Guess who the last team to get a 10th assistant will be

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My thoughts exactly. Kent is an azzhole, and ULL really sucks. Kent keeps talking about "the future" because ULL has no worthy past, and he doesn't have to prove anything when talking about the future. :laugh:

ULL is a coaches grave yard. Kent knows it, and so do we. Coach Roid was further proof of it. Fact is, ULL kills more coaching careers than Father Time.

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Lafayette is where coaching careers go to die.

Has a USL head coach ever gone on to anything else?

Augie Tammariello used his .467 winning percentage as a coach to land a gig as a State Farm Agent.

Nelson Stokley took his Clemson OC credentials and a .443 winning percentage as the Couyon's coach to land a retirement gig.

Ricky Bustle won 38 percent of his games as a USL head coach after a solid career as an assistant in other places that won consistently. He's still coaching, but as the OC at a religious school in Georgia. It's easy see why a guy might find Jesus after coaching at USL.

Jerry Baldwin won just 18 percent of his games, but appears to be the ONLY USL coach to ever go on to be a head coach afterwards, even though he's coaching at a HS. He too found Jesus and is involved in the ministry. I'm sensing a trend. I'd probably find Jesus, too, if I were a USL coach.

Mark Hudspeth rode his .449 Ragin Cajun winning percentage all the way from being Associate Head coach at Mississippi State to irrelevance, obscurity and disgrace. He had a few stops at academic fraud, improper payments and NCAA rules violations along the way. Hell, apparently USL is only good when they cheat. Unfortuantely, the couyons can't even do that correctly.

I fear for the coaching careers of Tim Leger and Rob Sale. They're both good guys. I'm not sure they thought this all thte way through. USL may be more coaching Purgatory than coaching Hell, but there appears to be only one road to escape from that place and it involves salvation and coming to Jesus.

If you're going to coach at USL, make sure your insurance license is up to date, and that you're on a first name basis with your pastor. The divine intervention certainly can't hurt.

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Lafayette is where coaching careers go to die.

Has a USL head coach ever gone on to anything else?

Augie Tammariello used his .467 winning percentage as a coach to land a gig as a State Farm Agent.

Nelson Stokley took his Clemson OC credentials and a .443 winning percentage as the Couyon's coach to land a retirement gig.

Ricky Bustle won 38 percent of his games as a USL head coach after a solid career as an assistant in other places that won consistently. He's still coaching, but as the OC at a religious school in Georgia. It's easy see why a guy might find Jesus after coaching at USL.

Jerry Baldwin won just 18 percent of his games, but appears to be the ONLY USL coach to ever go on to be a head coach afterwards, even though he's coaching at a HS. He too found Jesus and is involved in the ministry. I'm sensing a trend. I'd probably find Jesus, too, if I were a USL coach.

Mark Hudspeth rode his .449 Ragin Cajun winning percentage all the way from being Associate Head coach at Mississippi State to irrelevance, obscurity and disgrace. He had a few stops at academic fraud, improper payments and NCAA rules violations along the way. Hell, apparently USL is only good when they cheat. Unfortuantely, the couyons can't even do that correctly.

I fear for the coaching careers of Tim Leger and Rob Sale. They're both good guys. I'm not sure they thought this all thte way through. USL may be more coaching Purgatory than coaching Hell, but there appears to be only one road to escape from that place and it involves salvation and coming to Jesus.

If you're going to coach at USL, make sure your insurance license is up to date, and that you're on a first name basis with your pastor. The divine intervention certainly can't hurt.

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This kind of post is what makes this site interesting. I could care less about some Cajun's peacock-strutting and hyperbole and statements about how grand and glorious the future will be. What have you done in the past to amount to anything that did not involve cheating or the city of New Orleans? Let's see the facts. If the only criteria is money raised, I'm sure Rice and Vanderbilt should be competing for National Championships. As was said, it's not how much money you raise, but what has been the results? How many P5 games have ever been won by a USL football team, maybe two?

And one of those P5 games was in Lafayette.

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And one of those P5 games was in Lafayette.

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Do the Leopard Peppers have a statue to commemorate that A$M win?

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And one of those P5 games was in Lafayette.

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Sure it wasn't Louisville? I get confused.:o

Can somebody please find the old picture of the recruiting trailer with Richard Simmons and the airboat and the shopping cart?

I can giggle at that for hours. Ok, minutes. But still ...

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Can somebody please find the old picture of the recruiting trailer with Richard Simmons and the airboat and the shopping cart?

I can giggle at that for hours. Ok, minutes. But still ...

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Laugh all you want! Mais ouis, dis de year we get dat SEC invite! De Vermillion Giant done woke up from his 107 year slumber, cher!

Ole Miss thinks dey got a tradition wit dat grove. Dey ain't seen nuttin, cher! We got us an Eauxk!

You talkin bout dat UL-Laugh 'Recruiting Zone' wit outdoor bar & grill, cher!

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/...ewideparty.jpg

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You talkin bout dat UL-Laugh 'Recruiting Zone' wit outdoor bar & grill, cher!

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/...ewideparty.jpg

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Dey got dem Tiki torches and dem plastic Flamingos, cher. Dat's living rite!

Now Now, all of you. I was trying to have a constructive conversation with Kent. And look what this turned into.

That being said, FormerPokeCenter, what do think it will be 10 years from now: "Billy Napier RE/Max" or "Billy Napier Century 21"?

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Now Now, all of you. I was trying to have a constructive conversation with Kent. And look what this turned into.

That being said, FormerPokeCenter, what do think it will be 10 years from now: "Billy Napier RE/Max" or "Billy Napier Century 21"?

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Oh, Dat's gotta be ReMax, Cher....Dey gots dat Vermillion Color in dat Logo, them!

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Kent,

I appreciate your enthusiasm. Understand, I'm not trying to make any type of derogatory remark about the Cajun program. Far from it. I'm simply trying to point out the reason for the spending.

Your program was at rock bottom in December, 2017. In some ways it still is until it can get on the field and win some games. Given that fact and the history of the program from a coach's perspective, you had to overpay for the market.

Fortunately, over the decades Tech has never had to do that. We've been able to attract quality assistants without have to overreach. Within CUSA, Southern Miss is another good example. Over the decades, they've been able to attract assistants without having to overpay. A combination of environment and winning along with the ability to advance in career are all factors.

To give an example in the corporate world look at Wells Fargo. They had a scandal a few years ago and have gone on a hiring spree nationwide looking for auditors, compliance, anti-money laundering people, etc... in an attempt to get their house in order. To do so, they're paying as much as 50% more for those positions than their competitors. Otherwise, they would never attract quality people given what they're just gone through.

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Rock bottom? Not sure how you define rock botttom? 5 out of the last 7 years were winning seasons. 4 of them were 9-4 records. In that time frame 4-1 in bowl games. Even last year 5-7 I wouldn't consider any of that "Rock Bottom." Was it where it needs to be considering the size school and resources available? Obciously not as first year AD Brian Maggard decided to make a coaching move and invested more into the program. If you've got the resources you can spend them. RCAF raised 12.4 mil last year for that reason. I wouldn't say we had to over reach at all in paying assistants. We are basically just stepping up to the plate, and competing with the upper echelon of the G5, which is right where we need to be.

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To follow-up on my previous post, I'm sure you've had to overpay for the staff you've put together, but a few things are worth pointing out: About your coordinators - Ron Roberts has never coached in the FBS. Rob Sale carried a coordinator's title at McNeese years ago, but it appears he has never been a play caller. Matt Viator called his own plays. Tim Leger is a good guy, but he and your other former ULM assistant didn't produce a winning record at ULM. I thought Juluke was a good coach while at Tech, but his recruiting prowess was clearly overblown.

For having to overpay, your staff isn't quite what I thought it would be. Also, you've thrown out the number "$2 million". I've seen that number used on the RaginPagin, which is always correct. :icon_razz: Can you provide us with a link to that number.

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Ron Roberts is a very successful head coach with a defensive back ground. Roberts was the mentor for Dave Aranda. He credits Ron Roberts for much of his defensive knowledge, as he worked under him at Delta State. Rob Sale will continue to not call plays, that will be his good friend Billy Napier. Those 2 completely ran the offense last year at Arizona St, and will continue to do it the same way here. As for over paying coaches not sure how to put a price tag on that? They haven't coached a game yet. If early recruiting is any indicatoion they are worth every penny, as 247 sports has them ranked in the top 3 of all G5 schools, and 54 over all currently, for the 2109 class. If they continue that trend for a few years the success will be soon to follow, in a very big way.

https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Fo...eTeamRankings/

Source for coaches pay as requested.

https://www.theadvertiser.com/story/...arn/969064001/

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Can somebody please find the old picture of the recruiting trailer with Richard Simmons and the airboat and the shopping cart?

I can giggle at that for hours. Ok, minutes. But still ...

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Is this it?

You are right, I get a huge smile on my face every time I see too. I hope you enjoy watching it from start to finish as much as I did.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rDuRb86nGh8

https://ragincajuns.com/sports/2016/...44.aspx?id=853

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Originally Posted by FormerPokeCenter

Lafayette is where coaching careers go to die.

Has a USL head coach ever gone on to anything else?

Augie Tammariello used his .467 winning percentage as a coach to land a gig as a State Farm Agent.

Nelson Stokley took his Clemson OC credentials and a .443 winning percentage as the Couyon's coach to land a retirement gig.

Ricky Bustle won 38 percent of his games as a USL head coach after a solid career as an assistant in other places that won consistently. He's still coaching, but as the OC at a religious school in Georgia. It's easy see why a guy might find Jesus after coaching at USL.

Jerry Baldwin won just 18 percent of his games, but appears to be the ONLY USL coach to ever go on to be a head coach afterwards, even though he's coaching at a HS. He too found Jesus and is involved in the ministry. I'm sensing a trend. I'd probably find Jesus, too, if I were a USL coach.

Mark Hudspeth rode his .449 Ragin Cajun winning percentage all the way from being Associate Head coach at Mississippi State to irrelevance, obscurity and disgrace. He had a few stops at academic fraud, improper payments and NCAA rules violations along the way. Hell, apparently USL is only good when they cheat. Unfortuantely, the couyons can't even do that correctly.

I fear for the coaching careers of Tim Leger and Rob Sale. They're both good guys. I'm not sure they thought this all thte way through. USL may be more coaching Purgatory than coaching Hell, but there appears to be only one road to escape from that place and it involves salvation and coming to Jesus.

If you're going to coach at USL, make sure your insurance license is up to date, and that you're on a first name basis with your pastor. The divine intervention certainly can't hurt.

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PURE GOLD!!:laugh:

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Source for coaches pay as requested.

https://www.theadvertiser.com/story/...arn/969064001/

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It says: "Also in Napier's contract is $2 million for assistant coaches and staff."

So that number includes S&C staff plus perhaps whatever full-times managers and trainers are assigned to football, maybe even a dedicated SID person who is full-time. Am I reading that correctly? So it's not really $2 million for the coaches. Correct, Kent?

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Rock bottom? Not sure how you define rock botttom? 5 out of the last 7 years were winning seasons. 4 of them were 9-4 records. In that time frame 4-1 in bowl games. Even last year 5-7 I wouldn't consider any of that "Rock Bottom."

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Kent:

FormerPokeCenter posted this yesterday about the Hudspeth era in Lafayette: I'll quote him: Mark Hudspeth rode his .449 Ragin Cajun winning percentage all the way from being Associate Head coach at Mississippi State to irrelevance, obscurity and disgrace. He had a few stops at academic fraud, improper payments and NCAA rules violations along the way.

Also, signing day in December came and went without a single signee.

Again, I admire your enthusiasm. But FPC's statement is a good indicator of how the Cajun program is viewed outside the Acadiana area and even within the Acadiana era by other fanbases, the LSU fanbase in particular. It's not what Ricky Bustle inherited, but it's still pretty low. Rock bottom is a fairly accurate statement. The Cajun program really needs to get on the field and win some games for that to change.

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Rock bottom? Not sure how you define rock botttom? 5 out of the last 7 years were winning seasons. 4 of them were 9-4 records. In that time frame 4-1 in bowl games. Even last year 5-7 I wouldn't consider any of that "Rock Bottom." Was it where it needs to be considering the size school and resources available? Obciously not as first year AD Brian Maggard decided to make a coaching move and invested more into the program. If you've got the resources you can spend them. RCAF raised 12.4 mil last year for that reason. I wouldn't say we had to over reach at all in paying assistants. We are basically just stepping up to the plate, and competing with the upper echelon of the G5, which is right where we need to be.

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Since when does USL have four 9 win seasons?

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but when you CHEAT and the NCAA makes you vacate 22 wins in four years, you don't get to count those games as wins.

They're officially in the record books as...wait for it...LOSSES. Since we're on this topic, what's USL's actual record after the debacle commonly known as the Hudspeth era? I'm gonna guess that you're probably hovering just under .500, as usual.

USL's been mediocre for several generations. It'll be interesting to see if the new guy, with quality staff, can turn that around.

LOL, 9-4...yeah right.

Hell, it took all you guys had to eek out an 8 point win against a subpar, struggling 6-5 McNeese team, despite having a 22 scholarship advantage.

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Kent:

FormerPokeCenter posted this yesterday about the Hudspeth era in Lafayette: I'll quote him: Mark Hudspeth rode his .449 Ragin Cajun winning percentage all the way from being Associate Head coach at Mississippi State to irrelevance, obscurity and disgrace. He had a few stops at academic fraud, improper payments and NCAA rules violations along the way.

Also, signing day in December came and went without a single signee.

Again, I admire your enthusiasm. But FPC's statement is a good indicator of how the Cajun program is viewed outside the Acadiana area and even within the Acadiana era by other fanbases, the LSU fanbase in particular. It's not what Ricky Bustle inherited, but it's still pretty low. Rock bottom is a fairly accurate statement. The Cajun program really needs to get on the field and win some games for that to change.

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The thing that really speaks volumes about what others around the country think of ULL is the fact that they're still in the Sun Belt Conference. They're still stuck there, while several of their former conference mates (UNT, FAU, MT, WKU, and FIU) were chose over them for membership in CUSA. Despite this fact, the delusional ULL faithful to this day have convinced themselves that now it's only a matter of time before the AAC will be calling to invite them to join that conference. This will happen, of course, only as a precursor to ULL's being invited to join the Big 12 once Texas and Oklahoma leave that conference for the PAC 10. They believe this stuff despite the fact that, once again, one of their major programs (football this time) was just penalized by the NCAA for cheating. Around the country, ULL is known for its reputation as cheaters. It's something that is part of the culture that is Lafayette. A "coon ass" thing, if you will.

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You talkin bout dat UL-Laugh 'Recruiting Zone' wit outdoor bar & grill, cher!

http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/...ewideparty.jpg

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I think Dawg06 was the culprit of these? I think we need to see his entire portfolio of work. There were some good ones of Skip's pic at the DQ Dash - photoshopped him in the background. Probably need a poll of the favorites.

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It says: "Also in Napier's contract is $2 million for assistant coaches and staff."

So that number includes S&C staff plus perhaps whatever full-times managers and trainers are assigned to football, maybe even a dedicated SID person who is full-time. Am I reading that correctly? So it's not really $2 million for the coaches. Correct, Kent?

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Nice try obviously the 2 million was for football. S&C, SID, managers and trainers work for all sports so their pay comes out of the general fund. Napier's 2 mil was to put together a staff. By the way Napier just hired 2 full time nutritionist also, who's pay wont be coming out of that either. I don't think Billy negotiated on behalf of the entire athletic program when it came to his contract.

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Kent:

FormerPokeCenter posted this yesterday about the Hudspeth era in Lafayette: I'll quote him: Mark Hudspeth rode his .449 Ragin Cajun winning percentage all the way from being Associate Head coach at Mississippi State to irrelevance, obscurity and disgrace. He had a few stops at academic fraud, improper payments and NCAA rules violations along the way.

Also, signing day in December came and went without a single signee.

Again, I admire your enthusiasm. But FPC's statement is a good indicator of how the Cajun program is viewed outside the Acadiana area and even within the Acadiana era by other fanbases, the LSU fanbase in particular. It's not what Ricky Bustle inherited, but it's still pretty low. Rock bottom is a fairly accurate statement. The Cajun program really needs to get on the field and win some games for that to change.

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Huds record was 51-38. I know what I saw.

I agree with the Broke Back Center all things he said are true. We had a president that neglected athletics for over 30 years stretching from the 70s to 2ks. Dr Ray wouldn't allow athletic fundraising at all, it was like an entire department in shackles. We are just starting to pull out of that now. Any way y'all keep living in the past but trust me when I say the AD we have now has more vision in his pinky than an previous has ever had.

Don't remember if I mention that last year the RCAF raised 12.4 million and you guys raised 1.5. How bout your foundation Broke Back Poke what did y'all raise?

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Nice try obviously the 2 million was for football. S&C, SID, managers and trainers work for all sports so their pay comes out of the general fund. Napier's 2 mil was to put together a staff. By the way Napier just hired 2 full time nutritionist also, who's pay wont be coming out of that either. I don't think Billy negotiated on behalf of the entire athletic program when it came to his contract.

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Well I stand corrected. I guess all of us on this board were wrong for doubting you. For the Cajun athletic department to be paying $2 million per year to a 10-person staff the 2 coordinators must be making around 500k per year. That's a lot for a coach who has never coached in the FBS and another who has never called plays.

But I guess it is what it is. For me to doubt you like that and for the Bulldog faithful on this board to give you a hard time like this we owe you a beer at some point.

I guess I was wrong. The RaginPagin must have been right on this since the Daily Advertiser said it was so, as well. Anybody have anything to add to this? Anybody else want to offer an apology to Kent!

Dawg06 - you have anything to add?

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Ron Roberts is a very successful head coach with a defensive back ground. Roberts was the mentor for Dave Aranda. He credits Ron Roberts for much of his defensive knowledge, as he worked under him at Delta State. Rob Sale will continue to not call plays, that will be his good friend Billy Napier. Those 2 completely ran the offense last year at Arizona St, and will continue to do it the same way here. As for over paying coaches not sure how to put a price tag on that? They haven't coached a game yet. If early recruiting is any indicatoion they are worth every penny, as 247 sports has them ranked in the top 3 of all G5 schools, and 54 over all currently, for the 2109 class. If they continue that trend for a few years the success will be soon to follow, in a very big way.

https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Fo...eTeamRankings/

Source for coaches pay as requested.

https://www.theadvertiser.com/story/...arn/969064001/

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The Advertiser is what our president calls "fake news."

Skip's base salary is $200,000 greater than what your The Advertiser is reporting: $700,000.

And ULL's assistant coach salary pool is $1.73 million. Not $2 million.

Here are the facts:

No.	Coach	ULL Salary
1	Roberts	$325,000
2	Sale	$325,000
3	Juluke	$200,000
4	Leger	$145,000
5	Powledge	$145,000
6	Segrest	$145,000
7	Toney	$145,000
8	Looney	$100,000
9	Desormeaux	$100,000
10	Etheridge	$100,000
TOTAL		$1,730,000

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Huds record was 51-38. I know what I saw.

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Cheating....You saw cheating...and you thought it was quality football. Typical Ragged Couyon fan. So desperate for relevance that you're willing to overlook cheating and corruption.

It would be amusing if it weren't so damned sad.

If you merely vacate the wins and treat the games that he cheated in as though they didn't hapen, his record is 29-38.

If you assess them as losses, as probably should be done, he's at 29-60.

Stellar stuff there! Clearly, he's destined for the Couyon Hallf of Fame!

In my best R. Lee Ermey imitation: Holy #$%&!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't believe it. The RaginPagin and Daily Advertiser were wrong. :icon_razz: Who would have ever guessed???

So Kent it looks like the Cajun athletic department isn't paying $2 million a year to your 10 assistants after all. In fact, far from it. I should have believed my initial gut feeling along with some historical perspective and known that the high dollar number was probably nonsense. It looks like The Daily Advertiser never bothered to check the contracts.

But we'll still buy you a beer. When your nephew decommits during the season and make a trip up to Ruston in December to sign during the early signing period. You can come with him and take a look at his new home in the piney woods.

Damn. You guys are harsh. I did get a good laugh out of the thread though.

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Damn. You guys are harsh. I did get a good laugh out of the thread though.

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They don't call them UL-Laf for nothing...

Just out of Curiousity.....is Billy Napier any relation to Alan Napier, who played Alfred the Butler on the classic Batman series from the 60's?

I only ask, because maybe USL can take some name change inspiration from that. They could become The Butlers!

Can't you just imagine the Chili Pepper mascot wearing a Bat mask, and - in his best raspy Bat Dad Voice - screaming "I'm the University of Louisiana!"??

I can't be the only one who envisions this....

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Don't remember if I mention that last year the RCAF raised 12.4 million and you guys raised 1.5. How bout your foundation Broke Back Poke what did y'all raise?

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Whoa, whoa, whoa. The Historian can't have all the fun.

According to the most recent LA Legislative Auditor reports here were normal contributions to the respective foundations for the period ending June 30, 2017...

ULL - $1,835,329 ($2,084,105 if you include in-kind donations and a small NCAA distribution)
La Tech - $2,156,156

https://www.lla.la.gov/PublicReports.nsf/2097D841B0BAA08086258234006F9D32/$FILE/000179B3.pdf
https://www.lla.la.gov/PublicReports.nsf/25A6087410997C75862582340071DBE9/$FILE/000179B7.pdf

We've had our own capital campaigns recently for the endzone facility and press box and raised millions of one time, non repeating donations, but unlike you guys, we don't feel the need to resort to the pumping up of things to try to make ourselves look bigger.

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but unlike you guys, we don't feel the need to resort to the pumping up of things to try to make ourselves look bigger.

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I see what you did there.....well done.

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I see what you did there.....well done.

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Whoa, whoa, whoa. The Historian can't have all the fun.

According to the most recent LA Legislative Auditor reports here were normal contributions to the respective foundations for the period ending June 30, 2017...

ULL - $1,835,329 ($2,084,105 if you include in-kind donations and a small NCAA distribution)
La Tech - $2,156,156

https://www.lla.la.gov/PublicReports.nsf/2097D841B0BAA08086258234006F9D32/$FILE/000179B3.pdf
https://www.lla.la.gov/PublicReports.nsf/25A6087410997C75862582340071DBE9/$FILE/000179B7.pdf

We've had our own capital campaigns recently for the endzone facility and press box and raised millions of one time, non repeating donations, but unlike you guys, we don't feel the need to resort to the pumping up of things to try to make ourselves look bigger.

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Just out of curiousity, do you guys have a lot of debt service on the endzone and/or pressbox projects? I only ask because I'm hearing rumors that the Couyons are paying interest on their mediocrity...

Wait, that actually sounds like it could be a book title...."Paying Interest on Mediocrity: The USL story"

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Just out of curiousity, do you guys have a lot of debt service on the endzone and/or pressbox projects? I only ask because I'm hearing rumors that the Couyons are paying interest on their mediocrity...

Wait, that actually sounds like it could be a book title...."Paying Interest on Mediocrity: The USL story"

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Yeah. We have some debt, but it's not in the same stratosphere as what the Cajuns are dealing with.

As of about a year ago, the debt service on the GO bonds and bank loan that the Cajuns had on their books was to the tune of $55 million over the next 26 years. There is talk in Lafayette about a renovation to Cajun Field, but it's doubtful the Board of Regents allows any debt to be floated for it until the current debt is either paid off or dramatically reduced.

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My thoughts exactly. Kent is an azzhole, and ULL really sucks. Kent keeps talking about "the future" because ULL has no worthy past, and he doesn't have to prove anything when talking about the future. :laugh:

ULL is a coaches grave yard. Kent knows it, and so do we. Coach Roid was further proof of it. Fact is, ULL kills more coaching careers than Father Time.

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Still the best comment on this thread. ;)

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Yeah. We have some debt, but it's not in the same stratosphere as what the Cajuns are dealing with.

As of about a year ago, the debt service on the GO bonds and bank loan that the Cajuns had on their books was to the tune of $55 million over the next 26 years. There is talk in Lafayette about a renovation to Cajun Field, but it's doubtful the Board of Regents allows any debt to be floated for it until the current debt is either paid off or dramatically reduced.

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Renovate Cajun Field by turning it into a solid waste landfill.

That way it'll serve a useful purpose for the Lafayette tax payers....

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Still the best comment on this thread. ;)

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impressive that hogdawg praising hogdawg post as best when the legendary Houston is giving information rather usual garbage

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Dogsince65... I appreciate the dog out of you!! Stay positive brother... Tech grows with people like you and falls without people like you. True Blue! Don't let them sour you on this program.

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thanks-- 11,838 posts without anything to say! one with 48,000 posts just does not impress me -- my roots with Tech goes back to 1965 and my logo says it all-- I am Sunshine pumper and we have enough know it all negative posters -- somehow having an athletic scholarship with your name on it is overused when you assume all 11,838 have been read ... it says so on logo. 4 brother grad Tech Son grad Tech Granddaughter sophomore Tech -I taught English -Tech on grad assistantship and been a die hard since 1965 -- missed about 5 games over those years and never missed a bowl game. My only regret about BBB is how many Bulldogs quit reading BBB because of the negativity -- trying to be CNN

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Huds record was 51-38. I know what I saw.

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I usually resist the temptation but I just can't

Did you see those last two ass kickings? And the ten before that?

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The Advertiser is what our president calls "fake news."

Skip's base salary is $200,000 greater than what your The Advertiser is reporting: $700,000.

And ULL's assistant coach salary pool is $1.73 million. Not $2 million.

Here are the facts:

No.	Coach	ULL Salary
1	Roberts	$325,000
2	Sale	$325,000
3	Juluke	$200,000
4	Leger	$145,000
5	Powledge	$145,000
6	Segrest	$145,000
7	Toney	$145,000
8	Looney	$100,000
9	Desormeaux	$100,000
10	Etheridge	$100,000
TOTAL		$1,730,000

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First of all not a one of those guys have ever coached at the school you mentioned to my knowledge. Not sure where it is. S0 anyway since I recognize the coaches names, I'll assume it was a type o. You've got 1.7 million right there on the field. One thing Napier has done, in an effort to copy is mentor Nick, is hire more off of the field football staff. Not S&C, SID, managers and trainers as previous mentioned. He has a director of player personnel, he has an on campus recruiting position, a director of football operations, to go along offensive and defensive quality control positions, much like Bama and other P5s. He has more eyes and ears on this program than it ever has had before. I read one article, out of an Alabama publication, that states "Napier is bringing the Saban process to Cajun country", just with a few less bucks to do so.

I never once said that all 2 mill was accounted for with on field coaches. I just said he had 2 mil to assemble a football staff, which includes several off of the field positions as well. That is not just a Nick thing, all schools who can afford to does, that. But I guess according to one Jack Leg on here they all have to over pay to get a good staff.

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Originally Posted by The Historian

Yeah. We have some debt, but it's not in the same stratosphere as what the Cajuns are dealing with.

As of about a year ago, the debt service on the GO bonds and bank loan that the Cajuns had on their books was to the tune of $55 million over the next 26 years. There is talk in Lafayette about a renovation to Cajun Field, but it's doubtful the Board of Regents allows any debt to be floated for it until the current debt is either paid off or dramatically reduced.

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You should change your user name to CNN because you are full of false information AKA fake news. You comparing the campus construction debt to athletic cost. All athletic facility upgrades have come from private donors.

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Originally Posted by touchdown123

I usually resist the temptation but I just can't

Did you see those last two ass kickings? And the ten before that?

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Yes I did see those. Very embarrassing to lose to the smaller schools within your system. That is what happens when there was no one to fire Doc Ray who hung around for 30 plus years. I am glad we got a new admin and athletic director that won't tolerate that kind of mediocrity any more. Keep looking back, those were the good ole days. I sincerely hoped you enjoyed them.

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Originally Posted by Kent

First of all not a one of those guys have ever coached at the school you mentioned to my knowledge. Not sure where it is. S0 anyway since I recognize the coaches names, I'll assume it was a type o. You've got 1.7 million right there on the field. One thing Napier has done, in an effort to copy is mentor Nick, is hire more off of the field football staff. Not S&C, SID, managers and trainers as previous mentioned. He has a director of player personnel, he has an on campus recruiting position, a director of football operations, to go along offensive and defensive quality control positions, much like Bama and other P5s. He has more eyes and ears on this program than it ever has had before. I read one article, out of an Alabama publication, that states "Napier is bringing the Saban process to Cajun country", just with a few less bucks to do so.

I never once said that all 2 mill was accounted for with on field coaches. I just said he had 2 mil to assemble a football staff, which includes several off of the field positions as well. That is not just a Nick thing, all schools who can afford to does, that. But I guess according to one Jack Leg on here they all have to over pay to get a good staff.

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I draw your attention to the Louisiana Legislature's Act 45 of 1995. Perhaps that'll enlighten you as to the identity and location of UL@L. You didn't graduate from college in Lafayette, did you??

Louisiana Legislative Act 45 (Senate Bill 843)
Senators: Cecil J. Picard and Armand J. Brinkhaus
Representatives: McDonald, McFerren, Montgomery, and Thompson

Policy Number: M-(2)
University of Louisiana System
Title: NAME CHANGE POLICIES
AND GUIDELINES
Effective Date: September, 1998
Cancellation: None
Chapter: Miscellaneous

Policy and Procedures Memorandum Preface

Act 45 (Appendix A) of the 1995 Regular Session of the Louisiana Legislature (Senate Bill
843 by Picard and Brinkhaus, and Representatives McDonald, McFerren, Montgomery and
Thompson) officially named the system of institutions under the supervision and management of the
Board of Trustees for State Colleges and Universities the “University of Louisiana System.” The Act
also authorized the Board of Trustees and Board of Regents to approve the change of name of any
university within the System to the “University of Louisiana at (its geographic location)” provided no
less than two institutions make a request for and are approved to change the institutional names.
In order to facilitate the provisions of Act 45, institutions should adhere to the following
guidelines:

I. Institutional Status

Each institution within the University of Louisiana System has a distinct character
based upon its role, scope, mission and the educational needs of the population it serves. The
Southern Regional Education Board (SREB) and Carnegie classification systems shall be
used to illustrate distinctions and differentiations among member institutions and shall not be
used to imply explicitly or implicitly a hierarchy of member institutional rankings.

NAME CHANGE POLICIES AND GUIDELINES


There shall be no institution designated as the main (primary) campus for the
University of Louisiana System. Any designation of or reference to a member institution as
“flagship,” “lead,” “main,” or by other similar descriptors is prohibited.

II. Institution Name Change Procedure
Any university within the University of Louisiana System wishing to change its name
shall utilize the following procedure:

A. The university president shall appoint a study committee composed of representatives
from the student body, staff, faculty, alumni and community (non-alumni) to assess
the favorability of the name change for the institution. For Grambling State
University, a procedure is prescribed in Louisiana Act 45 of 1995, Section 1.(e).

B. Following a favorable recommendation by the study committee, the president of the
university must submit a formal letter of application to the System office for Board of
Trustees approval. The application must be received at least 30 days prior to Board
meeting date. The application must be accompanied by the following:
1. evidence of support for the name change,
2. a plan for publicizing and marketing the name change,
3. copy of the proposed logo and/or seal (to be approved by the Board), and
4. a description of plans for publication and commercial use of the logo/seal
and name.

C. Following approval by the Board of Trustees, the request shall be submitted to the
Board of Regents.

III. University and System Name Guidelines

All institutions within the University of Louisiana System are to comply with the
following precepts and guidelines set forth to govern and coordinate the use of the University
of Louisiana name and logo:

A. As previously stated, there is no main campus for the University of Louisiana
System. Any designation of or reference to a member institution as “flagship,”
“lead,” “main,” or other similar descriptor is prohibited.

NAME CHANGE POLICIES AND GUIDELINES

B. The use of the University of Louisiana System logo and/or the phrase “University of
Louisiana System” by an institution for commercial purposes or general use must
have prior approval by the Board of Supervisors for the University of Louisiana
System.

C. The use of the two-letter University of Louisiana abbreviation, “UL,” and/or the phrase “U of L” are prohibited by the university or any of its affiliated organizations
(alumni associations, development foundations, bookstores, etc.). For academic,
public relations, athletic, as well as other purposes not specified, the use of the
University of Louisiana abbreviation must always include the abbreviation for the
municipal location of the institution. For example, ULR is appropriate for University
of Louisiana at Rayne.

D. All uses of the name “University of Louisiana” must be followed by the word “at”
and the institution’s geographic location. No typographic variations within the name
are permitted. The word “at” must be no less than 50% and the geographic location
must not exceed 100% nor be less than 80% of the University of Louisiana name.
Any institutional use of “University of Louisiana” without the “at” and geographic
location is prohibited.
E. All institutions, whether or not their names are changed to the University of
Louisiana designation, must use the wording “A Member of the University of
Louisiana System” prominently on all stationery as well as on title pages of
university/college catalogs, magazines, newspapers, and journals.

F. Any adaptation of the University of Louisiana System logo and seal to university use
must be reviewed and approved prior to their use by the System office and the Board.

The University of Louisiana @ Delusions of Grandeur has a nice ring to it....

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Yes I did see those. Very embarrassing to lose to the smaller schools within your system. That is what happens when there was no one to fire Doc Ray who hung around for 30 plus years. I am glad we got a new admin and athletic director that won't tolerate that kind of mediocrity any more. Keep looking back, those were the good ole days. I sincerely hoped you enjoyed them.

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I'm sure if I looked I could find some of your comments boasting about Hud when he was there. It's better to compare your football program to ULM at this point because we own yall.

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Originally Posted by The Historian

Kent:

FormerPokeCenter posted this yesterday about the Hudspeth era in Lafayette: I'll quote him: Mark Hudspeth rode his .449 Ragin Cajun winning percentage all the way from being Associate Head coach at Mississippi State to irrelevance, obscurity and disgrace. He had a few stops at academic fraud, improper payments and NCAA rules violations along the way.

Also, signing day in December came and went without a single signee.

Again, I admire your enthusiasm. But FPC's statement is a good indicator of how the Cajun program is viewed outside the Acadiana area and even within the Acadiana era by other fanbases, the LSU fanbase in particular. It's not what Ricky Bustle inherited, but it's still pretty low. Rock bottom is a fairly accurate statement. The Cajun program really needs to get on the field and win some games for that to change.

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"Signing day came and went in December.....". What does that have to do with anything? Our coach was hired in mid December and had no staff in place. He choose not to sign any with out his staff's input. When he was hired 70% of the pool of candidates were gone and they did quite well considering. 2019 will be his first real class. Stay tuned, currently only 2 G5 schools rank ahead of the school in Lafayette, according to 247 sports.

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Originally Posted by FormerPokeCenter

I draw your attention to the Louisiana Legislature's Act 45 of 1995. Perhaps that'll enlighten you as to the identity and location of UL@L. You didn't graduate from college in Lafayette, did you??

Louisiana Legislative Act 45 (Senate Bill 843)
Senators: Cecil J. Picard and Armand J. Brinkhaus
Representatives: McDonald, McFerren, Montgomery, and Thompson

Policy Number: M-(2)
University of Louisiana System
Title: NAME CHANGE POLICIES
AND GUIDELINES
Effective Date: September, 1998
Cancellation: None
Chapter: Miscellaneous

Policy and Procedures Memorandum Preface

Act 45 (Appendix A) of the 1995 Regular Session of the Louisiana Legislature (Senate Bill
843 by Picard and Brinkhaus, and Representatives McDonald, McFerren, Montgomery and
Thompson) officially named the system of institutions under the supervision and management of the
Board of Trustees for State Colleges and Universities the “University of Louisiana System.” The Act
also authorized the Board of Trustees and Board of Regents to approve the change of name of any
university within the System to the “University of Louisiana at (its geographic location)” provided no
less than two institutions make a request for and are approved to change the institutional names.
In order to facilitate the provisions of Act 45, institutions should adhere to the following
guidelines:

I. Institutional Status

Each institution within the University of Louisiana System has a distinct character
based upon its role, scope, mission and the educational needs of the population it serves. The
Southern Regional Education Board (SREB) and Carnegie classification systems shall be
used to illustrate distinctions and differentiations among member institutions and shall not be
used to imply explicitly or implicitly a hierarchy of member institutional rankings.

NAME CHANGE POLICIES AND GUIDELINES


There shall be no institution designated as the main (primary) campus for the
University of Louisiana System. Any designation of or reference to a member institution as
“flagship,” “lead,” “main,” or by other similar descriptors is prohibited.

II. Institution Name Change Procedure
Any university within the University of Louisiana System wishing to change its name
shall utilize the following procedure:

A. The university president shall appoint a study committee composed of representatives
from the student body, staff, faculty, alumni and community (non-alumni) to assess
the favorability of the name change for the institution. For Grambling State
University, a procedure is prescribed in Louisiana Act 45 of 1995, Section 1.(e).

B. Following a favorable recommendation by the study committee, the president of the
university must submit a formal letter of application to the System office for Board of
Trustees approval. The application must be received at least 30 days prior to Board
meeting date. The application must be accompanied by the following:
1. evidence of support for the name change,
2. a plan for publicizing and marketing the name change,
3. copy of the proposed logo and/or seal (to be approved by the Board), and
4. a description of plans for publication and commercial use of the logo/seal
and name.

C. Following approval by the Board of Trustees, the request shall be submitted to the
Board of Regents.

III. University and System Name Guidelines

All institutions within the University of Louisiana System are to comply with the
following precepts and guidelines set forth to govern and coordinate the use of the University
of Louisiana name and logo:

A. As previously stated, there is no main campus for the University of Louisiana
System. Any designation of or reference to a member institution as “flagship,”
“lead,” “main,” or other similar descriptor is prohibited.

NAME CHANGE POLICIES AND GUIDELINES

B. The use of the University of Louisiana System logo and/or the phrase “University of
Louisiana System” by an institution for commercial purposes or general use must
have prior approval by the Board of Supervisors for the University of Louisiana
System.

C. The use of the two-letter University of Louisiana abbreviation, “UL,” and/or the phrase “U of L” are prohibited by the university or any of its affiliated organizations
(alumni associations, development foundations, bookstores, etc.). For academic,
public relations, athletic, as well as other purposes not specified, the use of the
University of Louisiana abbreviation must always include the abbreviation for the
municipal location of the institution. For example, ULR is appropriate for University
of Louisiana at Rayne.

D. All uses of the name “University of Louisiana” must be followed by the word “at”
and the institution’s geographic location. No typographic variations within the name
are permitted. The word “at” must be no less than 50% and the geographic location
must not exceed 100% nor be less than 80% of the University of Louisiana name.
Any institutional use of “University of Louisiana” without the “at” and geographic
location is prohibited.
E. All institutions, whether or not their names are changed to the University of
Louisiana designation, must use the wording “A Member of the University of
Louisiana System” prominently on all stationery as well as on title pages of
university/college catalogs, magazines, newspapers, and journals.

F. Any adaptation of the University of Louisiana System logo and seal to university use
must be reviewed and approved prior to their use by the System office and the Board.

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You ever went 75 in a 70 and got stopped? Yep. I thought not. Thats about how much weight that law holds in athletic branding. It is completely an academic thing. You do know that law was passed to change the University of Louisiana's name to USL. First time ever the legislature stepped in to reverse a legal name change. The judge in the appeals case was an LSU alum and would not recuse himself from the trial. Louisiana shady politics at its best.

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You ever went 75 in a 70 and got stopped? Yep. I thought not. Thats about how much weight that law holds in athletic branding. It is completely an academic thing. You do know that law was passed to change the University of Louisiana's name to USL. First time ever the legislature stepped in to reverse a legal name change. The judge in the appeals case was an LSU alum and would not recuse himself from the trial. Louisiana shady politics at its best.

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I thought you didn't like to look at the past?

The 1984 Court Decision is old news.

What did the Louisiana Legislature say?

And, thank you for admitting that the UL@L is - institutionally - a scoflaw.

Coincidentally, do you guys still have a brick honoring Al Queda terrorist Wadih El Hage in your walk of honor?

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Originally Posted by Kent

You should change your user name to CNN because you are full of false information AKA fake news. You comparing the campus construction debt to athletic cost. All athletic facility upgrades have come from private donors.

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I’m sorry Kent, this may be hard to read... and I’m sure you’ll want to call a legislative auditor’s report fake news. You just keep on believing that some unknown rich donors pulled $50+ million out of their butts in the past few years while living on a $28.3 million athletic budget, of which $12.8 million comes straight from the university.

https://www.lla.la.gov/PublicReports.nsf/3C0EEB8AA7EB6B7A862581F5005FCF1E/$FILE/00016CEB.pdf

I didn’t take the time to add precisely, but it’s around $52 million in bonds and loans for athletic facilities in the last few years from what I can tell. It appears that private donations covered amounts spent in excess of the bond issuance. Really only three major projects with bonds or loans for athletics... indoor facility, Cajundome, and baseball field.

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Originally Posted by zharkins

I’m sorry Kent, this may be hard to read... and I’m sure you’ll want to call a legislative auditor’s report fake news. You just keep on believing that some unknown rich donors pulled $50+ million out of their butts in the past few years while living on a $28.3 million athletic budget, of which $12.8 million comes straight from the university.

https://www.lla.la.gov/PublicReports.nsf/3C0EEB8AA7EB6B7A862581F5005FCF1E/$FILE/00016CEB.pdf

I didn’t take the time to add precisely, but it’s around $52 million in bonds and loans for athletic facilities in the last few years from what I can tell. It appears that private donations covered amounts spent in excess of the bond issuance. Really only three major projects with bonds or loans for athletics... indoor facility, Cajundome, and baseball field.

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"Paying Interest on Mediocrity: The USL Story.."

Guess it depends on how you define the words "All," and "no."

[ D. All uses of the name “University of Louisiana” must be followed by the word “at”
and the institution’s geographic location. No typographic variations within the name
are permitted. ] :icon_roll:

Ragin Cajuns, Peppers, Louisiana, knock yourself out, BUT you are UL-L, NOT(need this defined?), UL.

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Thanks for the your service in our US Army Special Forces Rusty. With 2 tours in Iraq you are a true American hero. The cowards here, that post your picture on this board, and make fun of your unbridled intensity, would crumble to their knees, if ever confronted by you. I enjoy my freedoms everyday, and appreciate your sacrifices.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rusty_Whitt

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Originally Posted by FormerPokeCenter

I thought you didn't like to look at the past?

The 1984 Court Decision is old news.

What did the Louisiana Legislature say?

And, thank you for admitting that the UL@L is - institutionally - a scoflaw.

Coincidentally, do you guys still have a brick honoring Al Queda terrorist Wadih El Hage in your walk of honor?

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Aw Cher Bebe look at you poke, coming over here to join in with your brothers, to gang up on y'all big brother. Y'all should invite some folks from Monroe to join you, then y'all could really show em. You sound like a little kid that is a tattletale on his big brother. "I am going tell momma y'all are not using your U's, L's and Louisiana right. Not fair if he can do it why can't I? Wah, Wah, Wah, why don't you cry me a river.

Well little poke and Techsters you can't do it because you are not the big brother, maybe when you get big.

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Originally Posted by Kent

Aw Cher Bebe look at you poke, coming over here to join in with your brothers, to gang up on y'all big brother. Y'all should invite some folks from Monroe to join you, then y'all could really show em. You sound like a little kid that is a tattletale on his big brother. "I am going tell momma y'all are not using your U's, L's and Louisiana right. Not fair if he can do it why can't I? Wah, Wah, Wah, why don't you cry me a river.

Well little poke and Techsters you can't do it because you are not the big brother, maybe when you get big.

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So that's a yes, then? You're still honoring the Al Queda guy as a top USL graduate?

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Well little poke and Techsters you can't do it because you are not the big brother, maybe when you get big.

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You know, you are right. We aren’t ull’s big brother.

WE ARE YOUR DADDY!

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Originally Posted by rabiddawg

You know, you are right. We aren’t ull’s big brother.

WE ARE YOUR DADDY!

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USL didn't pay much attention to the rules under Hud, just like they didn't pay much attention to the rules when they were "good" in other sports.


Even now, they're not paying attention to the rules of etiquette. Decorum dictates that you shouldn't talk smack to fans of teams who've traditionally owned you.

But, Cajun Fan eeeks out an 8-point win over a struggling 6-5 FCS squad, who's got 22 fewer schollies, and suddenly he thinks it's evidence of clear separation between the program.

After having gotten their asses beaten for so long, I'm sure that an 8-point win looks like the mother of all vindication games for them.

Is anybody really surprised that they're not paying attention to the rules by which they were named?

It's not like they're known for anything other than being a laughing stock who can't even cheat correctly...

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Originally Posted by Kent

Thanks for the your service in our US Army Special Forces Rusty. With 2 tours in Iraq you are a true American hero. The cowards here, that post your picture on this board, and make fun of your unbridled intensity, would crumble to their knees, if ever confronted by you. I enjoy my freedoms everyday, and appreciate your sacrifices.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rusty_Whitt

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We appreciate his service too. That doesn’t make him immune to being made fun of for doing something laughably stupid.

Like signing on with USL?

Oh wait. He left after 2016 and moved on to Texas Tech. Maybe he's pretty smart afterall...He got outta there before the implosion.

Good Job Coach Whitt!

He may be the only coach in USL history who's gone on to do something better after his tenure @Lafayette was over.

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Originally Posted by Kent

Thanks for the your service in our US Army Special Forces Rusty. With 2 tours in Iraq you are a true American hero. The cowards here, that post your picture on this board, and make fun of your unbridled intensity, would crumble to their knees, if ever confronted by you. I enjoy my freedoms everyday, and appreciate your sacrifices.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rusty_Whitt

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Ahh, you played the honor code card. You probably voted for our idiot lying governor who claimed to be honorable because he went to west point. I bet you are a John McCain fan too.

I know alot of veterans who think it is cheesy to put fake blood on your head. You know why? Because it is CHEESY.

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Originally Posted by Kent

Thanks for the your service in our US Army Special Forces Rusty. With 2 tours in Iraq you are a true American hero. The cowards here, that post your picture on this board, and make fun of your unbridled intensity, would crumble to their knees, if ever confronted by you. I enjoy my freedoms everyday, and appreciate your sacrifices.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rusty_Whitt

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It's nice to see that you think so highly of TEXAS TECH'S cheesy Strength & Conditioning coach. :laugh:

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Ahh, you played the honor code card. You probably voted for our idiot lying governor who claimed to be honorable because he went to west point. I bet you are a John McCain fan too.

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Let me answer you this way. My cousin in law is our current attorney general. He and I share the same political views. Who do you think I voted for?

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Originally Posted by rabiddawg

You know, you are right. We aren’t ull’s big brother.

WE ARE YOUR DADDY!

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Yep, they say the kids always need the parents approval. I guess that's why he keeps hanging out here. I don't understand why anyone would want to come on a board of another school and talk smack. Of course, I know we have people that do it too- I just don't understand why. I cheer for my school and don't worry about those that are less fortunate and make bad choices to go elsewhere- or those that couldn't get in TECH.:D

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Originally Posted by Cal&Ken

Yep, they say the kids always need the parents approval. I guess that's why he keeps hanging out here. I don't understand why anyone would want to come on a board of another school and talk smack. Of course, I know we have people that do it too- I just don't understand why. I cheer for my school and don't worry about those that are less fortunate and make bad choices to go elsewhere- or those that couldn't get in TECH.:D

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I came on this site to look at recruiting stuff as my nephew was offered by tech. Saw the tittle of this thread and was shocked, I just assumed you guys would have already had your 10th coach in place. I just asked why and what your budget was for the football staff, just out of curiosity. That is when the insults started flying. I could care less about LATech, but I never back down from insults or a debate.

Anyway sticking with the most current debate some of you folks need to look up the definition of big, bigger and biggest. I realize it may be over your head. Sometimes a little brother beats a big brother but he is still your little brother.

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Originally Posted by Kent

I came on this site to look at recruiting stuff as my nephew was offered by tech. Saw the tittle of this thread and was shocked, I just assumed you guys would have already had your 10th coach in place. I just asked why and what your budget was for the football staff, just out of curiosity. That is when the insults started flying. I could care less about LATech, but I never back down from insults or a debate.

Anyway sticking with the most current debate some of you folks need to look up the definition of big, bigger and biggest. I realize it may be over your head. Sometimes a little brother beats a big brother but he is still your little brother.

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Could not care less is what you meant to say.

It's about results, not size. Has Lafayette ever beaten a decent P5 team? Has Lafayette ever beaten Tech when you didn't have the great QB/Receiver combo of Delhome/Stokely? Was that like 25 years ago?

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Has Lafayette ever beaten Tech when you didn't have the great QB/Receiver combo of Delhome/Stokely? Was that like 25 years ago?

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22 years.

That was an odd season. Beat Miss St on the road. Gave the Hogs all they could handle in LR.

Then laid an egg at home vs the Cajuns.

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Originally Posted by Kent

I came on this site to look at recruiting stuff as my nephew was offered by tech. Saw the tittle of this thread and was shocked, I just assumed you guys would have already had your 10th coach in place. I just asked why and what your budget was for the football staff, just out of curiosity. That is when the insults started flying. I could care less about LATech, but I never back down from insults or a debate.

Anyway sticking with the most current debate some of you folks need to look up the definition of big, bigger and biggest. I realize it may be over your head. Sometimes a little brother beats a big brother but he is still your little brother.

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And yet you stay. You will never get approval from YOUR DADDY here.:laugh::laugh::laugh: I guess all that to say- it really is true. You will always be looking for your parents approval. If it wasn't so, you would already be gone.

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Could not care less is what you meant to say.

It's about results, not size. Has Lafayette ever beaten a decent P5 team? Has Lafayette ever beaten Tech when you didn't have the great QB/Receiver combo of Delhome/Stokely? Was that like 25 years ago?

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Actually it is not about football only and never has been. Its the total picture. All you have is a few football wins the rest ain't even close. And yes size matters. I drive through your campus about every 7 weeks, when I work in N. La. and trust me it's not even close. I will be the first to admit we had a horrible president, for athletics, for 30 years. But that has changed, and there is no doubt the school in Louisiana, with the most resources, and in the best community to strive going forward is in Lafayette. Just look at the 12.4mil donations compared to 1.5 by the athletics foundations last year.

Hey, you won the past congratulations. You can thank Ray Authement for that.

It's a new day.

K-State and Tx A&M.

Serious question to y'all be honest.

Lets say our rolls were reversed you had the name of the school in Lafayette, and we were Tech, you were the bigger school, with the nicer facilities. You know you would take the same approach to marketing as we do now. Correct? Now be honest with yourself.

:icon_roll:

Not to pile on, but we heard similar things when Hudspeth came on board. You guys have definitely made some progress don't get me wrong. You have more students and you are in a bigger city. Maybe ULL is on the way up, but forgive us if we aren't quaking in our boots. I think most of us feel like we are making lots of progress as well and we have a head start in academic perception and athletics. Your opinion may vary.

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Serious question to y'all be honest.

Lets say our rolls were reversed you had the name of the school in Lafayette, and we were Tech, you were the bigger school, with the nicer facilities. You know you would take the same approach to marketing as we do now. Correct? Now be honest with yourself.

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I wouldn't want to be UL-city. I agree with that. I would probably take a different approach to pushing the name thing, but that's just me.

Facilities wise I will say the baseball field is the only thing I might want to trade with you. I don't have any envy for the campus or other athletic facilities. Not that they aren't fine, just not nicer than ours IMO.

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Originally Posted by Kent

Serious question to y'all be honest.

Lets say our rolls were reversed you had the name of the school in Lafayette, and we were Tech, you were the bigger school, with the nicer facilities. You know you would take the same approach to marketing as we do now. Correct? Now be honest with yourself.

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What a leading question. Not even going to bite on this bigger school/nicer facilities part.

But if I were ULL and looking to change my name, I would not try to break the law, nor try to deceive people into thinking I'm something that I'm not. There is no flagship of the University of Louisiana system, there is no UL in Louisiana. What you should have done, if you want a solid university name that defines who are, is change the name to the University of Acadiana or make it french l'Université de l'Acadiane if you really want to make yourself unique. The University of Acadiana Ragin Cajuns would be a great name.

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But if I were ULL and looking to change my name, I would not try to break the law, nor try to deceive people into thinking I'm something that I'm not. There is no flagship of the University of Louisiana system, there is no UL in Louisiana. What you should have done, if you want a solid university name that defines who are, is change the name to the University of Acadiana or make it french l'Université de l'Acadiane if you really want to make yourself unique. The University of Acadiana Ragin Cajuns would be a great name.

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If I cared …

I would've suggested South Louisiana.

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Serious question to y'all be honest.

Lets say our rolls were reversed you had the name of the school in Lafayette, and we were Tech, you were the bigger school, with the nicer facilities. You know you would take the same approach to marketing as we do now. Correct? Now be honest with yourself.

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You're the laughing stock of the college football playing world. Nobody would trade branding with you.

Hell, that's why ULM has decided to stop reminding you about what the law says about your name. The more distance they can put between you and them, the better.

Tech's built a program correctly, they're not trying to shortcut their way to success. They realize coopting a name doesn't get them anywhere if they can't field a good team.

Of course, that's why USL's only managed to beat Tech 21 times in 60 tries....

But, yeah, keep thinking that Tech, or anybody else for that matter, would trade places with you.

Well, maybe Mooseburger Clown College or the American Clown Academy envy your reputation as the biggest bunch of clowns on the interwebs, but it's a lead pipe cinch nobody else does.

Your only real value is that you're slightly amusing, but only for reasons you don't appreciate.

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If I cared …

I would've suggested South Louisiana.

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I think the Muddogs should embrace South Central Louisiana State University.

The DOTD put up a new sign on I-49, one indicating what schools are located off that exit. They put: Natchitoches State University. The sign was quickly taken down after an uproar. Even after DOTD admitted the mistake and apologized, for days afterwards, NSU alums had to vent their disdain for the error. Folks want their alma maters respected. Get the name right, at least!

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Not to pile on, but we heard similar things when Hudspeth came on board. You guys have definitely made some progress don't get me wrong. You have more students and you are in a bigger city. Maybe ULL is on the way up, but forgive us if we aren't quaking in our boots. I think most of us feel like we are making lots of progress as well and we have a head start in academic perception and athletics. Your opinion may vary.

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I here you I wouldn't expect you too. If I were on the outside looking in considering history, I wouldn't be concerned either.

Hud was fools goal. Yep we all kind of drank the cool aid early, but it didn't take long to realize he was all rah rah and no substance. Napier on the other hand, (I realize it is early) everything he does is very Sabanesque. It is very evident there is a lot more to him. He is a Saban disciiple and very few of them are not successful.

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I wouldn't want to be UL-city. I agree with that. I would probably take a different approach to pushing the name thing, but that's just me.

Facilities wise I will say the baseball field is the only thing I might want to trade with you. I don't have any envy for the campus or other athletic facilities. Not that they aren't fine, just not nicer than ours IMO.

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Different strokes for different folks. I cannot think of one I'd trade with you. Not sure when was the last time you've been on our campus or had a tour through our new APC.

Many coaches who have seen our 100k sq ft facility that houses the football locker room, training, equipment rooms, coaches offices, players lounge and 13k sqft weight room, say it is every bit as good and even better than most P5 facilities that they have been in. I would definitely keep that.

I would take our newly renovated Cajun Dome any day of the week. The only basket ball arena better in this state has a professional team in it. Check.

Not sure why you rather your softball, track or soccer facilities more than ours, maybe you can explain? I have passed right by yours once every 2 months, for the last 8 years. Maybe you can explain what you like better about the ones in Ruston over the ones in Lafayette? I just don't under stand why you wouldn't trade in a heartbeat? Maybe you've never seen ours since they have been reconstructed?

I would take our 39k seat football stadium everyday over yours also.

I would also take our indoor practice facility complete with a 100yd regulation size football field, and batting cages, over what ever it is y'all do when afternoon thunder storms brew up, during practice on game week

I will give you the football press box and luxury boxes as of today. Only because we haven't gotten to that part of the master plan yet. But in the drawings I saw once complete, it won't even be close. I walked on y'all field during the summer, is it just me, but IMO that press box you all put on top of the stadium, just don't go together? I don't know why it just looks awkward.

I know, first hand, from a student athlete being recruted, that toured both schools this summer, living conditions for athletes are much better in Lafayette. Tell you the truth that is what changed his mind on his commitment.

So you would only trade baseball? It is not my fault you don't want better facilities across the board. You should demand better.

Softball is important to the coon asses.

I'll take your nice baseball facility. The entrance behind home plate is an awesome view . . . and the lower level home plate seating.

However, you'd need to add coaches offices and meeting rooms.

Also, remove the awesome debt (as one RCAF board member/banker/friend shared with me.)

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I would take our 39k seat football stadium everyday over yours also.

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Now if only you could fill it when you schedule somebody other than McNeese and Southern...

Hasn't this thread degenerated to the point where it should be in the Pit? A ULLer trying to convert us all to disciples? Give me a break. I turned down USL AND the school in Baton Rouge decades ago and time has only confirmed the wisdom of the decisions. Who would want to associate with a school that as an institution promotes with its very name and "branding" not adhering to the law?

Oooo, I want to go to a school that urges me to be something I'm not and find moral justification to support the lie. A narcissistic institution that does what all narcissist do: tell the lie over and over and over in hopes of convincing everyone the lie is the truth. Self-agrandizing itself in the face of the lie.

Do what you want ULL & ULLer. Tell the lie and try to convince everyone else the lie is true. But it won't fly here and it never will. Your school is a dishonest scoff-law, led by leaders who took a bad path decades ago. Leaders who in recent years doubled down on the lie and shined a bright light on it which puts you are in the unenviable position of defending their bad, equivocated decisions. I get you like and maybe love your school. But I have to think you'd rather not have to keep defending this ridiculous name situation. It's a lie, you know it and you're going to defend it but this isn't the venue for your ridiculous arguments.

In a lot of ways you seem a good guy and I'm fine with a lot of your posts. Wouldn't mind you posting in the future. But touting your school and defending what you say your school's name is on this board is REALLY STUPID.

To the Pit!

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Different strokes for different folks. I cannot think of one I'd trade with you. Not sure when was the last time you've been on our campus or had a tour through our new APC.

Many coaches who have seen our 100k sq ft facility that houses the football locker room, training, equipment rooms, coaches offices, players lounge and 13k sqft weight room, say it is every bit as good and even better than most P5 facilities that they have been in. I would definitely keep that.

I would take our newly renovated Cajun Dome any day of the week. The only basket ball arena better in this state has a professional team in it. Check.

Not sure why you rather your softball, track or soccer facilities more than ours, maybe you can explain? I have passed right by yours once every 2 months, for the last 8 years. Maybe you can explain what you like better about the ones in Ruston over the ones in Lafayette? I just don't under stand why you wouldn't trade in a heartbeat? Maybe you've never seen ours since they have been reconstructed?

I would take our 39k seat football stadium everyday over yours also.

I would also take our indoor practice facility complete with a 100yd regulation size football field, and batting cages, over what ever it is y'all do when afternoon thunder storms brew up, during practice on game week

I will give you the football press box and luxury boxes as of today. Only because we haven't gotten to that part of the master plan yet. But in the drawings I saw once complete, it won't even be close. I walked on y'all field during the summer, is it just me, but IMO that press box you all put on top of the stadium, just don't go together? I don't know why it just looks awkward.

I know, first hand, from a student athlete being recruted, that toured both schools this summer, living conditions for athletes are much better in Lafayette. Tell you the truth that is what changed his mind on his commitment.

So you would only trade baseball? It is not my fault you don't want better facilities across the board. You should demand better.

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I absolutely want better facilities across the board, trading facilities with ULL wouldn't accomplish that for me. Like I said the baseball stadium is a significant upgrade over Techs. I have not been impressed with the Cajun dome or the football stadium. Can't say I have spent much time in either schools softball, soccer, or track facilities so if ULL has much nicer facilities I wouldn't know it and you could swap them back and forth without me ever finding out about it.
Surprised to hear the living conditions are much better in Lafayette. I wouldn't mind checking out the living arrangements at ULL if they are much better than Tech's. The apartment style dorms at Tech are fantastic. I would have lived on campus had those been available when I was in school.

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I would take our 39k seat football stadium everyday over yours also.

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Why? It aint like yall are using it?

ULL 2017 avg attendance ~ 16k
Lafayette Parish ~ 225k
ULL games / local pop ~ 7%

Tech 2017 attendance ~ 20k
Lincoln Parish ~ 47k
Tech games / local pop ~ 43%

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IMO that press box you all put on top of the stadium, just don't go together? I don't know why it just looks awkward.

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Ok yeah, I'm with you on this one. Credit where it's due.

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Softball is important to the coon asses.

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Yep. If your school was a consistent super regional and world seris competitor I am sure you'd care too. Typical Tech if we suck it don't matter.

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Yep. If your school was a consistent super regional and world seris competitor I am sure you'd care too. Typical Tech if we suck it don't matter.

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Seriously, what has softball success done for your athletic department?

NOTHING financially.

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I absolutely want better facilities across the board, trading facilities with ULL wouldn't accomplish that for me. Like I said the baseball stadium is a significant upgrade over Techs. I have not been impressed with the Cajun dome or the football stadium. Can't say I have spent much time in either schools softball, soccer, or track facilities so if ULL has much nicer facilities I wouldn't know it and you could swap them back and forth without me ever finding out about it.
Surprised to hear the living conditions are much better in Lafayette. I wouldn't mind checking out the living arrangements at ULL if they are much better than Tech's. The apartment style dorms at Tech are fantastic. I would have lived on campus had those been available when I was in school.

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The dorms at the school in Lafayette (avoiding sensorship) that my nephew saw has a private bed room, and bath and a common living room shared with one other roommate and a full kitchen. If Techs has that they should have showed him. Kid is a very finicky eater and the kitchen made a huge difference.

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Why? It aint like yall are using it?

ULL 2017 avg attendance ~ 16k
Lafayette Parish ~ 225k
ULL games / local pop ~ 7%

Tech 2017 attendance ~ 20k
Lincoln Parish ~ 47k
Tech games / local pop ~ 43%

Ok yeah, I'm with you on this one. Credit where it's due.

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I like the way you picked our worst year in the last 7 after all the support from Hud was going and it showed. We have had crowds against Florida international on a saturday in october of 31k. You couldn't draw that on your best day even if you were playing neighboring Grambling or ULM.

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Seriously, what has softball success done for your athletic department?

NOTHING financially.

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It supports itself which only a hand full of schools can say. It has drawn interest in the community to where it wasn't a drain to renovate the stadium or build the brand new hitting facilities. All were done with private funds. If they sucked no one would care. It has been in nationally televised super regionals and college world series several times. You go ahead and price a 2hr commercial for your school and tell me what it is worth.

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I like the way you picked our worst year in the last 7 after all the support from Hud was going and it showed. We have had crowds against Florida international on a saturday in october of 31k. You couldn't draw that on your best day even if you were playing neighboring Grambling or ULM.

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It was last year. Hardly an arbitrary figure. But pick a different year, or a rolling average. Either way, it scarcely moves the needle as a function of surrounding population. A single 31k game, while commendable, is still not that impressive in the context of a mid-size metro.

Gameday is Ruston is THE place to be. Gameday in Lafayette is something to do if lsu has a bye and you cant find anything on Netflix.

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Now if only you could fill it when you schedule somebody other than McNeese and Southern...

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We have had over 30k crowds with several schools that weren't SU or MSU. We had over 30k against N. Tx, Ark St, NMSU and I wont mention Tx A&M, Alabama and Tulane since those have more noted names. Funny you should ask when we will fill it up with someone other than your pokes and the jags. Your biggest crowd was in 1976 of only 27k against the cajuns. So when will you exceed that with another opponent? For you Tech guys your largest crowd ever was 28k against ULM. We have drawn more against freaking New Mexico st than you can against ULM 30 miles away. If you want a reason to schedule ULM in the future there it is $$$$. But y'all are to ignorant to see it.

Poke when were you a center for the Cowboys? (I assume football center?). I have a good family friend that was an OT back in the mid to late 80s in Lake Chuck.

Please don't come here with that parish comparison crap. Don't you guys claim S-port? Well which way is it? You ever here of Stark vegas or Manhattan Ks the little apple they are from very small cities / counties.

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It was last year. Hardly an arbitrary figure. But pick a different year, or a rolling average. Either way, it scarcely moves the needle as a function of surrounding population. A single 31k game, while commendable, is still not that impressive in the context of a mid-size metro.

Gameday is Ruston is THE place to be. Gameday in Lafayette is something to do if lsu has a bye and you cant find anything on Netflix.

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Here are some other years you could have looked at the average:
2011 - 29k
12- 22.8K
13- 25.9K
!4 - 25.7K
15 - 21.5K
16 - 20k

If we are being fair with one another, all of college sports attendance are in decline. I heard Jordy Holtberg talking with a guy from lsuambr yesterday on his show, and their attendance has been in decline over the past 7 or so years, so they are offering new package deals they haven't offered in the past.

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Here are some other years you could have looked at the average:
2011 - 29k
12- 22.8K
13- 25.9K
!4 - 25.7K
15 - 21.5K
16 - 20k

If we are being fair with one another, all of college sports attendance are in decline. I heard Jordy Holtberg talking with a guy from lsuambr yesterday on his show, and their attendance has been in decline over the past 7 or so years, so they are offering new package deals they haven't offered in the past.

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LOL, USL reported attendance numbers are always fun to look at.

What was the reported attendance last year against ULM? I only ask because here's a screenshot from the Arkansas State website of the opening kick off between ULL and ULM last year...

https://s3media.247sports.com/Upload...64/7664185.jpg

What did you guys report, 29K?

The game must have been played on Halloween, as lots of your fans are apparently dressed as empty seats....

What was the reported attendance when HUD invited all the recruits to watch us brow beat them? I know, it rained on the drive down there, so all those crazy Cajuns stayed home.

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Softball is important to the coon asses.

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Softball is the ony thing keeping them relevant in that contrived ranking system they invented called the "Pentaphlegm"...

Basically some Couyon decided that if he counted all of the softball wins in front oa the 300 or so fans who show up for those games, it could be selectively weighted in such a manner as to offset the USL football losses seen by thousands.

Then with some new common core math, a little Santeria Voo Doo and the right amount of selective reasoning, they could find a way to rank USL in such a manner that the'd be "on par" with P5 schools when it came to "fan opportunities to see a win"

Now, to buy into this polished turd, you have to throw out reason, commmon sense and accountability, but that doesn't matter. They still found a way to rank USL with the big boys. However, the most surprising thing about the whole excercise in mental masturbation is that they can actually keep a straight face when talking about it.

But, in the end, it all depends on the softball team winning to compensate for decades of USL football suckage...

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LOL, USL reported attendance numbers are always fun to look at.

What was the reported attendance last year against ULM? I only ask because here's a screenshot from the Arkansas State website of the opening kick off between ULL and ULM last year...

https://s3media.247sports.com/Upload...64/7664185.jpg

What did you guys report, 29K?

The game must have been played on Halloween, as lots of your fans are apparently dressed as empty seats....

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If you know anything about seating cajun field, you know that's the northeast side of the stadium which is where visitor tickets are sold. Maybe Monroe's equipment managers should have brought their own maroon tarps.

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Softball is the ony thing keeping them relevant in that contrived ranking system they invented called the "Pentaphlegm"...

Basically some Couyon decided that if he counted all of the softball wins in front oa the 300 or so fans who show up for those games, it could be selectively weighted in such a manner as to offset the USL football losses seen by thousands.

Then with some new common core math, a little Santeria Voo Doo and the right amount of selective reasoning, they could find a way to rank USL in such a manner that the'd be "on par" with P5 schools when it came to "fan opportunities to see a win"

Now, to buy into this polished turd, you have to throw out reason, commmon sense and accountability, but that doesn't matter. They still found a way to rank USL with the big boys. However, the most surprising thing about the whole excercise in mental masturbation is that they can actually keep a straight face when talking about it.

But, in the end, it all depends on the softball team winning to compensate for decades of USL football suckage...

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Agree with you 100% as far as the numbers being manipulated. That is done by a fan nothing to do with the university. Dude used to live right by one of my friends we get a good laugh every time it comes out.

Poke did you play with an O lineman that later became a world champion steer wrestler?

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LOL, USL reported attendance numbers are always fun to look at.

What was the reported attendance last year against ULM? I only ask because here's a screenshot from the Arkansas State website of the opening kick off between ULL and ULM last year...

https://s3media.247sports.com/Upload...64/7664185.jpg

What did you guys report, 29K?

The game must have been played on Halloween, as lots of your fans are apparently dressed as empty seats....

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Here is a better complete view of the stadium.

https://ragincajuns.com/sports/2012/...n%20Field.aspx

Now show me your crowd of 30k plus?