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If you watch the video and not just read the write up, you would know that it was an unofficial neighborhood gathering to spread support for Beto. Not a Beto sponsored event. This is similar to how Beto mania spread throughout Texas. Lots of grassroot promoters working in small circles and then Beto hitting every county. Was very effective with Beto doing far better than he should have in Texas.
If he runs, I will vote for him.
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Guisslapp
If you watch the video and not just read the write up, you would know that it was an unofficial neighborhood gathering to spread support for Beto. Not a Beto sponsored event. This is similar to how Beto mania spread throughout Texas. Lots of grassroot promoters working in small circles and then Beto hitting every county. Was very effective with Beto doing far better than he should have in Texas.
If he runs, I will vote for him.
Of course you will vote for a socialist. :icon_roll:
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Pocahontas announces her run for POTUS and at the rally denounces "all the power in Washington" and we must "return power to the American people" and of course the crowd roars its approval. Then the Indian Princess proceeds to outline her version of socialism whereby the Federal guvmint (Washington) takes over just about every aspect of our lives and that same crowd roars its approval. You can't make this stuff up.
Those morons are the reason the term "libtard" was coined. Liberal reee-tards!
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Yeppers. The lying elitist libs are quickly seeing their chance at 2020 go into the dumpster.
TAMMY BRUCE: Dems admit obscene anti-Trump claims all a sham
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Guisslapp
I am not a socialist.
You would vote for a socialist over Trump
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Beto announces a run for the WH! I have a tingly feeling running up my leg....
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dawg80
Beto announces a run for the WH! I have a tingly feeling running up my leg....
Up? Or down?
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
Beto announces a run for the WH! I have a tingly feeling running up my leg....
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
Up? Or down?
Reading comprehension getting worst...
Regardless, I want whatever Chris Mathews experienced that day.
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Of course this elitist liberal Democrat will be forgiven by it's sheep. Can you imagine if Trump had written a story about running over and killing children: plus had DUI's?
O'Rourke says sorry for joke about wife, creepy murder fiction about killing kids
2020 Democratic presidential candidate Beto O’Rourke was forced Friday to offer two apologies, one for a campaign joke about how he and his wife raise their children and another about an edgy short story about running over kids that he wrote when he was 15.
In a taping of the “Political Party Live” podcast in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, he apologized for a campaign joke he made on a number of occasions -- in which he quipped that his wife, Amy, raised their children “sometimes with my help.”
YOUNG BETO O'ROURKE WROTE 'MURDER FANTASY' ABOUT RUNNING OVER CHILDREN WAS PART OF FAMED HACKING GROUP: REPORT
While the jest picked up chuckles on the campaign trail, he apparently ruffled some feathers, with The New York Times reporting that his comments “elicited both laughter and derision” and cited tweets that criticized him for unwittingly exposing the double standard between male and female candidates.
“This is not the first time Mr. O’Rourke has been accused of appearing to revel in his advantages as a white male in an increasingly diverse Democratic Party,” the Gray Lady declared.
That criticism was quickly acknowledged by Beto.
"Not only will I not say that again, but I'll be more thoughtful going forward in the way that I talk about our marriage, and also the way in which I acknowledge the truth of the criticism that I have enjoyed white privilege," he said on the podcast.
"So yes, I think the criticism is right on. My ham-handed attempt to try to highlight the fact that Amy has the lion's share of the burden in our family -- that she actually works but is the primary parent in our family, especially when I served in Congress, especially when I was on the campaign trail -- should have also been a moment for me to acknowledge that that is far too often the case, not just in politics, but just in life in general. I hope as I have been in some instances part of the problem, I can also be part of the solution," he said in comments reported by CNN.
He also addressed a Reuters report that, as a 15-year-old, he wrote stories under the name “Psychedelic Warlord” -- including one the narrator's murder spree as part of his goal seeking "the termination of everything that was free and loving." The piece described the first kill as the murder of two children crossing the street.
It reads: “Then one day, as I was driving home from work, I noticed two children crossing the street. They were happy, happy to be free from their troubles. I knew, however, that this happiness and sense of freedom were much too overwhelming for them.
“This happiness was mine by right. I had earned it in my dreams. As I neared the young ones, I put all my weight on my right foot, keeping the accelerator pedal on the floor until I heard the crashing of the two children on the hood, and then the sharp cry of pain from one of the two. I was so fascinated for a moment, that when after I had stopped my vehicle, I just sat in a daze, sweet visions filling my head.”
O’Rourke had earlier dismissed the writings: "It was stuff that I was a part of as a teenager that I’m not proud of today, and I mean that’s the long and short of it.”
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Of course this elitist liberal Democrat will be forgiven by it's sheep. Can you imagine if Trump had written a story about running over and killing children: plus had DUI's?
O'Rourke says sorry for joke about wife, creepy murder fiction about killing kids
2020 Democratic presidential candidate Beto O’Rourke was forced Friday to offer two apologies, one for a campaign joke about how he and his wife raise their children and another about an edgy short story about running over kids that he wrote when he was 15.
In a taping of the “Political Party Live” podcast in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, he apologized for a campaign joke he made on a number of occasions -- in which he quipped that his wife, Amy, raised their children “sometimes with my help.”
YOUNG BETO O'ROURKE WROTE 'MURDER FANTASY' ABOUT RUNNING OVER CHILDREN WAS PART OF FAMED HACKING GROUP: REPORT
While the jest picked up chuckles on the campaign trail, he apparently ruffled some feathers, with The New York Times reporting that his comments “elicited both laughter and derision” and cited tweets that criticized him for unwittingly exposing the double standard between male and female candidates.
“This is not the first time Mr. O’Rourke has been accused of appearing to revel in his advantages as a white male in an increasingly diverse Democratic Party,” the Gray Lady declared.
That criticism was quickly acknowledged by Beto.
"Not only will I not say that again, but I'll be more thoughtful going forward in the way that I talk about our marriage, and also the way in which I acknowledge the truth of the criticism that I have enjoyed white privilege," he said on the podcast.
"So yes, I think the criticism is right on. My ham-handed attempt to try to highlight the fact that Amy has the lion's share of the burden in our family -- that she actually works but is the primary parent in our family, especially when I served in Congress, especially when I was on the campaign trail -- should have also been a moment for me to acknowledge that that is far too often the case, not just in politics, but just in life in general. I hope as I have been in some instances part of the problem, I can also be part of the solution," he said in comments reported by CNN.
He also addressed a Reuters report that, as a 15-year-old, he wrote stories under the name “Psychedelic Warlord” -- including one the narrator's murder spree as part of his goal seeking "the termination of everything that was free and loving." The piece described the first kill as the murder of two children crossing the street.
It reads: “Then one day, as I was driving home from work, I noticed two children crossing the street. They were happy, happy to be free from their troubles. I knew, however, that this happiness and sense of freedom were much too overwhelming for them.
“This happiness was mine by right. I had earned it in my dreams. As I neared the young ones, I put all my weight on my right foot, keeping the accelerator pedal on the floor until I heard the crashing of the two children on the hood, and then the sharp cry of pain from one of the two. I was so fascinated for a moment, that when after I had stopped my vehicle, I just sat in a daze, sweet visions filling my head.”
O’Rourke had earlier dismissed the writings: "It was stuff that I was a part of as a teenager that I’m not proud of today, and I mean that’s the long and short of it.”
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I would be shocked if Trump read anything. Writing something? No way!
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Now that Beto's tax returns show he attempted to commit tax fraud (2013 & 2014) that should mean he is effectively eliminated from the race. Of course, he is already eliminated given the polling numbers! After all, isn't that what the Dems HOPE to find in Trump's returns, some reason to impeach him?
But, no, unlike the hysterical left I don't consider what Beto did...twice...to be "tax fraud" or be a reason he couldn't/shouldn't hold the office of POTUS. There are plenty of other reasons that bozo should never be elected. Given the good ole double standard though, it's always okay for a Dem to have gaffes in tax returns, campaign financing law, conflicts of interest, etc... it's just not okay for a Repub to. Just pointing out another example of the hypocrisy of the left.
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I would think that you guys would be more concern about Pete.
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saltydawg
I would think that you guys would be more concern about Pete.
I'm not concerned about any Dem candidate. But, I only mentioned this because it was Beto, not Pete, who had the tax return issue.
Since you brought it up, I don't think Pete's campaign is going anywhere nationally. He's just the latest "flavor of the month" in a crappy-azz field of Dem morons. Crazy Bernie has a following since he started back in 2016, but after watching his townhall on FOX, I'm not concerned about him either. He is as stupidly naïve as the day is long. Next!
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At this point in the 2016 cycle, Scott Walker was the leader for the GOP.
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johnnylightnin
At this point in the 2016 cycle, Scott Walker was the leader for the GOP.
See! It always happens that way. I do think crazy Bernie and creepy Joe will be in the running, should JB choose to run, all the way to the end. The field of 20-whatever will quickly narrow after Iowa, NH, and now California. There will be maybe 5 left by the time of South Carolina.
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TYLERTECHSAS
Or the “rule of law” is still important to them.
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TYLERTECHSAS
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Guisslapp
Or the “rule of law” is still important to them.
That will never be the case as much past and recent history proves that are not
concerned about the “rule of law”. And if you need to ask the history I speak, then you are not replying in honesty or even honestly participating.
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TYLERTECHSAS
That will never be the case as much past and recent history proves that are not
concerned about the “rule of law”. And if you need to ask the history I speak, then you are not replying in honesty or even honestly participating.
If “hypocrisy” is how we are to judge these things, then Republicans really can’t talk about the “rule of law” anymore either. Apparently, they only care about it when they can cite it against the Dems.
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TWO YEARS! $35 million 2800+ witnesses interviewed in a witch hunt, etc.. no violation of the law found.
Meanwhile, we have documented proof of dems breaking "the rule of law."
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Guisslapp
If “hypocrisy” is how we are to judge these things, then Republicans really can’t talk about the “rule of law” anymore either. Apparently, they only care about it when they can cite it against the Dems.
Not true in the bigger historic picture as you are shaded by your current bias and hatred for Trump. But we do know that Trump, at least IMHO, hasn't broken any rule of law at this point. I think you will also find this out soon.
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dawg80
TWO YEARS! $35 million 2800+ witnesses interviewed in a witch hunt, etc.. no violation of the law found.
Meanwhile, we have documented proof of dems breaking "the rule of law."
Lots of people charged and convicted because of this. Evidence of violation of law (obstruction) against Trump was also provided, but the special counsel turfed the decision to “charge” to Congress. The Congressional republicans don’t do their job, that is on them.
Trump wastes at least that much of the taxpayer’s money on his personal golfing every year, btw.
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dawg80
two years! $35 million 2800+ witnesses interviewed in a witch hunt, etc.. No violation of the law found.
Meanwhile, we have documented proof of dems breaking "the rule of law."
truth!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
Lots of people charged and convicted because of this. Evidence of violation of law (obstruction) against Trump was also provided, but the special counsel turfed the decision to “charge” to Congress. The Congressional republicans don’t do their job, that is on them.
Trump wastes at least that much of the taxpayer’s money on his personal golfing every year, btw.
What evidence? Firing Comey is not evidence.
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Guisslapp
Lots of people charged and convicted because of this. Evidence of violation of law (obstruction) against Trump was also provided, but the special counsel turfed the decision to “charge” to Congress. The Congressional republicans don’t do their job, that is on them.
Trump wastes at least that much of the taxpayer’s money on his personal golfing every year, btw.
You're beginning to sound as desperate as Elijah Cummings.
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dawg80
TWO YEARS! $35 million 2800+ witnesses interviewed in a witch hunt, etc.. no violation of the law found.
Meanwhile, we have documented proof of dems breaking "the rule of law."
And they want more. Doesn't make much sense that this prolonged investigation needs more investigation. I would rather an investigation be done of the folks that support further investigation of that already investigated. Gets confusing
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Guisslapp
Lots of people charged and convicted because of this. Evidence of violation of law (obstruction) against Trump was also provided, but the special counsel turfed the decision to “charge” to Congress. The Congressional republicans don’t do their job, that is on them.
Trump wastes at least that much of the taxpayer’s money on his personal golfing every year, btw.
Not disagreeing with you on the golf thing, but Obama's extensive vacation time was not an issue. At least Trump doesn't have to pay a greens fee or cart rental when he is golfing on his own property.
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What evidence? Firing Comey is not evidence.
Read the report - there were 11 instances of obstruction given by Mueller. The most egregious was probably directing McGahn to fire Mueller. That is an “endeavor to obstruct” an investigation if there ever has been one.
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And they want more. Doesn't make much sense that this prolonged investigation needs more investigation. I would rather an investigation be done of the folks that support further investigation of that already investigated. Gets confusing
Mueller report basically provided a road map for further investigation. He teed up impeachment if Congressional republicans are willing to do their job.
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Guisslapp
Lots of people charged and convicted because of this. Evidence of violation of law (obstruction) against Trump was also provided, but the special counsel turfed the decision to “charge” to Congress. The Congressional republicans don’t do their job, that is on them.
Trump wastes at least that much of the taxpayer’s money on his personal golfing every year, btw.
You are just a total mess.:laugh:
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The democrats have nothing. They should spend their time trying to find Olga Buzova to get the picture of naked Trump for Schiff. The democrats had rather have a fake investigation than trying to solve the crisis at the border. The democrats will be killed at the polls in 2020 and they don't even see it coming.
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TYLERTECHSAS
You are just a total mess.:laugh:
Guissy needs to pace himself because the way democrats are acting now, Trump wins easily in 2020, and Republican will take back house and keep control of Senate
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The Fox News Chicks are certainly prettier than the MSNBC News Chicks
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The Fox News Chicks are certainly prettier than the MSNBC News Chicks
Yes indeed and with a much higher IQ as well.
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So apparently CNN had a town hall last night with several democratic candidates taking part. Ole Bernie is for letting all criminals vote, even the Boston Bomber. Kamala Harris is open to having a discussion on this idea. They feel that right to vote is paramount. Do they feel the same about the 2nd amendment with same commitment? Can felons start buying guns? Even when they get out?
All supported Medicare for all.. my question is does this include all of the world? They all want open borders so how would we be able to pay for all of this?
Ms Warren wants student loan forgiveness and Medicare for all.. My question is what about those people who had loans and paid them off? Can we get reimbursed for what we paid for college in today's dollars? I think reparations are in order..
Many were apparently supportive of the green new deal.. Someone threw out a number on a radio show today that the new green deal would cost every household in the US 600K over 10 years.
All of this stuff is stupid, no one except low IQ people living on both east and west coasts would believe it.
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If we are going to forgive a ton of current student debt(which no one made them do at gun point) and make public colleges “free”, then I say my mortgage and auto loans should be refunded and cancelled. After all, I voluntarily signed for those loans, just like a college student does theirs.
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Someone should ask them if we are going to pay for college educations through cafeteria funding. “Yes sir, that burger and fries will be $72.36. Oh, you want a drink? Make it an even $80.”
What if public college was free pending your graduation? If you drop out, flunk out, or go pro before your graduation day, then you owe the full cost of tuition, books, and room and board. College enrollment would probably plummet 30-40%, but the students would most likely be more suited to that route. Anyone who doesn’t enroll can go straight into the workforce and start paying taxes that pay for students who will earn a degree.
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Joe Biden opens with a lead over everybody, including Trump by 8 points. Unless he does something really, really stupid, and I guess groping women doesn't qualify as being stupid (not for a (D)), he's got the Dem nomination. He is 1st choice for 30% of Dem voters and 2nd choice for the remaining 70%. As the 20+ candidates drop out, Biden will pick up their supporters.
Then it'll be Biden vs. Trump. Biden would have won this matchup in 2016, and I said as much back then. In 2020, who knows? I tend to think Biden has the edge because of Trump's mouth/Tweets, and the lying, conniving lamestream media. Of course, no one gave Trump a chance in 2016, so until it actually happens, I won't count Trump out.
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dawg80
Joe Biden opens with a lead over everybody, including Trump by 8 points. Unless he does something really, really stupid, and I guess groping women doesn't qualify as being stupid (not for a (D)), he's got the Dem nomination. He is 1st choice for 30% of Dem voters and 2nd choice for the remaining 70%. As the 20+ candidates drop out, Biden will pick up their supporters.
Then it'll be Biden vs. Trump. Biden would have won this matchup in 2016, and I said as much back then. In 2020, who knows? I tend to think Biden has the edge because of Trump's mouth/Tweets, and the lying, conniving lamestream media. Of course, no one gave Trump a chance in 2016, so until it actually happens, I won't count Trump out.
Hard to say.. several in MSM have already started going after Joe because he's "old white guy". Many of the "new democrats" are Bernie supporters because they are young and want socialism.. (see AOC). AOC even said Joe doesn't do anything for her. I think it will be very interesting to watch, because they all have the same "Orange man Bad" mantra, so when it comes to policies, they are trying to out left and socialize each other to stand out.
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As was pointed out we'll know something fairly quick. Biden will probably win Iowa and Sanders will win New Hampshire. Nevada and South Carolina follow, those 4 in February. Then Super Tuesday is March 3rd with 12 primaries including California and Texas. And then little ole Louisiana is alone on March 7. Followed by 11 more primaries before the end of March, including Michigan, Illinois, and Florida. That's 28 primaries before March 31, 2020.
Most of the 20+ candidates will be long gone by March 31. What's left will be a handful, with a clear front-runner firmly in place. If Biden is leading at that point, he's got it.
One note on California, which of course is the BIGGIE for Dems. I understand early voting will start in Cal on Feb 3, the day of the Iowa Caucus. That means Dems will have to be campaigning in Cal before Feb 3. In the past candidates, both parties, concentrated on Iowa. Can't afford to ignore Cal or wait until after NH to start campaigning in Cal. If you do, you might have already lost Cal and thus the nomination.
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Well ole Beto is done.. he was a flash in the pan.. MSM has moved onto other candidates.
Beto only draws 35 people at rally in Las Vegas.. Sorry Guissy.
https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/26/b...ign-las-vegas/
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Its okay, I prefer Biden to Beto.
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Its okay, I prefer Biden to Beto.
Biden? Doesn't sound like someone a "libertarian" would support.
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dawg80
Biden? Doesn't sound like someone a "libertarian" would support.
How many self-described conservatives were supporting Trump at this point last cycle?
Approaching zero.
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johnnylightnin
How many self-described conservatives were supporting Trump at this point last cycle?
Approaching zero.
I look at it differently.. When there were 500 republican candidates in the primary in 2016, I did not support Trump until he was the nominee. That said, Trump has accomplished way more conservative items than any republican POTUS since Reagan. And I supported both Bushes.
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dawg80
Biden? Doesn't sound like someone a "libertarian" would support.
I am a pragmatist with a libertarian heart. Trump is an authoritarian nutcase.
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Guisslapp
I am a pragmatist with a libertarian heart. Trump is an authoritarian nutcase.
You're no libertarian. Neither am I, but then I don't pretend to be.
Actually, I lean libertarian on some issues. If that means government "hands off," then yes. But I also support the government doing what the Constitution requires, and within parameters doing a little more, as long as that supports my conservative views. To be a true libertarian is to support isolationism, and I can't go there. I don't like us being the world's police, per se, just when it is consistent with our national interests.
But, I will never, ever support a Dem, the party of socialism and death. Obviously, you're okay with both of those.
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Trump is an authoritarian.
Moreso than any other president? Much less than Obama as he has eased and erased much of his authoritarian legacy. 6 more years should get it all out of here.
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obummer infamously said, "I have a phone and a pen, I don't need..." [Congress]. Sounds pretty authoritarian to me.
The other 2016 option was Krooked Killary who has the rep of treating staff rudely and cruelly. Another form of authoritarianism.
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dawg80
obummer infamously said, "I have a phone and a pen, I don't need..." [Congress]. Sounds pretty authoritarian to me.
The other 2016 option was Krooked Killary who has the rep of treating staff rudely and cruelly. Another form of authoritarianism.
Wow. Cause Trump treats his staff nicely. Lol.
For every comment you have that Obama said (note the phone is a reference to going directly to the American people), you have 100 statements by Trump attacking the judicial branch, ignoring Congress’s authority, attacking the press, etc.). Trump is at least 2 magnitudes more authoritarian than Obama or Hillary. It isn’t even close. Not by a million miles.
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Guisslapp
Wow. Cause Trump treats his staff nicely. Lol.
For every comment you have that Obama said (note the phone is a reference to going directly to the American people), you have 100 statements by Trump attacking the judicial branch, ignoring Congress’s authority, attacking the press, etc.). Trump is at least 2 magnitudes more authoritarian than Obama or Hillary. It isn’t even close. Not by a million miles.
Just think. You've got six more years to live with President Donald J. Trump as he keeps on winning no matter what you leftists think, say, or do. He'll completely destroy the deep state before he's finished.
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brtransplant
Just think. You've got six more years to live with President Donald J. Trump as he keeps on winning no matter what you leftists think, say, or do. He'll completely destroy the deep state before he's finished.
Let's all pray this is so with God's guidance!
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Guisslapp
Wow. Cause Trump treats his staff nicely. Lol.
For every comment you have that Obama said (note the phone is a reference to going directly to the American people), you have 100 statements by Trump attacking the judicial branch, ignoring Congress’s authority, attacking the press, etc.). Trump is at least 2 magnitudes more authoritarian than Obama or Hillary. It isn’t even close. Not by a million miles.
Oh, obummer was planning to call every American by phone? What, in all 57 states!? Sorry, I have scumbag blocker on, his call would have never gotten through.
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dawg80
Oh, obummer was planning to call every American by phone? What, in all 57 states!? Sorry, I have scumbag blocker on, his call would have never gotten through.
"I've got a pen to take executive actions where Congress won't, and I've got a telephone to rally folks around the country on this mission."
Btw, Obama has 44 executive orders in 8 years. Trump already has 45 in 3.
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Originally Posted by
brtransplant
Just think. You've got six more years to live with President Donald J. Trump as he keeps on winning no matter what you leftists think, say, or do. He'll completely destroy the deep state before he's finished.
You mean President Biden.
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Guisslapp
You mean President Biden.
We already know of two foreign scandals involving Biden, so, no way can you possibly support him...by your own criteria. As of now, Trump has not been involved in any such nonsense, Biden...at least twice, and probably more will be uncovered. Sorry, you don't want to be labeled as a hypocrite, choose someone else.
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I'm not a democrat or a Trump fan (both facts well documented here). Biden is a mistake for the DNC. The Bernie Bros won't back him...not sure Warren's followers will either. Sure, Biden has a better shot at Obama voters than the two previously mentioned (or Mayor Pete or Beto), but I don't know that what is gained will outweigh what is lost. Biden is the DNC establishment pick and that bit the DNC last go round.
Their only hope is to pair one of the young guys (as VP) with Harris or Booker.
My qualms with Trump have been discussed ad nauseam, but the DNC is a train wreck right now. No leadership outside of Pelosi (who has been effective) and no unifying charge. They're letting the left-most wing of the party continue this impeachment mantra (which the public does not support) when they should be trying to get behind healthcare or something else the country agrees with them on.
Shaping up for another circus freakshow come 2020. Damning for the country? Probably. Good entertainment? Definitely. As they say, you get the government you most deserve.
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The country does NOT agree with the Dems on healthcare.
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johnnylightnin
I'm not a democrat or a Trump fan (both facts well documented here). Biden is a mistake for the DNC. The Bernie Bros won't back him...not sure Warren's followers will either. Sure, Biden has a better shot at Obama voters than the two previously mentioned (or Mayor Pete or Beto), but I don't know that what is gained will outweigh what is lost. Biden is the DNC establishment pick and that bit the DNC last go round.
Their only hope is to pair one of the young guys (as VP) with Harris or Booker.
My qualms with Trump have been discussed ad nauseam, but the DNC is a train wreck right now. No leadership outside of Pelosi (who has been effective) and no unifying charge. They're letting the left-most wing of the party continue this impeachment mantra (which the public does not support) when they should be trying to get behind healthcare or something else the country agrees with them on.
Shaping up for another circus freakshow come 2020. Damning for the country? Probably. Good entertainment? Definitely. As they say, you get the government you most deserve.
Good post. The Dems have become a pure Socialist Party which is also amoral, intolerant haters, anti-semitic and anti-God in general and for this they should and will lose by a large margin IMHO.
Case-in-point (one might want to visit the "end days" prophet thread as well).
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5juIEbW...g&name=900x900
MAG DOES MAYOR...
The first 'first gentleman'?
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dawg80
The country does NOT agree with the Dems on healthcare.
They agree with them on covering pre-existing conditions.
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johnnylightnin
They agree with them on covering pre-existing conditions.
Republicans (not conservatives) want pre-x covered. Only people who understand how insurance works don't want pre-x covered.
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PawDawg
Republicans (not conservatives) want pre-x covered. Only people who understand how insurance works don't want pre-x covered.
65+% of Americans want pre-existing coverage...including Donald Trump.
Democracy can be problematic I suppose.
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I think the moral argument is going to be a VERY difficult one for the GOP to make...in fact, in embracing Trump, the GOP has ceded that ground.
Franklin Graham and the High Cost of the Lost Evangelical Witness
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johnnylightnin
65+% of Americans want pre-existing coverage...including Donald Trump.
Democracy can be problematic I suppose.
I'm not sure where those stats come from, but I don't suppose it is too far fetched that 65% of Americans either want more free stuff or they don't understand the law of large numbers.
I wonder how those 65% would feel about people not carrying homeowners insurance, but expecting to get paid after a fire or tornado destroyed their home.
Edit: Trump wants it because his handlers told him to want it, not because it is good business.
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PawDawg
I'm not sure where those stats come from, but I don't suppose it is too far fetched that 65% of Americans either want more free stuff or they don't understand the law of large numbers.
I wonder how those 65% woudl feel about people not carrying homeowners insurance, but expecting to get paid after a fire or tornado destroyed their home.
Like I said, Democracy can be problematic...particularly when the powerbrokers would rather propagandize than educate and put forth a coherent philosophy. It's not like the GOP hasn't had PLENTY of time to put forth a satisfying solution...they'd rather get reelected. I wonder why our borderline genius in chief supports it. Does he understand the law of large numbers? That's a word (or a series of words) and, as we all know, he has the best words.
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johnnylightnin
They never had the high ground. Nothing lost!
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johnnylightnin
Agreed! The GOP has given up much ground. But pro-life, pro-Israel, pro-republic and capitalism, pro-economic growth via less taxes, anti-class warfare, protect our borders, pro-military, and being pro-America and "America first" they haven't given ground on.
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johnnylightnin
Like I said, Democracy can be problematic...particularly when the powerbrokers would rather propagandize than educate and put forth a coherent philosophy. It's not like the GOP hasn't had PLENTY of time to put forth a satisfying solution...they'd rather get reelected. I wonder why our borderline genius in chief supports it. Does he understand the law of large numbers? That's a word (or a series of words) and, as we all know, he has the best words.
Trump did not make Business decision when he endorsed it. He made A political decision. Is there any politician in Washington who did not endorse it?
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PawDawg
Republicans (not conservatives) want pre-x covered. Only people who understand how insurance works don't want pre-x covered.
Makes perfect sense if you support Medicare for all.
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PawDawg
Trump did not make Business decision when he endorsed it. He made A political decision. Is there any politician in Washington who did not endorse it?
I think you're proving my point.
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johnnylightnin
I think you're proving my point.
Not trying to, just saying there is nothing surprising about Trump supporting it. Two top sales points of Obamacare were no pre-x and coverage to age 26. Both drove prices up. Both tugged on emotions, which means anybody seeking votes would be for it.
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Not trying to, just saying there is nothing surprising about Trump supporting it. Two top sales points of Obamacare were no pre-x and coverage to age 26. Both drove prices up. Both tugged on emotions, which means anybody seeking votes would be for it.
We've got the government we deserve.
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Democracy can be very problematic. But fortunately, we live in a republic. And unfortunately, some, called "liberals," don't like this being a republic and try to subvert it.
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We've got the government we deserve.
I'll take the what we've had the past two years over what we had the previous 30.
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Biden will never make it by doing this guys. Obama pretty much denied the media and almost all but ignored open formats after becoming President.
REPORTER: Biden Campaign Physically Blocking Press...
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Great job report for April!!!
263,000 jobs created, unemployment down to 3.6%, wages increased 3.2% GDP growth was 3.2% for the 1st quarter 2019.
Most pundits say people vote their pocketbooks...
Biden wants to turn us back to the failed policies of his and obummer's era, the WORST 8-year run for any administration in US history!!!
We'll see....
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dawg80
Great job report for April!!!
263,000 jobs created, unemployment down to 3.6%, wages increased 3.2% GDP growth was 3.2% for the 1st quarter 2019.
Most pundits say people vote their pocketbooks...
Biden wants to turn us back to the failed policies of his and obummer's era, the WORST 8-year run for any administration in US history!!!
We'll see....
Many of the progressives are enraged about the good economic numbers. They are still saying it is because of Obama that the country has done so well. They are so delusional with TDS that they cannot admit that this is Trump's economy. Many progressives were counter protesting the Venezuela protests outside the embassy in DC. They said that Venezuela had a better democracy than the US. These people are truly mental..
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Biden has taken a HUGE early lead. But, as was pointed out by a pundit, Krooked Killary enjoyed a similar lead in the demo race at this point in 2007. And she did not get the nomination.
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dawg80
Biden has taken a HUGE early lead. But, as was pointed out by a pundit, Krooked Killary enjoyed a similar lead in the demo race at this point in 2007. And she did not get the nomination.
Right now, they are all united against Trump. The problem is that they don't really differentiate themselves from one another. All 220 can't be the nominee. They will have to turn on each other soon to differentiate themselves.
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Spartacus and Swalwell should be out of the running after this:
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Booker’s statement was in response to a question asked by CNN's Poppy Harlow about his gun control proposals. “Senator Booker, before you go, one final question on your gun proposal since you just released it this morning: Your competitor in the 2020 race, Congressman Eric Swalwell has also, like you, proposed an assault weapons ban,” Harlow said.
“He's proposing a buyback program where Americans who currently have those guns could sell them essentially to the government, but if they don't, within a certain period of time, they would be prosecuted ... thrown in jail, perhaps. Are you supportive of the same?
”Booker, 50, responded affirmatively that the law would be enforced with criminal sanctions after a “reasonable period." He had said earlier: "The critical thing is, I think most Americans agree, that these weapons of war should not be on our streets."
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...-up-their-guns
Thank goodness we have the Constitution and the Supreme Court.
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Spartacus and Swalwell should be out of the running after this:
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Booker’s statement was in response to a question asked by CNN's Poppy Harlow about his gun control proposals. “Senator Booker, before you go, one final question on your gun proposal since you just released it this morning: Your competitor in the 2020 race, Congressman Eric Swalwell has also, like you, proposed an assault weapons ban,” Harlow said.
“He's proposing a buyback program where Americans who currently have those guns could sell them essentially to the government, but if they don't, within a certain period of time, they would be prosecuted ... thrown in jail, perhaps. Are you supportive of the same?
”Booker, 50, responded affirmatively that the law would be enforced with criminal sanctions after a “reasonable period." He had said earlier: "The critical thing is, I think most Americans agree, that these weapons of war should not be on our streets."
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...-up-their-guns
Thank goodness we have the Constitution and the Supreme Court.
Which the liberal and socialist Democrats are trying to either change, add to or totally get rid of.
They hate and are intolerant of both.
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Which the liberal and socialist Democrats are trying to either change, add to or totally get rid of.
They hate and are intolerant of both.
Actually, it is Trump that is trying to impinge on Congress’s constitutional power to conduct oversight.
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Actually, it is Trump that is trying to impinge on Congress’s constitutional power to conduct oversight.
The oversight has been conducted. There's a 400 page report that took 22 months to complete and cost $40,000,000 that everybody can read and there is no collusion and no obstruction.
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DONW
The oversight has been conducted. There's a 400 page report that took 22 months to complete and cost $40,000,000 that everybody can read and there is no collusion and no obstruction.
The DOJ can’t do oversight of the executive branch because it is the executive branch.
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Guisslapp
The DOJ can’t do oversight of the executive branch because it is the executive branch.
The Mueller report is proof positive that the entire investigation was nothing more than a witch hunt. If Mueller could have indicted President Trump, he would have. He's got nothing, just like you.
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brtransplant
The Mueller report is proof that the entire investigation was a witch hunt.
You still haven’t read it, so your ignorance is understandable.
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Guisslapp
You still haven’t read it, so your ignorance is understandable.
Please point to the page and section that tells us what Trump did that was a crime and worthy of being prosecuted. What page did Mueller say Trump colluded with the Russians, and the evidence that supported it? this way we don't have to read all 400+ pages of it.
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Please point to the page and section that tells us what Trump did that was a crime and worthy of being prosecuted. What page did Mueller say Trump colluded with the Russians, and the evidence that supported it? this way we don't have to read all 400+ pages of it.
Why don’t you just read it and educate yourself?
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By the way, Mueller didn’t investigate “collusion”, he was investigating possible coordination between the campaign and the Russians, particularly any actual crimes committed in the context of that coordination. He was also investigating obstruction of justice, which you chose to ignore for some reason.
Some interesting quotes from the report:
"The evidence supports the inference that the President intended (former campaign Chairman Paul) Manafort to believe that he could receive a pardon, which would make cooperation with the government as a means of obtaining a lesser sentence unnecessary."
“The President's efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests."
“[T]he investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts..."
"Michael Flynn -- who would later serve as national security adviser in the Trump Administration -- recalled that Trump made the request repeatedly, and Flynn subsequently contacted multiple people in an effort to obtain the emails,"
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Guisslapp
By the way, Mueller didn’t investigate “collusion”, he was investigating possible coordination between the campaign and the Russians, particularly any actual crimes committed in the context of that coordination. He was also investigating obstruction of justice, which you chose to ignore for some reason.
Some interesting quotes from the report:
"The evidence supports the inference that the President intended (former campaign Chairman Paul) Manafort to believe that he could receive a pardon, which would make cooperation with the government as a means of obtaining a lesser sentence unnecessary."
“The President's efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests."
“[T]he investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts..."
"Michael Flynn -- who would later serve as national security adviser in the Trump Administration -- recalled that Trump made the request repeatedly, and Flynn subsequently contacted multiple people in an effort to obtain the emails,"
No collusion and no obstruction in an investigation that took almost 2 years and cost $40,000,000. Get over your obsession with our President. Nobody gives a shit what you and your lying democrats think.
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DONW
No collusion and no obstruction in an investigation that took almost 2 years and cost $40,000,000. Get over your obsession with our President. Nobody gives a shit what you and your lying democrats think.
You wouldn’t know since you haven’t read the report.
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Well, gee, I hope this report is at least as accurate and truthful as the fake dossier that started the great hoax! :laugh: