Re: What are the chances we retain these three individuals for next season?
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T1
This is also why Head Coaches don't want to stay at places like Tech.... it's harder to keep a good staff together.
What does that even mean? We've never lost a head coach because he could not keep his staff in place. Nobody "like Tech" can keep a head coach unless you want to compare us to LaLaff. As you know they are not keeping their HC because they pay him big or because he has kept his staff in place.
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T1
I'm tired of it!
As it has always been, it is a good problem. It means we are winning.
Again, throwing good money at the situation like giving our DC a raise or the silly money we threw at Dykes/Franklin won't help our cause UNLESS we are setting the bar higher for salaries. The money we bumped Mike White and staff last year was a good move, but even that wasn't enough to keep two of his assistants in place.
Re: What are the chances we retain these three individuals for next season?
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maddawg
What does that even mean?
It means that a head coach is more likely to keep his staff together if he has the money to pay them. Dan Mullens has a better opportunity to succeed than Skip Holtz because he has more money. Skip Holtz would love to have Dan Mullens' job because he would be more likely to succeed there because he would have more money to pay assistants. Tech is a tougher job than Mississippi State because if you get a good assistant, almost anyone can take him from us (we even lost Petey Perot to Southern Miss one time). If a coach gets a chance to go to a school that has more money, he's gone because it makes his job easier.
Re: What are the chances we retain these three individuals for next season?
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T1
It means that a head coach is more likely to keep his staff together if he has the money to pay them. Dan Mullens has a better opportunity to succeed than Skip Holtz because he has more money. Skip Holtz would love to have Dan Mullens' job because he would be more likely to succeed there because he would have more money to pay assistants. Tech is a tougher job than Mississippi State because if you get a good assistant, almost anyone can take him from us (we even lost Petey Perot to Southern Miss one time). If a coach gets a chance to go to a school that has more money, he's gone because it makes his job easier.
Comparing us to Miss.State...come on man. Give me an example of a school "like Tech". There are none. If a P5 school wants an assistant from a G5 they will get him. NOTHING you can do about it money wise.
Re: What are the chances we retain these three individuals for next season?
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maddawg
Comparing us to Miss.State...come on man. Give me an example of a school "like Tech". There are none. If a P5 school wants an assistant from a G5 they will get him. NOTHING you can do about it money wise.
By "like Tech", I mean most of the G5 schools.
Re: What are the chances we retain these three individuals for next season?
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T1
By "like Tech", I mean most of the G5 schools.
Okay. Example of a school that is able to do what you describe...throw money at assistants and keep them in place?
Re: What are the chances we retain these three individuals for next season?
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maddawg
Okay. Example of a school that is able to do what you describe...throw money at assistants and keep them in place?
I don't think we are talking about the same thing. I was just saying a big reason why our successful head coaches are going to leave is because it is so hard to keep good assistants here. I don't think we can outspend P5 schools either. An assistant as good as Manny does deserve as much money as we can afford though. He's really good. But the most we can afford is still chump change.
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Gibbs ain't coming here, his wife hated Ruston
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Coaches are going to leave for one reason- to make more money for their family. Nothing wrong with that.
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DogsWin
Coaches are going to leave for one reason- to make more money for their family. Nothing wrong with that.
Yep...
To think otherwise is insanity
Re: What are the chances we retain these three individuals for next season?
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T1
I don't think we are talking about the same thing. I was just saying a big reason why our successful head coaches are going to leave is because it is so hard to keep good assistants here..
I understood what you said. I asked for an example of ANY G5 school who is doing what you describe.
So you think we should pay him more even though it won't help in keeping him here? Did you vote for Obama?;)
Re: What are the chances we retain these three individuals for next season?
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maddawg
I understood what you said. I asked for an example of ANY G5 school who is doing what you describe.
So you think we should pay him more even though it won't help in keeping him here? Did you vote for Obama?;)
I think he's worth more than we are paying him and that's why he will be leaving us shortly. (capitalism, baby)
Re: What are the chances we retain these three individuals for next season?
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T1
I think he's worth more than we are paying him and that's why he will be leaving us shortly. (capitalism, baby)
Good grief man! If we were paying him $400K he would be leaving for what ANY P5 is willing to pay.
Again, it is silly to think we can play this game.
Re: What are the chances we retain these three individuals for next season?
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maddawg
Good grief man! If we were paying him $400K he would be leaving for what ANY P5 is willing to pay.
Again, it is silly to think we can play this game.
Again... I think we are agreeing here. I'm not sure what you think I am trying to say, but it is what you just said. This makes it tough on a head coach... and that's why they bolt from Tech first chance they get.
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T1
... and that's why they bolt from Tech first chance they get.
No that is not the reason they bolt. They bolt for more money and to take the next step in their career.
It's a good problem to have. Compare it to the lack of a problem with had last year at this time.
Re: What are the chances we retain these three individuals for next season?
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maddawg
No that is not the reason they bolt. They bolt for more money and to take the next step in their career.
It's a good problem to have. Compare it to the lack of a problem with had last year at this time.
Agree, I've just wondered if someone successful will ever stay and build a good program here, but this is another big reason why they won't.
