming from me. It was obvious from one of TMac's first pressers that he (and Tech) planned on mending fences with the I Bowl folks. It's also obvious to me that C-USA needs us to have a good working relationship with the I Bowl.

Got to put BVDV and Missy's BS behind us and work for Tech's best interest.

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BVDV is gone. Is Missy still there? Then, screw the I-Bowl.

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Until we hit 7 wins - no point in discussing this

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Quote from Skip Holtz:

On looking at conference championship possibilities:
"We talked last night in our big picture meeting, which is what we have on Sunday night, about the conference race and what is going on. Everyone is going to start getting into who has to beat who. They go on the road to play them and what happens if that happens. Then everyone starts projecting. I told them that we cannot fall into that trap. Sitting down and trying to project the future is a waste of our time right now on the inside. I understand the media and the fans, which is part of the excitement of winning. For us right now, we need to find a way to go 1-0 this week. After that we can go through the open date and take a look at how that is shaking out and we will have a lot clearer picture of what everything will look like in two weeks."

I'm a fan so I can get caught up in the excitement. :) The coaches and players, not so much.

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No slamming from me. It was obvious from one of TMac's first pressers that he (and Tech) planned on mending fences with the I Bowl folks. It's also obvious to me that C-USA needs us to have a good working relationship with the I Bowl.

Got to put BVDV and Missy's BS behind us and work for Tech's best interest.

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thanks , hopefully leadership of bowl will change one day , its not the bowl that irritated all of us, its the leadership-- I was much more p...ed about our 10-2 season and getting no invite -- 2012 had a coach who cared less, a goofy AD , Liberty Bowl folks and I Bowl committee. Karma got them, Northeast laid a giant bowl movement on their bowl -- I can see Phil Robinson in mix, good for PR Tech and Bowl. Old Tech qb now putting up millions for bowl ( which is not the case but when has the truth stopped marketing?)

Reality -- we would have WAY more fans at a game in Shreveport, Dallas or Forth Worth than the other choices being mentioned.

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Quote from Skip Holtz:

On looking at conference championship possibilities:
"We talked last night in our big picture meeting, which is what we have on Sunday night, about the conference race and what is going on. Everyone is going to start getting into who has to beat who. They go on the road to play them and what happens if that happens. Then everyone starts projecting. I told them that we cannot fall into that trap. Sitting down and trying to project the future is a waste of our time right now on the inside. I understand the media and the fans, which is part of the excitement of winning. For us right now, we need to find a way to go 1-0 this week. After that we can go through the open date and take a look at how that is shaking out and we will have a lot clearer picture of what everything will look like in two weeks."

I'm a fan so I can get caught up in the excitement. :) The coaches and players, not so much.

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True-- we all know what happens when you do not focus on next game-- when you take anyone for granted-- think for a lot of us talking about bowls is a distraction til next game -- players have plenty of other stuff to focus on

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BVDV is gone. Is Missy still there? Then, screw the I-Bowl.

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Obamas in the white house , I havent given up on country

At 6-6 we are NOT guaranteed to play in a bowl - at 7-5 we are...

If we get to 7 wins - I plan on going to anywhere except the Bahamas or Hawaii -

1st Choice would be HoD, 2nd would be Indy, New Mexico is a very distant 3rd....

Sadly none of our options are incredibly appealing. Location and timing make most of them tough for fans to attend, and the remaining 2 (Indy & HOD) are a case of BTDT.

Independence Bowl
Pro- Best payout(IIRC), likely highest attendance, minimal travel cost, on ABC, good for recruiting, Not the day after Christmas, Chance to remind Indy Bowl Committee how stupid they were
Con- It's the Independence Bowl, constant reminder or 2012, It's the Independence Bowl

Heart of Dallas
Pro- Short travel for most people, low travel cost, good for recruiting, on ESPN, It's not the Independence Bowl
Con-Early afternoon game the day after Christmas leaves little time for tailgating or Pre-game events, played at the Cotton Bowl last year

I'll be happy just to go to a bowl game, and even happier if it's one that I can actually attend, just sucks that our best options are some of the least appealing.

I saw one prediction of us against Pitt in the I-Bowl. Beating the crap out of an ACC team on ABC the Saturday afternoon after Christmas would be pretty damn good exposure.

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I saw one prediction of us against Pitt in the I-Bowl. Beating the crap out of an ACC team on ABC the Saturday afternoon after Christmas would be pretty damn good exposure.

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And if we EVER want to host the CUSA basketball tourney in Bossier/S'port we need the help of the I-Bowl folks and the Cities of Shreveport/Bossier and their tourism departments -

There is a much bigger issue here at play than most folks realize

I heard that all CUSA bowl games must be filled before we can accept the I Bowl. I think we have 6 bowls, so 7 teams would have to become bowl-eligible. Is this true?

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I heard that all CUSA bowl games must be filled before we can accept the I Bowl. I think we have 6 bowls, so 7 teams would have to become bowl-eligible. Is this true?

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Sort of true. C-USA only has 5 bowls this year. New Mexico, Boca, Bahamas, Hawai'i, and Heart of Dallas. Several media outlets also reported we have a backup relationship with the Armed Forces Bowl.

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At 6-6 we are NOT guaranteed to play in a bowl - at 7-5 we are...

If we get to 7 wins - I plan on going to anywhere except the Bahamas or Hawaii -

1st Choice would be HoD, 2nd would be Indy, New Mexico is a very distant 3rd....

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Exactly my breakdown. I would rather go to hawaii or the Bahamas if they weren't on Christmas eve/day. Wish they would move those guys up to the weekend before Christmas or even a couple weekends before.

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I heard that all CUSA bowl games must be filled before we can accept the I Bowl. I think we have 6 bowls, so 7 teams would have to become bowl-eligible. Is this true?

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I'm sure the conference can negotiate with Bowls/Conferences if Tech/C-USA/I-Bowl want to be together

What's the deal with the rumored AAC connection to the Indy bowl? Is it true that they can select EITHER a CUSA team or AAC team?

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What's the deal with the rumored AAC connection to the Indy bowl? Is it true that they can select EITHER a CUSA team or AAC team?

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Secondary tie-ins

Bowl has the option the first year - after that it goes to the other conference on a rotating basis

I think that is how it works

We need to play Colorado State no matter what, please please please. I need some semblance of relevant smack talk here in the mile high...just doesn't work the same 1,000 miles away.

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Tis strange to me that a lot of folk are thinking the Independence Bowl would be a good one for Tech after the 2012 fiasco. I went to the I-Bowl in 2008 and enjoyed the Tech sponsored tailgate party in Hirsch Memorial Coliseum, and the outcome of the game was nice. But the area around the stadium was not so nice.I went to see a Shreveport-Bossier Mavericks basketball game at Hirsch earlier this year and the area around the stadium is still pretty depressing.

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The area around the Cotton Bowl stadium is a dump too. Are you going to boycott the HOD bowl? I would argue that the area where Martin Luther King Rd crosses Malcom X street --about 500 yards directly in front of Cotton Bowl Stadium-- will make Shreveport's "Fair Park" area look like a 5-star Carribean resort.

Many "Bowl game" stadiums --save for those on college campuses (e.g., the Military Bowl in Ft Worth)-- are in dumpy areas. Ever been to the Orange bowl? The Rose Bowl? Heck, New Orleans? Even the University of Southern California is located in a very rough part of town called "south LA". But that's no reason to boycott these bowl games, or USC. Just toughen up a bit and support 'em anyway.

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for better or worse CUSA was in town looking at Century tel for possible CUSA basketball tourney and visited with I Bowl folks, did a tour of football stadium. If the hotel tax does not pass the I-bowl and Cusa may work something out. From a recruiting standpoint the I-Bowl is good fit-- bussiness is bussiness -- it also the bowl that would attack the most Tech students and alumn. Before I get slammed, I am pulling a Dr Spock here --just speaking logically. I am flying to OD game, if we play Marshal, I will fly to that game and whatever bowl we play I will fly to it. Reality is I am old fart and can do that but most folks have a life and other obligations - Shreveport and Dallas best for fan base--- take it easy on me when you start slamming this post

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I just posted something very similar to your post on another thread. Suffice it to say, LA Tech fans need to be smarter. The I-Bowl offers LA Tech a P5 opponent in a nationally televised game that can literally be attended by 50K LA Tech fans. What other bowl --or sporting venue, or city-- offers that kind of exposure within 70 miles of our home campus? Since some folks can't see the big picture, I'll go ahead and answer that question for you: NONE!!!!

The I-Bowl game is smack in the heart of LA Tech's recruiting country. Like it or not, LA Tech needs the I-Bowl to be successful. It behooves us to strengthen our relationship with the I-Bowl committee. As Dogsince65 says, "business is business". And this is good business.

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BVDV is gone. Is Missy still there? Then, screw the I-Bowl.

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Think Big Picture. Both LA Tech and the I-Bowl have already tried that "cut off your nose to spite your face" thing. It didn't work so well for either party in 2012.

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The area around the Cotton Bowl stadium is a dump too. Are you going to boycott the HOD bowl? I would argue that the area where Martin Luther King Rd crosses Malcom X street --about 500 yards directly in front of Cotton Bowl Stadium-- will make Shreveport's "Fair Park" area look like a 5-star Carribean resort.

Many "Bowl game" stadiums --save for those on college campuses (e.g., the Military Bowl in Ft Worth)-- are in dumpy areas. Ever been to the Orange bowl? The Rose Bowl? Heck, New Orleans? Even the University of Southern California is located in a very rough part of town called "south LA". But that's no reason to boycott these bowl games, or USC. Just toughen up a bit and support 'em anyway.

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Unless the city of Memphis cleaned things up, you can add the Liberty Bowl to that list as well!

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Unless the city of Memphis cleaned things up, you can add the Liberty Bowl to that list as well!

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....and that's my point. Very few (if any) of these bowl game sites are in luxurious, high rent areas. (I'm guessing the "Boca Raton Bowl" is though, HAHA!)

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Originally Posted by HogDawg

The area around the Cotton Bowl stadium is a dump too. Are you going to boycott the HOD bowl? I would argue that the area where Martin Luther King Rd crosses Malcom X street --about 500 yards directly in front of Cotton Bowl Stadium-- will make Shreveport's "Fair Park" area look like a 5-star Carribean resort.

Many "Bowl game" stadiums --save for those on college campuses (e.g., the Military Bowl in Ft Worth)-- are in dumpy areas. Ever been to the Orange bowl? The Rose Bowl? Heck, New Orleans? Even the University of Southern California is located in a very rough part of town called "south LA". But that's no reason to boycott these bowl games, or USC. Just toughen up a bit and support 'em anyway.

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The Rose Bowl in Pasadena dumpy? You're thinking of the coliseum across from USC

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I just posted something very similar to your post on another thread. Suffice it to say, LA Tech fans need to be smarter. The I-Bowl offers LA Tech a P5 opponent in a nationally televised game that can literally be attended by 50K LA Tech fans. What other bowl --or sporting venue, or city-- offers that kind of exposure within 70 miles of our home campus? Since some folks can't see the big picture, I'll go ahead and answer that question for you: NONE!!!!

The I-Bowl game is smack in the heart of LA Tech's recruiting country. Like it or not, LA Tech needs the I-Bowl to be successful. It behooves us to strengthen our relationship with the I-Bowl committee. As Dogsince65 says, "business is business". And this is good business.

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Agree 100%, Plus it is going to be the Saturday after Christmas at 3:30 on ABC, what better time slot could we ask for.

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No slamming from me. It was obvious from one of TMac's first pressers that he (and Tech) planned on mending fences with the I Bowl folks. It's also obvious to me that C-USA needs us to have a good working relationship with the I Bowl.

Got to put BVDV and Missy's BS behind us and work for Tech's best interest.

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Quit making sense, dang it.

So I should hold my nose and vote for Missy? There are some EXCELLENT people on the I Bowl staff I'd LOVE TO SEE US WORK WITH FOR SURE. However. still just seems to me it's like trusting Jerry Sandusky with your kids since he's the most available babysitter. I got about an hour to decide.

We need to play in the Ibowl for one reason only. I will be in St. Lucia on the beach and I am not sure they get ESPN on the island. Needs to be on ABC just to be sure. All kidding aside.

If Tech finishes with 8, 9 or god forbid 10 wins, the Ibowl will be begging to have Tech attend. The crowd would be huge. If we win 10, Tech gets to chose its bowl. Does Tech chose HOD or Ibowl?

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We need to play in the Ibowl for one reason only. I will be in St. Lucia on the beach and I am not sure they get ESPN on the island. Needs to be on ABC just to be sure. All kidding aside.

If Tech finishes with 8, 9 or god forbid 10 wins, the Ibowl will be begging to have Tech attend. The crowd would be huge. If we win 10, Tech gets to chose its bowl. Does Tech chose HOD or Ibowl?

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I'd like to think we'd pick the I-Bowl. I get the impression our administration really is trying to mend the relationship.

While it seems that most of us are holding some much warranted grudges against the I-Bowl and others are giving logical reasons why the I-Bowl should be embraced we may be overlooking what the bowls are suppose to be. They should be an award and something to look forward to and get excited about for the players. How exciting would it be for the players to know this is what you're playing for, a trip to Shreveport? How much of a recruiting tool would it be selling the I-Bowl to Tx.-La.-Miss kids?

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While it seems that most of us are holding some much warranted grudges against the I-Bowl and others are giving logical reasons why the I-Bowl should be embraced we may be overlooking what the bowls are suppose to be. They should be an award and something to look forward to and get excited about for the players. How exciting would it be for the players to know this is what you're playing for, a trip to Shreveport? How much of a recruiting tool would it be selling the I-Bowl to Tx.-La.-Miss kids?

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Playing at 2 PM on ABC against a P-5 team in a packed stadium might be exciting for the players... just a thought

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While it seems that most of us are holding some much warranted grudges against the I-Bowl and others are giving logical reasons why the I-Bowl should be embraced we may be overlooking what the bowls are suppose to be. They should be an award and something to look forward to and get excited about for the players. How exciting would it be for the players to know this is what you're playing for, a trip to Shreveport? How much of a recruiting tool would it be selling the I-Bowl to Tx.-La.-Miss kids?

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I-Bowl vs. Pitt in front of a large crowd (YOUR Crowd) or Bahamas in front of nobody v. C Michigan

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I'd like to think we'd pick the I-Bowl. I get the impression our administration really is trying to mend the relationship.

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That's good to hear. Because frankly, both sides ended up looking like donkey's back in 2012.

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Playing at 2 PM on ABC against a P-5 team in a packed stadium might be exciting for the players... just a thought

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Bingo!

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Originally Posted by boxerdog

Playing at 2 PM on ABC against a P-5 team in a packed stadium might be exciting for the players... just a thought

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Originally Posted by HogDawg

The area around the Cotton Bowl stadium is a dump too. Are you going to boycott the HOD bowl? I would argue that the area where Martin Luther King Rd crosses Malcom X street --about 500 yards directly in front of Cotton Bowl Stadium-- will make Shreveport's "Fair Park" area look like a 5-star Carribean resort.

Many "Bowl game" stadiums --save for those on college campuses (e.g., the Military Bowl in Ft Worth)-- are in dumpy areas. Ever been to the Orange bowl? The Rose Bowl? Heck, New Orleans? Even the University of Southern California is located in a very rough part of town called "south LA". But that's no reason to boycott these bowl games, or USC. Just toughen up a bit and support 'em anyway.

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I have not been to the other stadiums of which you speak. I guess the state of the parking lots and lighting that are part of the fair grounds in Shreveport is what I found to be the most depressing.

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I have not been to the other stadiums of which you speak. I guess the state of the parking lots and lighting that are part of the fair grounds in Shreveport is what I found to be the most depressing.

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I love using the shuttle form Mall St. Vincent when going the game. It was very convenient for aTm game.