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Saints open as a 3.5 point favorite
Take the opening kick, get 7. Get a 3 and out and get 7 more. Goff can’t beat us if he can’t afford to burn clock with running plays.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden
Saints had to battle the zebras too. It's always that way. Saints went for 117 yards on that 3rd qtr drive. Davenport got tagged for roughing the QB when his hand barely grazed Foles' facemask, yet TWICE! Brees got clocked in the facemask, much worse, and no calls against the Eagles. I've always said, if the Saints got consistent fair treatment from the refs, we'd win 13+ games every year, and go to a lot of Super Bowls. If we got preferential treatment, like a couple of franchises seem to, we would win a lot of Super Bowls. As it is, the Saints have to be special, and a little lucky, to overcome the refs.
Brees is looking like a 40-yr-old QB. Has never had a strong arm, but he can't throw deep anymore. Five years ago the plays to Ginn and Hill would have been walk-in easy TDs. He's still very good as the medium-range throws though. Was surprised the Eagles didn't use a strong inside pass rush and force Brees out of the pocket. Teams are just asking to get smoked when they allow Brees to step up in the pocket. (yeah, the Eagles did have a good inside push some plays, but not consistently)
The defense did step up and win the day...after that dismal 1st Qtr. The results of a 3-week layoff, Saints were horrid early on. Kudos to the Eagles, they played like champions. The scuttlebutt after the game is Foles is gone, will be resigned just so Philly can trade him. Dumb. Hmmm...wonder if Payton/Loomis will try to get him?
If Rankins is out for the Rams game, that'll hurt big time. He's our best inside run stopper. Gonna be a tough, hard-fought, very close war! next Sunday.
Geaux Saints!
Rankins is done for 8-10 months.
Andrus Peat just about killed us.
Ugh!
As for Peat, well, he's a little slow with his feet and has to reach sometimes when he gets beat. But! at least one of his so-called holding penalties was bogus, as was Unger's.
Got back late from the game. It was incredibly loud and intimidating! The Dome and Saints fans are worth an easily 3 - 5 points or more by themselves in a playoff game IMHO.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Rankins being injured is a huge blow for the defense as he became a sack machine and run stuffer this year for us from his DT position.
That said, we can take beat the Rams with a quick start on offense next week and our D is better vs. theirs.
Photo on Facebook making the rounds of post game prayer, players from both teams kneeling/praying together. Front and center in that photo...#49 of the Eagles, our very own Boston Scott.
Love the NFL or hate it - the one thing you have to admit is that they have the best play-off sit up there is
Perfect number
Perfect framework
Perfect timing
All with a very meaningful regular season with divisional play (I know some would rather have top 6 regardless of division)
Over and done with championship in basically one month
https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.9...wQHaJF&pid=ApiQuote:
Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden
Agreed. I know there is talk of going to 8 for FBS, but 12 might be the magic number. Give out 4 byes to reward strength of schedule and keep the P5s happy. Take the top 8 conference champs and award 4 at large selections. First two rounds at home of higher seeds, and semifinal and final at a bowl site.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden
So very true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden
And at least in the games I've seen, all of the players and staff of both teams are standing during the National Anthem.
That's the interesting thing about the Chief's defense. They give up 27 points on the road but just 17 at home.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Because the Saints won the game the missed calls and the phantom calls were pushed to the backburner. But head referee Carl Cheffers really had a bad night. Two of the holding calls on the Saints - one on Andrus Peat where Fletcher Cox bull rushed him to the ground and then fell on top of him- and the other on Max Unger, where the d lineman fell to the ground while being blocked - were both phantom calls. The other was the hand to Brees' face on that last drive of the first half. A correct call would have set the Saints up for a possible TD just before the half. They settled for 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
There is speculation floating around that maybe Cheffers was "compensating" after this article was published. It correctly pointed out that the Saints are 11-1 when Cheffers calls a game.
https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2019...elphia-eagles/
Found this about Rams fans petitioning to remove the ref assign to the NFC Championship game: https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2019...m-saints-rams/Quote:
Originally Posted by The Historian
I hope the refs do a great job...and may the best team win. But, if the refs have an influence on the outcome, I hope that favors the Saints. What I expect is the Saints to get screwed again. It's not just the calls made, it's also the calls not made that cause the refs to influence an outcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by atobulldog
I know this, we fans can get all upset and rant & rave before, during and after the game about the refs, but the players can't let that bother them. You see games when the players start worrying about the refs, arguing every call, and lose focus on their jobs. That gets you beat.
And this petition can cause the refs to over-compensate just so they prove the Rams' fans wrong. Seen that happen before too.
Going with the home teams...
Chiefs 30 Pats 24
Saints 31 Rams 28
NE is 6-1 at home in AFC Championship games and 2-3 on the road. Under Bilicheck/Brady they are 21-3 at home in the playoffs. Not so good on the road. Chiefs get it done.
31-28 is the score the Saints beat the Rams to get our first ever playoff win. They were the St. Louis Rams at that time, but still...
The key is the Saints rush defense vs. the Rams running attack. The Dallas D couldn't stop the Rams running the ball, so I don't know how well the Saints' D will do. But! to win the game, the Saints' D has to find a way to slow down Gurley & Company. Not having Rankins sucks. If the Rams have their way running the ball, well then...it's not gonna be a happy day for the Who Dat Nation.
Yeah, there are other factors. Brees and the O need to shake out of this 2-month funk they have been mired in. Scoring 19 pts...which is what the O has averaged the last 8 games...won't win this game.
It’s game day! Even with Rankins, Kirkwood, and Watson out, the line is still Saints -3. All the Rams are healthy. Let’s see how it plays out, but I’m optimistic. Saints are also still the favorite to win the Super Bowl.
If this game was being played in L.A., Rams would win, and probably fairly comfortably, like 10-14 pts. If this game was being played on a neutral site, a true neutral site, Rams would have the edge in a close one. Probably a last possession type of game, one score. But, with the Dome Field Advantage, I'm taking the Saints by 3.
Saints 34 Rams 27
Pats 31 Chiefs 24
I would like to see a Chiefs vs Saints Super Bowl, but I will go with the underdog Pats unitil someone beats them or they run into the Saints.
See you at 2:05!
WHO DAT!!
Saints up 3-0, after dropped TD pass.
Big stop for the Rams. Saints 6-0, on two FG's. A dropped TD and short-field FG. Two big stops when Rams D needed it gives me concern.
Saints force a nice 3 and out! Let's go Saints!
TD Saints. 13-0 Saints!
Rams kich FG, after fake punt. 13-3 Saints!
After the Rams closed the score to 13-10 before the half, the Saints go Brees to T. Hill for the TD.
Watching the Saints being creative on offense is a BLAST!
Biggest no call in NFL history. Wow! No Rams fan can ever talk about the refs again!
Rigged!
Maybe the worst no call of all time. Saints in the Super Bowl if call is made.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
Left a ton of points on the field. Still, they 1 call screwed us for sure.
True.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
Brees got outplayed by Goff. He made some more WTF throws this week. I thought he really declined the last part of the season.
Saints could not get pressure on Goff.
But, the game is over and the Saints are going to the SB if the correct call is made.
They kept pressure on him. He overcame, but when a QB knows that holding WILL NOT be called he has free reign. Goff played a great game.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
Yes, because ONLY the Aints get bad calls......:icon_roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1khK6is-Bfs
That was ridiculously bad, but Dez didn’t get completely run over on his route by the DB.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
No.....the refs just decided they weren't going to let him have the catch that he rightfully made. And scoring from there would have likely sent the Cowboys to the Super Bowl.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
Someone in a previous post stated that the game today seemed to have been "fixed". I wouldn't doubt that at all. Surely the NFL benefits from having the Rams play in a Super Bowl, so soon after relocating the franchise back to Los Angeles after a 22-yr absence.
Gotcha. Might just be my bias, but why not work it out for Brees and Brady to play each other. Winner cruises into retirement and loser comes back for another try.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
I hate the Cowboys but agree that should’ve been a catch. But if you remember, the Cowboys wouldn’t even have been playing had the refs not bailed them out the week before against the Lions.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
The cornerback just said that he expected that to be a penalty - he was just trying to save the touchdown and would rather have the flag and a chance to stop them.
That dropped TD in the first quarter hurt. That cost us 4 points.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
You could tell by the way he reacted after the play that was true. They were beat on the play and he was just trying to stop a total disaster. Then he got lucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Dawg
Worst call...or non-call...in football history. The Rams DB admitted he took out Lewis to deny a sure TD. But had the call been made...unless Lutz would have missed the chippy FG...Saints win. Okay, so everyone agrees Saints got screwed on that play. But! the lousy O continued. Brees was very average.
Even with the horrible call, Saints led 23-20 with 1:40 left in the game. And the D couldn't get it done. Okay...then we go into OT and win the toss! Okay, here we go. But Brees threw an INT. Yep, horrible call, true. But....
Meantime, all Bilicheck and Brady do is win again. No excuses. And looky there, game goes into OT, Pats win the toss and go down and score a TD.
Just saying....
Listening to Clay Travis on the drive in this morning they were talking about was the need for a penalty challenge flag. Or a rule like the NBA has for reviewing calls in the last 2 minutes of a game to be sure all calls are accurate. He also discussed that Goodell has a rule available where he could have the teams replay the end of the game...which of course the Saints would win. (That ain't happening!) For sure, something needs to be done because the Saints should be in the Super Bowl. And the Rams shouldn't.
My own personal protest, but I'm not watching the Super Bowl this year. Yeah it's small and won't mean anything, but screw 'em anyway.
The irony of that Rams' DB deliberately committing the foul was he thought he was doing his team a favor. I know, in the heat of the moment, it's tough to think everything through. But, had the penalty been called the Saints would have run the clock down to 4 seconds, used a timeout, and Lutz would have had a chippy FG to win it. BUT! if the Rams' DB allows Lewis to make the catch and walk in for the TD, yeah the Rams would have trailed 27-20, but there would have been 1:50 left, plenty of time for the Rams to tie it up again.
As it turned out, the Rams' DB's mental blunder worked out for the Rams, because the refs bailed him out with the no-call.
I will watch the Super Bowl and I will root for the Pats. Which, I would have rooted for the Pats even if the Rams had won the game fairly. People like to hate the Pats, because they have committed the ultimate "foh pah," they win TOO MUCH! Americans love a winner...just don't do it too much. Then it's not fair.
That's a small part of it. The bigger part of Patriots hatred is the fact they cheated to begin the dynasty. They went years of filming opponents walk throughs before being caught. It gave them advantages that led to a culture of winning that could sustain itself with the help of perhaps the greatest coach in NFL history.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
With LA and NE playing in Atlanta, they might as well go ahead and have the Democratic national convention at the same time.
It really comes down to injuries. Four of the 5 starting Saints O lineman were playing injured. It started with Bushrod's pec injury and got to the point where Andrus Peat had to play with a broken hand. Jermon Bushrod went to the Pro Bowl a few years ago as a guard for the Dolphins, and he would be Peat's backup. But his hamstring probably wouldn't hold up an entire game. He was injured while filling in for Bushrod a month ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
You saw the difference those injuries made in the rematches against the Eagles and Rams. A few months ago the Saints O line went from fairly easily handling d lineman like Fletcher Cox, Tim Jernigan, Aaron Donald, and Ndamukong Suh to at times being dominated by those same players in the playoffs.
Throw in injuries in the past week that sidelined the No. 3 receiver in Kirkwood along with starting TE Ben Watson, who was battling appendicitis, Josh Hill, the backup TE, who was concussed in the first quarter and Sheldon Rankins, who went out against the Eagles. Rankins being out left a big void in the middle of the Saints defense, as he's easily the Saints best interior pass rusher. The Saints were just not able to get a push up the middle on pass plays without him.
And why was Dan Arnold even on the field to drop the touchdown pass from Brees in the first quarter? Because backup TE Michael Hoomanawanui suffered a concussion in training camp and has had to miss the season. Arnold is the 4th string TE and would be on the practice squad if it wasn't for the injuries.
I'd even throw in Dez Bryant. He had a phenomenal workout with the Saints before being signed and then never made it past his second practice before his achilles injury. He would have made a huge difference. Bryant was signed after Cameron Meredith was placed on IR having never gotten past the injury he suffered in Chicago in the 2017 season.
It's is somewhat surprising to me the Saints actually got to the point where they were a blown call away from the Superbowl.
Similarly to the NFC game, how about KC blowing it by an offsides penalty with about 2 minutes to go? It nullified the interception that would have sealed the game. That dude has a lot of "splainin' " to do about lining up offsides! KC could have easily run out the clock in regulation, and there would have been no OT.
Exactly!! The media and Roger Goodall got what it wantedQuote:
Originally Posted by glm47
Of course! just bad luck for the Saints, why, every other team, all 31 others, stayed 100% healthy all year! Only the Saints had injury issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Historian
LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Historian
Saints had 117 seniors last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Worst no call in the history of sports. Hopefully changes are made where no franchise or their fans ever have to go through such travesty again. You are a man of great integrity I hope many, including myself, join you!Quote:
Originally Posted by tenacious_dog
You had mentioned earlier the Saints offense has slowed down the last couple of months. Which no doubt has happened, the numbers and points per game do not lie. Historian is explaining to you, why he feels that has happened. Giving you specific examples how those injuries have hurt the Saints offensive performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
It certainly hits some teams harder than others. It really is amazing we made it as far as we did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bulldog Tom
I actually didn't watch much of the NFL last year except Saints games in the playoffs. Started following more closely this year when the Saints got on a roll, but I will be perfectly happy not watching the Superbowl, and I probably won't start watching games next year unless the Saints get on a roll that looks like it could be something.
That's a stretch. :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Historian
The Colts started the same 5 guys all 18 games they played this year. They were the only one. The other 31 teams all had injuries and had to shuffle their OLs during the season. Last year no NFL team went injury-free on the OL. I couldn't find any stats, numbers, going back further, but did find a comment from an NFL OL coach who said in his 10-year career he had never started the same 5 guys for all 16 games (regular season) and didn't know any who ever had. That comment was from 2017. So, the 2018 Colts' OL coach can now say he has.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bulldog Tom
The loss of Ted Ginn hurt the Saints, but they had delivered several awe-inspiring offensive performances without him, namely the demolitions of Cincy and Philly during the season.
The Saints' O was humming for the first half of the regular season, then came that game on T'giving night vs. the Dirty Birds. Saints won 31-17, thanks largely to 4 Atlanta TOs. I posted on this very forum the O had stunk it up, despite the win. Everyone else brushed it off. The next week was the Dallas game....
You think I like being right about problems with my favorite teams? Just like I have never been on the J'Mar Smith bandwagon like everyone else around here. Well, the truth is Brees is not the Brees of the past. Yeah, he has turned 40 now. True Tom Brady is 40+ but Brady is a much more imposing physical specimen than the barely 6'0" tall Brees. More to the point, opposing DCs have figured out the Payton/Brees offensive schemes. And Brees is incapable of adapting because of his physical limitations. He is strictly a pocket-passer....a brilliant, certain Hall of Famer, pocket-passer. Collapse the pocket in his face, and Brees is rendered impotent. His arm has lost a lot of its strength. He can't throw the long ball like he used to...see the recent Philly game...and his passes float more now. No zip.
This is the harsh reality.
BTW, although nothing will come of it, I was one of well over 500,000 people to sign the petition asking the NFL to invoke its own rule about replaying a game when the refs grossly messed it up. Gotta love Who Dat Nation! Over a half-million signatures in little over 24 hours since the petition started.
Mrs TD and I are thinking about having a Saints 2009 Super Bowl Party on the day of the Super Bowl. Do the whole watch party deal but watch a replay of the Saints winning in 2009. "Irregardless" ;), I won't watch the Patriots & Lambs!
I think the NFL has officially stated there will be no replay of the NFC Championship game. But that petition is actually a bunch of 'em. One of the petitions has surpassed the 500K mark, but there are at least 6 others....and probably more...I've been sent three others to sign, but you can't unless you use a different address (yes, I tried), it uses the IP address and says "You have signed this petition already." One could go to a different computer and use a different email address, and "sign again," and maybe a few folks have. Anyway, one of the others I tried to also sign has topped 100K and the other was approaching 75K.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Now the tactic is for Who Dat Nation to boycott watching the SB, to send another message to Goodall. Won't matter, you say. Can't even be measured, you say. Well, according to an article I just read the New Orleans market enjoys the HIGHEST ratings of any NFL market....much higher than Los Angeles, and they have two franchises there. Of course, that's when the Saints are playing. The article doesn't mention the ratings for NFL games without the Saints. The Saints did set two new all-time ratings' records this season, the games vs. Atlanta on T-giving night, and the Dallas game the following week. The first Carolina game also set a ratings record for that time slot on FOX Network.
My plan it to watch the SB....root for the Pats...but if Nielsen Ratings calls me, or emails as they now do, and asks, I will say I did not watch that SB with the cheating teams! Have my cake...and eat it too.
Link to petition please.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
https://www.change.org/p/we-want-nfc...fs-missed-callQuote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Great idea! I may do the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by tenacious_dog
You were commenting about the Saints woes on offense, and I posted the reasons why I feel as if they were slowed down. The national media and the local media in New Orleans generally share that opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Every team has injuries. But teams that are this banged up generally don't make the Super Bowl or in the Saints case were a blown call away from the Super Bowl. One of the things that's come out of New Orleans since the game has been the fact the Saints had to ditch a large part of their run game when Josh Hill was injured. Without Hill or Ben Watson the Saints were left without a blocking TE.
HD,Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
Are you saying it's a stretch to think the Patriots are hated because they cheated? Or a stretch to think the fact they cheated led to their dynasty? With the 2 teams playing next week the stories about that subject have already started. Did they cheat to win the 2002 Super Bowl when this all began? Of course they did.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/h...er-bowl-xxxvi/
I know about the Saints' injuries. I follow them. I watch that show on CST "Saints Tonight" with all the inside scoop, the interviews, the real news from camp, etc... First, I haven't heard anyone connected to the team, not Payton, not Brees, not anyone, use the injury list as an excuse. That's because they know that's all it would be...excuses.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Historian
Josh Hill was lost early in the 1st qtr thanks to a helmet to helmet hit, one of several the Rams got away with. So, due to NFL protocols, he had to be sent off. The Rams commit an illegal hit and it's the Saints who got "penalized" for it...losing Hill. And not having Watson was just plain old bad luck...appendicitis!? R U kidding me!? I can just see old Ben telling his grandkids about it someday...had to miss the championship game for medical reasons. Oh? ya had a knee injury, grandpa? Nope! bad appendix!
Still, the Saints were able to put 11 players on the field every play. Professional...well-paid, and assumingly coached players. And none of the injury news excuses Brees' play.
It is what it is (or was). It's over now.
Last year we had to live with the "Miracle in Minnysoda." This year it's a non-call by a former Rams' player and 4 of the crew who live in L.A.. This too shall pass.
That sounds pretty silly.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Blah, blah, blah. Some of you guys are the worst losers I've ever seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Historian
Oh...so we're now going to listen to one of the world's greatest cheaters tell us someone else is cheating? :laugh:
That article just makes Eric Dickerson sound like a whiny, little, has been. Have you forgotten that Dickerson himself, was one of the worst cheaters of all time in college? He and his school (SMU) cheated so bad in college, his school ended up suffering the death penalty in 1987 & 1988. And make no mistake, Dickerson and Craig James --a/k/a the Pony Express-- were right in the middle of it. Does that sound like someone we should really listen to about being cheated? LOL!! :laugh:
I am NO Patriots fan. Never have been. Not by a long shot. But even my own "hatred" of the Pats has nothing to do with spy gate, illegal walk-thru filming or under-inflated footballs. (It's always something, isn't it?) Most of that stuff is just silly, nonsense, by jealous people that are simply tired of losing to 'em. I get it. But people hate 'em, because they win too much, not because of any of that other nonsense. It's the same syndrome the Dallas Cowboys, the Notre Dame Fighting Irish, the New York Yankees and John Wooden's UCLA Bruins had to face at one time or another in their sports history. Nick Saban's Alabama program is starting to feel the same blow back. A few weeks ago, I heard a lot of people say they were cheering for Clemson to beat Alabama in the NC game, because they were tired of BAMA winning all the time.
People just don't like it when you win too much.
The Patriots have the longest active consecutive NFL playoff appearance streak, at 10. The Pats have now made it to 11 Super Bowls, including this years. Frankly, that record makes the rest of the league look like a bunch of goobers & donkey's who can't keep up with the game.
Apparently, you don't know how much of a crook Robert Kraft is or anything about his casino holdings.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
WOW!! :furious3:
https://saintsreport.com/attachments...1-jpeg.110718/
And look at Erin Andrews reaction! See where she's looking. She knew it was fraud.
https://saintsreport.com/attachments...er-jpg.110731/
I think the TV rights, the price for a commercial would rival, or surpass, the Super Bowl! I call BS on the cost excuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
National media now beginning to pick up on a story that's been a mostly local story in and around New Orleans for the past week.
Four NFC Championship Game officials reside in southern California:
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...ern-california
I think we have to look no further than the sports book offering credits on the game...
Without intergrity in gambling/books there is no market
I think that says all that needs to be said about the call and the outcome of the game
It's a sad state of affairs when a sports books has more morality than the league and it's office
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden
When you create a crisis of conscience for BOOKIES … you effed up.
yep. Bad look for the NFL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Champ967
The chances that the NFL would ever invoke that rule are so close to zero they'd fit in a limit expression. It would have to be an obvious, egregious call made on the last play of the game -- like giving a team a TD when the player fell down on the five yard line. Even then, I'd doubt it. Bad calls happen. There were bad calls in that game that favored both teams. There are bad calls in every game that favor both teams. Yeah, the no call was terrible, but you can't put yourself in a position where a call like that matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Brees got popped hard in the helmet/facemask twice in the Rams' game..no call either time. Would it have mattered? No one can know for sure, but since both of those plays would have given the Saints a 1st down on drives that petered out...maybe.
That no-call, by any estimation, was one of the most egregious mess-ups in NFL reffing history (should have left it at "effing" history). Even the guilty party, the Rams' DB, admitted after the game he knew he had been beat and didn't want to give up an easy, walk-in touchdown. So he deliberately took out Lewis.
Still, as I point out to any who will listen. The Saints kicked a FG and took the lead 23-20 with 1:40 left, and couldn't hold the Rams from scoring. Then the Saints won the toss in OT and had a chance to win it, but Brees threw the INT. And yes, there were some missed calls that went both ways, although I think any fair-minded observers would agree the Saints got the short end of that stick too. Everyone knew it was gonna be a close, tough game, and when that's the case, you can always go back to just ONE PLAY and say, change that one, and you change the outcome.
Water under the bridge now...
Not part of the boycott movement. I am a football fan first, and this is the last football game for 7 months. Ugh!
Pats 28 Rams 24
Who gives a crap whether or not Goodell "talked to the players"? Is that supposed to make them feel better? :laugh: I guess we should just give 'em a safe space to hide.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Good, fair post. And don't forget the play just before (I think) the controversial "no call" play........instead of the Saints running the clock down to almost nothing with a run play before the Saints' last FG kick, Brees threw an incomplete pass. He left the Rams with much more time than necessary to come back.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Not at all. Just more of shady Goodell and the NFL's bad judgment, lies and deception.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
Pats are amazing.
Not every team needs an Edelman....only those who want to win Super Bowls.
The Saints need an Edelman.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Owners are already meeting trying to figure out how to get more offense in the game. Considering having DB’s wear blindfolds.
The GOAT QB can only score 13 points in a flag football league. What a joke.
13 - 3? Doesn't sound like I missed much of a game. Not a surprise the Lambs lost.
Does EllAye Tech lead the G5 in number of Super Bowl rings won?
I loved it! Both defenses stepped up and played lights out. Wade Phillips is a great DC. Of course the Pats played good D because Belicheck has taken over calling the defense.Quote:
Originally Posted by tenacious_dog
As for the GOAT QB...he has SIX Super Bowl rings. More than anyone else.
There's a lot of sour grapes all over the blogs and the Net. Oh well...those folks can wallow in their own "piss & vinegar." Meanwhile the Pats have lifted their 6th Lombardi and now have had their 9th SB appearance in the last 17 years under B&B.
Pats are great. That game was terrible. The halftime show was even worse.
The 49ers have one. I wish the Saints would make him an offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
Hunter Renfroe from Clemson.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Thanks, HogDawg. I've been wondering if anyone was ever going to bring up the Saints' play selection after the long completion. No expert here but I couldn't believe they would throw a pass, unless it had a very good chance of being completed, instead of making LA burn their timeouts.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
Drew changed to play at the lineQuote:
Originally Posted by olddawgfan
Quote:
The sideline conversation shows what the Saints had in mind before Brees changed the play at the line because of how the Rams were aligned defensively and threw a first-down pass to Michael Thomas that was low and incomplete.
I initially thought the same thing. But even after the Rams burnt their two timeouts three running plays would have still left more than a minute on the clock going into the field goal attempt. The Rams would have had more than enough time to get Greg the Leg into field goal range.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
I agree with Brees in that the look they were given at the line of scrimmage left Thomas wide open. In fact, if the throw is on the mark Thomas probably scores.
Yep. I've come around on this too. The play was there...it was just a bad throw...which happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Historian
That said, I think the Saints got their vindication last night. Go out and get somebody to go along with Thomas and we should be able to be in the hunt next year. Drew's years are drawing to a close. It's now or never (or later...whatever).
Yep, it was the correct call even though it didn't work out. There was going to be a ton of time left unless they got the first down. The box was stacked and you had a QB with record completion percentage throwing to a WR with record reception percentage.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Historian
No, it wasn't the "correct call"....:laugh: That's exactly why the Saints sat at home during the Super Bowl...it wasn't the right call at all. Regardless of his pitch & catch success rate, running the clock down with the original play call would have been the SMART thing to do. It would have given the Saints the lead and the Rams no time left to come back. It was a terrible audible by what has historically been a very smart QB. But he got arrogant. Instead of just playing it safe, and taking the FG and leaving the Rams with no time and no timeouts, he got cute, and wanted to spike the football (metaphorically speaking). He got burned. If Saints fans were smart, they should be angry at Brees. He literally caused his team to miss the Super Bowl this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by detltu
The bolded parts are where you went wrong. We needed the first down to leave them with no time left. Even if we had gotten the first down they would have gotten the ball back with a small amount of time. There was 1:58 left and the rams had two timeouts. If you run it three times they still get the ball back with over 1 minute left while a first down would allow you to run the clock and give the Rams no timeouts. It was the smart thing to do, unfortunately it didn't work out. You run the ball three times there and the results could have very well been the same. Saints fans can be mad at Brees for throwing the pic in overtime if they want, but I doubt you will find many takers. If you were smart you would know that :laugh:.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
You know, at least the Saints had the opportunity to go to the Super Bowl (NFC Championship game and all), and yes maybe they could have done things a little differently and won the game but alas, they fell short of the ultimate prize unlike another team from our sister state who shall remain nameless. :laugh:
So......you're saying the Saints' defense SUCKED SO BAD they couldn't hold the Rams for even 1 min. :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by detltu