Re: Serious Conference Realignment Discussion
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Originally Posted by
kfj
We're pretty much screwed. How much does the SBC hate us (or how much have we pissed them off over the years) to take a FCS school over us:
https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/college-football/conference-realignment-sun-belt-reportedly-adding-4-new-members/
So, who's left with out a conference? Tech, WKU, FIU, UTEP, and MTSU, plus the independents, Liberty, Army, UMass, UConn and NMSU. What a misfit collection of misfits.
Enough with the "pissed them off" nonsense. How about they are AFRAID of LA Tech. It's true. ULALA is sitting on top of the world right now because they can wipe their butt every week with the faces of Sunbelt schools. That's such a shitty conference even Appy St was blown out by a sorry azz ULALA team.
The last thing ULL wants is to let LA Tech in the door and change everything by whipping ULL's azzz routinely. Oh sure, they tell you everybody in the SBC is "angry at Tech" for being mean to 'em.......whatever the hell that's supposed to mean, but they damn sure don't want you crashing their SBC party, because they've got it made right now. Make no mistake: They FEAR LA Tech.
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Re: Serious Conference Realignment Discussion
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Originally Posted by
kfj
I bet the SBC would take McNeese or SELU before they took us. The administration has burned every damn bridge.
That's Bullshit. Grow up. Nobody's that petty, because it can come back around at a later date and burn them too! See my post above. ULALA fans just tell you that because they are scared as hell of LA Tech.
Re: Serious Conference Realignment Discussion
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Originally Posted by
HogDawg
That's Bullshit. Grow up. Nobody's that petty, because it can come back around at a later date and burn them too! See my post above. ULALA fans just tell you that because they are scared as hell of LA Tech.
They obviously aren’t scared of us. They invite their recruits to watch them beat us……oh…….
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Originally Posted by
techman05
They obviously aren’t scared of us. They invite their recruits to watch them beat us……oh…….
�� that was some funny stuff right there. Talk about arrogant
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At the very least it’s not helpful to keep up the trash talking, and it just attracts the sort of posts from fans of other schools that many of our people have been complaining about.
I agree with those that say if we could get in the Sunbelt that would be the best we could do for the foreseeable future. It would also be good for the Sunbelt. The Sunbelt will be better than the AAC in most every way.
If we are not going to get that invitation we will just need to do the very best we can. Win some conference championships, for Pete’s sake. Make it back to the Big Dance. There is a lot of potential in some of the FCS schools being mentioned, like Sam Houston and Missouri State. We will just need to be the best we can be and demand better leadership from the conference office.
Re: Serious Conference Realignment Discussion
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Originally Posted by
HogDawg
That's Bullshit. Grow up. Nobody's that petty, because it can come back around at a later date and burn them too! See my post above. ULALA fans just tell you that because they are scared as hell of LA Tech.
…..Res Ipsa loquitor……LT has a loosing record and got beaten quite badly in the last bowl game by a mid Sunbelt school……the cusa has for 3 years been ranked the lowest in our football division level……the coach has a extended contract and the fan base wants him gone…..unfortunately, your former AD’s arrogance and pompous remarks still lend a negative characteristic image to your school…..not sure of the future of your program, but in the negative competitive recruiting wars I think it will be rough going for Tech!
Re: Serious Conference Realignment Discussion
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Originally Posted by
HogDawg
Enough with the "pissed them off" nonsense. How about they are AFRAID of LA Tech. It's true. ULALA is sitting on top of the world right now because they can wipe their butt every week with the faces of Sunbelt schools. That's such a shitty conference even Appy St was blown out by a sorry azz ULALA team.
The last thing ULL wants is to let LA Tech in the door and change everything by whipping ULL's azzz routinely. Oh sure, they tell you everybody in the SBC is "angry at Tech" for being mean to 'em.......whatever the hell that's supposed to mean, but they damn sure don't want you crashing their SBC party, because they've got it made right now. Make no mistake: They FEAR LA Tech.
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THIS! As for where we should or could go, I still hope our push is for something better than the belt. Yes, they will be better with some additions, but they are NOT a long term goal. We will be pulled down into the ULL/ULM group and that will just make it harder to break out again. Honestly, I would rather go Indy in football and get ourselves another conference just for basketball. I know it doesn't seem financially viable to go Independent, but if we could get serious about our coaching in football and start winning again - it could be much better than the belt, even if we had to give up some money for a while. We seemed to do well our first year in FBS with money games, which gave us some opportunities.
Re: Serious Conference Realignment Discussion
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Originally Posted by
johnnylightnin
Or…we try to save CUSA, but the MAC (ESPN) swoops in and steals WKU and MTSU. We’re left with no conference and no buy-out.
If we CAN get into the Belt, we have to.
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johnnylightnin
And if JMU can’t get legislative support for moving up?
Why the infatuation with JMU when they could have WKU or Middle? Are those two as hated as us?
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Originally Posted by
PawDawg
Why the infatuation with JMU when they could have WKU or Middle? Are those two as hated as us?
Not sure. I guess it’s possible that the Belt is still sore about them leaving for CUSA.
Who knows? WKU and Tech are the best overall programs on the outside looking in. MTSU has been there before, but they’ve fallen on hard times for some reason.
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Originally Posted by
PawDawg
Why the infatuation with JMU when they could have WKU or Middle? Are those two as hated as us?
They have a massive budget. In my opinion, probably too big. From a money standpoint their huge $ advantage over many of the conference schools could actually end up
being a problem. And, yes, there is likely some hard feelings toward former Belt schools that left for what those schools saw as greener pastures. … Things have gone well for the Sunbelt with their FCS additions and their TV contract. They are in a good position.
Re: Serious Conference Realignment Discussion
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Champ967
Hold on -- If UALR & UTA really are in play, then why not add the northeastern FBS indies for football only?
TECH
WKU
FIU
MTSU
UTEP
NMSU
Liberty (??)
UTA (non-fball)
UALR (non-fball)
Army (fball only)
UConn (fball only)
UMass (fball only)
That's 9 bball, 10 football. Even without Liberty, it's still enough. (barely)
It would be held together with duct tape and chewing gum. But it's something.
You have to have 8 “full” members. So if NMSU makes six we would need two more of those. If the Aggies only want to join for football we need 3 more “fulls.”
I do like the idea of adding Little Rock and UTA for Olympic sports if it works out. That would give Tech two solid, drivable opponents for basketball and baseball.
Re: Serious Conference Realignment Discussion
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Originally Posted by
exflash
…..Res Ipsa loquitor……LT has a loosing record and got beaten quite badly in the last bowl game by a mid Sunbelt school……the cusa has for 3 years been ranked the lowest in our football division level……the coach has a extended contract and the fan base wants him gone…..unfortunately, your former AD’s arrogance and pompous remarks still lend a negative characteristic image to your school…..not sure of the future of your program, but in the negative competitive recruiting wars I think it will be rough going for Tech!
Do you realize that last year's NO Bowl loss to a Sunbelt team was LA Tech's VERY FIRST LOSS to a Sunbelt team? EVER? And it was in a COVID year when Tech had several starters sitting out and "opting" out of play. LOL!! You gotta do better than that arsehole. :laugh:
Oh....and enough about our former AD. He didn't say a damn thing that wasn't 100% true. Go back and listen to the clip and tell me what you have trouble with. You and I can re-engage the subject after you tell me what he said that hurt your feelings. ;)
Re: Serious Conference Realignment Discussion
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Originally Posted by
PawDawg
Why the infatuation with JMU when they could have WKU or Middle? Are those two as hated as us?
The "petty" Sunbelt is angry at those two because they chose to LEAVE the Belt for CUSA back in 2013. The pettiness of these Sunbelt people is truly astounding. You can't run any business like that.
Here's the bottom line: Once in the Sunbelt, ALWAYS be in the Sunbelt. It's the "Hotel California" of football conferences. ("You can check out any time you like, but you can NEVER leave".) ULALA and ULM are great examples of this. They've never been anywhere, and they are never going anywhere. For ULL, this is as good as it gets.
If the Sunbelt Conference is what you really want, then get on over there, and get lost in weak football and poor basketball. Otherwise, stay in CUSA, take the Exit fee MILLIONS, and win a few conference championships. Sure, it will be a little wonky. But, in the meantime, you can try to build something new, or just get paid to bide your time until something better comes along.
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I really don’t think we have any options available to us except whether to stay in CUSA and help rebuild it or go Independent. And to me, that’s no choice at all. We don’t have the money to be Independent, and scheduling would be an absolute nightmare.
Re: Serious Conference Realignment Discussion
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Originally Posted by
HogDawg
The "petty" Sunbelt is angry at those two because they chose to LEAVE the Belt for CUSA back in 2013. The pettiness of these Sunbelt people is truly astounding. You can't run any business like that.
Here's the bottom line: Once in the Sunbelt, ALWAYS be in the Sunbelt. It's the "Hotel California" of football conferences. ("You can check out any time you like, but you can NEVER leave".) ULALA and ULM are great examples of this. They've never been anywhere, and they are never going anywhere. For ULL, this is as good as it gets.
If the Sunbelt Conference is what you really want, then get on over there, and get lost in weak football and poor basketball. Otherwise, stay in CUSA, take the Exit fee MILLIONS, and win a few conference championships. Sure, it will be a little wonky. But, in the meantime, you can try to build something new, or just get paid to bide your time until something better comes along.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtGxusvUT3k
