Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
JuBru
The Constitution governs. The New Testament does not.
The New Testement does for me and MILLIONS of others.
It's so strange that the GOP establishment has been ignoring Obama's unconstitutional stances for years, but when Trump bends the rules y'all go nuts. Of course most of you have been looking for a reason to hate on Trump and Cruz since you realized Bush didn't have a chance.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
JuBru
Carter didn't discriminate against Muslims.
Iran is a sovereign nation. Islam is not.
Iran doesn't have protection of the Constitution. Islam does.
The Constitution governs. The New Testament does not.
Whats more, the Bible specifically commands to help the poor, needy, and refugee, regardless of who they are. Christian service is not dependent on whether or not someone is trying to kill us. I can think of one Man who didn't let that stop him.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
maddawg
The New Testement does for me and MILLIONS of others.
It's so strange that the GOP establishment has been ignoring Obama's unconstitutional stances for years, but when Trump bends the rules y'all go nuts. Of course most of you have been looking for a reason to hate on Trump and Cruz since you realized Bush didn't have a chance.
I consider myself more or less libertarian. It's not ok for Obama to do some of the things he does. It's not ok for Trump. By both the standard of the Constitution and the higher standard of the Bible.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
Blue Dawg
Whats more, the Bible specifically commands to help the poor, needy, and refugee, regardless of who they are. Christian service is not dependent on whether or not someone is trying to kill us. I can think of one Man who didn't let that stop him.
Scripture please? Jesus called those who killed him "the devil" (John 8:44)
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
maddawg
Scripture please? Jesus called those who killed him "the devil" (John 8:44)
I'll find some for you. I will say on the other side of my arguments above that we also need to be wise where we have control to prevent it. I just don't think Trump's plan is the answer to that.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
maddawg
The New Testement does for me and MILLIONS of others.
It's so strange that the GOP establishment has been ignoring Obama's unconstitutional stances for years, but when Trump bends the rules y'all go nuts. Of course most of you have been looking for a reason to hate on Trump and Cruz since you realized Bush didn't have a chance.
That's great for us. But it doesn't govern our nation.
I don't think the establishment ignored it. Most of the unconstitutional stances and such of Obama are just another name for some of their stances.
You know I'm not a part of the establishment. And I've hated Trump from the beginning. He's a liberal. I entertain the idea that he's a Billary plant, but really, he's just an egotistical asshole and would do this on his own.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
Blue Dawg
I'll find some for you. I will say on the other side of my arguments above that we also need to be wise where we have control to prevent it. I just don't think Trump's plan is the answer to that.
Letting them in by the 10s of 1000s is working out well isn't it. How accepting are they to the Gospel?
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
Blue Dawg
Whats more, the Bible specifically commands to help the poor, needy, and refugee, regardless of who they are. Christian service is not dependent on whether or not someone is trying to kill us. I can think of one Man who didn't let that stop him.
That is one of the reasons give by Christians that vote for Democrats.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
maddawg
Letting them in by the 10s of 1000s is working out well isn't it. How accepting are they to the Gospel?
Our job is to present the Gospel to them and to live it faithfully ourselves. That is the only way to defeat their ideology. And that is irrespective of whether we let in a million or none.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
JuBru
You know I'm not a part of the establishment. And I've hated Trump from the beginning. He's a liberal. I entertain the idea that he's a Billary plant, but really, he's just an egotistical asshole and would do this on his own.
You and many others have been consistent and leery of Trump.
I'm tired of the SOS since Ronald Regan. I've been waiting over 30 years for a change. Trump can't be any worse than the liberals we had with Carter, both Bushes, and Obama.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
Blue Dawg
Our job is to present the Gospel to them and to live it faithfully ourselves. That is the only way to defeat their ideology. And that is irrespective of whether we let in a million or none.
Nowhere in the Bible can you find a spot that tells me not to protect my loved ones from Satan.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
maddawg
You and many others have been consistent and leery of Trump.
I'm tired of the SOS since Ronald Regan. I've been waiting over 30 years for a change. Trump can't be any worse than the liberals we had with Carter, both Bushes, and Obama.
I agree we need a change. I don't know if he would be a good one though. His call for a tariff (he may have changed his position) on all imports seems...ill advised.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Blue Dawg
I agree we need a change. I don't know if he would be a good one though. His call for a tariff (he may have changed his position) on all imports seems...ill advised.
Yes common sense economics is a scary thing. When Bush did it regarding the steel industry, the establishment thought it was great. Now that it is proposed by a real business person, the otherwise libertarians run from it. Amazing!
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
JuBru
That is one of the reasons give by ignorant unread Christians that vote for Democrats.
FIFY
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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maddawg
Who would have thought that even FOX news would join in on hating the true conservative cause? This from an unPC friend of mine and describes those how hate Cruze and Tump...
I now understand my LIBERAL friends. Its not OK to be Christian Tea Party, white, republican, conservative, politically incorrect, Pro-Life, patriot, of Southern Heritage and support the Confederate flag, Welfare reformist, work or go hungry minded American born and breed, BUT it is ok to be a MUSLIM that is taught from the quran to hate, be intolerant of any other religion, kill or convert, paedophilia, beat women and children, racist, KILL gays, have sex with animals and wipe their butts with their hands.
AMEN my friend!!
