You and a lot of other peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
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You and a lot of other peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
Maybe we're seeing the end of the world as we know it. Ya know, there's a lot of unintended consequences that can come from dire situations like this. With forced "on-line learning" due to COVID restrictions, absurdly high tuition costs, zero "on-campus" social experiences and a serious lack of tax revenue at the state and local government level due to CoronaVirus to pay for everything, public colleges may find themselves at risk of being a luxury of the past. State governments may decide --or may be forced due to lack of tax revenue-- to get out of the "college" business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Dawg
We all love LA Tech. That's why we're here. And for most of us, attending Tech was a wonderful experience in our life. But things are changing. I know for a fact that most of the high tech companies who are doing all the hiring are much less concerned with where your degree came from than they are your professional certifications, your progress and your specializations. These companies --some of which are the largest in the world (think Amazon, Google, Microsoft, major defense contractors, Big Pharma, etc...) are happy to pay for your professional certs and other professional ed needs. Most have classroom environments on their campuses that are 10X better and more intense than a typical college classroom. And these classes are being taught by young engineering professionals, experienced finance professionals and others who are DOING IT EVERY DAY, and live on the bleeding edge of technology & change. Imagine this environment, as opposed to some tired, old, tenured, liberal, college professor who hasn't worked in the his chosen field for 15 years, and is only interested in espousing his socialism beliefs to a captive audience of young people 3 times a week.
Fact is, most of these companies would prefer to build and train you like they want, so they can employ you and hopefully earn your job loyalty. With this in mind, why would a student who has a choice, choose to pay (or borrow with student loans) 100K to 200K to get a "dinosaur" education and no guaranteed job? At some point people have to ask themselves, is the old school college model really working? I'm concerned that it's not, and people are finally waking up to it. After this COVID experience, I think we're going to see major changes in higher education, and how we prepare people for employment.
The college bubble has been poised to burst for a long time. I would not be surprised at all if COVID is the needle that pops the bubble.
Men and women that are skilled in a trade, such as Plumbers, Carpenters, Electricians, HVAC Techs, etc., are making more money than many with $100,000.00+ college degrees. Of course, one has to actually be willing to work to earn a living.
Damn! there is always a catch.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunDave1
Both of my kids are getting 4 year degrees from Collin College. The amount of money this has saved me is incalculable. One is going to go to grad school at UTD, don't yet know what the other one will do.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
I can't tell you how many programmers I meet that do not have a technical degree. Business cares about your resume, only.
Job training was never the purpose of a university education.
Going to college so you can get a job is like buying an airplane to drive yourself to work.
It will be pure arse politics that bursts it.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Nope. Greed burst it. You can’t sustain raising your prices 3x inflation for decades.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
That too yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
That too yes. And funded a huge part by the state and federal governments out of our hard earned pay checks/taxes. And mishandled obviously via stupid government programs and incompetent university ADM in Louisiana at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
State funding for higher education has been radically reduced since the last financial crisis. Non-coincidentally, tuition has gone up dramatically since then.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
https://www.cbpp.org/research/state-...ts-to-students
In Louisiana state funding of universities is down to 17% of a school's overall operating budget. BUT! the state invoices schools in a reapportionment measure, such that most of that 17% is returned to the state. I'm not sure what the details are in determining how much that might be. Heard last night that Nicholls State got itself in such a bind that it was repaying 102%. It was costing them to get the state funding!
Yes, last night, we went to a small social gathering where everyone else there are employed by NSU. After the adult beverages kicked in tongues got loose and there was talk of school and state budgets, etc...
Universities get slashed.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Tuition goes up.
TOPS is fully funded.
Repeat.
Universities are just using a different color of money now, sadly.
Michigan State going online.Quote:
Originally Posted by faninmonroe