President Trump

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

public broadcasting shoots down your theory

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Clifford the Big Red Dog too liberal for you?

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Originally Posted by Champ967

They don't have any obligation to "report the news". They exist ONLY to realize profit for shareholders. They will sell what sells.

Remember, if a thing is free for you, you're not the customer. Your attention is the product that's being sold.

So whether you consume MSM because you expect it to "report the news", or if you just enjoy the adrenaline rush from being outraged, it makes no difference to the advertisers, nor the shareholders. They got you either way.

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Agreed. The funny thing is thinking the advertising is the only thing being sold. They are selling influence and we are dumb enough to lap it up. That part is not always in plain sight of the shareholder though.

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Originally Posted by Champ967

Clifford the Big Red Dog too liberal for you?

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Clifford is OK.

All (liberal) things considered.....not so much

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Originally Posted by detltu

They are selling influence

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Maybe. Probably.

But my point is that nobody is "owed" fair or unbiased reporting. That Boomers continue to hold this expectation really speaks to their entitlement mindset.

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Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow

All (liberal) things considered.....not so much

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So you listen to it? To get news or to be entertained?

In any case, the amount of actual public funding for "public broadcasting" is negligible. NPR is overwhelmingly paid for by underwriting (euphemism for advertising) and donors. But the underlying premise is the same -- they'll sell what sells. They'll give the people what they want.

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Originally Posted by Champ967

I've never actively watched CNN nor MSNBC, so I wouldn't know what they say. But if they're not capitalist ventures, who's keeping the lights on? Are they run by volunteers?

Do you see advertisements on Fox News? If so, then you are the product being sold. They will say whatever they need to say to keep you entertained and tuned in. They're not on tv because of altruism. They are on the air to make money for stockholders.

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Not arguing that point.

Point is CNN et al peddle lies because they know there are enough braindead morons to lap it up. It fits their political agenda, so they are willing to lie to advance their evil cause(s). The average shareholder is satisfied with a reasonable return on their investment. I would NEVER own stock in CNN or some similar entity, they are anti-American. I do hold stock in Altria, which is a cigarette company. I have never smoked, I despise it, but its use is confined to the morons STUPID enough to smoke, and that equity is a solid part of my portfolio.

But the bigger point is this: CNN and the rest of the lefty media LIES! Those of us who don't have our heads up our azz knew that. I just find it comical that those of you bashing FOX all these years are now admitting the truth.

But, that's okay. We welcome aboard all of you who cast away your libtardism and join us in righteous!

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Originally Posted by Champ967

That Boomers continue to hold this expectation really speaks to their entitlement mindset.

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I blame the fact that not enough of them got trophies in youth sports.

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Originally Posted by Champ967

So you listen to it? To get news or to be entertained?

In any case, the amount of actual public funding for "public broadcasting" is negligible. NPR is overwhelmingly paid for by underwriting (euphemism for advertising) and donors. But the underlying premise is the same -- they'll sell what sells. They'll give a few rich liberal people what they want.

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FIFY

Nobody watches that crap and for the most part, there is no advertising and nothing to sell.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

I just find it comical that those of you bashing FOX all these years are now admitting the truth.

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I've never watched Fox news nor bashed it. Kind of like the Simpsons. I know it has a passionate fanbase, but I never got into it.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

FIFY

Nobody watches that crap and for the most part, there is no advertising and nothing to sell.

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And you know that how? Did you tune in for news or for an outrage adrenaline rush? Either way, they got you.

Honestly, some of you fellas talk about MSM like the guy on the dog food commercials who says it tastes like real beef. How do you know unless you tried it?

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Originally Posted by Champ967

And you know that how? Did you tune in for news or for an outrage adrenaline rush? Either way, they got you.

Honestly, some of you fellas talk about MSM like the guy on the dog food commercials who says it tastes like real beef. How do you know unless you tried it?

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I"ve been around long enough to know I guess. It only takes a few minutes of watching any of the big 3, CNN, MSNBC, or PBS to hear their message. Their message has always been slanted left and anti-america.

Again, your theory of "buying what they are selling" is not about supply and demand. It is about who has control of the media. The latest example is the fall of print media. When readers fianlly got another option they dropped the paper editions like a hot potato. Readers were never really "buying it". It was just a habit.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

Again, your theory of "buying what they are selling" is not about supply and demand. It is about who has control of the media. The latest example is the fall of print media. When readers fianlly got another option they dropped the paper editions like a hot potato. Readers were never really "buying it". It was just a habit.

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IF they have a flawed business model, why does it trouble you? Let the market sort it out.

I had a bad experience at IHOP once, and I never went back. If they make it, great. If they don't, great. The continued existence of IHOP doesn't affect me.

I prefer to get my groceries at the Krogers. But if my neighbor likes the Walmarts better, so what?

Why does it get you all hot and bothered that CNN exists? If you dont find it entertaining, dont watch it.

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Originally Posted by Champ967

Maybe. Probably.

But my point is that nobody is "owed" fair or unbiased reporting. That Boomers continue to hold this expectation really speaks to their entitlement mindset.

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I think you misunderstand the complaint. I haven't heard anyone complain that they are owed unbiased reporting. More that people are frustrated that they present themselves as unbiased and there are people that actually fall for it. That wouldn't be an issue if the people dumb enough to eat it up didn't vote. But they do.

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Originally Posted by Champ967

IF they have a flawed business model, why does it trouble you? Let the market sort it out.

I had a bad experience at IHOP once, and I never went back. If they make it, great. If they don't, great. The continued existence of IHOP doesn't affect me.

I prefer to get my groceries at the Krogers. But if my neighbor likes the Walmarts better, so what?

Why does it get you all hot and bothered that CNN exists? If you dont find it entertaining, dont watch it.

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We agree on how to react. We disagree on why we react...to current event topics anyway.

My point on PBS was that there is no demand for them. They are there because of a false narrative spewed by the left. The right would cut that dead weight in a heart beat. Their audience is minimal and not market driven at all.

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Originally Posted by detltu

More that people are frustrated that they present themselves as unbiased and there are people that actually fall for it. That wouldn't be an issue if the people dumb enough to eat it up didn't vote. But they do.

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McDonalds presents itself as good food. But dumb people still eat it. Dodge presents itself as a reliable auto maker. But dumb people still drive them. And vote too.

Why does dumb people consuming shit media get conservatives in a tizzy, but nobody bats an eye at dumb people consuming shit burgers or trucks?

Even if all the biased media disappeared tomorrow, dumb people would still vote. Dumb people have been misled by other dumb people since Bible times, and there's nothing to be done about it. So why bunch one's pannies?