That is a complicated question because during the imperial periods the economy and control over it changed waxed and waned.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
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That is a complicated question because during the imperial periods the economy and control over it changed waxed and waned.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
so, let’s not use China in the example. No reason to use the outliers to make the rules, IMO.
Doing this from memory, so...
in one instance a Mongol army led by one of Genghis Khan's nephews, a general in their army, burst thru a hole in the wall that was undefended because the two local dynasties were fighting each other. But they set their differences aside long enough to join forces and counter-attack. First they blocked the "exit" thru the hole and trapped the Mongols against the wall some miles further north. Over 80,000 Mongols were slaughtered. They captured the general, and sent him back to Khan in disgrace. Genghis Khan said he would have executed him if he were not a nephew. He sent him home to his sibling's house, stripped of his rank and never allowed to serve as an officer in the Mongol army again.
Walls work...but they have to be manned and defended too.
We're no longer talking about the same thing. I mean, dawg80 is still talking about the same thing because he equates illegal immigration with a large scale organized invasion, and also thinks that deportation is the only possible consequence for not holding valid immigration status.
But for those that find that outlook exaggerated and the solution untenable, the EIT presents at the very least a starting point to some discussion.
I don't think the Great Wall of China is very relevant (which hasn't ever stopped a rambling BB&B conversation in the past).
The mobs marching in from Central America were a large scale organized invasion. Several posters here wanted to let them all in.
Those large crowds didn’t require a wall to stop them. You could literally track them from thousands of miles away.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
And I thought we might have wanted to give our new B-52 crews some practice carpet bombing, but those in charge thought Mexico would have frowned on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Obama has one around his home compound.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Socialist idealism from the America hater Democrats.
Democrats push for illegal immigrants to get coronavirus stimulus cash
Some Democrats are demanding that stimulus payments as part of the coronavirus response include illegal immigrants -- part of an ongoing effort to eliminate all barriers to public assistance for those in the country without documentation.
While that includes working legal immigrants -- like those here on nonimmigrant (temporary) work visas -- who have Social Security numbers in order to be able to work legally in the U.S., it does not include those who are here illegally.
Illegal immigrants are not eligible for a Social Security number, so they neither pay income taxes nor file taxes via an Individual Taxpayer Identity Number (ITIN).
The IRS describes "a tax processing number only available for certain nonresident and resident aliens, their spouses, and dependents who cannot get a Social Security Number." This includes illegal immigrants.
Democratic lawmakers have seized on that distinction to claim that “hardworking immigrants” will be left out of the payments -- although working legal immigrants will not be.
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., who has called for "Medicare-for-all" programs that would include health care for illegal immigrants, has also complained about the limiting of benefits to those with Social Security numbers.
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem...virus-response
Love it!! About time we ignored the naive socialist liberals that are killing this country.
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Trump to 'suspend immigration into the United States' by executive order amid coronavirus
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Trump's policies, border wall have been critical in containing coronavirus, CBP chief says: 'We're much better positioned now'
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bor...es-coronavirus
Love it! Close our borders by all methods and build the wall.
WaPo Poll: 65 Percent of Americans Want All Immigration to U.S. Halted
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...to-u-s-halted/
DACA endures!
H1B and OPT still holding their breath.
Looks like Justice Roberts was heavily influenced by this reliance argumentQuote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Motion-detector machine guns on the wall....
anyone remember the 1986 Sci Fi flick "Aliens?" These babies rock!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS2PtmM9mwU