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Originally Posted by Bone_afide_Dawg
And immediately the University announces it.
Seems turkey isnt the only bird being served this weekend…
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https://twitter.com/latechfb/status/...335373827?s=21Quote:
Originally Posted by Bone_afide_Dawg
And immediately the University announces it.
Seems turkey isnt the only bird being served this weekend…
Wow!
Information repeated on the first hour of the Sports Company live from New Orleans if you can hear it despite the nonexistent engineering at the remote site.
Sending a coach packing without having to pay a big buyout - now, that right there is a novel approach. But, then, I am not that well versed in such things. Perhaps it happens a lot, but it seems like most HCs leave before a contract is up - one way or the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by BhadDawg
The one player I think any school would snap up in a heartbeat is Tyler Grubbs - and I hope like everything he doesn't decide to transfer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bone_afide_Dawg
I hope he at least waits until a HC is named and possibly till DC is named, and I think he is smart enough to do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg Fan
If I was player, I would attend the winter quarter, book the hours to a degree and make the decision during the quarter. If leaving, use the winter quarter to line up your new home and take the spring quarter off and start working out at your new home in the summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by BhadDawg
Boy, when Dykes gets a new job he really moves on huh? Who could have seen that coming?
Looks like maybe we'll be seeing a little more of the opposing coach from the 2008 Independence Bowl.
Orlando Sentinel article on Florida's Napier hire
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/spor...2ha-story.html
ULL just leapfrogged Tech in the football head coaching search with their coach leaving since they pay better. Tech better wake up and pay more before they get passed up for good. This is one of those investment type situations where you pay more ahead to In order to reap the rewards later.
Lincoln Riley to USC
https://theathletic.com/news/lincoln.../ZMDuV3D0xjS8/
Everyone saw this one coming. Well maybe not everyone, some thought he was going to LSU. :icon_roll: Will be interesting to see how ULaLa's season plays out now. And, if the get it (hiring a coach) right again.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Historian
Nobody saw this one coming. I guess Lincoln wasn't too excited about coaching Oklahoma in the sec. At least he wasn't lying about not coaching LSU. Bobby Stoops coaching bowl game. Anybody know what Jimbo has to pay A&M if he leaves for LSU? It's $0.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amos Moses
No one in Tech admin since FJ Taylor has been able to grasp the significance of your last sentence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bone_afide_Dawg
This is so funny. The LSU forum idiots were celebrating Lincoln coming to LSU Friday/Saturday. Someone needs to tell them that a lot of coaches don’t want to live in a shit hole like BR.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bulldog Tom
Not too mention.... LSU fired two coaches who won national championships. Plus the weather in southern California is pretty nice. And, the Pac 10 competition is much easier. Wonder if LSU knows Skip is available, you know he won six bowl games in a row. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by glm47
I saw where HC Broderick Fobbs got the heave-ho from Grambling.
Ya know...:icon_roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg Fan
I don't really know anything about Fobbs, what is his strong suit? He already lives here, and assistant perhaps, always heard good things about him.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
He was just fired. That's all that needs to be known.Quote:
Originally Posted by BhadDawg
Exactly! 15-21 in the last 4 years. 3-11 in the last two.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
Even the mention of his name is pure nonsense.
Skip Holtz to Temple?
He's coached up there in the NE before (at UConn). I bet they'd like to go to 7 bowls in a row (legitimately).Quote:
Originally Posted by revf
Does that mean we'd have to pay him less if he gets a job right away?Quote:
Originally Posted by revf
Rich Rod to Jacksonville St
If they were in CUSA they could go 7 bowl in a row.Quote:
Originally Posted by inudesu
You seen the new AAC? They are in CUSA. At least, they're about to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
You should ask Tech52 about this. He still thinks Holtz is the cat's meow, and he's been defending Holtz to the end. Surely if Holtz was hat good, someone else would want him.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
I hope LA Tech doesn't end up regretting this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Dawg
NopeQuote:
Originally Posted by kfj
I have not, some of you just can’t stop being hyperbolic. Please, point out anywhere that I have said “Holtz should still be here” since his firing announcement.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
You all just act like weve been dealing with a Chad Morris/Arkansas situation over a period of 20 years.
The OU president with his "I wish we'd had some more notice" comments. . .Quote:
Originally Posted by Amos Moses
Talk about some stones. The Big 12 would like a word pal.
Nothing brings out the hypocrisy in college sports like realignment and the coaching carousel. You could set your clock to it -
"It's just unfair and bad for the sport for one conference to steal from another" (raids the next smallest fish in the pond)
"I just feel bad for these kids that he looked in the eye and recruited that must feel so shaken" (don't mention that the coach we're about to hire would have done the same thing)
"I can't believe these kids and their lack of commitment, they should have committed to the school not the coach" (happy to accept the guys from the new coach's old school or pick up pieces from some unrelated school when they have a coaching change)
I agree. The hypocrisy is incredible.Quote:
Originally Posted by inudesu
I still say, Lincoln Riley is getting out while the getting is good. He knows OU has almost no chance of winning the SEC West against Bama, LSU, TX A&M, etc....every year in the new SEC, so he's splitting town while he can. And Riley got a good job too, in a conference he knows he can dominate. This is a VERY astute move for Lincoln Riley. He outsmarted them all, and will parlay his success at OU into generational money at USC. Hey, there's nothing wrong with living near the beach either. :laugh:
All this conference realignment mayhem is on them and Texas, so I have no sympathy for either schoolQuote:
Originally Posted by inudesu
Exactly! I see them both in the mid-bottom of the west...below Arkansas and A&M. That will be wonderful!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tech52
I’ve heard a lot of folks say that…I think y’all are nuts. OU is a top 5 program all-time. If BAMA moves to the East, OU will be the favorite to win the West more often than not. Can’t believe some folks still buy the Jimbo hype. He’s an 8-4 guy for $9.5 mil per year!Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Could be, but I'll root for for every team in the west other than lsu to beat Texas and OU.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
I can't imagine more wasted resources that Texas.
Looks like Brian Kelly to LSU.
ND now on the clock.
Hey! Good timing for Skip. He can go home.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
That's correct, and another glaring flaw in the contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tech77
I don't mind paying the remaining part of the current year of salary owed through June 30 regardless of employment status. But any coach fired for cause who gets another job by the July 1 following being fired should not get paid one additional cent for time beyond that June 30 date.
You could be right. However, I have to wonder how OU and Texas will perform when they have to play Auburn, lsu, Bama, Georgia, and Ole Miss. Miss State, Arkansas, and Kentucky aren’t pushovers every year. OU got punched in the mouth 2 times this year by a good Baylor team and a very good OSU team and lost both times. With what was supposed to be a top 10 team. How will that go for them when 6-7 games a year are that tough?Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Exactly why Riley took the money and ran for USC. Much easier to get into the playoff from there than it would be at Oklahoma in the SEC West. Even if Alabama and Auburn get moved to the SEC East.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
Who does Notre Dame hire?
Fickell?
The guy at Pitt?
Promote the DC?
Go legacy: Holtz? 🤣
Who does Tech hire? I really don't care about them except for conversation around the water cooler...but who is going to be the next Tech hire?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad
Wow! (same reaction Skippy had) on Brian Kelly to LSU. He's going from the BEST college football program in the nation to a football factory, give-the-devil-his-due program. Yes, at LSU he will get NFLers willing to make a short stop to play a little college football. He will get 6-star recruits (yes, I said "6" better than the run-of-the-mill 5's other schools get) and he will have a chance, if he can beat Bama, to play for an SEC championship and thus a lock for the CFP every season. There are no academic, moral, ethical standards at LSU that will hinder his recruiting.
When I say Notre Dame is the BEST college football program in the nation, I don't mean just "on the field." That title belongs to Bama and there are others hovering just around and below them, like Ohio State, Clemson, Georgia, and a few others. ND is the BEST because of their standards and history, tradition and keeping in place what is truly important, football players are STUDENT-athletes.
So, if you are a football coach who longs to play for national championships, to test your mettle vs. Nick Saban and coaches like him, Notre Dame is a tough place to do that. That is why Brian Kelly, the football coach, is heading to LSU. I understand that aspect of it. Kelly has done well at ND....and all you haters can stick it...and I hope ND never changes. Keep the high standards for true STUDENT-athletes and do the best you can.
One thing is for sure, Brian Kelly is in for culture shock!
On the Texas and OU move - first I will say I don't like either one of them. After that statement, though, I think they will be fine in the SEC a couple of years after they officially start in the conference. They will be able to recruit the best with the SEC name. I do not think they will be competitive right away, though.
Personally I hope Texas fails miserably, though.
aTm has always been pretty good in football, and that's what they are today...pretty good. Mizzou has always been BLAH! in football, and that's what they are. Neither has realized a bounty moving to the SEC. I see no changes for UT and OU. In fact, I predict a Nebraska-like fall into the abyss for both programs. Keep in mind traditions and loyalty and where high school kids want to play, and why they want to play there. Like Nebraska, UT and OU, are severing the connections to those traditions and kids who might have loved to play there for the old Big 12/SWC legacy, may not want to play in the SEC.Quote:
Originally Posted by champion110
Texas/OU caused all the conference realignment fallout crap we have now. I hope they lose, lose, and lose some more.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Going to the SEC where they both will be middle of the pack teams is the perfect way to end all your actual historic rivalries in Texas, the SWC, and the Big-12. I’ve talked to actual alums from Texas. Not one of them thought this was a good move. In the Big-12, Texas was the premiere school. In the SEC, they aren’t even close to the top.
I hope the SEC becomes too big and unwieldy for its own good. They think they are the NCAA and they are riding the high horse now. Bringing them down a few notches is what college athletics needs.
LSU AD Scott Woodward loves spending other people’s money. At $10M/year for 10 years, he overpaid for Kelly. USA Today says Kelly’s base at ND was $2.7M. But even if he had incentives that got him up to $4M-$5M, LSU paid too much.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Woodward is also the guy that brought Jimbo to A&M.
Wow. Thats significant pay bump. Almost criminal to be able to throw money around that easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
You might want to get familiar with Sonny Cumbie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lotsudo
John Grass may be a fall back.
The Edge reporting from sources that Sonny Cumbie will changing Tech's...from Texas Tech to Louisiana Tech.
Quick check shows that his 2021 salary in Lubbock was $875K. So the rumored $1M salary would be right at what he was making at TCU in 2020 before taking a pay cut to go back to Texas Tech.
I like Cumbie. Just say know to recently fired FCS coaches.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
Know your homonyms.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
I don't want to get to know recently fired FCS coaches. I want to just say no.
Back on topic, I say YES to Cumbie. He is from the right mold.
I don't know him personally although we've spoken a couple of times, I've probably had a couple more conversations with his wife than with him. Our kids went to pre-school together and were buddies when he was at TCU. I think my wife taught his older son. Seems like a good dude. Good coaching tree. Will be a good fit in Ruston. Have to assume he'd want to go back to his Air Raid roots (even though under Patterson and Wells defense was the main show).Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
I'd be happy with this one.
I was happy for them when it was announced that he'd get to stay on at the other Tech, but I had also assumed that meant he'd stay there.
Ha! The bane of my existence.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
HEY! What did you just call me?!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
I'm sure OU will be fine. Texas loss to Kansas at home, and the arrogant fans still think people should bow to them. Both teams have moved ahead of LSU in be wanting them to lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
I read that his wife has a doctorate in Marriage and Family Counseling, which might seem irrelevant but I don't think so. A significant aspect of that type of counseling is understanding systems and how they interact. It could be very helpful in terms of how he operates.Quote:
Originally Posted by inudesu
Yep. That's why Lincoln Riley is getting out while he still has some street value. :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
It could be argued that ESPN and Texas caused it by creating the Longhorn Network.Quote:
Originally Posted by revf
Akron seems to be punching above their weight in what they've got lined up for next HC.
Well how far down the rabbit hole you want to go? I'd submit that the LHN was inspired by ND's deal with NBC 20 years prior. Which had in turn arose from the CFA-NCAA tv disputes in the 1980s. Which had itself come about from the NCAA's original decision to claim the media rights for all its members going back to the dawn of television.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
We didnt start the fire ...
I blame Teddy Roosevelt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Champ967
This might be a good site to follow to see who Cumbie hires for his staff: https://footballscoop.com/news/louis...racker-2021-22 I am guessing it is unlikely many (if any) of Holtz's staff will stay. John Allen is going to UConn to be on Jim Mora's staff.
Didn’t see this one coming.
https://footballscoop.com/news/bronc...-down-virginia
Kelly leaving Presbyterian.
Would have been interesting to see that approach after a few years of implementation. Oh well, maybe he didn't want to recruit after such a bad first season. Wonder if he'll head back to high school level.
Nobody saw him taking that job when he took it either. He is built a little different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad
ull promotes OC to Head Coach. Michael Desormeaux.
https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...aux-head-coach
Don't know a thing about him, but he's got the right name to coach ragin cajuns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amos Moses
They sore more?
Venables to Oklahoma.
https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...ch-sources-say
Not the OC, but the Co-OC. Only one year in that position. He is 36 years-old. Six years college coaching experience, all at ULaLa. Spent his entire coaching career in Lafayette and Iberia Parishes, half that time in high school. Guess we will see if Billy Napier develops coaches. I think we have the much better and more qualified coach!Quote:
Originally Posted by Amos Moses
Time will tell if it was a good hire or not, but it feels like a lazy hire. I don't guess it makes much difference. They had the best year in ULL history, and they are rewarded with....The New Orleans Bowl :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bulldog Tom
This was a different hire for the Cajuns than previous hires. This time Lafayette did not need to hire a coach to fix or change the system. The Cajuns wanted someone to maintain the system and success of the program. Desormeaux worked for Napier all four years he was in Lafayette and was highly recommended by Napier for the job and the team is apparently thrilled that he is their new HC. Time will tell if he is a good hire or not.
Congratulations on a great year. Y'all had lightning in a bottle with Napier, and him coming back to coach the championship was a class act. You don't find that kind of character much these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunDave1
Wow very fast response. You monitor Tech's message more than all of our fans saved for about five or six retired Bulldog fans. Does your school have a message board?Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunDave1
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...cid=uxbndlbing
Here's a prospective OC
Or just a QB whisperer!
He is probably looking for something bigger than CUSA 17.0, But if he would stay 3-4 years I would be for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lotsudo
Venables on the ground in Norman. Lebby expected to be the OU OC.
Manny finally gets an answer after being left hanging so long (he'll be pretty well compensated for it, and I doubt he'll get a lot of sympathy from Temple fans).
Maybe he'd like to spend another year or two in Ruston?
Wow this must have just happened. No matter what he is due he should be paid double for the classless way Miami handled this.Quote:
Originally Posted by inudesu
That coaching record doesn't sound very good to me. If I was a ULL fan, I'd be very concerned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bulldog Tom
And THAT'S the problem with the Sunbelt.Quote:
Originally Posted by SicemDawgz
That what Southern Miss said in 2012 when they promoted DC Ellis Johnson to replace Larry Fedora .....and USM promptly went form 12-2 in 2011 to an 0-12 record in 2012. :laugh: And USM has never been the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunDave1
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Originally Posted by Bulldog Tom
As expected.Quote:
Originally Posted by inudesu
https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...s-coaching-job
Congratulations on a great couple of seasons with Napier. I think he was exactly the shot-in-the-arm y'all needed to get things rolling. I get the impression that Cajun fans' opinions are mixed on this hire. Understandably. Of course nobody can predict the future (don't WE know it?)...but Napier's vote weighed heavily in this decision, so there's that.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunDave1
Temple does have an opening though. . .Quote:
Originally Posted by inudesu
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Originally Posted by SicemDawgz
I don't care that ULL got screwed, but looking at it objectively, they got screwed, and illustrates everything that is wrong with the current bowl system and these conference tie-ins. Marshall is 7-5 and struggled to get there. I think a team like ULL, 12-1 and ranked, should be placed in a better bowl, or at least against a better opponent. BYU also got the shaft.
I know we don't like to admit it, but the P5 offers more attractive opponents, especially for bowls. Maybe ULL should have been able to play someone like any of the 6-6 teams like a Virginia Tech, Auburn or...drum roll, please...LSU! Some might poo-pooh the notion of playing a 6-6 P5er, but our bowl wins over Illinois and Miami are very satisfying.
The whole reason for all the extra bowl games is to make P5-G5 matchups very rare.
Exactly!Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Tceh's hire compared to ULL's hire debunked the assumption that ULL leapfrogged Tech.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bone_afide_Dawg
ESPN graded Cumbie's hire as a B+ compared to a B for the ULL hire.
I don’t recommend looking at how those coaching hire grades tend to age hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
First impressions are everything. Right now the Tech trajectory is up, and the ULL trajectory is no better than flat. That could easily change, but it is what it is right now. And recruits see that.Quote:
Originally Posted by thewyldman
It is a problem, but it is a temporary one. This will be remedied in a couple years when bowl contracts expire. If you think the Sun Belt’s tie in’s are bad, just wait until you see post realignment C-USA’s.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
To paraphrase our AD, the last coaching change he made was because something was broken at UL. This time, nothing is broken. Far from it. So it would be a huge mistake to look outside the program and bring in a completely different person with a completely different philosophy. We want to keep a good thing going, which is why it makes sense to hire a guy who intimately knows the process that allowed us to get here in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
Napier recommended him. Maggard hired him. Time will tell how things pan out, but if those two believe in him, I should too.
It might work out, but it just seems like a lazy hire from the outside looking in. I guess you’ll find out in a couple of years.Quote:
Originally Posted by GEAUX UL
That’s on ESPN not the conferences. If they wanted ULL in one of “their” bowls, they would have been in one.Quote:
Originally Posted by GEAUX UL
Won't take long to travel the "Lincoln Riley Highway" in Oklahoma if this bill passes. If this goes through you will need to be in the correct lane or you will miss it. ROTFLMAO.
Oklahoma senator proposes 'appropriate goodbye' to new USC football coach with Lincoln Riley Highway (espn.com)