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It’s tearfully laughable how Tech always finds a way to self destruct themselves out of being taken seriously. With so much at stake in this game we showed up to play shamefully bad baseball. This embarrassment will effectively end any post season hosting opportunity. My last hope is that we didn’t just see the beginning of a season ending slump to have Tech left out of the NCAA field.
Which is why those counts needs to be applied per player across all competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dowty
Burroughs didn’t do the post game interview. I wonder why? I guess it’s because like he’s said, he hates to lose and can’t talk after having his ass kicked. It’s too bad he can’t instill that same desire to win in his pitching coach and pitchers. Oh well, we all know how this year is going to end, we’ve seen the rehearsals against Marshall, FIU and now LSU.
USM # 11 nationally in ERA, Tech # 65.
Where is our former PC again?
the one LB and our former AD ran off?Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
I was looking at Ostrander’s resume. We should dump Burroughs and hire him.
He was the player and many fans pick to replace Goff. Our spineless AD named him co-HC with LB. That horrible move lasted one year.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
Tech still has a shot to host a regional, but I think it has to do all of these things:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bone_afide_Dawg
1) Win at least 3 of 4 against UTSA
2) At least split the 2 games against ODU
3) Win its pool and make the C-USA championship game with any losses only to USM, ODU, or Charlotte.
Dude, give it up. We’ll be lucky to make the tournament.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
We can’t compete in tournament play with our bull pen
I appreciate your optimism and really hope you’re at least right and that we actually do even better than that. Unfortunately after our recent really bad performances I have serious doubts that we’ll do any of the things you say. Burroughs is in a real bind with managing this team. I think he needs to dump going by anything his pitching coach is telling him and go with his own beliefs.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
A new article has been posted on www.latechsports.com:
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BATON ROUGE, La. – Despite tallying a run in each of the game's first five innings, No. 14 Louisiana Tech's offense couldn't keep pace in an 16-8 shootout loss at LSU on Tuesday night. The midweek matchup was called off in the bottom of the seventh due to thunderstorms entering the Baton Rouge area.
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2 seed won't be luck. Tech is in the tournament unless it loses 2 or more to UTSA, loses both to ODU, and doesn't get to Saturday in the conference tournament. And even then it still might make it.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
I agree that the bullpen has regressed big time since conference play started. Even guys who were reliable a few weeks ago can't get outs regularly now. And Burroughs isn't helping because sometimes his hook is almost too quick and other times the hook comes out a batter or two too late. Don't know if it's Burroughs or Silva, but they seem to rely too much on righty-righty or lefty-lefty matchups. If a pitcher can't get the ball over the plate, it doesn't matter which side of the plate the batter is on.
Tech will have big time trouble in the tournament if it loses either of its first two games.
We likely go 3-1 this weekend & split with ODU. Doubt we make it to CUSA championship game
Make regional as 2 or 3 seed. No pitching depth to win a tourney. Tonight was a preview of what tourney play is gonna look like when we have to use our bullpen
We can compete is a single game much less a tournament. Bunch of Lollygaggers!Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
We will make a regional. We won’t win a game, but we’ll make it.
Im upset but we obviously weren’t trying too hard to win this game... They know the pen sucks, yet they went with it anyway.
UTSA is very capable of splitting with us over 4 games, and ODU is damn sure capable of sweeping two games against us.Quote:
Originally Posted by BruceWillisDawg
NO WAY this LA Tech team wins the CUSA Tournament, with USM, ODU and Charlotte all in it. Tech will be very lucky just to make the Regional, and we certainly don't belong in the Top 25. Unfortunately, this team is in a free fall.
Our bullpen is a flaming heap of trash right now...
I think we will make a regional unless we go 0-2 in the CUSA tournament. Obviously, we don’t have the pitching to compete in a regional, unless our starters are super efficient and are able to give us 7-8 innings a start.
I guess there’s always the chance Tech could catch its second wind so to speak in their pitching ranks and do better for us to be somewhat competitive, but they’re clearly on life-support right now and there’s no indication that Burroughs or anybody on his coaching staff knows CPR. We’re simply at the mercy of whatever happens, happens.
Being a lifelong Tech fan has mentally prepared me for a late season collapse. It happens in every major sport we have on a regular basis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bone_afide_Dawg
Lane B. as a head coach has never taken a team into the NCAA playoffs. He failed 4 years at NSU...twice the Demons were favorites to win the auto-bid and went a combined 0-4. Whoa! He did enjoy success as a member of the staff at USM, but not as a HC. I think he, and the Dawgs, have done enough already to get at least an at-large bid. But, like many of you, I think his NCAA experience will be like his SLC tourney results...two and out!
Well, while I understand the sentiment, I have to point out that winning bowl games in football, and the MBB Dawgs this year, is hardly the stuff of a late season "collapse." No, neither represent what we hope to achieve, but neither is exactly a "collapse" either.Quote:
Originally Posted by SicemDawgz
Now...the 2021 Diamond Dawgs are not out of the woods and could experience a bona fide collapse. I certainly hope not.
Still can’t believe he pulled our starter!
Not enough time to rest between last night and Sunday. Derp! I mean, I have only been a baseball player/fan for 35 years. So I probably don’t know anything. Except that important games need to be won. I would suggest, for Tech, every game on our schedule from the start of conference to the end was crucial.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
I was fine with that because that's what he said he was going to do...limit his pitches.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
My problem was with who he put in and then who he put in and then who he put in...
Well said, well said, well said. It stuns me more times than not how Burroughs reacts to what’s going on in a game. Obviously it’s his team and he’s supposed to know better, but based on what I’ve seen, he makes me wonder by what experience he’s working from.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
On a similar subject maybe there’s someone on here who can answer something that’s a problem for me. With our pitching coach in the dugout calling pitches who’s in the bullpen seeing to it that I relievers are warming up properly and getting ready to play? Along that same line whoever this mystery man to me is, is he also calling back to the dugout to tell Burroughs that the reliever next in line is not hitting his spot or in someway isn’t ready to play. I base my questions on the fact that it seems more times than not our relievers come into the game and within 10 pitches have pretty much blown the game. So, how is the warm-up efficiency in the bullpen communicated to Burroughs to help him in his decision making? Whatever it is to this point it isn’t working and needs to be fixed. If it’s the individual players’ inabilities then that’s one thing, if it’s a flawed process then that’s something else and that something else can be quickly fixed.
Saw on the CUSA board today that some UTSA fans believe they can get a split or even possibly win 3 of 4 against Tech this weekend. The shine on this Tech team is fading fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bone_afide_Dawg
Everyone remember that the clouds move in but are always just temporary. There is sunshine down the road so lets get off this depression mood and wait for better times which are just around the corner.Quote:
Originally Posted by SicemDawgz
LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Exes&Ohs
That’s what Moses thought too.
It may have been what he said he was going to do, but he had no reason to say it in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
You’ve got your Sunday starter on a over week of rest in a big road game, with 4 days of rest before his next scheduled start. Makes no sense to limit him like that; not to mention that it also forces your shoddy bullpen to throw 7 innings in said big road game. Bullpen game was obviously in play if Sunday had gone as scheduled, but it didn’t, so he had 2+ days to figure that out. If LB had wanted to limit him to 50-60 pitches, I still would’ve disagreed but at least understood a little more.
The opportunity to use Whorff with basically no restriction in that game (and this coming Sunday) was given to LB on a silver platter, and he had no clue what to do with it. The bats did their part but LB and the bullpen let them down again.
He had EVERY reason to say it and do it. I posted exactly what was going to happen Sunday after the rainout when Whorff was mentioned as a possible starter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dowty
As important as last night's game was to many of us including me, mid-week games during conference play are discounted at least somewhat when reviewed by the selection committee. They know pitching is stretched thin and teams won't look the same as they do in conference play or will in NCAA play. Job #1 was and still is to be ready for this weekend. And the bullpen showed vividly that it wasn't ready last night.
UTSA, Old Dominion, and Charlotte have all pounded the ball in games I have watched. Southern Miss was held in check enough for Tech to win 5 of 8, but the bullpen hasn't performed as well in the last three conference series as it did up to that Southern Miss series.
Regarding Whorff, expecting more than 110-120 pitches total out of him between last night and Sunday is foolish. After 30 pitches last night, that leaves 80-90 in the bank for Sunday and that is the minimum that Tech needs him to have for UTSA.
I understand what you're saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
But in Tech's case we need to build Top 50 RPI wins. That's the bigger focus of the committee, at least over the last 10 years. The downside of splitting with UTSA isn't nearly as big as the upside of that RPI win.
And first and foremost is getting into the tournament. A win over LSU and one win in the conference tournament would get us into the field as long as we don't completely crater over the next 2 weekends.
Before Tuesday's game I think we had a path to host without having to win the conference tournament. That may not be the case anymore.
In any case, Lane agrees with me. He was on the morning drive show in Ruston yesterday and said they only pulled Whorff because they believed they would be able to have a lot of success against LSU's pullpen and he thought his own pullpen would hold.
Going into the bottom of the 3rd the game was 4-0 and with any luck would have been 6-0 or 8-0.
I don’t think the LSU game really mattered for hosting. And I’m hoping he pulled whorff because he plans on using him Saturday then Friday then Thursday since he’s our second best starter.
Wow. I can't believe he said that...actually I can. He said many times prior to and after the game that Whorff was on a pitch count. Not sure why he thought our bullpen would be strong. They haven't been since early in the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Historian
Yes, me too. Gotta have our starters in top shape because the bullpen is just throwing batting practice if you don't count all the walks.Quote:
Originally Posted by rlirette
Let me rephrase. He said had they known how the game would have played out they they would have approached how they pitched Whorff differently. The plan going in was definitely to have Whorff on a pitch count.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Let me rephrase. He said had they known how the game would have played out they they would have approached how they pitched Whorff differently. The plan going in was definitely to have Whorff on a pitch count.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
I'll add this. I was sitting behind and to the right of our dugout. LSU's team had no interest in being out there. None whatsoever. Our team came on the field with all the confidence in the world. Then when Whorff was pulled it was a 180. The body language of both teams changed.
I really believe if Whorff stayed out there this would have been a carbon copy of 2019. We would have been ahead by 8 or 10 runs when the lighning came.
I’m confused. Normally, Whorff would’ve pitched Sunday, could’ve thrown 100 pitches, and been ready to throw another 100 pitches next Sunday.
So, pitching Tuesday he still would’ve had 4 days rest. Couldn’t he have been on at least a 70-75 pitch count Tuesday to get his normal start in?
Burroughs has never had a clue about in game management of pitchers.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Historian
This is my main argument. You play to win the game in front of you. Worry about 5 days from now in 5 days. If we aren’t going to try to win, I don’t want to schedule the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
Is Philip that much better overall than Adarius Myers. I've seen enough of Philip in rf to know that the only thing he hasn't done is wave his hands and say "pull me".
Also if I'm Adarius Myers and I'm sitting behind Philip for next season then I'd enter the transfer portal.
#12 has the bat, but is definitely lacking in the field.
Parker and Steele will be gone. Matulia, McConnell and Myers should be the first line of Outfielders next year. No need to transfer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gladzilla
I don’t understand either. In Major League Baseball the norm is to pitch every fifth day (4 days rest). I was watching the Astros Tuesday (May 11) when Lance McCullers was pitching. He ended up throwing 96 pitches after having thrown 105 pitches on May 6 (4 days rest). Is there really that much difference between MLB and college in regards to pitch count/arm health.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
Never said he couldn't be a DH, and still have Myers in RF, until Steele is healthy. 12's fielding reminds me of Jmar.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
I missed Burroughs wishing he could see into the future, Lol. No shit, haha we’d all do things differently if we could see the outcome of things ahead of time. I think one of the biggest failures of coaches is trying to make their wishing how things would go come true. They’d probably be a lot better off coaching by the moment and reacting to what’s really happening. An example would be Burroughs expecting Griffen to get through a whole inning without things imploding... it’s simply not going to happen. The norms have already been established and they’re only always going to repeat themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Historian
Good point. I'd rather have our current DH as an outfielder than #12, but that does not open up a spot for Myres.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gladzilla
Speaking of Griffin, was he a completely different pitcher a couple of years ago? Was I blinded by a couple of good performances?
He is supposed to cause pop ups and ground balls, not home runs.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
So, hitting spots at the top and bottom of the zone, not piping a hanging slider.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
The only spot he’s been hitting is the sweet spot on the hitter’s bat. But we keep running him out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
Thought Griffen (note the correct spelling) had the potential to be a weekend starter or at least a middle or long reliever when he was a freshman under Ostrander and as a sophomore. But he seems to have regressed big time the last three years. If he hasn't regressed, it may be that everyone has a book on him now since this is his 5th year to play. Either way he certainly isn't fooling too many batters.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
Evidently all our relievers and even one previous starter e.g. Follis, have regressed... which doesn’t make sense and can’t be accurate. After all it’s not like there’s something in the water. It’s more like our pitching coach isn’t really a pitching coach. It has to be said, he’s the common denominator.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
Don’t make us do math.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bone_afide_Dawg
Dr. Wood sure isn't going to either.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
Read the guys bio and tell me why LB hired him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bone_afide_Dawg
Maybe because he beat Tech twice in 2018 as Little Rock’s pitching coach and everything he’s done has been at really small schools where the competition was high school level at best...
Here's your signQuote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Amen!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Exes&Ohs