Covid - 19

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Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS

Yes it was obvious Fauci was and still is super political and personally very money driven. He is a confusing mess as he is conflicted and been compromised.

6 hours ago

Fauci’s mixed messages, inconsistencies about COVID-19 masks, vaccines and reopenings come under scrutiny.

A look at Fauci's mixed messages on masks, vaccines and reopenings.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fau...under-scrutiny

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Hell he's on so many interviews he doesn't have time to do any research.

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Originally Posted by techman05

Fauci probably checks his voicemail each morning to see what the pharma companies and mask manufacturers tell him the sentiment of the day should be.

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Yep.

1 hour ago

‘The worst public policy decisions of my lifetime’: Brit Hume rails against lockdowns, school closings
says pandemic response was based on 'narrow focus' of Fauci

https://www.foxnews.com/media/brit-h...licy-decisions

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Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS

Yep.

1 hour ago

‘The worst public policy decisions of my lifetime’: Brit Hume rails against lockdowns, school closings
says pandemic response was based on 'narrow focus' of Fauci

https://www.foxnews.com/media/brit-h...licy-decisions

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Lockdowns were the dumbest thing Trump agreed to while he was in office. It was stupid then, and the fact that we still have areas locked down at this point is beyond dumbocrat.

I suppose everyone also has realized that Cuomo, the gold standard for dem politicians, put Covid patients in nursing homes while a Navy hospital ship and numerous field-hospital beds remained underutilized in the city (put there by the evil orange man or the even more evil Christian do-gooders).

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Originally Posted by Dawgpix

Hell he's on so many interviews he doesn't have time to do any research.

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Today he won't say if it would be safe for grandkids to visit their fully vaccinated grandparents.. The goalposts are constantly moving.. My parents have had both of their vaccines as have I , my wife, and my daughter. We along with my soninlaw, son and daughter in law, and grand daughter (who have not yet been vaccinated) will be visiting them next month for my mom's 80th birthday.. This is completely out of hand..

Remember last March when Fauci and other "experts" said we need to "flatten the curve"... Well we did that.. they still want to keep draconian measures in place.

On FoxNews.. the doctor who normally gives commentary on Covid.. said last night he went to Madison Square Garden for an event. He took his vaccine card showing he was fully vaccinated. They ignored that, and made him take a COVID test prior to entering the building. So the government and policy makers will not accept a vaccination card that shows a vaccine that is 95% effective.. yet rely on a covid test that is less than 70% effective..

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Originally Posted by FriscoDog

Today he won't say if it would be safe for grandkids to visit their fully vaccinated grandparents.. The goalposts are constantly moving.. My parents have had both of their vaccines as have I , my wife, and my daughter. We along with my soninlaw, son and daughter in law, and grand daughter (who have not yet been vaccinated) will be visiting them next month for my mom's 80th birthday.. This is completely out of hand..

Remember last March when Fauci and other "experts" said we need to "flatten the curve"... Well we did that.. they still want to keep draconian measures in place.

On FoxNews.. the doctor who normally gives commentary on Covid.. said last night he went to Madison Square Garden for an event. He took his vaccine card showing he was fully vaccinated. They ignored that, and made him take a COVID test prior to entering the building. So the government and policy makers will not accept a vaccination card that shows a vaccine that is 95% effective.. yet rely on a covid test that is less than 70% effective..

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Dr. Marc Siegel, the Fox News doctor, has an excellent afternoon program on SiriusFM Doctors Channel.
Solid, consistent presentations. Everytime.

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Originally Posted by FriscoDog

Today he won't say if it would be safe for grandkids to visit their fully vaccinated grandparents.. The goalposts are constantly moving.. My parents have had both of their vaccines as have I , my wife, and my daughter. We along with my soninlaw, son and daughter in law, and grand daughter (who have not yet been vaccinated) will be visiting them next month for my mom's 80th birthday.. This is completely out of hand..

Remember last March when Fauci and other "experts" said we need to "flatten the curve"... Well we did that.. they still want to keep draconian measures in place.

On FoxNews.. the doctor who normally gives commentary on Covid.. said last night he went to Madison Square Garden for an event. He took his vaccine card showing he was fully vaccinated. They ignored that, and made him take a COVID test prior to entering the building. So the government and policy makers will not accept a vaccination card that shows a vaccine that is 95% effective.. yet rely on a covid test that is less than 70% effective..

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You obviously aren’t keeping up with the science.

1. The vaccine isn’t effective until several weeks after your second dose.

2. We still don’t have enough data to conclude that you can’t transmit the virus with the vaccine - we know the vaccines are effective at preventing serious illness, hospitalization and death. Early indications are that it also reduce transmissions. The vaccine protects you, the test protects others.

How come you find this so mentally difficult to understand?

But they also just said there is no need to quarantine after being exposed if you have had the vaccine. So which is it? I heard the 2 week rule. I can buy that. If the vaccine doesn’t restore us to normal life, then why is anyone taking it? That’s the whole point. The point is not to protect the elderly. We can do that with social distancing and quarantining. The point is to get people who are otherwise healthy back to a point of being free to live.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

You obviously aren’t keeping up with the science.

1. The vaccine isn’t effective until several weeks after your second dose.

2. We still don’t have enough data to conclude that you can’t transmit the virus with the vaccine - we know the vaccines are effective at preventing serious illness, hospitalization and death. Early indications are that it also reduce transmissions. The vaccine protects you, the test protects others.

How come you find this so mentally difficult to understand?

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Science? That’s funny right there.

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Originally Posted by techman05

But they also just said there is no need to quarantine after being exposed if you have had the vaccine. So which is it? I heard the 2 week rule. I can buy that. If the vaccine doesn’t restore us to normal life, then why is anyone taking it? That’s the whole point. The point is not to protect the elderly. We can do that with social distancing and quarantining. The point is to get people who are otherwise healthy back to a point of being free to live.

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Epidemiology is a about probabilities and risks.

The impact of potentially exposing a crowd at MSG with Covid would be significant. Plus, other patrons that are paying to be there expect MSG to look out for their safety.

A fraction of people exposed to Covid will get Covid. Thus, the CDC has now decided that exposure alone is not enough to quarantine someone that has been vaccinated. I suspect there is some public health consideration around incentivizing people to get vaccinated plays into that. But if the early data suggests people are a lower transmission risk if vaccinated times the probability that they actually get the virus through exposure is balances out in favor of non quarantining in comparison to encouraging adoption of the vaccine.

...but it's still important to quarantine even if you have already had the China Virus or have been quarantined multiple times. There's you science, which is really a control tactic of you leftists.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

...but it's still important to quarantine even if you have already had the China Virus or have been quarantined multiple times. There's you science, which is really a control tactic of you leftists.

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The data shows vaccine confers much greater immunity than previous illness.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

The data shows vaccine confers much greater immunity than previous illness.

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Right. Here's more data. There have been like zero cases of re-infection. A few reported, but no proof they had actually had the China Virus up front.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

Right. Here's more data. There have been like zero cases of re-infection. A few reported, but no proof they had actually had the China Virus up front.

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We know that the antibody levels are much higher from the vaccine than infection. We also know the antibodies fall off over time. This strongly suggests the possibility of reinfection, especially after time.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

We know that the antibody levels are much higher from the vaccine than infection. We also know the antibodies fall off over time. This strongly suggests the possibility of reinfection, especially after time.

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No proof. No science. Just leftist propaganda.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

You obviously aren’t keeping up with the science.

1. The vaccine isn’t effective until several weeks after your second dose.

2. We still don’t have enough data to conclude that you can’t transmit the virus with the vaccine - we know the vaccines are effective at preventing serious illness, hospitalization and death. Early indications are that it also reduce transmissions. The vaccine protects you, the test protects others.

How come you find this so mentally difficult to understand?

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Vaccine is fully effective 7-14 days after second dose.. not several weeks...

If grandparents have both been fully vaccinated, then why not allow them to see grandchildren?