President Trump

It sounds like your “present day scholars” have a political agenda. Like I said, they have demonstrated that you cannot trust them.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

So the meaning is that anybody able to cross the border becomes naturalized when they make it across?

This is not about the children, but just like last time, the children are the main focus. I know you see the irony of those in favor of open borders being concerned about the children.

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How are you getting that?

Someone that is only in the US because they crossed our border is not “born or naturalized in the United States.”

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

So the meaning is that anybody able to cross the border becomes naturalized when they make it across?

This is not about the children, but just like last time, the children are the main focus. I know you see the irony of those in favor of open borders being concerned about the children.

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This is meant for you, and suggest that our resident libs on this forum not read the following...

there was a Constitutional scholar on TV last night, either Tucker or Hannity, can't remember which, and he cited some on-going issues with the 14th as it is currently interpreted. Pregnant women from all over the world, with the help of some lib domestic organization, when in their 8th month, late, are flown in to any US city...seems Miami is a favorite destination, probably because the local chapter of this lib organization is very active...they have their baby, and bingo! that baby is a US citizen, and then mother and child fly home. This is most prevalent with Chinese and Russians. Putin is helping to fund this from his end for his folks.

This is an exploitation of the 14th Amendment, at best. Should be down right illegal.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

How are you getting that?

Someone that is only in the US because they crossed our border is not “born or naturalized in the United States.”

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I'm questioning the socialist argument that not allowing those in the caravan (being paid for by our enemies) is somehow going against the 14th amendment.

Are you opposed to protecting our borders. Do you not see this group as a threat?

I believe your answer will be that these people are seeking asylum. Which you know is total BS.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

I'm questioning the socialist argument that not allowing those in the caravan (being paid for by our enemies) is somehow going against the 14th amendment.

Are you opposed to protecting our borders. Do you not see this group as a threat?

I believe your answer will be that these people are seeking asylum. Which you know is total BS.

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I agree with defending our borders; however, no one except for paranoid people see this caravan as a threat. They are still about a thousand miles away and we know where they are.

It is the racists that live in our country currently that are the eminent threat. They are the ones actually killing people.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

This is meant for you, and suggest that our resident libs on this forum not read the following...

there was a Constitutional scholar on TV last night, either Tucker or Hannity, can't remember which, and he cited some on-going issues with the 14th as it is currently interpreted. Pregnant women from all over the world, with the help of some lib domestic organization, when in their 8th month, late, are flown in to any US city...seems Miami is a favorite destination, probably because the local chapter of this lib organization is very active...they have their baby, and bingo! that baby is a US citizen, and then mother and child fly home. This is most prevalent with Chinese and Russians. Putin is helping to fund this from his end for his folks.

This is an exploitation of the 14th Amendment, at best. Should be down right illegal.

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It is the Russians and Trump should know because they are staying in his hotels and condos in Miami.

https://southfloridareporter.com/tru...mi-give-birth/

But that is pretty damn authoritarian to say that exploiting Constitutional rights should be illegal.

You believe in exploiting the 2nd amendment, right?

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

So the meaning is that anybody able to cross the border becomes naturalized when they make it across?

This is not about the children, but just like last time, the children are the main focus. I know you see the irony of those in favor of open borders being concerned about the children.

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It’s about operating the way Obama did. Don’t change the subject.

If you wanna repeal the 14th, do it the right way, not the deep state way.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

I agree with defending our borders; however, no one except for paranoid people see this caravan as a threat. They are still about a thousand miles away and we know where they are.

It is the racists that live in our country currently that are the eminent threat. They are the ones actually killing people.

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LOL at the paranoia in your post. Yes, they are certainly a threat designed to distract from the election. Also, amazed that you are stooping lower and lower with the socialist/democrat mantra of "You are a racist" when your argument is challenged.

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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

It’s about operating the way Obama did. Don’t change the subject.

If you wanna repeal the 14th, do it the right way, not the deep state way.

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I'm staying on topic. Nobody wants to repeal the 14th amendment. We just want our borders protected. Saying "it's about the children" won't work this time. Trump haters over played that card already.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

I'm staying on topic. Nobody wants to repeal the 14th amendment. We just want our borders protected. Saying "it's about the children" won't work this time. Trump haters over played that card already.

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Trump is the one talking about birthright citizenship...he's making it about the children! If you're cool with his deep state methods, that's fine, just understand that it's the exact opposite of what he ran on (some of us aren't surprised).

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

LOL at the paranoia in your post. Yes, they are certainly a threat designed to distract from the election. Also, amazed that you are stooping lower and lower with the socialist/democrat mantra of "You are a racist" when your argument is challenged.



I'm staying on topic. Nobody wants to repeal the 14th amendment. We just want our borders protected. Saying "it's about the children" won't work this time. Trump haters over played that card already.

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I didn’t say “You are a racist”. Wasn’t even implied.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

But that is pretty damn authoritarian to say that exploiting Constitutional rights should be illegal.

You believe in exploiting the 2nd amendment, right?

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Your post is so stupid, it's not worth a response. (and no, this does not qualify as a response)

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

I didn’t say “You are a racist”. Wasn’t even implied.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

It is the racists that live in our country currently that are the eminent threat. They are the ones actually killing people.

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The talking points you have taken up recently, like those on most media outlets, are much more direct in blaming the recent events (bombs and PA tragedy) on hate speech by Trump and those who support him. Y'all aren't very subtle, but I understand that those desperate for a political win will say and do anything it times like these.

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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

Trump is the one talking about birthright citizenship...he's making it about the children! If you're cool with his deep state methods, that's fine, just understand that it's the exact opposite of what he ran on (some of us aren't surprised).

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Turning the deep state theories back on those who were pointing out the deep state a few weeks ago is great.

Protecting our borders is not deep state. It could be that some of those paying for the caravan is deep state.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

Protecting our borders is not deep state. It could be that some of those paying for the caravan is deep state.

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Defying the constitution via executive order...call it whatever you want. Just don't call it conservative.

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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

Defying the constitution via executive order...call it whatever you want. Just don't call it conservative.

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What are you talking about?

Are you saying sending troops to the border is defying the constitution?