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Interesting question. A recent survey showed that more than 1/3 of atheist hide their beliefs from family and friends for fear of disapproval. That paired with the relatively low number of atheist and it's not surprising. Representatives are tasked with representing. With so many in our country believing in some form of God, atheist would naturally be under-represented.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
0/535 is pretty damn underrepresented. The problem is that 70% of the population has negative feelings towards atheists. The actual American atheist population is a matter of debate, but the low side is 3%, with the high side being significantly higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethi...e-thought/amp/
Guess you atheists need to go to the polls...Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Interesting that a person would rebel against something they don't believe in. The only reason they would rebel is because something is written on their heart that bothers them.
Many years back...maybe 20 years or so, a white woman won the mayoral race for Shreveport. On the election returns' show that night, as the numbers were coming in, the campaign manager for the black candidate said their exit poll numbers were showing 85% of white voters voted for the white candidate, and this was lamented as a display of racism. Poor ole S'port was stuck in the past (which it is, but that's another story). One of the TV hosts asked, well, what do the exit polls show for African American voters?
Well, 95% of AA voters voted for the black candidate. One of the guests, a black, said, that's sad we didn't get a 100% support for the AA candidate from the community. The panel all agreed that was sad.
So 85% of whites vote for a white candidate....that's racism.
95% of blacks vote for the black candidate and it's sad it wasn't 100%
For the record I worked very closely with Mayor Glover(the first AA mayor) and would have voted for him myself, if I lived in Shreveport. Mayor Ollie Tyler is doing a good job too.
I remember now (had a flashback...Hazel Beard and it was the early 90's)
Point is, like this atheist thingy....which I bet EVERY atheist who could, did vote for that woman.... it's okay, and even encouraged, for some demographic groups to be openly racist or -ist (whatever "-ist" you want) but Lord help us if white Christians vote however they want to!
What do you mean by “rebel”? Do you mean “oppose a viewpoint that you think is wrong and harmful”?Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Yes, it is amazing. Being defined by something you think doesn't exist. If atheists really believe God does not exist, why would they care what others do, or how others make decisions or live their lives? I don't care about atheists. We are told that half of all people will end up in Hell. No amount of preaching, or trying to convince a non-believer is going to change that. So.... so sad, so sorry. God gave us a free will.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Not much different than defining your relationship as monogamous for not having sex outside of your relationship or claiming your being to a monotheistic religion because you are atheist about the thousands of other human created gods.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
But my lack of a belief in god isn’t so important to me that I would want to join some club based on it.
Admission is free. The price of admission has already been paid for you.
People didn’t really wage wars against each other to spread religion until a Jewish cult decided that they needed to spread their monotheistic religion.
That's not true. You're just defining religion in a way that allows you to say that. All wars are waged about beliefs (particularly the belief that "they" should acknowledge my right to rule them).Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Wage wars? I read a lot, I mean a LOT of history! Humans have not needed ANY one reason, one excuse, to wage war on each other.
For instance...on Afghanistan. Just finished reading the accounts of the British there in the 1870's. One British general lamented that they, the Brits, were just wasting time, sacrificing lives in Afghanistan because this place has always been, and will always be, at war, whether with each other or against foreigners. That was in 1879. That was 139 years ago....he was right. Nothing has changed.
The Battle of Maiwand was a tragedy for the Brits. The Afghan ruler, at the time, was friendly to Britain and to the West in general. He wanted to put down a rebellion so he led an army of 65,000 troops north to meet and defeat a rebel army of 25,000 massing along a river, threatening Kabul. The British command decided to send a small legion, 2,800 men, as support of the emperor. They were two days behind the Afghan army on the road. Near the village of Maiwand the small British column met some "refugees," Afghan Army soldiers fleeing for their lives and warning the Brits they had better run too. Seems the massive Afghan Army, under the emperor, had mutinied and joined the rebel army. Only a few thousand had stood with the emperor and they had been slaughtered. Now the rebel army numbered over 80,000 and it was marching toward Kabul. This small group of British soldiers knew their duty and stood their ground.
In a four-hour battle the vastly outnumbered Brits made a heroic stand. One regiment, the 66th Infantry (Foot), went into the fight with 650 officers and men....not a single one survived. The regiment had a mascot, a dog named "Bobbie." Later a British cavalry unit arrived at Maiwand. They found the dog, slashed by a sword, badly hurt but still alive. Bobbie was the only member of the regiment to survive the battle. Another British regiment had 969 men at the start of the battle....only 177 survived. The Afghans lost over 4,000 men in the battle.
The rebel Afghan army never reached Kabul. Political in-fighting and tribal disputes caused it to break up. The British rallied and was able to defeat the scattered segments of the rebel army, one after the other. Didn't matter as the war went on, as did the tribal disputes among the Afghans.
William Wallace
Alexander the Great
Napoleon
Hitler
Also just read a book on the fall of Constantinople in 1453. "The Red Apple" is what the Muslim Turks, the Ottoman Empire, called it. In April, 1453, the Turks arrived at the city with an army of 250,000, under the Sultan Mehmet. Only 8,000 soldiers were there to defend Constantinople, under Emperor Constanstine XI. It would take more than 2 months but eventually the attackers breached the walls and captured the city. Mehmet had ordered all the defenders slaughtered, but over 3,000 defenders fought their way to the harbor where they boarded ships and escaped. The Ottoman Navy could have stopped them, but they more interested in going ashore to join in the plundering of the city.
The Turks lost 72,000 men killed in the two-month long battle. Would say it was a high price to pay, but the Sultan Mehmet and his ilk didn't care about the average soldier in their army. They were just expendable saps.
Yes, but the Jesus Christ myth was the thing that kicked off the phenomenon of wars to spread religion.
Cherry pickingQuote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Yeah, but it goes to my point about monotheistic regligion doing harm.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Poorly selected evidence doesn't support anything. There are a bunch of dead Nubians that think you're point is patently wrong!Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Even if you could prove that the crusades were the first act of their kind (which you I don't think you can), you'd still have to go much further to show that it was their "christianness" or even "montheism" that led to what transpired. This is a particularly tough task given the actual teachings of Christ which are totally counter to the crusades. Once that is considered you see that the crusades are no different than any other conflict. Folks like Sam Harris love to fly them as proof of the harm of monotheism, but that's a non-nuanced and incomplete assertion. IMO.
And another one bites the dust!
He's on quite a roll.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Is your supported theory that the person never existed at all or that the person existed many centures before the stories are first told or that the person existed but was not as described?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Just interested.
The myth is that a son of a god walked among men and was raised from the dead. And it isn’t the only myth of its near-exact variety, it is just the version that humans in significant numbers currently believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow
Bump to get off of Guisslapp's anti-Christian rant.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Bump :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
POLL: TRUMP APPROVAL HOLDS AT 47%...
Friday, March 16, 2018
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Sponsored by: Greenleaf Book Group, The Idea Accelerator.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_mar16
Trump approval currently 37%, Obama 55%.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...poll/96397974/
Nah,I'll take http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_mar16Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
over the liberal USAToday all day long.
Kind of sad that he can’t break 50% in a conservative-biased poll.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Polls mean nothing
What makes you say that?Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
http://www.joemygod.com/wp-content/u.../CNNpolls2.jpg
USA Tosay uses “voters”. Rasmussen uses “likely voters. I like the latter better.
Rasmussen uses land lines and frames questions in a way that is more likely to receive an answer favorable to conservatives.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
In my 18 years as a voter, I have never received a mail out questionnaire, email, or phone questionnaire from a liberal leaning rag, site, or party. Don’t know if any of my family or close friends have either. Maybe they know they will get a conservative Christian if they call north Louisiana so they don’t want numbers to reflect a message they don’t want to deliver.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Reminds me a of Rush lyric:
Random sample
Hold the one you need
McCabe going to jail.
Comey's day is coming soon.
YES!!!! And another biased and liberal Hillary/Obama lover bites the dust.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe fired just days before pension eligibility
http://a57.foxnews.com/hp.foxnews.co....jpg?tl=1&ve=1BREAKING NEWSMCCABE OUT
Never would have been exposed had Trump not won.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Need to bring Lois Learner back for her issues as well. Using the law enforcement and revenue agencies of the US Government for political shenanigans is beyond sleazy and undermines the functions of these departments.
In the mean time, we are still investigating Trump for collusion (not really, now the fishing is being done way upstream to see if there is ANYTHING they can use to attempt to overthrow a free and open election). Schiff wants to keep investigating even though there is no evidence because he wants a campaign issue come November.
It's all rather reprehensible. I guess this marks the end of the period in America when an election is over once the people have spoken. I predict in increasing anarchy to follow, all because there are folks that just cannot accept results. This doesn't end here.
Rosenstein should be next. He's another cog in the insurance policy.
It really is as simple as that. The swamp is being drained now. CNN and the other drive by guys who have been taking part in the corruption are squirming.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/16/polit...tor/index.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Squirming over what?
McCabe fired!
Hmmmm....a certain song by Queen comes to mind. :)
The swamp plug being pulled and all their efforts are going down the drain as part of the corruption.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I'm thinking/hoping that being fired is the least of McCabe's worries.
Should we all draw the line at the possible loss of the dusky gopher frog?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/22/polit...rog/index.html
The update to sooner’s avatar?
Didn’t you mean to post a pic of Stormy? I think our First Lady is awol.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Nah, the post was intended to point out the non-obesity and gracefulness of your candidate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Cause Trump is the epitome of gracefulness? Wasn’t aware that was a job requirement for you guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Trump’s bed is gonna be as cold as Don Jr’s tonight.
You are truly seething with jealousy and hate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Besides, his "troubles" are related to never having a cold bed (even when his wife is not in it), but it did give you the opportunity to spout some cleverness you likely read on MSNBC's web page.
Not jealousy. He is a liar and a cheater, and I don’t want to be anything like him. Do you think liars and cheaters change?Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow
And I don’t ever go to msnbc or foxnews websites.
Nope. They do not change. Unfortunately there is a lot of both of those going around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Bill and Hillary have not changed either. Hillary is still the same evil person that would destroy as many lives as she needs to to get the power she sees as her "right", even if they are the women (likely raped) she says she represents. Bill is still probably trying to figure out what "is" is.
Yes, Trump is a sleazebag. I cannot believe he can sleep at night knowing what he has done and is doing to his family. I hope Melania takes him to the cleaners, and I wish his children (especially Ivanka) did not have to deal with his infidelity (much like I felt sorry for Chelsea when Bill was doing the cigar trick). Like most cheaters, he has no shame.
I used to feel sorry for Huma as well, because she truly seemed like a decent person. But I understand that she has let Weiner back into her life, so I guess being the wife of someone that posts pictures of his junk on the internet to underage girls is something she is willing to live with. I guess I should have expected that with her willingness to be attached to Hillary.
No matter what, this last election we were going to get a president that was morally reprehensible. What else is new?
Those of you free from sin, cast the first stone....
Sin is not a concern of mine, so I will cast away!Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
That's a good one. These are good too from Isaiah 5:Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
23 Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!
Not now...but it will be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Solid description of the America's socialist Democrats, Marxist and Communist.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
There's a lot of folks who fit that description...on both sides of the isle.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Who on the right?Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
How about those who celebrated a budget that fully funds planned parenthood?Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
They are not on the rightQuote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
We're finally on the same page! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Donald J. Trump
✔@realDonaldTrump
Just signed Bill. Our Military will now be stronger than ever before. We love and need our Military and gave them everything — and more. First time this has happened in a long time. Also means JOBS, JOBS, JOBS!
Rush’s callers are wearing the President out over this latest spending bill. Rush is trying the be a good soldier, but he’s struggling.
I think Trump was set up and wish he would have vetoed it. Make the House and Senate come back to DC and read the dang'ed thing for 2 weeks and get rid of 1/2 - 1/3 of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
That was the path Hannity suggested. Fiscal irresponsibility...thousands of pages of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Well, 71% of house republicans voted for the bill and 50% of the senate republicans did the same. With 65 senators voting for it (and three not voting), the likelihood is that they had the votes to override a veto anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Given all that, I don't think the blame really lies at the feet of Trump (this came out of a republican controlled house and senate), but he doesn't go blameless either. This is a bill Bush, Obama, Clinton or Romney would have signed as well, so maybe this was Trump's establishment coming out party!
The 71% of republicans voting for this in the house and the 50% in the senate are the reason Trump got elected in the first place. Republicans cannot be trusted to act conservatively (but they do talk a good game).
The Art of The Deal. Lolz. Charlatan post-turtle.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Trump's "Art of the deal" has been killing the Dems and foreign countries in America's favor. That said, this was a mistake not vetoing this crappola.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
VOWS 'NEVER AGAIN'...
Congress Gives Self Bonus!
Planned Parenthood Gets $500 Million...
Lawmakers Had 1,000 Minutes to Read 2,232 Pages...
FLASHBACK: Ryan, McConnell LIE About Funding Border Wall...
Pelosi, Schumer declare victory...
The Swamp scored a TD on this deal. But, it's still the 1st Qtr and Trump is a winner. One touchdown won't win this game.
Trump's base will leave him over the spending bill he just signed. I know I'm done. Many have already written off the Republican Party as 100% DC establishment, and with his signing of this abomination of a budget, it now seems that even Trump has capitulated to that DC establishment. He was our last hope for saving this nation and now, even that hope looks to be gone. What a shame.
If we....folks like you and I....give up, this country is dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by brtransplant
Trump said why he signed it: for the military. Now that the military has been taken care of, for some foreseeable future, The Swamp can't hold it hostage again on the next spending bill. Trump has mostly been good on his word (with a few hiccups). The other point is, as chitty as it is, we can't abandon the Repub Party...yet. The 'craps are pure evil. Allowing them their dream scenario of one-party rule, fascism*, will kill this nation. Nope. We have to stay the course, keep supporting Trump and those few Repubs who actually care about liberty.
* I know that technically "fascism" means one-party and a single leader of said party.
Going strictly by your gut, not reading reports or investing time in understanding issues, not listening to advisors, obsessing over what media figures say, and engaging anyone and everyone in twitter tirades was never a good recipe for successful governance.Quote:
Originally Posted by brtransplant
His predecessor showed us a bad recipe for governance in Spades. Each president will be swamp material until we can elect a truly conservative governing body.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I'm upset and disappointed too, but imagine how the bill would have looked had the obese heifer been in chargeQuote:
Originally Posted by brtransplant
Kinda gross how Trump told Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal that they reminded him of his daughter in connection with his philandering of each of them. He has always had a weird fixation and physical attraction with his own daughter.
Sounds like a recipe for having terrible choices in perpetuity.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
And you believe this lying media driven dribble? Seriously?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I just find it funny that so many people in MSM and democrats really want Trump out of office. Worst thing that could happen is that he somehow gets impeached. If this is the case, then Pence becomes POTUS. Pence is way more conservative than Trump is. Is this really what the democrats want?
Since Civics is not taught in school anymore, there are many who believe if Trump gets impeached that Hillary becomes POTUS..:laugh:
Don’t tell them that. Anti Trumpers haven’t thought that far ahead anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
There a lot of folks who aren't on the "Trump Train" because he's not conservative enough.
I'm good with that until they say they voted for Hillary. Then I call BSQuote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
There's people in GOP who are never Trumpers because he is not conservative enough, or he is not part of the establishment. There was a joke running around that maybe in November Republicans can flip both Senate seats in AZ and put Republicans in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
That is the real problem and one I have no solution for.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
These are Trump’s words - not the media.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Yep! some think Krooked Killary will become prez. Dumbchits!Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
I know some libtards that fear Pence more than they do Trump.
More of the Trump effect that is debasing legitimate news reporting.
http://money.cnn.com/2018/04/01/medi...mos/index.html
Penalty flag thrown!Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
You can't type "legitimate news" and then quote from CNN.
Glass houses.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
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Originally Posted by Guisslapp
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Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Very seldom have I been known to quote CNN. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp