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I am not sure a mandate is needed, or would even work if you have the ideological leader of 40% of the nation undermining it.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
I think that if Trump would have came out as an outspoken advocate for masks from the beginning, it wouldn’t be a political statement not to wear them.
Fortunately, the Texas SC rejected a Republican effort to invalidate over 100k early votes cast in Houston.
Well how freaking stupid would that be if true????Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
No way as conservatives aren’t blind sheeple like liberal Dems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
The dead folks that socialist Dems voted for will be rejected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
It is true. I gave you the link.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
The Republicans were trying to cancel drive thru votes.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
As they should!!! Gods grief man, what are you thinking?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
👍 Biden couldn’t even get a girl registered Cub Scout Pack or gay Boy Scout Troop to show up for him.
Pro-Trump supporters clogged freeways in at least three historically Democratic strongholds Sunday in support of the president days before Tuesday's election.
In Cheesequake, N.J., a video posted to Twitter showed hundreds of vehicles on a congested Garden State Parkway as people in a pro-Trump convoy got out and waved "Trump 2020" and pro-police flags.
“WHOOO! We shut it down baby! We shut it down!” one person is heard as the camera shows traffic at a standstill on the northbound lanes.
Not every motorist was amused. One Twitter user posted singing: “You suck, you suck, everyone on the right lane sucks" as she passes the pro-Trump caravan. Another user said the traffic jam caused first responders to take the long route to a hospital.
In New York, a Trump supporter captured a line of cars with pro-Trump flags between Seaford and Montauk in Long Island that has since been deleted, The Daily Beast reported. A similar lineup was also seen on New York State Route 25.
A Jews for Trump caravan was also reportedly seen on what appeared to be the Mario M. Cuomo Bridge near New York City.
A Daily Beast reporter in Maryland witnessed another caravan of Trump supporters in wheels. The same scene was also reported Sunday in Pasadena, Calif., a suburb of Los Angeles.
Videos of vehicles traveling together with pro-Trump flags and insignia on freeways and bridges flooded social media over the weekend.
The groundswell of support comes after Trump supporters in trucks surrounded a Joe Biden campaign bus in Texas, prompting staffers to call 911 on Friday. The vehicles formed a so-called "Trump train" while waving flags and honking horns as the bus traveled on Interstate 35, bound from San Antonio to Austin.
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/trump-blue-rally
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Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
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Steyn: Biden 'yells at seven parked cars and calls it a rally
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6206274023001#sp=show-clips
Trump/We need to clean house in the FBI. Fire every last POS and start over, hiring ONLY devout Trump supporters.
Mike Rowe with an excellent post:
People who hate Trump almost as much as Biden voters hate Trump, but who hate the “woke culture,” even more. These people are exhausted by nightly images of rioters and looters allowed to run amuck. They’re sick of the incessant virtue signaling from every quarter of society. They're weary of cancel culture, safe spaces, “mostly peaceful” protests, the 1619 Project, and the countless attacks on free speech, and lectures from what they believe to be a completely biased media. For them, Trump is not a candidate - he's a giant middle finger to those who would suppress the Hunter Biden story, or re-edit Gone With the Wind, or rewrite Huck Finn, or disrespect our flag, or topple statues of anyone who doesn't measure up to their enlightened sensibilities. For these people, Trump is the only way to confront the "wokeness" that now defines big media, higher education, corporate America, Hollywood, and professional sports." It's the only way to say, "Enough already."
I don’t have a prediction, Mark, but I think these “reluctant Trumpers” - especially those I've just described - exist in greater numbers than we think.
In other words, FoxNews viewers.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
FoxNews has almost as many viewers as CNN and MSNBC combined. People know who's telling the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
People like to be entertained. That is why they watch the commentary shows rather than the news shows.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Nah, just a bunch of uneducated, gun toting, Bible thumping, deplorablesQuote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Which means, contrary to your post, people actually love to see the protests and hearing about wokeness. That is why they keeping tuning in to FoxNews who keeps showing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
And yet, it is not main stream media.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
I don’t know that Mike is wrong. The question is, has the Trump campaign sufficiently saddled Biden with all of wokedom. The campaign was obviously geared up to run against Bernie and didn’t really alter the plan when Bernie got beat. So, if Trump loses, either the voters he is referring to don’t see that in Biden OR there are far fewer of them than Mike suggests. We should know by the end of the week (betting markets say we’ll know Wednesday).
The viewers want to see what is actually happening not what’s being described “the summer of love”
Gotta give the GOP in PA credit for this. In 7 very red counties, they are not going to start counting any votes until after the mail in deadline. This way the democrats will not know how many votes they need to "find" in some truck somewhere to make up the difference as they did in Orange County CA.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Meanwhile the GOP is trying to cancel ballots that voters already cast.
Republicans everywhere should feel shame.
Voters my butt! You should be ashamed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Published 3 hours ago
Pennsylvania AG hit for predicting Trump will lose election before votes even counted
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pen...-votes-counted
Interesting indeed!
Poll that nailed 2016 election publishes final 2020 survey
Will Donald Trump shock the world again?
Published November 2, 2020
A polling company that correctly predicted Britain's Brexit vote and the election of Donald Trump in 2016 has published its final 2020 survey, which indicates President Trump will get another four years.
The Democracy Institute poll for the Sunday Express finds Trump will win the vote nationally by 48% to 47% over Joe Biden. In 2016, Hillary Clinton received 2.87 million more votes nationally than Trump.
In the tally that counts, the Electoral College, Trump is on course to win by 326 to 212 votes, 22 more than in 2016.
The Democracy Institute said that in the final days of the campaign, the revelations from Hunter Biden's laptop and other sources of alleged influence peddling by Joe Biden and his family had an impact. The controversy over Twitter's censorship of the story only enhanced its profile
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https://www.wnd.com/2020/11/poll-nai...l-2020-survey/
Yes, I know people that did the drive through voting. Actual voters. Republicans were trying to have their votes cancelled.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
It’s like a wake on Fox and Friends this am.
Well the democrats election rigging has started.. Poll watcher denied access in Philly..
https://twitter.com/willchamberlain/...455994373?s=21
https://i.imgur.com/Eeuzg90.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/El5t40yX...jpg&name=small
Here’s the poll watcher’s certificateIt makes clear that it allows the holder to watch at any polling place in the city
Only one poll watcher from each candidate and party is allowed inside the polling place at any given time, according to state law. Maybe someone else from the GOP was already there.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Moon is whining this morning about "stealing the election".
Moon?Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Moon Griffon...Louisiana's top formerly conservative (current nationalistic populist) radio host.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Just sort of a weird vibe I'm getting from "conservatives". Almost as if they are convinced they are going to lose and they are make excuses ahead of time.
If they lose it will be because of soy boys like you.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
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Originally Posted by glm47
So manly!
Wrong Biden is this morning!Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Come on now! Fox is super positive today as I watch. It’s the liberal fascist and intolerant Dems that are scrambling.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
And face baiting which is all they know.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Joe Biden Cites Charlottesville in Election Day Speech in Scranton
https://www.breitbart.com/2020-elect...h-in-scranton/
The way they call states when the reported numbers are just the opposite is interesting. If this were a football game...
Team A 17 Team B 3 about midway in the 2nd qtr, Team A is not only winning, 17-3, but playing well. Then the pundits say, "We can now call this one for Team B by about two touchdowns." What?
Coach Tuberville wins in Bama. That should help the GOP hold on to the Senate...hopefully.
I noticed that, too. Like, right now, one source has Trump up 200,000 in Virginia and it's a toss-up still while other sources have it called for Biden despite also showing the same Trump lead. Also, no two sources have the same results even though they are fed the same information, which is even more weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
He. . . doesn't seem like a very reliable or upright dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Probably as good as Alabama is likely to get though, I guess. Hope he turns out ok for them.
Again.. many democrats are calling for the elimination of the electoral college. This requires a constitutional amendment, which even if it did make it through Congress, would never pass the the state ratification process, as many states would be giving up their voice in a presidential election.
Dems are very busy this morning...damn! they are having to create millions of fake ballots to steal the election in 5 states. That can't be done over-night.
$$$$ money, money, money...
This is actually a good thing, I think. This election cycle shows you really can't buy elections. Look at Florida and the two senate races trying to unseat McConnell and Graham. Holy moly!!! The Dems out-spent the GOP by $tens of millions in just those three elections. They spent $200 million trying to beat McConnell and Graham! Bloomberg spent $100 million of his own money trying to beat Trump in Florida, and that in addition to what the Biden campaign spent. Across the nation the Dems out-spent the GOP by a $billion+. Given the results they didn't get much for their money.
I know of a couple of local campaigns where the Dem tripled the spending of their GOP and Indy opponents, and got beat fairly well, 54% to 46% on average. I know them, and their campaign managers very well. Last night, at around 10:00, I visited with them at their HQs (free food, ya understand!) and they were in shock. I was not too surprised by the results. I also know of their opponents, not too personally, but by reputation and in one case, via some business dealings, and they are accomplished and quality folks.
What does it all mean? I suppose that it is comforting to see that many, many Americans can see thru the BS and are not influenced by fancy political campaigns and all the trappings...can you say 10 large billboards!!??
So...the national polls missed it again. Biden was supposed to win fairly easily 30+ states, sweeping to a huge EC victory. The Dems might still steal the election...they are certainly trying...but clearly it was no "blue wave" the polls predicted. The GOP held serve in the Senate and looks like will actually gain 4 seats in the House. The polls had the Dems increasing their hold on the House.
Caveat alert!!! Have to remind everyone how the Dems stole seats in the House in 2018, reversing the results in 12 elections, 8 of them in California, with "ballots found in the trunks of cars." Perhaps the national pollsters know to build in the cheating factor...
Other than that, I found some of the early exit polling and other analysis interesting. Those who voted for Trump, 80% say they voted FOR him, of those who voted for Biden, 49% said they voted AGAINST Trump. Half of the votes Biden got were not for him. Yes, Trump benefitted from a anti-Killary vote in 2016, but don't think it was half his votes.
Saw a report that Trump got 15% of the black vote, which is twice what he got in 2016. But fell short of the 20+% some Trump supporters were touting.
Same ole crap. The Dems want to stall this as long as possible. If they lose, they will go to court and fight Trump at every turn for the next four years. If they win, all of a sudden it’s all peace and love and we all need to come together and unify as a nation.
Trump is the one that threatened to go to the courts last night to stop the vote counting.Quote:
Originally Posted by SicemDawgz
Let’s revisit this in two months and see if I’m right or wrong.
Yep!Quote:
Originally Posted by SicemDawgz
Wonder what their "insurance policy" is this time. Last time it was the Russian hoax invented by the corrupt FBI, this time...???
Ok, but right now, as the votes count and where the votes are still being counted, Biden is favored to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by SicemDawgz
We all knew that Trump needed a wide margin of legit votes to overcome the cheating the Dems will do. I fear he did not garner enough of a buffer to hold his lead in these remaining states. I will be surprised if Trump wins this.
Thankfully the GOP has held the Senate...well, at least according to the pundits, but right now the "official" count is 47-47 with races still pending being called. I am sure the Dems are trying to steal some of those too.
At least Republicans will keep Senate.. that will limit the damage that can be done.. No packing of Supreme Court. No new statesQuote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Yeah, hopefully. I am such a cynic that until it is officially official!! I have some doubts. But, yeah, with the Senate the GOP can block the extremist lefty agenda. But, I would also hope that on some issues the GOP Senate would cooperate/negotiate and pass legislation that is beneficial to the country and to Americans, even if it's not exactly what they (we) would prefer. For instance, let's say Pelosi/Harris-Biden want a spending bill of $2 billion on something, and the GOP Senate agrees but wants to limit it to $1.5 billion. I would hope instead of just saying Nope! which is what the Dems would do, get down in the mud and negotiate even if the final price tag is $1.8 billion, closer to what they wanted. If it is important enough to pass it, choose your battles and not haggle over $100 million here or there. Don't deny the American people something just because you want to win a political fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
But HELL YEAH!! absolutely dig in your heels and deny any crazy lefty stuff!
Just turned on FoxNews and it is kind of funny how much coverage they give to mischaracterizing what the “mainstream media” said or is saying.
Fox is mainstream media. Try to keep up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Yeah, I thought it was odd how they use the term “mainstream media” when referring to all the other networks.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
Depends on how you choose to view it. If you think the "media" sucks and is part of the problem then being "mainstream" means you're smack in the middle of the mess. The libtard networks are all part and parcel to the on-going disinformation scandal, of not being "news" organizations, but rather propaganda machines for the left. Given that definition then FOX is "anti-mainstream," which is how I choose to classify it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
On the other hand, if you are saying FOX represents what is truly "mainstream" America, then yeah...
I knew it all along, but if this is your first exposure to the FOX reference to the lib media as "mainstream" then you have not been watching FOX, as you claimed you did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Last night Trump wanted states to stop counting ballots, now he wants Wisconsin to recount them. Lol. What a tool!
Except for Tucker, Hannity, and Ingraham, Fox is about like CNN now.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
At the end of the day, Biden will win, Republicans will keep the senate, and things will be pretty level headed, which will be good for all, especially long term. Democrats will declare victory for their liberal policies, but the truth of the matter is that their candidate and party will only barely eek out a victory over a psychopath. The Republicans will have about a year or two to start internally promoting a candidate who has the charisma of Donald Trump, but who is not batshit crazy.
I think Harris-Biden "wins" too. Of course, the Dems will turn this into a "landslide" and claim Harris-Biden have a mandate, yeah baby! As for Trump being "batshit crazy." Yeah, what the eff was he thinking? Putting himself thru this mess for 4 years...the lies, plots, hoaxes, all just to do something grand for the average American...whoa! what a maroon! Now he has to go back to his $billionaire life and endure Secret Service agents hanging around the rest of his life. That sucks.
If Biden wins, hopefully he will appoint Comey AG to restore integrity to that office.
You are such a dipshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
That has to be a troll, right? You can’t be that dumb?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I will be disappointed if he does like Trump and picks someone that puts the president’s personal interests over that of America,
Biden 6 EVs away according to Fox News.
I think I see the Fat Lady warming up her vocal chords....
I hope Trump and his lawyers give the Swamp as much shit for the next 12 weeks as they gave him for over 4 years.
Enjoy your $3000+/mo government health care.
If he has any money after paying his taxes.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
I don't think anybody expected Trump to be a gracious loser.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Nor should he be.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
If he were a puss like McCain or Romney he would never have been there to begin with.
Well firearms and ammo will be through the roof for the foreseeable future. Glad I live in a gun sanctuary state and county..
Yep...continuing the "manly" position of whining about being cheated. What an über mensch!Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Obama sold a lot of guns...then put in fewer restrictions on firearms than Donald J. Trump...the least gun friendly president since Bill Clinton.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Keep playing like you don’t know why. 🙄Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Talk about an industry that wins either way -Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
There’s a difference between ballots and votes. Counted falsified or unverified ballots amounts to nothing. Like most Leftists I see you spend a lot of posts deking and dodging and playing word games around legitimacy.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Yep, to the Mexican drug cartels...
I don't remember silencers and night vision being the norm during those 8 years of Obama.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Nor did anybody not think the Dems would do anything to win, including cheat.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Well, except maybe you.
I really don’t understand what upsets you about Trump’s demeanor. You were perfectly fine with Republicans bending over and taking it up the ass from the likes of Harry Reid, Obama, etc. for all these years.
Haha...their master evil plan? Count legally cast ballots.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
Legally cast ballots is such a relative term with the democrats and RINOs.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
It's not the casting of ballots that is in question. It's the counting of those ballots. Try to focus on polling stats instead of real numbers.
The point is, are they legal? Arguments are that in many many 1000s of cases the ballots are not legal nor were they counted legally. You can’t jump to the end without working through the middle.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
You wish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bone_afide_Dawg
And you wish, not. A brilliantly hollow point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
The person arguing that the votes were illegal or counted improperly really should have some evidence for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bone_afide_Dawg
No good arguments say that. No evidence, just a whiner trying to make himself feel better by casting doubt about n a result that makes him look bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bone_afide_Dawg
They're trying to subvert it with the "National Popular Vote Interstate Compact" that says regardless of the actual result of the state, the electoral college votes will go to the candidate with the most votes nationwide.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Right now, 16 states consisting of 196 electoral votes have made the pact. 4 states consisting of a further 60 electoral votes are pending in some form. 18 other states have it cooking. So far, none of the 16 have acted on it because the pact requires having the 270.
as someone who wishes both candidates could lose, that early-morning biden bump does look pretty fishy. not saying it's illegitimate, but i hope they did a good job of keeping things transparent and well-documented.
also, the subversion of the electoral college is a terrible idea. campaigns are built around winning the electoral vote, and the electoral college reality influences voters. for example, how many republicans stay home in california and new york because they know their vote is useless? if you want to change it to popular vote, change it with an amendment, but don't pretend the popular vote in any given election is indicative of what it would be if that were the way the election was decided.
You really need to practice your reading comprehension skills. First, re-read what I wrote. I asked a question and pointed out what’s taking place. I didn’t draw a conclusion and for sure wasn’t whining about anything. For someone that I see post a lot on here I really thought you would’ve been more astute than what you just showed.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
If all they are doing in Philly is "counting legally cast votes" then why have they denied GOP poll watchers from the process? (we all know why...)
Stupid-ass protestors are burning American flags in NY and Philly and chanting "count all votes," and in Detroit, because Michigan has been declared for Harris-Biden, protestors are chanting "stop the count!" LOL! Nothing hypocritical there, eh.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill...ng-sites%3fampQuote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Your “question” assumed facts not in evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bone_afide_Dawg
That would be an inference, not an assumption. You guys do that a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
https://www.oginski-law.com/faqs/wha...nce--mean-.cfmQuote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
You are a good sheep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Everyone was expecting it to happen, including Trump which is why he wanted them to stop counting.Quote:
Originally Posted by arkansasbob
Has everything to do with the substantial split between walk up Election Day vote and the early + mail in vote. The former is typically Republican and the latter is Democrat. This year was no exception. The states that track party affiliation of early and mail in voters showing at least a 60-40 split favoring Dems for mail in vote and early votes. This phenomenon is also why Republicans attack the mail in vote before the election in courts of law and the public opinion.
I have no idea why Republicans wait until Election Day to vote. Any ideas?
Well, you of all people should also know that the polls have “judges” that are from both parties there at all times. Same is true for where ballots are counted. Claims of lack of transparency are not credible when you know how the process actually works. You should.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Speaking specifically about Philly and a couple of other key locations. I can believe my own eyes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I KNOW Trump won this election...it may be stolen from him, but he won it.
Now, all this talk about how Trump has destroyed the GOP...ya know, there are one or two such fools on this very board...well, look at the complete results. The GOP held and even flipped a couple of state legislatures, netted 7 more House seats, should hold the Senate (unless the theft extends to those pending races too). Trump has made inroads into both the Black and Hispanic communities...polling way better than McCain, Romney, GWB ever did. Trump has dragged the GOP, kicking and screaming, back toward the center-right...just look how long term Senators finally grew a pair and fought for TWO Supreme Court nominations. Lindsey Graham was never that bold before Trump came along and showed him and others how to stand up and fight.
I know Goosey is a commie bastard, so I expect him to continue his lying and bashing of everything "American," but a couple others on here claim to be "conservative" caring about the future of the GOP, but oh my! the bad orange man was wrecking it all! Yet, I do not see any posts celebrating GOP victories, such as flipping 7 House seats. That's because you are also nothing but commie bastards too. Stop the pretense. Stick that hammer & cycle patch on your shoulder and be proud of your Marxist selves!