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FriscoDawg
I love the scenic value of the present location. And if there was an extra 60 feet available on all sides, this thread wouldn't be needed because site selection would not be an issue. Next best alternative that would at least pay homage to the current site would be in the Neilsen-Caruthers space with the outfield fence toward the railroad tracks.
And if softball were placed in the current baseball location, both programs could have the scenic value.
Louisiana Tech is a school of Frickin ENGINEERS! MAKE IT WORK! The current Love Shack location is fantastic, with the University Apartments, the Railroad tracks and Wiley Tower in the background. It's also an easy walk for even the laziest of students to get to a game. Why on earth would you want to change that?
Over the last couple of decades, big cities (Denver, Houston, etc...) were smart enough to move their new major league baseball parks to downtown locations, realizing the value of accessibility. In similar fashion, LA Tech needs to be equally smart about this, and take advantage of its' "mid campus" location. You've already got it, don't lose it.
I do not want some out of the way location half way to Grambling, just so we can add another 1K seats that no one will ever sit in. If it's too far away, Tech students won't walk to it. Screw that! We should build a brand new, TOP SHELF, state of the art stadium, right in the same old spot, where students can walk to it. I don't care if it isn't ready until 2022.
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qng001
See how the seating is below the ground level? I wonder if we could feasibly do something like that where the Love shack sits now. Take out a bunch of dirt, build the new stands into a hole. Move it back and closer to tech drive (removing the hill down the right field line by Tech drive). Move the scoreboard to in front of the apartment whose backside faces the stands. That would give use more distance, a (hopefully) bigger hill for people to sit and more hill that won't be covered by a scoreboard. We could go with a shorter fence in right field where people could hang over. Go with a taller fence in left field because I think that would be the shorter distance.
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touchdown123
I will lay down in front of a bulldozer before this happens.
I'm game.
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The Historian
Again, we're a school of Frickin ENGINEERS! This doesn't looks that tough to me. Do we need to hire Texas A&M Aggie Engineers to get it done? I hope not. But you sure make it sound like we're asking our people to split atoms.
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Fletch Fletcher
It was a complete rebuild of the previous grandstand, but the existing field, drainage system, lighting, fences, bullpens, etc were all left in place. That's a good chunk of the money saved. Starting from scratch is going to get expensive. I think $18-23 million is probably what yall will end up spending.
But you are missing the point -
It will only cost TECH $9 to $12 million to build a new park with of price tag of $20 million plus...
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qng001
Wow! That bottom photo is perfect!! That's "the look" we should be shooting for. Love the grassy knoll behind the outfield.
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HogDawg
Again, we're a school of Frickin ENGINEERS! This doesn't looks that tough to me. Do we need to hire Texas A&M Aggie Engineers to get it done? I hope not. But you sure make it sound like we're asking our people to split atoms.
Not saying that at all. Again, I posted the pics strictly for reference.
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touchdown123
I will lay down in front of a bulldozer before this happens.
Seems a little extreme. JMHO.
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Dwayne From Minden
But you are missing the point -
It will only cost TECH $9 to $12 million to build a new park with of price tag of $20 million plus...
also we must move the fences back another 15 to 20 feet in the corners. Can't do that without moving the grandstands back (bulldozed). I'm not sure why people don't understand that we cannot use bits and pieces of the old venue
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PawDawg
also we must move the fences back another 15 to 20 feet in the corners. Can't do that without moving the grandstands back (bulldozed). I'm not sure why people don't understand that we cannot use bits and pieces of the old venue
Road easements/ building setbacks are the biggest obstacle at the current location. Government red tape will be the biggest factor in what happens. Cost will also play a factor...
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eagle2180
Road easements/ building setbacks are the biggest obstacle at the current location. Government red tape will be the biggest factor in what happens. Cost will also play a factor...
FEMA dollars override government anything. Even flag pole movement.
Where are you getting your information? I'm guessing you are hearing it from peeps who don't want to go back to the old locations. That's fine, but please don't play the BS game of "Government red tape" and "costs".
Time is our enemy, not money or government.
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eagle2180
Road easements/ building setbacks are the biggest obstacle at the current location. Government red tape will be the biggest factor in what happens. Cost will also play a factor...
All three are least of the problem faced -
I think govt will actually be a bonus on this from Baton Rouge to the City, I don’t see any major flags or hurdles at this point...
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Dwayne From Minden
All three are least of the problem faced -
I think govt will actually be a bonus on this from Baton Rouge to the City, I don’t see any major flags or hurdles at this point...
This.
Public higher ed institutions have HUGE autonomy as far as land use is concerned. They’re largely a law unto themselves.
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I shifted the stadium back some and rotated in-line with Hale Hall. I also stretched the field some to add 15-20 ft to the field. It works out.
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Champ967
This.
Public higher ed institutions have HUGE autonomy as far as land use is concerned. They’re largely a law unto themselves.
Yep! that's why NSU was allowed to gate off streets...public, City of Natchitoches streets. A resident filed a lawsuit seeking to disallow the gates, which close at 10PM every night and are kept closed 24 hrs/day during Christmas break etc...while the university is closed. Only Caspari Street entrance remains opened and it has a gated guard shack, manned by a police officer. The state AG ruled in favor of NSU saying it has "special" privileges to take steps toward maintaining safety on campus.
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I see all of this about the "short porches" down the lines, but Love Field doesn't seem to yield significantly more HRs than other parks. Anyone have the stats?
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dawg80
I see all of this about the "short porches" down the lines, but Love Field doesn't seem to yield significantly more HRs than other parks. Anyone have the stats?
Besides seating, I don't think many are concerned with the field being short as far as wanting a change. I think most are concerned with the NCAA having put in the rule book what the recommended distance for a baseball field should be and with the shack being short would that play into Tech not getting chosen for a host opportunity.
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I think The Love shack has one of the most picturesque locations in baseball and don't want it to be moved.
That being said the stadium has to be built to at least minimum "suggested" dimensions by the NCAA if Tech is to ever host a regional. Just working around the field:
Love Shack 315 down the left field line, minimum suggested 330.
Love Shack 370 in the left field power alley, minimum is 375.
Love Shack 385 in center, suggested minimum 400.
Love Shack 340 in the right field power alley, minimum suggested is 375.
Love Shack 325 down right field, minimum suggested 330.
Love Shack 25 feet between left field line and the outside wall, minimum 30 but suggested 37.
Love Shack 12 feet between right field line and the outside wall, minimum 30 but suggested 37.
That's a lot of moving around and ground to make up. As much as I want to see it stay I also want to see baseball be in a position where we can sell the possibility of hosting a regional or super to recruits. It needs to be done right even if that means moving it do so.
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Would it be possible to move the stadium closer to the intersection? We'd need a retaining wall on the Tech Drive side (brick of course).
As for parking, we need to have (for football and baseball/softball) a tram similar to Six Flags running constantly through the game with parking available on campus or JAS. These could also be used during the school year to access to parking at JAS to shuttle students to campus.
http://summercamppro.com/wp-content/...am-300x225.jpg
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qng001
I shifted the stadium back some and rotated in-line with Hale Hall. I also stretched the field some to add 15-20 ft to the field. It works out.
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We need as much distance as possible between the RR property and our property.
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SIC_EM_DAWGS!
I think The Love shack has one of the most picturesque locations in baseball and don't want it to be moved.
That being said the stadium has to be built to at least minimum "suggested" dimensions by the NCAA if Tech is to ever host a regional. Just working around the field:
Love Shack 315 down the left field line, minimum suggested 330.
Love Shack 370 in the left field power alley, minimum is 375.
Love Shack 385 in center, suggested minimum 400.
Love Shack 340 in the right field power alley, minimum suggested is 375.
Love Shack 325 down right field, minimum suggested 330.
Love Shack 25 feet between left field line and the outside wall, minimum 30 but suggested 37.
Love Shack 12 feet between right field line and the outside wall, minimum 30 but suggested 37.
That's a lot of moving around and ground to make up. As much as I want to see it stay I also want to see baseball be in a position where we can sell the possibility of hosting a regional or super to recruits. It needs to be done right even if that means moving it do so.
Thanks for posting that.
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Below level seating behind the plate.
Grandstand with second level similar to The Box.
Foul line seating at least to the end of the dugouts.
Concourse up at the mid-level.
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SIC_EM_DAWGS!
I think The Love shack has one of the most picturesque locations in baseball and don't want it to be moved. That being said the stadium has to be built to at least minimum "suggested" dimensions by the NCAA if Tech is to ever host a regional.
As much as I want to see it stay I also want to see baseball be in a position where we can sell the possibility of hosting a regional or super to recruits. It needs to be done right even if that means moving it do so.
I agree with everything you are saying. I would add one thing to it, something Friscodawg has been posting for the past week.
If baseball has to be moved I want the athletic department to keep that site and move softball to it. For under $4 million we could build at Top 10 level softball facility in the country on that site. UL-Lafayette has spent roughly $3 million and created an incredible atmosphere, which includes an indoor hitting facility. Build something similar and throw in the railroad tracks and the dorms as a backdrop. You then have a facility that our coaching staff can recruit to. Homeplate would be roughly where second base is now located. You also have room to build a berm or party deck in right field between what would be the softball fence and railroad property.
Again, if baseball has to move this is the alternative I'd like to see.
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I think The Love shack has one of the most picturesque locations in baseball and don't want it to be moved.
That being said the stadium has to be built to at least minimum "suggested" dimensions by the NCAA if Tech is to ever host a regional. Just working around the field:
Love Shack 315 down the left field line, minimum suggested 330. - 15 FT
Love Shack 370 in the left field power alley, minimum is 375. - 5 FT
Love Shack 385 in center, suggested minimum 400. - 15 ft
Love Shack 340 in the right field power alley, minimum suggested is 375. - 35 FT
Love Shack 325 down right field, minimum suggested 330. - 5 ft
Love Shack 25 feet between left field line and the outside wall, minimum 30 but suggested 37. - 12 ft
Love Shack 12 feet between right field line and the outside wall, minimum 30 but suggested 37. - 18 ft * to minimum
That's a lot of moving around and ground to make up. As much as I want to see it stay I also want to see baseball be in a position where we can sell the possibility of hosting a regional or super to recruits. It needs to be done right even if that means moving it do so.
That's not a lot of shifting and moving in actuality - most measurements are less than 15 ft
I'm hearing that we are in preliminary talks with several design firms and we could be released to contract with a designed service as early as next week by the state
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Fletch Fletcher
FYI, some recently constructed college baseball stadiums with their cost/capcities:
Under Construction:
Unnamed Stadium: Marshall, 3,500 capacity, $18-20 Million, opens in 2021
O'Brate Stadium: Okalahoma State, 8,000 capacity, $60 Million, opens in 2020
Opened 2019:
Dudy Noble: Missisippi State, 12,000 capacity, $68 Million
Kentucky Proud Park: $49 Million, 5,000 capacity
Opened 2018:
Brighton Field: Boston College, 1,000 capacity, Was a small part of a $200 Million project
Kentucky Proud Park: Kentucky, 5,000 capacity, $49 Million
2015:
Monongalia County Ballpark: West Virginia, 3,500 capacity, $25 Million, opened 2015
Liberty Baseball Stadium: Liberty, 2,500 capacity, $9 Million, opened 2013
Bart Kaufman Field: Indiana, 2,500 capacity, $19.8 Million, opened 2013
Alexander Field: Purdue, 1,500 capacity, $10.3 Million, opened 2013
Louisiana Lafayette spent $16 million just to renovate!
In Development:
Fletcher's prize package for 2018-2019 Bowl Pick 'em Champion Prize pack.
Capacity: Unknown
Cost: Unknown
Expected to be delivered: Eventually
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The Historian
I agree with everything you are saying. I would add one thing to it, something Friscodawg has been posting for the past week.
If baseball has to be moved I want the athletic department to keep that site and move softball to it. For under $4 million we could build at Top 10 level softball facility in the country on that site. UL-Lafayette has spent roughly $3 million and created an incredible atmosphere, which includes an indoor hitting facility. Build something similar and throw in the railroad tracks and the dorms as a backdrop. You then have a facility that our coaching staff can recruit to. Homeplate would be roughly where second base is now located. You also have room to build a berm or party deck in right field between what would be the softball fence and railroad property.
Again, if baseball has to move this is the alternative I'd like to see.
I agree. If the baseball stadium has to be moved then softball needs to go to that location. Track and soccer need to have a combined facility and the tennis courts need to be moved for a IPF. I would like to see the IPF and football practice field right next to each other so we would need to move the track. Maybe move the track and soccer complex to where the current football practice field is at? I'm not sure where the tennis courts should go.
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Just had an idea for the tennis courts. The gravel lot on the other side of the TAC near Hideaway Park and Alabama St. Put the tennis courts there and pave the gravel lot for parking for the tennis courts and basketball.
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Dwayne From Minden
I think The Love shack has one of the most picturesque locations in baseball and don't want it to be moved.
Agreed! And do whatever it takes to allow TECH to host regionals and to keep it in from being moved.
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Originally Posted by
SIC_EM_DAWGS!
I think The Love shack has one of the most picturesque locations in baseball and don't want it to be moved.
That being said the stadium has to be built to at least minimum "suggested" dimensions by the NCAA if Tech is to ever host a regional. Just working around the field:
Love Shack 315 down the left field line, minimum suggested 330.
Love Shack 370 in the left field power alley, minimum is 375.
Love Shack 385 in center, suggested minimum 400.
Love Shack 340 in the right field power alley, minimum suggested is 375.
Love Shack 325 down right field, minimum suggested 330.
Love Shack 25 feet between left field line and the outside wall, minimum 30 but suggested 37.
Love Shack 12 feet between right field line and the outside wall, minimum 30 but suggested 37.
That's a lot of moving around and ground to make up. As much as I want to see it stay I also want to see baseball be in a position where we can sell the possibility of hosting a regional or super to recruits. It needs to be done right even if that means moving it do so.
I think you can rebuild in the same spot and meet those minimum dimension requirements if you just shift the grandstand closer to Alabama Ave. The parking lot would just need to be relocated across the intersection.
https://i.imgur.com/YVfaAGO.jpg
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deb025
Track and soccer need to have a combined facility and the tennis courts need to be moved for a IPF. I would like to see the IPF and football practice field right next to each other so we would need to move the track.
IPFs make players weak and soft.
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I'm excited to see what the professionals doing the design work come up with. Anyone who does collegiate athletics sports venues are going to have a lot of knowledge and advise we'll get to take advantage of. They aren't going to want to be associated with a new facility that isn't up to snuff because it will affect what other potential collegiate clients think of them. So while ultimately the decision of where we put the new ballpark will be up to us, IF we move I'll bet there will be some pretty compelling reasons to do so. And maybe it stays right where it is.
Personally, I've got a good feeling about how this is going to work out.
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The one thing I’d add is to be mindful that the scale Tech works towards in having the best they can have going forward based on what the NCAA wants or requires for hosting big events could possibly change in 5 years. I sure hope we don’t barely big enough and then scale ourselves out of consideration. Keep in mind that the NCAA doesn’t exactly love the smaller schools.
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Bone_afide_Dawg
The one thing I’d add is to be mindful that the scale Tech works towards in having the best they can have going forward based on what the NCAA wants or requires for hosting big events could possibly change in 5 years. I sure hope we don’t barely big enough and then scale ourselves out of consideration. Keep in mind that the NCAA doesn’t exactly love the smaller schools.
Obviously we gotta get in position to host before we can host. As "smaller schools" USM and Lafayette are set up to host, but it is not about the seating capacity. It is about being seeded high enough and actually submitting a bid.
We met all the NCAA qualifications before the storm. I don't see them changing that much. NCAA baseball has been consistent for a long time.
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I like the combine soccer and track idea. Do move the Soccer up to where the track is now. this opens up a lot of land where the soccer field was. Moving the field closer to the intersection removes parking but not a lot. They can just add more parking in the Softball/Soccer land if the Soccer and track combine.
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touchdown123
Prove it.
What do you mean "Prove it"? ummm...Tech Drive. Alabama. The Dorms. The Railroad Track. Short of relocating, removing, or rerouting any of those things, we have all the property we will ever have. We're landlocked there...I'm not bitching about it, I'm saying, put the passionate feelings about our beautiful Love Shack aside and make sure we make the BEST decision. She's sat on the corner of Alabama and Tech drive for about 50 years, and I love where it's at in 2019. Will that capacity, and that location, still work for our grandchildren in 2069? I don't know what the future holds. And neither do you.
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ChuckK3
What do you mean "Prove it"? ummm...Tech Drive. Alabama. The Dorms. The Railroad Track. Short of relocating, removing, or rerouting any of those things, we have all the property we will ever have. We're landlocked there...I'm not bitching about it, I'm saying, put the passionate feelings about our beautiful Love Shack aside and make sure we make the BEST decision. She's sat on the corner of Alabama and Tech drive for about 50 years, and I love where it's at in 2019. Will that capacity, and that location, still work for our grandchildren in 2069? I don't know what the future holds. And neither do you.
If you literally meant landlocked and not that there isn't enough space, then yes your thesis is self proving. I don't believe there isn't enough space and that's what I want somebody to prove.
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Southern Arkansas has a decent softball complex for what it is. The stands are small (we can easily make larger, permanent brick stands not just a press box.) The size isnt what I’d replicate, but the idea is there. Two sports fields sharing a single nice concession/bathroom building. Batting cage behind this building and takes up no unnecessary space.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sit...6_dji_0019.jpg
Similar layout can be applied to a softball-soccer arrangement if you want good bathrooms and concessions available to teams at either sport without having to put one at each.
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Tech52
The size isnt what I’d replicate, but the idea is there..
twss
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Tech52
Southern Arkansas has a decent softball complex for what it is. The stands are small (we can easily make larger, permanent brick stands not just a press box.) The size isnt what I’d replicate, but the idea is there. Two sports fields sharing a single nice concession/bathroom building. Batting cage behind this building and takes up no unnecessary space.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sit...6_dji_0019.jpg
Similar layout can be applied to a softball-soccer arrangement if you want good bathrooms and concessions available to teams at either sport without having to put one at each.
I would expect something similar on a larger scale if both sports were moved to the old Neilson-Carruthers site. You can't do that today if those same sports were rebuilt where they are now because of the flood area in the creek bed. That's the reason why nothing permanent has been built in that area since the mid 80s (other than some metal bleachers).
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Tech52
Southern Arkansas has a decent softball complex for what it is. The stands are small (we can easily make larger, permanent brick stands not just a press box.) The size isnt what I’d replicate, but the idea is there. Two sports fields sharing a single nice concession/bathroom building. Batting cage behind this building and takes up no unnecessary space.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sit...6_dji_0019.jpg
Similar layout can be applied to a softball-soccer arrangement if you want good bathrooms and concessions available to teams at either sport without having to put one at each.
That literally looks like a little league complex. You can find that in Minden.
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HogDawg
Louisiana Tech is a school of Frickin ENGINEERS! MAKE IT WORK! The current Love Shack location is fantastic, with the University Apartments, the Railroad tracks and Wiley Tower in the background. It's also an easy walk for even the laziest of students to get to a game. Why on earth would you want to change that?
Over the last couple of decades, big cities (Denver, Houston, etc...) were smart enough to move their new major league baseball parks to downtown locations, realizing the value of accessibility. In similar fashion, LA Tech needs to be equally smart about this, and take advantage of its' "mid campus" location. You've already got it, don't lose it.
I do not want some out of the way location half way to Grambling, just so we can add another 1K seats that no one will ever sit in. If it's too far away, Tech students won't walk to it. Screw that! We should build a brand new, TOP SHELF, state of the art stadium, right in the same old spot, where students can walk to it. I don't care if it isn't ready until 2022.
This all the way. You see this urban planning around the country now- a shift from spaced out car centered construction to denser walkable areas. Students are not going to go to games if it’s farther. Not talking about dimensions but aesthetics and location, the Love Shack is in a perfect location. Everyone that goes to the Love Shack raves about its location. They love the apartments behind it, they love the railroad track. It feels like a part of a neighborhood; it has charm. People rave about Fenway and Wrigley because of their location, not many people love looking at baseball stadiums in suburbs surrounded by paved parking lots. The Love Shack is distinctly Tech, moving it away from it’s location would be removing a part of culture of campus.
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The Historian
I would expect something similar on a larger scale.
twss
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Dawgonit
This all the way. You see this urban planning around the country now- a shift from spaced out car centered construction to denser walkable areas. Students are not going to go to games if it’s farther. Not talking about dimensions but aesthetics and location, the Love Shack is in a perfect location. Everyone that goes to the Love Shack raves about its location. They love the apartments behind it, they love the railroad track. It feels like a part of a neighborhood; it has charm. People rave about Fenway and Wrigley because of their location, not many people love looking at baseball stadiums in suburbs surrounded by paved parking lots. The Love Shack is distinctly Tech, moving it away from it’s location would be removing a part of culture of campus.
Great post!
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Dawgonit
This all the way. You see this urban planning around the country now- a shift from spaced out car centered construction to denser walkable areas. Students are not going to go to games if it’s farther. Not talking about dimensions but aesthetics and location, the Love Shack is in a perfect location. Everyone that goes to the Love Shack raves about its location. They love the apartments behind it, they love the railroad track. It feels like a part of a neighborhood; it has charm. People rave about Fenway and Wrigley because of their location, not many people love looking at baseball stadiums in suburbs surrounded by paved parking lots. The Love Shack is distinctly Tech, moving it away from it’s location would be removing a part of culture of campus.
I agree. The ballpark in Arlington comes to mind as far as what I don’t want.
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Found this park, UW Husky Ballpark (built 2014). Capacity 2,200. Cost $15 Million. Looks fantastic. I want this (maybe with additional seating).
https://www.srgpartnership.com/work/husky-ballpark
ABOUT HUSKY BALLPARK
The stadium cost approximately $15 million, and includes:- Seating for 2,200
- Permanent entrance and facade that ties with collegiate feel of other Athletic Department buildings
- Views of Lake Washington
- New Team Performance Center
- New, enhanced scoreboard
- New field turf
- Press box and media area
- Full compliment of public restrooms and concessions
- Husky Authentic – the Official Team Store of University of Washington Athletics, offering unique Husky Baseball apparel and accessories
- Grass berm for students and families
http://www.dci-engineers.com/sites/d...?itok=2obRxjDx
http://www.dci-engineers.com/sites/d...?itok=C_qz_WgZ
http://www.dci-engineers.com/sites/d...?itok=yOtTFCsG
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Dawgonit
This all the way. You see this urban planning around the country now- a shift from spaced out car centered construction to denser walkable areas. Students are not going to go to games if it’s farther. Not talking about dimensions but aesthetics and location, the Love Shack is in a perfect location. Everyone that goes to the Love Shack raves about its location. They love the apartments behind it, they love the railroad track. It feels like a part of a neighborhood; it has charm. People rave about Fenway and Wrigley because of their location, not many people love looking at baseball stadiums in suburbs surrounded by paved parking lots. The Love Shack is distinctly Tech, moving it away from it’s location would be removing a part of culture of campus.
As many others have posted on this board and elsewhere over the past few days if baseball were to move away from the Love Shack then softball should be relocated to that sight. You have everything you've talked about just with a different sport.
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qng001
That's what I'm talking about - with a capacity of about 3,000 or so...
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Dwayne From Minden
That's what I'm talking about - with a capacity of about 3,000 or so...
Included in their $15 Million build they have a nice Player Development Building off to the side integrated into the park. This park has turf, new video board, team shop. A very fine venue. If we were to have amenities like UW, the existing Love Shack location is a tight squeeze (TWSS), but probably do-able. I would totally understand if they move it to a more roomier location if we are looking at beefing up the stadium.
https://www.srgpartnership.com/conte...n49_medium.jpg
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Dawgonit
This all the way. You see this urban planning around the country now- a shift from spaced out car centered construction to denser walkable areas. Students are not going to go to games if it’s farther. Not talking about dimensions but aesthetics and location, the Love Shack is in a perfect location. Everyone that goes to the Love Shack raves about its location. They love the apartments behind it, they love the railroad track. It feels like a part of a neighborhood; it has charm. People rave about Fenway and Wrigley because of their location, not many people love looking at baseball stadiums in suburbs surrounded by paved parking lots. The Love Shack is distinctly Tech, moving it away from it’s location would be removing a part of culture of campus.
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That's what I'm talking about - with a capacity of about 3,000 or so...
Shouldn't be too hard to add 800 more seats going vertically- just double the amount of rows in the chairback area.
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qng001
Well great. Thanks for posting this because if it doesn't have this or very similar, I don't want it. haha jk. But this would be great to shoot for these type of facilities.
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qng001
Found this park, UW Husky Ballpark (built 2014). Capacity 2,200. Cost $15 Million. Looks fantastic. I want this (maybe with additional seating).
https://www.srgpartnership.com/work/husky-ballpark
ABOUT HUSKY BALLPARK
The stadium cost approximately $15 million, and includes:
- Seating for 2,200
- Permanent entrance and facade that ties with collegiate feel of other Athletic Department buildings
- Views of Lake Washington
- New Team Performance Center
- New, enhanced scoreboard
- New field turf
- Press box and media area
- Full compliment of public restrooms and concessions
- Husky Authentic – the Official Team Store of University of Washington Athletics, offering unique Husky Baseball apparel and accessories
- Grass berm for students and families
http://www.dci-engineers.com/sites/d...?itok=2obRxjDx
It'll actually fit pretty nicely on the existing footprint if you change the field orientation.
https://i.imgur.com/hsyS3B0.jpg
Add a new parking lot on the corner of Tech & Railroad and you've got a short walk to a nice park in a desired location.
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Dawgonit
This all the way. You see this urban planning around the country now- a shift from spaced out car centered construction to denser walkable areas. Students are not going to go to games if it’s farther. Not talking about dimensions but aesthetics and location, the Love Shack is in a perfect location. Everyone that goes to the Love Shack raves about its location. They love the apartments behind it, they love the railroad track. It feels like a part of a neighborhood; it has charm. People rave about Fenway and Wrigley because of their location, not many people love looking at baseball stadiums in suburbs surrounded by paved parking lots. The Love Shack is distinctly Tech, moving it away from it’s location would be removing a part of culture of campus.
I agree. I believe that the JAS/TAC is about as far as students would want to walk. Even the Lambright Center is on the very periphery of distance. Of course we were used to Memorial GYM and old Tech Stadium (where AE Pillips is now). The baseball field was the furthest -- just under the RR track and a little walk. With the new housing on that side of the tracks the target has moved a bit, but for those on the far side (Graham etc) it's still a hike. They have torn down or decommissioned the nearest dorms (for good reason probably).
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I want cup holders!
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I want something besides Pepsi in my cup!
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This!
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I want something besides Pepsi in my cup!
Coke (freaking) Cola!
Pepsi = Yankee :toilet: "swill"
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SIC_EM_DAWGS!
I think The Love shack has one of the most picturesque locations in baseball and don't want it to be moved.
That being said the stadium has to be built to at least minimum "suggested" dimensions by the NCAA if Tech is to ever host a regional. Just working around the field:
Love Shack 315 down the left field line, minimum suggested 330.
Love Shack 370 in the left field power alley, minimum is 375.
Love Shack 385 in center, suggested minimum 400.
Love Shack 340 in the right field power alley, minimum suggested is 375.
Love Shack 325 down right field, minimum suggested 330.
Love Shack 25 feet between left field line and the outside wall, minimum 30 but suggested 37.
Love Shack 12 feet between right field line and the outside wall, minimum 30 but suggested 37.
That's a lot of moving around and ground to make up. As much as I want to see it stay I also want to see baseball be in a position where we can sell the possibility of hosting a regional or super to recruits. It needs to be done right even if that means moving it do so.
Looking at some of Dawgpix's & other pics, Ruston High's dimensions are
RHS 320 down the left field line, minimum suggested 330.
RHS 350 in the left field power alley, minimum is 375.
RHS 370 in center, suggested minimum 400.
RHS 350 in the right field power alley, minimum suggested is 375.
RHS 320 (assuming symmetry) down right field, minimum suggested 330.
The numbers are similar to Love Shack. We could play there for a year while the new stadium is constructed.
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I'm not sure what the current grandstand looks like. This is an old google streetview image of 2013. If it still looks like what it did in this streetview, we need to at least add some vinyl banners to wrap up the chain-link fence.
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Found an image through the Ruston Sports Complex FB page. Uploaded March 15, so pretty recent. I wonder if soccer and softball can find a temp home at the new complex.
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Looking at the RHS Varsity schedule - it looks doable - https://rustonhigh.lincolnschools.org/baseball
JV & Freshman games would probably need to be played at one of the other fields
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tech70
I want something besides Pepsi in my cup!
Thanksfully you can bring your own Coke for baseball!
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Yeah, our District 2-5A schedule runs Friday-Saturday. Show me the doable part.
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Found an image through the Ruston Sports Complex FB page. Uploaded March 15, so pretty recent. I wonder if soccer and softball can find a temp home at the new complex.
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If we use RHS next year, they could add some temporary bleachers down the first base line past the bullpen/light pole for more seating. Maybe even some on 3rd base side or in the outfield.https://i0.wp.com/rentalbleachersinc...38%2C472&ssl=1
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Show me the doable part.
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Yeah, our District 2-5A schedule runs Friday-Saturday. Show me the doable part.
It's not ideal - but it's better than playing games at numerous facilities. Like I said, Ruston JV/Freshman would need to play at one of the Ruston Sports stadiums and Tech would need to practice there.
Here is Ruston's home & district schedule for 2019.
Red games are played on same day as Tech home games this year.
It looks as RHS & Tech already try not to schedule games at the same time. It would be very 'doable' to make sure Tech is on the road during the 2nd weekend.
I'm sure C-USA and whoever schedules for District 2-5A can figure a way to make it work.
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Dixonfor6
That literally looks like a little league complex. You can find that in Minden.
Well its all they need. Concept is what matters, can be applied on a bigger scale. They built this to allow themselves to host their conference tournaments and D2/D3 (whatever they are) regionals I believe.
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Add another set of bleachers and we couild survive there for a season.
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The way this team plays, a high school field is good enough.
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I was thinking the same thing. It’s hard to be inspired about the future when the present stinks.
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Hopefully this has not already been brought up - I searched the thread for "Mitchell" with no results returned.
Remove the remaining dorms on the west side of Tech Drive (Mitchell, Cottingham, and Richardson). Art studios can be relocated somewhere else on campus - maybe even in Harper for the time being.
Plenty of room for both fields. And LOTS of parking space - something the two existing sites do not have. Parking that will be a plus for students during the day.
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Hopefully this has not already been brought up - I searched the thread for "Mitchell" with no results returned.
Remove the remaining dorms on the west side of Tech Drive (Mitchell, Cottingham, and Richardson). Art studios can be relocated somewhere else on campus - maybe even in Harper for the time being.
Plenty of room for both fields. And LOTS of parking space - something the two existing sites do not have. Parking that will be a plus for students during the day.
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I think the area where Nielson & Caruthers would be perfect. It wouldn't have the apartments, but you could have the train.
Also, according to the
Master Plan, all three buildings in that area are destined for demolition. We could place the Softball and Soccer/Track facilities there as well. We could build a nice concession/restroom facility for use with all three.
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I think Harper is going down before Mitchell does
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If we use RHS next year, they could add some temporary bleachers down the first base line past the bullpen/light pole for more seating. Maybe even some on 3rd base side or in the outfield.
I think we could do the below without much cost "if" we use RHS.
Outside Park- Truck Tailgate Parking (this is for our fans who watch games in the Shack outfield), folks can back up their trucks, open pit bbq, party in this area.
Inside Park- Add additional temp seating
- Food Truck area (not sure how adequate the concession are for added fans in the park, I assume we need to bring in food trucks)
- Reserve tent (not sure what to call it)
- Maybe add port-a-john area
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How about a better place for Dave to call games from?
https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrisDemi...06583823720450
He had to serve tacos between innings!!!
All kidding aside, maybe a Tech donor can build a larger press box
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This might be too much to ask but if the softball stadium is destroyed also, could we switch softball's layout to match the baseball's layout at the love shack? That way when driving down Tech Drive, you face towards the back of both the baseball stadium and softball stadium at the intersection of Tech and Alabama? It would look much better if they can mirror their designs, or at least make them match i.e not one be metal stands and the other be concrete and brick. That parking lot is an eyesore when driving down Tech's "entrance" down Tech drive. They can put the parking lot behind the the stadium probably.
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I think Harper is going down before Mitchell does
Everything is on the table at this point. The plan a month ago may not be the plan a month from now.
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All kidding aside, maybe a Tech donor can build a larger press box
Or rent something temporary like this, but enclosed.
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It really is not much smaller than what TECH had before. This is a non-issue
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It really is not much smaller than what TECH had before. This is a non-issue
Tell that to Dave :laugh:
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I wonder if Dave was in the taco truck because out of courtesy WK’s radio announcer was in the Ruston press box. If so I can understand that. I doubt that box is big enough for two crews. After all it is a high school facility.
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I wonder if Dave was in the taco truck because out of courtesy WK’s radio announcer was in the Ruston press box. If so I can understand that. I doubt that box is big enough for two crews. After all it is a high school facility.
I believe that’s what had happened. If you listen to Cory Diaz tweet from Fridaysgamr, it sounds like a radio guy in the background
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I saw Dave at the NSU game during pre-game and he was having trouble walking. He had a cane and a helper and was still struggling. I am sure that is why he was not in the press box.
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This might be too much to ask but if the softball stadium is destroyed also, could we switch softball's layout to match the baseball's layout at the love shack? That way when driving down Tech Drive, you face towards the back of both the baseball stadium and softball stadium at the intersection of Tech and Alabama? It would look much better if they can mirror their designs, or at least make them match i.e not one be metal stands and the other be concrete and brick. That parking lot is an eyesore when driving down Tech's "entrance" down Tech drive. They can put the parking lot behind the the stadium probably.
Not a bad thought. I like the idea of them mirroring and matching.
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I saw Dave at the NSU game during pre-game and he was having trouble walking. He had a cane and a helper and was still struggling. I am sure that is why he was not in the press box.
makes sense
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Dave could have played the ADA card on EllAyeTech years ago. Of course he would not do that, but now it is to the point that he absolutely must have an elevator to get up there. ADA will require both an elevator AND a restroom in the new press box area.
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If he uses the food truck next year (assuming we are at Ruston High), then I hope they get a new La Tech wrap on the truck - as well as sponsorships! Good opportunity - Johnny's Pizza Radio Booth or whatever
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If he uses the food truck next year (assuming we are at Ruston High), then I hope they get a new La Tech wrap on the truck - as well as sponsorships! Good opportunity - Johnny's Pizza Radio Booth or whatever
I'm against spending any money - sponsor or program - for things next year at any alternate site
I would rather spend every single red cent at the new facility...
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Dwayne From Minden
I'm against spending any money - sponsor or program - for things next year at any alternate site
I would rather spend every single red cent at the new facility...
Right! Let’s hope our leaders can see that next year is not as important as the next 50-60 years.
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Any update on whats going on with possibilities for baseball/softball fields for next year?
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I know we prob need to stay close for daily use for practice/training. I assume the Ruston Sports Complex will be our new home for soccer/tennis/baseball/soccer next year.
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Any update on whats going on with possibilities for baseball/softball fields for next year?
This is excerpt from this week's email update to the students from Pres. Guice:
This past week, we were focused on preparing for visits by FEMA and state
government agencies in assessing campus damage. The primary focus has been
to get solid preliminary damage assessment data that can be used in
achieving a damage threshold that will enable the Governor to ask the
President for declaration of a national disaster. That is crucial in getting
resources that are necessary for full recovery. Our administrative team led
by Sam Wallace, Adam McGuirt and Jim King did an excellent job in pulling
information together, and I believe that the FEMA team left campus on Friday
with some confidence that our data will be sufficient for the disaster
declaration.
We are also exploring our options for rebuilding of campus facilities that
were damaged or destroyed. We have asked the State of Louisiana for
permission to use emergency measures to speed up restoration efforts so that
we are prepared to return to full speed as soon as possible. I remain
confident that as we complete these restoration efforts, as well as some
other campus enhancements that were in the planning stages prior to the
storms, we will have a more beautiful and vibrant campus than ever.
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If he uses the food truck next year (assuming we are at Ruston High), then I hope they get a new La Tech wrap on the truck - as well as sponsorships! Good opportunity - Johnny's Pizza Radio Booth or whatever
I think Dave should sell tacos out of the truck. Good revenue maker for Tech! I can hear it now...
"There's the pitch...ball, outside, count is 1 and 0...oh, pardon me..."You want mild or hot sauce with that?" Thank you. "Next pitch, swung on fouled back..."
Dave can multitask.
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Nothing really new in here - just a article based on T-Mac's time at Tech & Tails
Louisiana Tech is taking patient approach to rebuild
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I was told we may look at modeling after Dallas Baptist
Correct. It's a possibility. Just a bigger version. The big draw here is the fact it was designed by HKS. We should strongly consider using them.
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I don't like it. Looks too small and cheap. For goodness sake, it's DBU...they don't have any money. Yes, DBU is a quality baseball program, but that stadium is ugly.
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Coastal Carolina did a great job with their stadium build a few years ago. Plenty of seating options (Suite, Club, chairback, berm, outfield deck)
https://goccusports.com/common/contr...ks_Stadium.png
I like the open air club area (left on pic) and suites on the right.
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You want suites? How much cost would they add and how much extra revenue would they bring in. Or would they be just another place for the rich guys to gather and hob nob with one another and TMac and maybe watch the game. If all they want to do is socialize let them go up the street to the Alumni Center. Chair backs would be great, though. I don't believe we should go back to my day sitting in lawn chairs or on bleachers, but it was fun watching Coach Berry Hinton chase down those foul tips or chatting across the fence with the bullpen.
On that point where would you rather watch a foot ball game? In some posh suite up in the stratosphere about half way up the stadium between the forties?
