Immigration

Sounds like Facebook news.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...on-in-the-u-s/

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

Sounds like Facebook news.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...on-in-the-u-s/

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Yes, you're right, Pew is fake Facebook news.

The facts are awfully inconvenient for Trump’s anti-immigrant message.

As usual you are wrong, in this case, in the source of "the facts."

But, that's okay that you are wrong again. I marvel that you maintain your perfect record. Batting 1.000! One would think you would slip up now and then and accidently be right. But, not you!

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Originally Posted by dawg80

As usual you are wrong, in this case, in the source of "the facts."

But, that's okay that you are wrong again. I marvel that you maintain your perfect record. Batting 1.000! One would think you would slip up now and then and accidently be right. But, not you!

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Has it ever occurred to you that the stuff you read on Facebook might not be true?

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

The facts are awfully inconvenient for Trump’s anti-immigrant message.

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I have no idea what those statistics were supposed to prove. Taken line item by line item:

1) 10.5 million, or 3.2% of the population, is still way too high a number to ignore. Besides that, the issue is the number of people attempting to come in now and creating a humanitarian crisis at the border.

Note that the number (assuming the statistics shown are correct...which I would not necessarily do) decreases during bad economic times and poor economic growth. I bet if you check that number in about a year you'll find it increasing again. This is COMMON SENSE.

We should be able to control our border...period.

2) There should be exactly ZERO illegal immigrants here that are Mexican nationals. ZERO. We should have a liberal guest worker program that allows someone to come here, legally work, pay taxes, and get in the line to become a citizen. This should be reviewed on an individual by individual basis once yearly and renewed IF that worker still has a place to work and does not have issues in our legal system.

I hear we have Congo and Haitian nationals coming over the southern border now. Wonder who is bankrolling that? If I had NOTHING, I certainly could not tell you how to get from here to some Caribbean or African nation...so how is it that they are making their way here?

Where is Congress on this issue? Well, the dems want a permanent underclass and possible votes they can buy down the line, and repubs cozy up to businesses wanting cheap (slave) labor. Congress needs to do their job....this is not a difficult issue unless you have ulterior motives.

3) Kinda bothersome that only 7.6 million of the 10.56 million (estimated) are working. More bothersome that they are likely not getting minimum wages and taking jobs from Americans that are getting government cheese instead of working. Time for Americans to start doing the "jobs Americans won't do". You complain about the debt, then advocate for open borders and an endless "safety net" for able-bodied people.

4) Sounds like BS to me. Besides, does it really matter where they are living?

5) Just goes to show how poor our immigration enforcement is. You get in...you're in. That's our immigration system. Pitiful.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

Out of the latest 45,000 arrested at the border: they hail from 52 different countries cross the globe!
While the majority come from Central America, it is obvious...to those of us not suffering from TDS...we were right about this whole open border crisis wrought by the Dems and their delusional supporters. The numbers of illegals from countries other than Mexico/Central America are steadily increasing...including two from Syria with suspected ties to ISIS, even though they deny it. (of course they would).

Of course you saw that the terrorist, from Syria, who entered illegally in 2016, was arrested for that plot in New York, I think it was. Oh yeah, just as we've said all along.

Build that wall!

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

Sounds like Facebook news.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...on-in-the-u-s/

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Nope! Dawg80's data came from the Governor of Texas yesterday. For the uneducated liberals out there like AOC, Texas has the largest border with Mexico.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images...U5F_bigger.jpgGreg Abbott‏Verified account @GregAbbott_TXFollowFollow

@GregAbbott_TX

"I just deployed 1,000 National Guard Troops to the border. This is needed because more than 45,000 people were apprehended crossing our border illegally in the last 3 weeks. They come from 52 different countries. Congress must do its job and fund border security."

https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/st...27842756628480

Abbott didn’t say anything about Syrians with connection to Isis being in that group. Try to keep up.

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Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS

Nope! Dawg80's data came from the Governor of Texas yesterday. For the uneducated liberals out there like AOC, Texas has the largest border with Mexico.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images...U5F_bigger.jpgGreg Abbott‏Verified account @GregAbbott_TXFollowFollow

@GregAbbott_TX

"I just deployed 1,000 National Guard Troops to the border. This is needed because more than 45,000 people were apprehended crossing our border illegally in the last 3 weeks. They come from 52 different countries. Congress must do its job and fund border security."

https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/st...27842756628480

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

Abbott didn’t say anything about Syrians with connection to Isis being in that group. Try to keep up.

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The Terror Threat on the Southern Border - Center for Security Policy

https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy....uthern-border/

Jan 7, 2019 - The Jihadist threat on the southern border is real and it is ... OTM is an acronym for illegal aliens who are 'Other Than Mexican' .... “The Border Patrol nabbed two Pakistani men with ties to terrorism ... Written ISIS materials and publications have encouraged ISIS followers to cross the U.S. Southwest Border.






Rise in Migrants from ISIS-Infested Muslim Country Trying to Enter ...



https://www.judicialwatch.org/.../rise-migrants-isis-infested-muslim-country-trying-ent...

May 1, 2018 - For the second consecutive year U.S. Customs and Border ... crossing point into the U.S. for illegal immigrants from Bangladesh, ... of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and Al- Qaeda Indian Subcontinent (AQIS). ... “The subjects were encountered after illegally crossing the Rio Grande River in south Laredo,” CPB writes ...

Even if true, that still does not mesh with Dawg80s claim about the last 45,000 arrests.

I have other sources and am able to connect the dots... sorry for those of you languishing in ignorance. But, that's your problem...

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Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow

I have no idea what those statistics were supposed to prove. Taken line item by line item:

1) 10.5 million, or 3.2% of the population, is still way too high a number to ignore. Besides that, the issue is the number of people attempting to come in now and creating a humanitarian crisis at the border.

Note that the number (assuming the statistics shown are correct...which I would not necessarily do) decreases during bad economic times and poor economic growth. I bet if you check that number in about a year you'll find it increasing again. This is COMMON SENSE.

We should be able to control our border...period.

2) There should be exactly ZERO illegal immigrants here that are Mexican nationals. ZERO. We should have a liberal guest worker program that allows someone to come here, legally work, pay taxes, and get in the line to become a citizen. This should be reviewed on an individual by individual basis once yearly and renewed IF that worker still has a place to work and does not have issues in our legal system.

I hear we have Congo and Haitian nationals coming over the southern border now. Wonder who is bankrolling that? If I had NOTHING, I certainly could not tell you how to get from here to some Caribbean or African nation...so how is it that they are making their way here?

Where is Congress on this issue? Well, the dems want a permanent underclass and possible votes they can buy down the line, and repubs cozy up to businesses wanting cheap (slave) labor. Congress needs to do their job....this is not a difficult issue unless you have ulterior motives.

3) Kinda bothersome that only 7.6 million of the 10.56 million (estimated) are working. More bothersome that they are likely not getting minimum wages and taking jobs from Americans that are getting government cheese instead of working. Time for Americans to start doing the "jobs Americans won't do". You complain about the debt, then advocate for open borders and an endless "safety net" for able-bodied people.

4) Sounds like BS to me. Besides, does it really matter where they are living?

5) Just goes to show how poor our immigration enforcement is. You get in...you're in. That's our immigration system. Pitiful.

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The crisis is a humanitarian one caused by Trump’s zero-tolerance policy and constant “metering” at our ports of entry, where we detain asylum seekers on the other side of the border and only process and allow in only a few people per day.

This is a refugee family crisis - not a threat to the US. These are mostly families fleeing violence in Central America, and they are not trying to “sneak” across the border. They are showing up at ports of entry lawfully seeking protection under US law. 2/3 of those that are apprehended by border patrol (and these stats include the large number that voluntarily surrender to border patrol) are parents with children.

ZERO immigration across the border until we get the wall built and can sort this all out.

Yeah, they are "fleeing violence" in their home countries, but first, 33,000 can show up for a soccer match in one of those CA countries this weekend.

It's all BS! they are not fleeing anything. They are being paid, by the likes of George Soros, to invade the US. PERIOD!

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Originally Posted by dawg80

ZERO immigration across the border until we get the wall built and can sort this all out.

Yeah, they are "fleeing violence" in their home countries, but first, 33,000 can show up for a soccer match in one of those CA countries this weekend.

It's all BS! they are not fleeing anything. They are being paid, by the likes of George Soros, to invade the US. PERIOD!

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These people aren’t getting in currently. That is the crisis. Most are stuck on the Mexican side of the border waiting for the opportunity for their asylum application to be considered.

They need to go home, heck! take the money Soros has given them and invest in their own country.

But, where's all the violence these people are fleeing? They can peacefully attend a soccer match, tens of thousands on the streets cheering for their team, no problems. Which is all good! I'm happy for 'em, and just shows that it's life as usual in CA. And these caravans are contrived to invade the US.